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Sep 21, 2015 11:59 AM
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Hello!

So the only thing which i dont get and is bothering me the whole time is that why is the japanese army so careful and diplomatic? I mean, ok they dont have to kill everyone and be cruel, but at least they could cross a border to defeat a fire dragon? What could the empire do?? Its like humans now fighting vs an army from the 15. century.... 4-5 machine gun could hold up thousands of people from the empire, so they could at least do what they want, and still stay kind cant they?....

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Sep 21, 2015 12:49 PM
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Its brought around the beginning they have to be as peaceful as possible (probably a better way to put that) so that other countries don't get the excuse they need to invade Japan and take control of the Gate. If they did go to kill the fire dragon and caused conflict with that ruling empire they would be at war with two of the other world empires giving the other countries the ammunition they would need to make Japan look like the bad guys and walk in to 'help' with the Gate situation.

"I am the bone of my sword,
Steel is my body and Fire is my blood,
I have created over a thousand blades,
Unknown to Death,
Nor known to Life,
Have withstood pain to create many weapons,
Yet, those hands will never hold anything,
So as I pray, unlimited blade works"
Sep 21, 2015 12:50 PM
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Politics don't work like that.
Sep 22, 2015 6:45 AM
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I know politics doesnt, but this is a different world...xD
And since the gate is in japan, cant they keep in secret? Like dont let the media in the gate and everything is fine...
Sep 22, 2015 6:50 AM
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SkullProX said:
I know politics doesnt, but this is a different world...xD
And since the gate is in japan, cant they keep in secret? Like dont let the media in the gate and everything is fine...


The world doesn't work like that.
Sep 22, 2015 10:25 AM
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SkullProX said:
I know politics doesnt, but this is a different world...xD
And since the gate is in japan, cant they keep in secret? Like dont let the media in the gate and everything is fine...
Remember Japan's unique political situation. Japan is still bound by Article 9. The Empire committed an act of military aggression against Japan, and Article 9 obviously cannot be used to prevent Japan from protecting its citizens from such aggression, so the operation to take the other side of the gate was still allowed. However, they could only, under most interpretations of Japanese law, secure the immediate area around the gate, and possibly fight against the Empire. They cannot invade any nation other than the Empire without violating Japanese law. Even against the Empire, internal politics will dictate that they use as little force as possible. Piles of dead bodies are bad for PR.

Now, with the nature of the law, the political leanings of the Japanese people, and the fact that many in the SDF share the political leanings of the people, it would be impossible for them to go around conquering or de facto invading other nations without it getting out - they have thousands of soldiers involved, and can't simply cut off communication without everyone getting very suspicious.


All this aside, the fire dragon could be considered a natural disaster. With the invitation of the government of a nation where it's massacring everyone, it can deploy forces to protect that nation's civilians. All they have to do is get a request.
Sep 22, 2015 12:32 PM
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SkullProX said:
Hello!

So the only thing which i dont get and is bothering me the whole time is that why is the japanese army so careful and diplomatic? I mean, ok they dont have to kill everyone and be cruel, but at least they could cross a border to defeat a fire dragon? What could the empire do?? Its like humans now fighting vs an army from the 15. century.... 4-5 machine gun could hold up thousands of people from the empire, so they could at least do what they want, and still stay kind cant they?....

Regards.


So much of what you said is wrong or just naive.

5 people could not hold thousands even with machine guns, that's been proven countless times in history that small armies of "modern" fighters lost to tribal warriors.

Also, if you went into this country and slaughtered them in a fight in what could not be described as self-defense, it would give other nations ammo to step in to "stop Japan" that this show is half about.
Sep 25, 2015 3:50 PM
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ThatDarnIrishMan said:
SkullProX said:
Hello!

So the only thing which i dont get and is bothering me the whole time is that why is the japanese army so careful and diplomatic? I mean, ok they dont have to kill everyone and be cruel, but at least they could cross a border to defeat a fire dragon? What could the empire do?? Its like humans now fighting vs an army from the 15. century.... 4-5 machine gun could hold up thousands of people from the empire, so they could at least do what they want, and still stay kind cant they?....

Regards.


So much of what you said is wrong or just naive.

5 people could not hold thousands even with machine guns, that's been proven countless times in history that small armies of "modern" fighters lost to tribal warriors.

Also, if you went into this country and slaughtered them in a fight in what could not be described as self-defense, it would give other nations ammo to step in to "stop Japan" that this show is half about.


Sure that may be true if its only machine guns, but if they hunker down in one spot they can fire off mortars and have landmines and they will decimate any sort of defense they have. (exactly like they did in the beginning of the series)
Sep 26, 2015 4:44 AM
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Tylerr said:
ThatDarnIrishMan said:


So much of what you said is wrong or just naive.

5 people could not hold thousands even with machine guns, that's been proven countless times in history that small armies of "modern" fighters lost to tribal warriors.

Also, if you went into this country and slaughtered them in a fight in what could not be described as self-defense, it would give other nations ammo to step in to "stop Japan" that this show is half about.


Sure that may be true if its only machine guns, but if they hunker down in one spot they can fire off mortars and have landmines and they will decimate any sort of defense they have. (exactly like they did in the beginning of the series)

Just for your information, landmines are against geneva convention, along with cluster bombs, booby traps, and incendiary weapons. Pretty much anything that has a chance of not being triggered in long periods of time or kill in slow/painful death/s, including anything that causes deliberate injury without the intent to kill and or anything that causes and can't be healed/treated easily.

Nether or less @SkullProX, your question has pretty much been answered. In short, international politic reasons as well being integrated in their own politics and laws.
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Oct 7, 2015 8:31 PM

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NIM7 said:

Just for your information, landmines are against geneva convention, along with cluster bombs, booby traps, and incendiary weapons. Pretty much anything that has a chance of not being triggered in long periods of time or kill in slow/painful death/s, including anything that causes deliberate injury without the intent to kill and or anything that causes and can't be healed/treated easily.


Land mines are allowed as long it has a self-destruct mechanism after a certain period of time. There is a campaign on banning landmines even though we already have the Ottawa treaty which bans anti-personnel mines that are not set on command or have a self-destructive mechanism.

Cluster bomb is allowed, they are just sub-munitions.
I think you are referring to the Convention of Cluster munitions which ban this type of weaponry for all signatories. Mainly because these bomblets tend to for whatever reason, poorly design and doesn't explode as intended. This result in kids playing with them after the war and dying because of such.

Similar to landmines, countries that don't want to sign it developed self-destruct mechanism to ease international relations. Which works pretty well, that's what the US is doing, no one complain because US is taking the alternative route, or they just don't dare.

As for incendiary weapons, it is banned against the use of civilians or against any target near civilians, military base included.
Though yes, anti-personnel incendiary weapon is theoretically banned based on the Geneva convention. That's because it cause unnecessary pain. However, these weapons are still in use against non-infantry units.

For the most part, Geneva convention bans poor treatment of the parties involved, unnecessary destruction and aggressive war. It's less about weapons ban. Some types of WMDs such as biological and chemical is mentioned.

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