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Kageyama is always making her mad, but that's what solves crimes. So, it was a third party, never Kuru Kuru Chan. Quite a nasty one, putting mics in power strips, entering apartments like that, it's crazy. |
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| Again crazy how slept on this is man. This show was not supposed to make me cry, but here I am. Kobayashi truly deserved better and it’s a shame that he lost his life because of some delusional psychopath with a Parasocial relationship. Very well done twist as per usual, the score dropping on this makes no sense, it’s one of the best recent detective series. I’m into idols, but not vtubers so idk maybe it’s something wrong with me, but I just don’t understand how you can become so twisted and delusional about someone that you think they belong to you?? Okada literally only met her because of the wallet being on the ground and now he thinks she’s his girlfriend?? And bugging the apartment when she took the trash out, hello?? This is why you ALWAYS lock your doors ladies and gentlemen. You never know who’s watching you and waiting for an opportunity. Society is so fickle too, seeing some people use this as an attack against Kurumi as if she had the fan killed for stalking when they didn’t even know the half of the story.. here’s a girl who’s been bullied her entire life for her voice, finds something she can do that makes she and others happy, and it gets taken from her for reasons beyond her control. I was scared she might off herself there, thankfully Kageyama solved the case in the nick of time. Was already sad af and the concert at the end just made the dam burst. Kobayashi was just a normal ass dude who she met at the hospital and genuinely supported her as a fan. Losing your life because some psycho interprets that as you flirting with someone(and even if you were, that’s your right) is gross. I really hope Kuru’s song reached him up there and he can rest in peace. |
Marinate1016May 10, 6:24 PM
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| This was a really emotional episode The song at the end was especially beautiful. |
| I didn't think I was going to get tears at the end, emotionally great episode, and plot wise too, this is the second case that is a clean 10, the first one was like a 7, the second one was a 9, hopefully the next cases will be just as good. |
| Honestly, I wasn't expecting this anime to make me tear up. This episode was also quite emotional, and the final scene, although the scenery wasn't the best, was really well executed with the song and all, and delivered the big message of this case. In relation to the case itself, I feel like this was the easiest so far, I literally said last episode that the culprit was the stalker, killing Kobayashi thinking he was a lover of Kura Kura. But the fact that he died while protecting something that meant a lot to Kura Kura was really cute, but sad too. In the end, he wasn't able to witness Kura Kura achieving her dream, even if he was there from the start, but he was the one that gave her the strenght to continue, not once, but twice! Even if he never discovered that... This episode was a bit depressing honestly, if it weren't for Reiko being like "Don't call the police incompetent! Tell that to Kyouichirou, he's the ine that's incompetent", that was really funny. That and Kageyama calling Reiko slow xD But yeah, this episode was really sad in its outcome, and the fact that Kobayashi spent his last moments giving his best to protect Kura Kura's treasure shows the impact celebrities and the like have on people. She really was the source of joy for him, and that made him possible to overcome the fact that he wasn't going to be able to become a singer anymore. Now, I have to ask, how after this episode the score got even lower? Like, I know this isn't any masterpiece, but I really think this anime is being slept on at this point. The bad things about it are the same since episode 1, and after that, it only went up in terms of quality in its narrative and execution properties. And I must say it has a really good pair of opening+ending, the 2 songs are good, they deserve more recognition too. |
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Again crazy how slept on this is man. This show was not supposed to make me cry, but here I am. Kobayashi truly deserved better and it’s a shame that he lost his life because of some delusional psychopath with a Parasocial relationship. Very well done twist as per usual, the score dropping on this makes no sense, it’s one of the best recent detective series.
I’m into idols, but not vtubers so idk maybe it’s something wrong with me, but I just don’t understand how you can become so twisted and delusional about someone that you think they belong to you?? Okada literally only met her because of the wallet being on the ground and now he thinks she’s his girlfriend?? And bugging the apartment when she took the trash out, hello?? This is why you ALWAYS lock your doors ladies and gentlemen. You never know who’s watching you and waiting for an opportunity.
Society is so fickle too, seeing some people use this as an attack against Kurumi as if she had the fan killed for stalking when they didn’t even know the half of the story.. here’s a girl who’s been bullied her entire life for her voice, finds something she can do that makes she and others happy, and it gets taken from her for reasons beyond her control. I was scared she might off herself there, thankfully Kageyama solved the case in the nick of time.
Was already sad af and the concert at the end just made the dam burst. Kobayashi was just a normal ass dude who she met at the hospital and genuinely supported her as a fan. Losing your life because some psycho interprets that as you flirting with someone(and even if you were, that’s your right) is gross. I really hope Kuru’s song reached him up there and he can rest in peace.
I’m into idols, but not vtubers so idk maybe it’s something wrong with me, but I just don’t understand how you can become so twisted and delusional about someone that you think they belong to you?? Okada literally only met her because of the wallet being on the ground and now he thinks she’s his girlfriend?? And bugging the apartment when she took the trash out, hello?? This is why you ALWAYS lock your doors ladies and gentlemen. You never know who’s watching you and waiting for an opportunity.
Society is so fickle too, seeing some people use this as an attack against Kurumi as if she had the fan killed for stalking when they didn’t even know the half of the story.. here’s a girl who’s been bullied her entire life for her voice, finds something she can do that makes she and others happy, and it gets taken from her for reasons beyond her control. I was scared she might off herself there, thankfully Kageyama solved the case in the nick of time.
Was already sad af and the concert at the end just made the dam burst. Kobayashi was just a normal ass dude who she met at the hospital and genuinely supported her as a fan. Losing your life because some psycho interprets that as you flirting with someone(and even if you were, that’s your right) is gross. I really hope Kuru’s song reached him up there and he can rest in peace.
Marinate1016 said: Again crazy how slept on this is man At this point I'm wondering if this is a bed, because the anime has only been getting better with each episode phantomfandom said: I want Kageyama the butler to be together with detective Kyouichirou. That would lead to funny interactions, I'm sure. Only got that in episode 1/2 though :( Sekiro94 said: Damn that was saddest ep so far. Kobayashi mvp of episode if not season whata guy This!! |
| There's one thing I don't quite understand. The stalker was pretending to be a Super Serve courier long before Kurumi met Kobayashi at the hospital, right? The purpose was obviously to keep his identity from being discovered, while sending Kurumi a gift etc. Then it turned out that Kobayashi was a Super Serve courier too? Because, if I remember correctly, there was a Super Serve bag at the scene right? Or, the bag that was found belonged to the stalker who deliberately made it look like Kobayashi was the stalker (as well as the (fake) Super Serve courier) ? Anyway. To hell with that stalker bastard. May he rot in jail. All stalkers are psychopaths. It's because of him that Kobayashi, who had nothing to do with this, died. So far, this is my favorite case. Looking forward to more exciting cases. |
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LaczPro19 said: Kageyama is always making her mad, but that's what solves crimes. So, it was a third party, never Kuru Kuru Chan. Quite a nasty one, putting mics in power strips, entering apartments like that, it's crazy. Yeah Kageyama Roasting Reiko is too damn hilarious I always wait until Reiko’s stumped and then Kageyama just mentally murders her😂 just like this episode. But ay if it’s to solve crimes it may be dumb but it works. Kageyama: “I can see your Slow, those gears must be really turning in your mind huh,” Reiko: “WHO’RE YOU CALLING SLOW?!”😡😡😡 My fav time when he roasted her was the Second EP: Kageyama: I won’t call you a Moron this time😎 Reiko: Okay☺️ Kageyama: …But I must resist the Urge to Laugh at the Absurdity that your spewing out😎 Reiko: HAAAAAAAAAAAA?! THAT STILL COUNTS😡😡😡 |
| damm, what an emotional episode, who's cutting onions dammit. glad we got a somewhat happy ending, defo my favourite arc so far. i just hope poor Kazamatsuri gets to drive Houshou-kun sometime. 5/5 ep, absolutely no complaints on my behalf. |
slice of life anime, my one and only. >3 2D>>>>>> |
| The victim guy having been a massive pillar of support for Kurumi all along is so damn bittersweet. That concert was easily the most uplifting conclusion to a case so far at least. |
| The VTuber stalking case between Yuma Kobayashi and Kuru Kuru-chan Kurumi Sakaguchi is beginning to look more apparent from the neighbours around the latter's place with the Super Serve food delivery from the former, and finding out where the latter is, is the utmost important priority for both Kazamatsuri and Hosho to understand her sequence of events. And while both detectives and the fans prevail Sakaguchi to turn herself in, it's what she shared to her manager Mikami of her self-loathing of her voice, which at the same time brings in the fans for 4 years running to aim for a million subs, it's quite the feat. Kageyama surmising that the Super Serve case could be more than just a stalker doing, and it being a case of harassment only prompts his urgency to take out the culprit spreading rumours about her, which they did in time to stop the real culprit of Kazuhisa Okada, who wasn't even a fan of Kuru Kuru, and even more on her growing relationship with Kobayashi, ultimately killing him, though the pouch was left intact thanks to Kobayashi protecting it with his life unscathed. In the end, Kurumi honouring Kobayashi with the song of note that was left for her, the emotional setback ever so strong like a fan's wish for her success. A sad end, but a honourable one. |
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| The start of the episode with Reiko ranting about Kyouichirou was really funny—his incompetence is unmatched. And let's not forget the way he interrogated Kukumi and later clearly stated that she was the killer. Trust me when I say this: this dude could turn an innocent into a guilty. For a moment, I was really worried that Kukumi would commit suicide because of all the negative comments from her fans, the pressure from the situation she was in, and the stalker. Kageyama's brutally sarcastic, condescending insults to Reiko are the best. And once again, someone like Kageyama—who wasn’t even officially on the case—figured everything out and provided the direction to solve yet another case, unlike our brain-dead detectives Reiko and Kyouichirou. That fan was such a sweetheart—RIP, dude. I'm sure, for Kukumi, he was the inspiration to keep going while she was his. His message to her must have been truly emotional. |
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| Singing a song dedicated to you at your debut concert was a bit awkward, but I can understand the moment. This dude truly loved her work and did not want any harm to her, while he was killed by her hater, who was morbidly jealous of the attention he received. A typical story about how toxic assholes ruin the lives of good-natured people around them. @Marinate1016 It's called love mania and I don't think it's limited to VTubers. On the contrary, all areas of human life, not to mention show business, are confirmed by it. This is one of the reasons why parasocial relationships are so harmful. If you need an example, in high school, a casual mention of a classmate calling me nice was enough to make me fall in love with her. Even though we barely communicated and I don't even know if it was a joke. Likewise, some people may believe that they are hated and despised simply because someone has ever judged or criticized them in some way. |
RobertBobertMay 14, 12:02 PM
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| Who else is crying? |
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| Damn it, wasn't expecting to be hit with the feels in a case involving a vtuber, but I actually teared up a little when she talked about Kobayashi on stage and even sang the song he wrote. It's such a bittersweet thing for her to honour the fan who ended up giving her the courage (twice) to continue vtubing, but he isn't around anymore to witness it. I would like to think that the anime did a good job portraying how a fan's death might affect a vtuber. Kind of reminded me of Ollie from hololive... Coming back to this episode tho, I feel sad for Kobayashi never learning that the random person he talked to at the hospital, was his idol whose treasured pouch he ended up dying protecting. Instead the stalker/murderer gets to know about Kuru Kuru's true identity and he wasnt even a fan of hers which is so messed up/unfair. |
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| The ending broke my heart 😭😭 what a great ep. RIP Kobayashi. |
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