| I may be dumb for not understanding, but can someone explain how Kujirai managed to get out of Kowloon despite being a replicate? Now, one understanding I have is that as she became her absolute self, she was able to break out of Kudou's imagination. That's why she's not bound by Generic Terra anymore. But then again, she was created from Generic Terra, then how does she still exist despite Generic Terra being vanished? I mean, she's not a real human to begin with, let alone having a real heart. Or does Generic Terra have the godly power to create a human of real flesh? |
Reply to Istredd
That's what Gene Tera is designed to do, to create humans with implanted memories to make immortality real, it just failed before. I guess Kudo's regret created Generic Kowloon with all the people and since Reiko became her own self Gene Tera didn't erase her. Just like it didn't erase Xiaohei until Kudo found out she's a guy and the lining on adult Xiaohei's vest
I'm sure it's kept somewhat vague so that you focus on human drama rather than this sci-fi element
I'm sure it's kept somewhat vague so that you focus on human drama rather than this sci-fi element
Istredd said: I'm sure it's kept somewhat vague so that you focus on human drama rather than this sci-fi element Where is the human drama here? I think it was from episode 5 or 6, but the story started to solely focus on discovering the secrets of Generic Terra since then. Only the last episode had given some insight into Kudou's feelings and sufferings. |
Reply to mal_user_2022
What does 'absolute self' even mean?
| @mal_user_2022 It means to have your own unique personality. Like Kujirai was trying hard to become like Kujirai B. Then she realised acting like another person hinders her own independence. So she chose to act on her own, having her own preference and personality, following her own heart. That's what she meant by absolute self. |
Reply to Yungsamm1
Question did Reiko A kill her self on purpose or was it on accident due to the bad pills ??
| @Yungsamm1 What we can understand from the dialogues between those is that Kujirai really loves summer, and she hopes it never ends and everything still remains the same. But Kudou's proposal changed the usual summer she hoped for. So Kudou assumes that she might've killed herself because her summer was taken away by him(idk what that means though). Also in the conversation with the old lady, she said something like "I'm afraid of change. I'm a coward." So yeah, in the end, everything's still ambiguous. I thought it would be a mystery show we could solve, but it was just fantasy all along. It's hard to make sense of everything. |
| Here's how I understand it, Reiko is not a clone but Her own Identity. According to Hebinuma from episode 7, this is what Reiko is: Are you a Zirconian? The answer is no. But you're not a clone either, so we don't know what to call you ourselves. Oh, yes I know just the thing. You were develop later. A generic if you will. And the reason why Reiko is different from usual clone and zirconaian is because Kudo is seemingly responsible for it. According to Kudo: I think I have a good guess as to why she can't be replicated as to why Reiko didn't get replicated perfectly. When she died I realized... Man, I never understood a single thing about her. How could I replicate someone like that? To the very end, she refused to show me her whole self. as to why the reason why Reiko was able to is exists is maybe she is what is yulong and xiaohei was trying to create. Remember that yulong intends to upload xiaohei's consciousness to little xiaohei's clone, and see if he can leave kowloon? |
jestynJul 1, 3:07 AM
Reply to Rom-Com_lover
@Yungsamm1 What we can understand from the dialogues between those is that Kujirai really loves summer, and she hopes it never ends and everything still remains the same. But Kudou's proposal changed the usual summer she hoped for. So Kudou assumes that she might've killed herself because her summer was taken away by him(idk what that means though). Also in the conversation with the old lady, she said something like "I'm afraid of change. I'm a coward."
So yeah, in the end, everything's still ambiguous. I thought it would be a mystery show we could solve, but it was just fantasy all along. It's hard to make sense of everything.
So yeah, in the end, everything's still ambiguous. I thought it would be a mystery show we could solve, but it was just fantasy all along. It's hard to make sense of everything.
| @Rom-Com_lover Since the anime deviated from the manga (didn't read it yet) I think they left it open to interpretation. Kujirai was a coward who had phobia of changes, deep inside she wanted to change but even tough she had Kudo, it wasn't enough to let her power through loosing Kowloon which was a really big triggering change... if only they had met sooner it might have worked out (since then it would be two persons facing it). Reko-pon is Kujirai will to change embodied (the only thing Kudo didn't knew about her), that is why Kudo couldn't replicate her personality. This was Kujirai gamble explained in this episode which she left it to fate... and apparently her will to change won since Gene Terra used it as Kudo also wanted to know more about Kujirai true self. |
Reply to Snaita
@Rom-Com_lover Since the anime deviated from the manga (didn't read it yet) I think they left it open to interpretation. Kujirai was a coward who had phobia of changes, deep inside she wanted to change but even tough she had Kudo, it wasn't enough to let her power through loosing Kowloon which was a really big triggering change... if only they had met sooner it might have worked out (since then it would be two persons facing it).
Reko-pon is Kujirai will to change embodied (the only thing Kudo didn't knew about her), that is why Kudo couldn't replicate her personality. This was Kujirai gamble explained in this episode which she left it to fate... and apparently her will to change won since Gene Terra used it as Kudo also wanted to know more about Kujirai true self.
Reko-pon is Kujirai will to change embodied (the only thing Kudo didn't knew about her), that is why Kudo couldn't replicate her personality. This was Kujirai gamble explained in this episode which she left it to fate... and apparently her will to change won since Gene Terra used it as Kudo also wanted to know more about Kujirai true self.
| @Snaita Ok, that nicely explains why Kujirai's clone has a distinct personality. I guess then the ending is left up to our imagination. |
| So many people are just confused by this series and what is and isn't the case and worse, making up their own head canon despite the anime telling us what is and isn't the case... Like Steins;Gate, this is a series you HAVE to be paying attention to in order to understand what is and isn't the case and what's going on. Pretty much every question was answered and there is not a single clone ever once shown outside of iirc, a mouse on a TV news channel, but no cloned humans. The people of Kowloon that were created by Gene Terra are a new kind of life form called Generics. One thing that bothers me is, it's clear every one of them is in some way, alive or would likely achieve a sense of self given one of them knew it was Kudo who was in control at the end and thanked him but a large part of the cast still doesn't accept them as real. Either way, Generics who have a sense of self, their absolute true self that is, are able to leave Kowloon. Likewise this extends to objects not alive like the ribbons on Xiaohei's vest which didn't disappear, that is because Xiaohei believed in themself and the ribbons were directed tied to that belief, so they didn't disappear, but likewise Xiaohei knew the dresses WOULD disappear, thus they did. If anyone goes back to rewatch this, you'll likely pick up on things you didn't see before and have a much deeper understanding of things. Never mind the clone aspect, that's solely there to tell us the viewer that Generics are not clones. I don't blame anyone for not catching exactly what happened to Kujirai B though, we were shown a memory from a cat who saw the conversation between the cat's human and Kujirai B. That exchange is basically telling Reiko-pon and us the viewer, that she used to not like change, but Kudo changed her and now she isn't sure whether to accept the changes or not that are coming to her life being marriage and the city she loves, Kowloon being destroyed. So, she gambled with her life by taking those pills to determine whether to accept the changes or not and the outcome was she died, thus not accepting the changes. |
_KaoriniteJul 1, 4:59 PM
Reply to Slimehunterzero
Rom-Com_lover said:
I may be dumb for not understanding, but can someone explain how Kujirai managed to get out of Kowloon despite being a replicate?
Now, one understanding I have is that as she became her absolute self, she was able to break out of Kudou's imagination. That's why she's not bound by Generic Terra anymore. But then again, she was created from Generic Terra, then how does she still exist despite Generic Terra being vanished? I mean, she's not a real human to begin with, let alone having a real heart.
Or does Generic Terra have the godly power to create a human of real flesh?
I may be dumb for not understanding, but can someone explain how Kujirai managed to get out of Kowloon despite being a replicate?
Now, one understanding I have is that as she became her absolute self, she was able to break out of Kudou's imagination. That's why she's not bound by Generic Terra anymore. But then again, she was created from Generic Terra, then how does she still exist despite Generic Terra being vanished? I mean, she's not a real human to begin with, let alone having a real heart.
Or does Generic Terra have the godly power to create a human of real flesh?
I think the generic terra became her , so the generic terra is kujirai b
| @Slimehunterzero it did not, thats made up. @rom-com_lover On its own it does not, it comes very close though, the other half that's needed is mentioned in my post above. |
Reply to DanResu
I understood ending differently.
Kujirai living makes sense, if Kujirai-B never died to begin with. And whole fake Kowloon was her mind creation, not Kudo’s. Kudo himself might not be real, he never left Kowloon until the very end. Ending still raises a question, unless Kudo in the ending is fake as well.
In other words, it was a loop of summers, with Kujirai finding her absolute self and dealing with mental issues.
Kujirai living makes sense, if Kujirai-B never died to begin with. And whole fake Kowloon was her mind creation, not Kudo’s. Kudo himself might not be real, he never left Kowloon until the very end. Ending still raises a question, unless Kudo in the ending is fake as well.
In other words, it was a loop of summers, with Kujirai finding her absolute self and dealing with mental issues.
| @DanResu Just finished this, good to find someone who thinks like me. I agree, the whole thing is Reiko's mind. The guy wasn't even there, he was created by her too. I mean, Kudo's barely in the show, it's all about Kujirai, so I agree, the gene terra created a whole sandbox for Reiko during three years so she could find the courage to leave the city behind and change herself. What I don't know is how conscious she was of the whole process, but I guess she must have puzzled it out since she called the real Kudo to meet her at the end 😅 |
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