| Why should people get emotionally with that kind of open ending? What is even emotional when the Jin ended the Three Kingdoms era and united China once again in the Romance of Three Kingdoms? Water just flows, birds fly and people move on. |
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QuijadaRota said: Is the ending of Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu hopeful or pessimistic? To me it is pessimistic, but it is also loaded with deep philosophical reflection. The series doesn't lean towards a simple “good” or “bad” message, but offers a more nuanced look at the future of humanity and power structures. I'd say that it is optimistically placing the burden of a fair and just government on the new generations. It is framed as a pretty positive ending. |
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SgtBateMan said: Why should people get emotionally with that kind of open ending? What is even emotional when the Jin ended the Three Kingdoms era and united China once again in the Romance of Three Kingdoms? Water just flows, birds fly and people move on. Honestly, this series is emotional since you see how the characters you care about react to the changes of government and the death of people (e.g. Reinhardt). While in the romance, the characters we were emotionally attached to had died long before the rise of the Jin and the reunification. |
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Coolzweg2 said: SgtBateMan said: Why should people get emotionally with that kind of open ending? What is even emotional when the Jin ended the Three Kingdoms era and united China once again in the Romance of Three Kingdoms? Water just flows, birds fly and people move on. Honestly, this series is emotional since you see how the characters you care about react to the changes of government and the death of people (e.g. Reinhardt). While in the romance, the characters we were emotionally attached to had died long before the rise of the Jin and the reunification. no, I saw it through the lens of Wen-Li Yang and Julian Menci, the two historians. Just like how much I supported Shu Han until its very end, I didn't have any lingering towards its downfall. |
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| @SgtBateMan yeah, in that sense it is neutral, the rigorous historian mustn't feel sadness or joy at the fall or rise of empires. I was talking in the POV of the viewer, looking at LOGH as media (as I thought OP intended). In Yang's and Juliet's POV, it's just time... |
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Coolzweg2 said: @SgtBateMan yeah, in that sense it is neutral, the rigorous historian mustn't feel sadness or joy at the fall or rise of empires. I was talking in the POV of the viewer, looking at LOGH as media (as I thought OP intended). In Yang's and Juliet's POV, it's just time... The story was actually led by a narrator who was on neither side, so I doubt people are supposed to tackle Legend of the Galactic Heroes in a personal way. |
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| I think its both. Its hopeful ending with a good message (i think also, like Julian says, the Empire will go for a constitution). But also, touches the thing the entire series says, politics, society, history is never still, humans are humans. Also, the 2 main heavyweights of the series are dead. Its a bitter sweet ending. |
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Coolzweg2 said:
@SgtBateMan yeah, in that sense it is neutral, the rigorous historian mustn't feel sadness or joy at the fall or rise of empires. I was talking in the POV of the viewer, looking at LOGH as media (as I thought OP intended). In Yang's and Juliet's POV, it's just time...
@SgtBateMan yeah, in that sense it is neutral, the rigorous historian mustn't feel sadness or joy at the fall or rise of empires. I was talking in the POV of the viewer, looking at LOGH as media (as I thought OP intended). In Yang's and Juliet's POV, it's just time...
The story was actually led by a narrator who was on neither side, so I doubt people are supposed to tackle Legend of the Galactic Heroes in a personal way.
| @SgtBateMan Personally I believe that every piece of media must be tackled personally for it to leave any impact whatsover (other than just be a trigger for reflection). And I also believe that this series wants the viewer to get attached to the characthers (e.g. Kircheis' death is tackled emotionally, same goes for Yang's). |
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| It's realistic and grounded. The story was told, and from different angles. It's up to us, viewers, to judge it, or even refuse to give any judgement at all. Whatever we decide to do, the past belongs to the past, and what will happen in the future? We can only wonder. It was a very solid ending. |
| I’d say mostly optimistic, but it’s not saying the future will be good or bad so much as it’s saying history is cyclical. Any form of government will corrode over time, and when the Lohengramm dynasty eventually meets this same fate the seeds are already in place for a democratic revolution. |
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