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Jul 22, 10:12 AM
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I see a lot of bad reviews and a critics about this anime already, and I didn't really understand why! The sub drama is not about the anime and the story itself, and the sub AI stops after one episode (for French sub, I didn't know if other subs have this chance) ! Okay, sometimes the animation is not very beautiful, but that's not ugly either! and for now the story is cool and game are great so why this bad review ?

Oh and please, you can have your opinion and talk about it on this forum but do it with politesse and respect for each other !
Jul 22, 10:22 AM
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If the characters looked the same as every other generic cute anime the rating woukd be higher.
Jul 22, 10:28 AM
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If the characters looked the same as every other generic cute anime the rating woukd be higher.
Oh, you think ? If this reason is a true one, that's a little sad because this design is original and is a perfect design for an anime like this!
Jul 22, 11:12 AM
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For me, it's the character writing. They're very bland and tropey. I'm not particularly interested in any of the characters and that's the most important thing for my enjoyment of a show. I'm only sticking around because I don't have many series this season that come out on Tuesdays to watch.
Jul 22, 12:01 PM
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For me, it's the character writing. They're very bland and tropey. I'm not particularly interested in any of the characters and that's the most important thing for my enjoyment of a show. I'm only sticking around because I don't have many series this season that come out on Tuesdays to watch.
@amentet I'm not very agree with you, but I understand this point. For now, just Kanna, Miko, and Eita have a very important story and screentime, but maybe we are going to have some episodes based on other players !
Jul 22, 12:10 PM
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I'm agree, and also in my country on this anime only subtitles available, and im still waiting for normal fandub or something like what but watching with subtitles. I like what anime, I like characters on what anime (not all characters), we have fandub on what anime but i don't watching what because it's only have first episode what im already watched. And yeah im like animation too
Jul 22, 12:36 PM
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Answer: Because people prefer generic and soulless Isekai/Fantasy.
Jul 22, 12:37 PM
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Personally, I just think it sucks. There isn't much in terms of story or plot, it's just games after games. I just know it's going to end with the blonde girl either dying because of Eita, or sacrificing herself in order to stop him, MC getting angry as fuck at Eita and then defeating him in the last game, leading him to lose his sanity and die like the others. I can feel it in my bones that it will go this way.

The bare-bones and most likely predictable plot wouldn't be an issue, if the games weren't so boring. We had a parody of Fall Guys with horrendous character models, avoid the beasts-- SIKE they're innocuous-- DOUBLE SIKE here's the real monsters you must avoid! And now an escape room episode in which we don't actually get to see any of the puzzles, save for the last riddle which was whatever.

I don't like the characters design, and their writing is very flat. I like Eita because he is a selfish asshole, but that's all I can say about him. Speaking of character design, the Old Ones are the worst offenders. All those neon colors clashing with the sickly green skin color makes me vomit. I also find them pretty annoying

I wouldn't say it's awful, it got me curious enough that I want to see what happens next, but man does it suck IMO.
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Jul 22, 12:39 PM
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Answer: Because people prefer generic and soulless Isekai/Fantasy.
@ReMightyRon not really agree because a lot of anime have not this generic style and have fine review and critic =\
Jul 22, 12:44 PM

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Personally, I just think it sucks. There isn't much in terms of story or plot, it's just games after games. I just know it's going to end with the blonde girl either dying because of Eita, or sacrificing herself in order to stop him, MC getting angry as fuck at Eita and then defeating him in the last game, leading him to lose his sanity and die like the others. I can feel it in my bones that it will go this way.

The bare-bones and most likely predictable plot wouldn't be an issue, if the games weren't so boring. We had a parody of Fall Guys with horrendous character models, avoid the beasts-- SIKE they're innocuous-- DOUBLE SIKE here's the real monsters you must avoid! And now an escape room episode in which we don't actually get to see any of the puzzles, save for the last riddle which was whatever.

I don't like the characters design, and their writing is very flat. I like Eita because he is a selfish asshole, but that's all I can say about him. Speaking of character design, the Old Ones are the worst offenders. All those neon colors clashing with the sickly green skin color makes me vomit. I also find them pretty annoying

I wouldn't say it's awful, it got me curious enough that I want to see what happens next, but man does it suck IMO.
@FrancoMoe Thanks for this critic, I think a lot of people think the same as you!
Jul 22, 1:02 PM
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@ReMightyRon not really agree because a lot of anime have not this generic style and have fine review and critic =\
@TomuKun but at least you should agree that out of every 10 new isekai/fantasy anime that come out every season only 2 or 3 are really good.
Jul 22, 1:10 PM

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@TomuKun but at least you should agree that out of every 10 new isekai/fantasy anime that come out every season only 2 or 3 are really good.
@ReMightyRon oh yes I think the same and my level of exigence is not high !
Jul 22, 3:41 PM

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Personally, I just think it sucks. There isn't much in terms of story or plot, it's just games after games. I just know it's going to end with the blonde girl either dying because of Eita, or sacrificing herself in order to stop him, MC getting angry as fuck at Eita and then defeating him in the last game, leading him to lose his sanity and die like the others. I can feel it in my bones that it will go this way.

The bare-bones and most likely predictable plot wouldn't be an issue, if the games weren't so boring. We had a parody of Fall Guys with horrendous character models, avoid the beasts-- SIKE they're innocuous-- DOUBLE SIKE here's the real monsters you must avoid! And now an escape room episode in which we don't actually get to see any of the puzzles, save for the last riddle which was whatever.

I don't like the characters design, and their writing is very flat. I like Eita because he is a selfish asshole, but that's all I can say about him. Speaking of character design, the Old Ones are the worst offenders. All those neon colors clashing with the sickly green skin color makes me vomit. I also find them pretty annoying

I wouldn't say it's awful, it got me curious enough that I want to see what happens next, but man does it suck IMO.
FrancoMoe said:
Speaking of character design, the Old Ones are the worst offenders. All those neon colors clashing with the sickly green skin color makes me vomit. I also find them pretty annoying

It's on purpose, though. Just like, in the latest episode of Ruri no Houseki, bismuth gets called "an alien stone".
Personally, it reminds me of Nanbaka.

Jul 22, 7:42 PM

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ok, how many folks are commenting on the H.P. Lovecraft angle? i dunno i'm not reading the critiques and reviews etc. online about SHOWS RUNNING NOW. somebody wants to kneejerk respond to episode1? ok, first look, first impressions, anime studios writers etc. KNOW they gotta hook audiences with ep1. or 'casuals' who aren't reading the source or read it in the past won't stick around for more episodes. but i haven't watched ep3 yet and so far... i'm thinking this is an upper tier show on design and animation alone. complex designs for backgrounds, characters, and the interactive/mechanical/technical details in this show are high quality. somebody doesn't like the colors or the art style, ok that's an aesthetic choice. but the TECHNICAL ability to CREATE these people and their world IS there.

oh and are the folks griping about this anime ALSO the folks whining, 'there aren't enough original non-sourced adaptations anime created every year!'??? because this anime is listed on MAL as "Source: Original" . . . . . . Lovecraft is used. but apparently this isn't a DIRECTLY sourced/adapted anime.

so to take a 3ep step and say this sucks? no. it doesn't suck, the author(s) just doesn't like it for various reasons but CAN'T GET OVER those reasons and look elsewhere at the show and see its merits.

the Lovecraftian angle. mmmkaaay. i don't know his work well, never read him. i have just a general recognition and suchforth. with the new Watson TV show here in the US, and Sherlock out of the BBC where Cumberbatch got his big international break before Doctor Strange in the MCU, and Enola Holmes, and years n years ago with Elementary on TV with Lucy Liu and Jonny Lee Miller... as a Sherlockian i'm eatin good with live action. anime? i think Japan needs to keep hands off with Sir Doyle's works. the Harajuku Holmes one? decent to good. Moriarty? disgustingly putrid. i dumped that one fast. the Holmes one where the name was just a comparison to a smart antiques dealer/appraiser? good hook, but only a fun show in general. so picking a 'famous Western author' to draw from? where is the level of The Count of Monte Cristo in anime today? Gankutsuou may be 20 years old now... but it is STILL an awesome re-imagining and adaptation of Dumas' novel! that anime inspired me to READ THE BOOK! all 1,300 or so pages! no i'm not watching Anne of Green Gables, all the old anime or the brand new one out now. i skimmed/sped read the novel's first 3 chapters and it bored me utterly, so no thanks. i'm glad Japan KEEPS MAKING MORE ANIME of that book! but it'll be a hard pass for me. so the 'hook' of using H.P. Lovecraft with this anime? shrug! it gives an interesting baseline to the story. uses the SAN metric i've seen in RPGs based on H.P.'s works. the names are memory tinglingly familiar. the imagery of the 'old gods' is kinda lost on me since i'm not intimately familiar with Lovecraft's works. but if i was familiar would these new designs turn me off or on? i dunno.

my issue with this 'H.P. Lovecraft's Old Gods summoned into a VR game server' premise? it. is. a. computer. i don't care HOW MUCH CASH your company sank into this facility. physically hack the fiber optic cables going into the building with heavy equipment. take out the hard-phone lines at the same time. beat up any wireless access to the outside world with Fire Axes and Baseball Bats. THEN cut the power. turn off any backup power sources. turn off the fire sprinklers and fire retardant/extinguishers protecting the server-farm. AND BURN THE BUILDING DOWN TILL IT IS ASHES. everything. gone. all the chips and SSD hard-drives and magnetic drives... the whole shebang gone up in smoke. shrug, problem solved. if the nutso folks and folks in comas and whatnot don't come back? sorry. casualties happen in a WAR WITH OTHER-DIMMENSIONAL BEINGS!

the baseline idiocy of going into this game and trying to beat 'The Old Gods' at it? meh. i don't like it, but i am mildly entertained. so, i don't think the show 100% totally sucks right now. i've got it at a 5/10.
KiliianSleipnirJul 22, 7:45 PM
just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either.
Jul 23, 1:52 AM

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ok, how many folks are commenting on the H.P. Lovecraft angle? i dunno i'm not reading the critiques and reviews etc. online about SHOWS RUNNING NOW. somebody wants to kneejerk respond to episode1? ok, first look, first impressions, anime studios writers etc. KNOW they gotta hook audiences with ep1. or 'casuals' who aren't reading the source or read it in the past won't stick around for more episodes. but i haven't watched ep3 yet and so far... i'm thinking this is an upper tier show on design and animation alone. complex designs for backgrounds, characters, and the interactive/mechanical/technical details in this show are high quality. somebody doesn't like the colors or the art style, ok that's an aesthetic choice. but the TECHNICAL ability to CREATE these people and their world IS there.

oh and are the folks griping about this anime ALSO the folks whining, 'there aren't enough original non-sourced adaptations anime created every year!'??? because this anime is listed on MAL as "Source: Original" . . . . . . Lovecraft is used. but apparently this isn't a DIRECTLY sourced/adapted anime.

so to take a 3ep step and say this sucks? no. it doesn't suck, the author(s) just doesn't like it for various reasons but CAN'T GET OVER those reasons and look elsewhere at the show and see its merits.

the Lovecraftian angle. mmmkaaay. i don't know his work well, never read him. i have just a general recognition and suchforth. with the new Watson TV show here in the US, and Sherlock out of the BBC where Cumberbatch got his big international break before Doctor Strange in the MCU, and Enola Holmes, and years n years ago with Elementary on TV with Lucy Liu and Jonny Lee Miller... as a Sherlockian i'm eatin good with live action. anime? i think Japan needs to keep hands off with Sir Doyle's works. the Harajuku Holmes one? decent to good. Moriarty? disgustingly putrid. i dumped that one fast. the Holmes one where the name was just a comparison to a smart antiques dealer/appraiser? good hook, but only a fun show in general. so picking a 'famous Western author' to draw from? where is the level of The Count of Monte Cristo in anime today? Gankutsuou may be 20 years old now... but it is STILL an awesome re-imagining and adaptation of Dumas' novel! that anime inspired me to READ THE BOOK! all 1,300 or so pages! no i'm not watching Anne of Green Gables, all the old anime or the brand new one out now. i skimmed/sped read the novel's first 3 chapters and it bored me utterly, so no thanks. i'm glad Japan KEEPS MAKING MORE ANIME of that book! but it'll be a hard pass for me. so the 'hook' of using H.P. Lovecraft with this anime? shrug! it gives an interesting baseline to the story. uses the SAN metric i've seen in RPGs based on H.P.'s works. the names are memory tinglingly familiar. the imagery of the 'old gods' is kinda lost on me since i'm not intimately familiar with Lovecraft's works. but if i was familiar would these new designs turn me off or on? i dunno.

my issue with this 'H.P. Lovecraft's Old Gods summoned into a VR game server' premise? it. is. a. computer. i don't care HOW MUCH CASH your company sank into this facility. physically hack the fiber optic cables going into the building with heavy equipment. take out the hard-phone lines at the same time. beat up any wireless access to the outside world with Fire Axes and Baseball Bats. THEN cut the power. turn off any backup power sources. turn off the fire sprinklers and fire retardant/extinguishers protecting the server-farm. AND BURN THE BUILDING DOWN TILL IT IS ASHES. everything. gone. all the chips and SSD hard-drives and magnetic drives... the whole shebang gone up in smoke. shrug, problem solved. if the nutso folks and folks in comas and whatnot don't come back? sorry. casualties happen in a WAR WITH OTHER-DIMMENSIONAL BEINGS!

the baseline idiocy of going into this game and trying to beat 'The Old Gods' at it? meh. i don't like it, but i am mildly entertained. so, i don't think the show 100% totally sucks right now. i've got it at a 5/10.
@KiliianSleipnir That's a huge critic!!! I like reading it so thank you !
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@KiliianSleipnir That's a huge critic!!! I like reading it so thank you !
@TomuKun you're quite welcome! when the writing bug bites me i just go with it. sometimes the results are good and sometimes it is just me rambling on. ;)
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Jul 25, 10:28 AM
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I personally like the show, but I think it unfortunately came out at a time and in a way that basically doomed it to be hated.

For starters, it's an anime original, meaning that it doesn't have a pre-existing fanbase that would hype it up and stick with it. It also has character design that deviates a bit from the norm, and a color palette that deviates A LOT. The style and colors suit the plot and tone perfectly, but anyone who watches anime casually and is used to a certain style might be put off by it at first glance.

There's also the fact that it belongs to the death game genre. Lately there's been quite a few death game anime, so a lot of people are burnt out from it and look at any new anime from this genre with bad eyes (kind of how people usually look down on isekai/fantasy anime due to how many of them there are).

So, even before starting, this was a bit of a hard sell for many. Then the issue with the atrocious AI subs happened, and any goodwill most people had was burned. For my part, I was really curious what the show was about so I stuck through the bad subtitles ordeal, but if I was just a bit less interested then I would have also dropped it back then. I'm having a lot of fun with the show now, but it just has a lot of things working against it and it ended up attracting a lot of hate, both fair and undeserved.
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It just doesn't have anything that really grabs you, other than some pretty colours. Left me thinking 'why do I care about these characters, again?' The use of Lovecraftian elements just for show is also annoying, and a sign of lack of creativity.
Jul 27, 10:50 PM
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While I wouldn't say I hated it, I think it's pretty weak in a couple key areas for me.

The cast (especially the supporting cast) are bland and we aren't given much reason to care about them from the start.

The premise seems okay, but the first episode isn't paced in a way that makes it catch my interest.

The art style is rough. It has color going for it, but the designs themselves don't stand out.

Lastly, though it's not the show's fault, the subs are horrendous.

I would give it a few more episodes, but this season is full of other things I'd rather watch.
Jul 29, 10:40 AM
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So I haven't dropped it yet and the players are a bit generic but it's not weird enough to be WTF.

It doesn't have a hook that otaku are into nor central character that you can relate to.

The animation is mid but that's true for most shows this season.

The production values and sound design are good but again nothing special.


I do appreciate the dark side of humanity that they are teasing us about.
And enjoy the Great Old Ones reclaiming the humans.
Jul 29, 1:59 PM
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this is better than average cute girl show that get 8 score; as always this site scores are a joke
Aug 5, 9:15 AM
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Truly that.
This has an average even worse than a shit isekai.
And its certainly way better than that atleast.
Aug 6, 3:03 AM
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I normally get or can wrap around my head about almost all the scores in here, even if I disagree.... but this one... the score is utterly bullshit by people that only saw the first episode with some shitty subtitles.

Even by the retarded low scoring some times one can find in MAL by people that for any random reason didn't see beyond episode 1 of a series, this should be at minimum a 7.
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The same reason some middling anime will get a score of 8.5 or above: herd mentality.
Aug 26, 6:02 PM
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Because ratings in this website mean nothing. This anime lacks deep characters to bond with the audience, but it's better that stuff that get 7-8 scores just because it has cute girls.
Sep 3, 12:27 AM

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not sure, its one of my favs this season
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Sep 18, 7:42 PM
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Unbiased reason? I watched one episode and everything about it is weak, or setting up to show hate towards me as a human.
Straight up negatives?
1. Main character, is a Japanese broke Lesbian Ramona Flowers knockoff with anger issues. None of that sounds even remotely interesting to me, And I even enjoyed Scott Pilgrim.
2. Streamers are niche and I have no interest in that substack.
3. The death games are the cheap popular for a month knockoff games. Good only for "I know that game." Zero interest to me.
4. They practically said the men are going to be the villains. Why watch something with a hard on for hating me? Again zero interest.
5. The bar "mom"(translation error where they meant to call her old lady?) sounds like a 3 pack a day smoker of an old man, Nothing there is even remotely endearing. Just a weird checkbox.
6. Its a force capable of ending the world and you only offer 100,000 Yen? rough estimate~10,000$ to stop it? Man at that rate I might just side with the Evil Aliens out of spite.
7. There was literally zero interaction between the characters of any interest in the entire episode.
8. The entire flow of the episode is so poorly done. Choppy, weird emphasizes, Low reward scenes. The director is really just not good and the story is not good enough to justify dealing with that.

What should be interesting?
1. Dark gods..... But also we got nothing interesting out of them and they shut down the very little bit of storytelling trying to get done with a literal "silence, I am in control" scene.
2. The games get worse as it goes on for.... You know what even the gods making the game think it is so boring they have to arbitrarily make things worse for the players, maybe I am not going to be interested in it either.
3. Past relationship drama. Just fell flat.
4. Why did the blonde have an 80s businesswoman power jacket. Honestly it was kind of amusing in a sad kind of way.
5. That was literally it.

What some what worked?
1. The "Im going to kill those evil gods" at the end almost got me to stay and try out a second episode.
2. SHOULDERPADS in that 80s businesswoman jacket. Actually did kind of save it. Mostly because it was ridiculous.(Man I am stretching to say anything good about this show)
3. Lab coat science woman in a small screen is bringing me flashbacks to laser eyes.
4. 10/10 some of the hair in this show could literally kill.

The first episode at the very least feels as uninviting as slathering my body in honey and running through a 100 bear starvation chamber.
It looked and felt soulless and uninspired while also being a cash grab on the supposed low attention span of the younger generation and honestly that is very insulting.
Maybe the series is better later on, but I think it is more of a "My niche should be more popular situation." Which I respect, we should all be able to have things we enjoy.
2/10 if I was to rate the show if it is all the same quality.
Oct 18, 3:18 AM
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I think the show is bad but in an enjoyable way tbh. I thought I would wanna drop the show halfway through based on the reviews but surprisingly it’s got me consistently interested enough to keep watching.
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Sadly the peak of the story was in the third game with the whole reversal escape room especialy
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Because aired as a first in the season.
Dec 17, 11:14 AM

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(I'm on episode 5)

#1 reason for me is the gamer dude... He's unnecessarily evil, more than the ancients, but also dumb as a rock. Realistically, any of these people could kill him at any moment and yet he's exposing his ''murders'', gloating about it and telling them he's going to kill them all.


#2 reason is everyone else, not doing anything about him. When they were asked for a sacrifice to escape the inverted hotel, they let someone else volunteer to die instead of offering him. Dumb decision made because the plot needs it.
''how many points do I need for a loaded gun?'' Shoot him in the virtual world and there aren't even any consequences. There, solved their problem. Hell, bring a knife from home if that's too complicated... Beat him up until his sanity reaches 0, push him from a ledge or into a trap. SOMETHING.
The mc in particular barks and gets angry a lot then watches while he tries to make her friend sink into a pit of tentacles. The most she did about it was annoy him.

And just like the characters, let's brush over how the researcher girl didn't tell them they could die before they went in.

I'm curious to see where it goes and I like the character designs, so I might finish it, but it's kinda tilting me...
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably.

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