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Jul 26, 2009 1:52 PM
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Fufufu one of my favorite arguments.....well here are my reasons...

1. SoumaxHimeko is ADORABLE, CUTE, and PRECIOUS. And also, Himeko won't got to hell for loving Souma who's a BOY. T_T I adore Himeko like a little sister. I don't want her to be gay! *sob*

2. I love Souma and want him to be happy. :D He's hot, he's cute, he's manly, he's a total sweetheart who would DIE for Himeko-chan and is always treating her like a princess! What more could a girl ask for!?

3. I hate Chikane. She's nothing but angst, LUST, and evil rolled into one miserable lesbian character who you just want to smack over the head repetitively for her idiotic and disgusting actions. Oh yes, and she's sexually abusive. I can't wait for Himeko to run crying to Souma after the first night of being with Chikane. Because it's obvious that all Chikane wants to do is have sex with her and it will be way too much for the poor dear. D:

4. HIMEKO'S DECISION WAS TOTALLY RANDOM. AND RAPE DOES NOT EQUAL LOVE. I mean, she was SO convinced that Souma was her true love for EIGHT episodes...then Chikane rapes her and BAM "Ohhh Chikane-chan Chikane-chan, I love YOU, Chikane-chaaan" WTF NO. SO WRONG. It makes me sick and angry just thinking about it....

5. OVERRATED. Seriously, all the CxH pics on the net make me want to gag. God forbid you like any of the OTHER couples/characters oh no. Every single picture loves to bash you over the head with CxH like "LOOK LOOK GAY YURI LOOK AT THE GAY YURI WITH ALL ITS GAYNESS HOW ADORABLE."

6. THEIR FANS ARE OBNOXIOUS. I cannot stand Chikane fangirls. They drive me crazy. Not because they worship the ground their "amazing lesbian goddess" steps on but because they constantly bash my beloved Souma and Somiko=instant anger from me.

Just to get something straight: I don't hate yuri or yaoi or gay people. In fact, I like a few of the GOOD couples among the mass of trash out there that survives solely on bad writing and fanservice.
But the way the yuri romance was executed in this series has me to believe that ChikanexHimeko is by far, the WORST YURI COUPLE EVER.

*bows* Thank you. :D Now if you excuse me, I have to go find some nummy pics of Souma so I can photoshop him in Chikane's place in all the KNM pics I can find. :DDD
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3. I hate Chikane. She's nothing but angst, LUST, and evil rolled into one miserable lesbian character who you just want to smack over the head repetitively for her idiotic and disgusting actions. Oh yes, and she's sexually abusive. I can't wait for Himeko to run crying to Souma after the first night of being with Chikane. Because it's obvious that all Chikane wants to do is have sex with her and it will be way too much for the poor dear. D:

4. HIMEKO'S DECISION WAS TOTALLY RANDOM. AND RAPE DOES NOT EQUAL LOVE. I mean, she was SO convinced that Souma was her true love for EIGHT episodes...then Chikane rapes her and BAM "Ohhh Chikane-chan Chikane-chan, I love YOU, Chikane-chaaan" WTF NO. SO WRONG. It makes me sick and angry just thinking about it....

5. OVERRATED. Seriously, all the CxH pics on the net make me want to gag. God forbid you like any of the OTHER couples/characters oh no. Every single picture loves to bash you over the head with CxH like "LOOK LOOK GAY YURI LOOK AT THE GAY YURI WITH ALL ITS GAYNESS HOW ADORABLE."


I definitely agree with these ones.
Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM
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Yay someone agrees with me!! :D

It's so nice to be able to talk about KNM and not have the rabid Chikane fans type, "OMG YOU SHOULD DIE" in their posts.....=_=



Sep 22, 2009 8:54 AM
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cos he always helped her since childhood,protect her den reverting 2 dat s*** lesbian?hell no
Nov 23, 2009 4:45 PM
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I know...it's terrible..;_______; I was so upset at the ending that I had to go watch like 19 episodes of School Rumble in a row to try to forget about it. XD



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ye...at least ders someone who agrees
May 16, 2010 12:49 AM
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Chiibi said:
Fufufu one of my favorite arguments.....well here are my reasons...

1. SoumaxHimeko is ADORABLE, CUTE, and PRECIOUS. And also, Himeko won't got to hell for loving Souma who's a BOY. T_T I adore Himeko like a little sister. I don't want her to be gay! *sob*

2. I love Souma and want him to be happy. :D He's hot, he's cute, he's manly, he's a total sweetheart who would DIE for Himeko-chan and is always treating her like a princess! What more could a girl ask for!?

3. I hate Chikane. She's nothing but angst, LUST, and evil rolled into one miserable lesbian character who you just want to smack over the head repetitively for her idiotic and disgusting actions. Oh yes, and she's sexually abusive. I can't wait for Himeko to run crying to Souma after the first night of being with Chikane. Because it's obvious that all Chikane wants to do is have sex with her and it will be way too much for the poor dear. D:

4. HIMEKO'S DECISION WAS TOTALLY RANDOM. AND RAPE DOES NOT EQUAL LOVE. I mean, she was SO convinced that Souma was her true love for EIGHT episodes...then Chikane rapes her and BAM "Ohhh Chikane-chan Chikane-chan, I love YOU, Chikane-chaaan" WTF NO. SO WRONG. It makes me sick and angry just thinking about it....

5. OVERRATED. Seriously, all the CxH pics on the net make me want to gag. God forbid you like any of the OTHER couples/characters oh no. Every single picture loves to bash you over the head with CxH like "LOOK LOOK GAY YURI LOOK AT THE GAY YURI WITH ALL ITS GAYNESS HOW ADORABLE."

6. THEIR FANS ARE OBNOXIOUS. I cannot stand Chikane fangirls. They drive me crazy. Not because they worship the ground their "amazing lesbian goddess" steps on but because they constantly bash my beloved Souma and Somiko=instant anger from me.

Just to get something straight: I don't hate yuri or yaoi or gay people. In fact, I like a few of the GOOD couples among the mass of trash out there that survives solely on bad writing and fanservice.
But the way the yuri romance was executed in this series has me to believe that ChikanexHimeko is by far, the WORST YURI COUPLE EVER.

*bows* Thank you. :D Now if you excuse me, I have to go find some nummy pics of Souma so I can photoshop him in Chikane's place in all the KNM pics I can find. :DDD



Chiibi, you didn't said good arguments because you didn't get the romance of that serie. I know the relationship about Souma and Himeko, the night when Himeko got raped. But, the truth is that Chikane fell in love with Himeko since the first time and she wanted to se Himeko happy. But then she felt so lonely beacuse she want to have her (not only sexually). And she did that bad thinks not only because she got a little bit crazy beacuse she was losing her beloved Himeko, also beacuse one of the priest should be sacrified.
Accept it you are frustrated because Himeko choosed Chikane and not Souma.
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Himeko won't got to hell for loving Souma who's a BOY.:DDD


¬¬ You should be kidding!!!! This dosen't has to do with religion¨?
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Lol I'm half-kidding but....I do come from a religion that condemns homosexuals....so...I'm just saying hypothetically our belief is she could...if she was a real person that is.
Don't think about it too deeply. XD

Chiibi, you didn't said good arguments



Hmm, that's funny. Everyone else who posted here thinks "I did said" good arguments. Why could that be?

because you didn't get the romance of that serie.


No, I COMPLETELY got it and it was very badly written. I know bad romance when I see it. -_- I'm not some little starry-eyed teenager who will eat up any type of romance "just because". That's why you'll never catch me reading Twilight.

Accept it you are frustrated because Himeko choosed Chikane and not Souma.


No, just no. True, I'd prefer Himeko to be with Souma but that has nothing to do with my hatred for ChikanexHimeko. I dislike it because it's a bad couple. It's badly written, badly executed etc. Even if Souma didn't exist, I'd hate this couple. I find it gross and offensive to women, especially. Girls should NOT fall in love with their rapists. That's a horrible message. It's quite insulting and no surprise that the authors who came up with this story are two perverted horny men who just want lesbians to get it on.

Fact is, Chikane is a psychotic maniacal freak and Himeko would do well to stay far far away from her. She ain't right in the head. Someone who was would not have done the terrible things she did. Especially to someone she "loves".
The thought alone of these two "being a cute little romantic couple whose love is so beautiful" is completely WTF. Their relationship would not be accepted in the real world by ANY SANE group of ANY sexual orientation in ANY time period. It's just plain wrong wrong wrong.

ChikanexHimeko fans never agree with this because they are so biased, and it's clear you are one of these fans just from reading your post. Look, this is an ANTI-CxH club, please don't waste your time coming here if you like them because nobody else here does.
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Hahahaha. We have two things in common: Both we come from a religion who condemns homosexuality and we hate Twilight. But I'm a obstinated person, so I will not go so easily.

Chiibi said:
Hmm, that's funny. Everyone else who posted here thinks "I did said" good arguments. Why could that be?


You know what is more funny? That everyone has agreed with you doesn't mean it's true.


Chiibi said:
I'd prefer Himeko to be with Souma but that has nothing to do with my HATRED for ChikanexHimeko.


Yo mention the word ''Hatred'' Its the only evidence that I need to support what I said.

Chiibi said:
Girls should NOT fall in love with their rapists. That's a horrible message. It's quite insulting and no surprise that the authors who came up with this story are two perverted horny men who just want lesbians to get it on.


I'm agree with you in one thing: The rape its bad. But Chikane did that bad things for one reason: 1.- When she turns to ''evil'' she wants to force Himeko to be malevolent to her. Remember, one priest should be sacrified, that was one of the sad parts of the story. And remember, at the end of the she felt sorry about what happened.
Remember, she loved so much Himeko, tha she wanted to make her happy, but she didn't think in her own happiness.
Maybe the author was a little pervet, thats why he put the Mechas and the ecchi things. But I understood the romance in there: Himeko, the cute, normal and little clumpsy girl who life changes radically and start to feel something whit her childhood friend and with the elegant Chikane. And CHikane, noble and elegant girl who felt the sunshine of Himeko and fell in love with her since the first sight.
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Hahahaha. We have two things in common: Both we come from a religion who condemns homosexuality and we hate Twilight. But I'm a obstinated person, so I will not go so easily.


Lol huzzah for Twilight hate then. :D

You know what is more funny? That everyone has agreed with you doesn't mean it's true.


You know what's even MORE funny? It's my opinion and opinions are not truth nor false.

Yo mention the word ''Hatred'' Its the only evidence that I need to support what I said.


Which is.....?

I'm agree with you in one thing: The rape its bad. But Chikane did that bad things for one reason: 1.- When she turns to ''evil'' she wants to force Himeko to be malevolent to her. Remember, one priest should be sacrified, that was one of the sad parts of the story. And remember, at the end of the she felt sorry about what happened.


My points are 1. She didn't HAVE to do it! There are other ways! 2. It squicks me that she even able to do it at all. If she truly loved Himeko, she should have stopped in middle when the poor thing was screaming and crying, "NO NO NONONO!!!!" I don't understand how someone could do that to a loved one. It's just not....NORMAL....

Remember, she loved so much Himeko, tha she wanted to make her happy, but she didn't think in her own happiness.
Maybe the author was a little pervet, thats why he put the Mechas and the ecchi things. But I understood the romance in there: Himeko, the cute, normal and little clumpsy girl who life changes radically and start to feel something whit her childhood friend and with the elegant Chikane. And CHikane, noble and elegant girl who felt the sunshine of Himeko and fell in love with her since the first sight.


Too bad I despise love at first sight. XD



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Yeah, I know it's your opinion, but remmber, an opinion it's not the same that an argument.

Chiibi said:
Yo mention the word ''Hatred'' Its the only evidence that I need to support what I said.

It's the only evidence, but not a good argument.

Chiibi said:
Too bad I despise love at first sight. XD


And I don't trust in love at first sight, but you know that the most of the love stories use that.


Chiibi said:
She didn't HAVE to do it! There are other ways!

I know, the rape it's bad, told me another ways.
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And I don't trust in love at first sight, but you know that the most of the love stories use that.


Lol not the ones I read......because I'm really picky. lol

I know, the rape it's bad, told me another ways.


If she wanted Himeko to hate her enough to kill her, she should have just attacked the people who Himeko cared about. If you remember, that's what she did in episode 11 and THAT was the only thing that unleashed Himeko's rage and she stabbed her. And I was like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE, CHIKANE, YOU DUMB BROAD!?"

lol



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Chiibi said:
Kira-111 said:
And I don't trust in love at first sight, but you know that the most of the love stories use that.


Lol not the ones I read......because I'm really picky. lol

I know, the rape it's bad, told me another ways.


If she wanted Himeko to hate her enough to kill her, she should have just attacked the people who Himeko cared about. If you remember, that's what she did in episode 11 and THAT was the only thing that unleashed Himeko's rage and she stabbed her. And I was like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE, CHIKANE, YOU DUMB BROAD!?"

lol


Hahaha I'm also picky.

Well if you putted attention the last episodes, Chikane also was destroying the world. And then she told to Himeko to be together, but Himeko didn't accept and they started the ''Sword Dance''. And rember one thing: CHIKANE TURNED TO EVIL. SHE WAS THE 8TH OROCHI
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I thought she was able to control herself though. o_o Like she wasn't taken over by an evil force-she was acting the part?



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I thought she was able to control herself though. o_o Like she wasn't taken over by an evil force-she was acting the part?

I don't know if she was able to control herself or not, she was evil and maybe following the orders of the orochi.
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Chiiibi, I think you are being too concerned about the relationship between Chikane and Himeko. You try to make Chikane seem a bad girl, when she was only trying to help, because she wanted Himeko to hate her and kill her, because she felt guilty also, as she had to kill her before. But as she was playing the "bad girl role", she had to hide her true feelings until the end, because that was the way to save the world. It's true, she did not have to rape her (that was a stupid idea on the part of the author, cause girls don't rape girls, that's stupid), but she was playing a role and had to carry on with her duty. Maybe you are being too harsh on Chikane so as to hide your own hidden desires...think about it.
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And may I remind you that Himeko was already in love with Chikane when she kissed Souma, that's why she cried, cause she was not meant to be with him. The love of her life is Chikane.
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And may I remind you that Himeko was already in love with Chikane when she kissed Souma, that's why she cried, cause she was not meant to be with him. The love of her life is Chikane.
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And may I remind you that Himeko was already in love with Chikane when she kissed Souma, that's why she cried, cause she was not meant to be with him. The love of her life is Chikane.


I don't buy that crap for a minute-even after that scene, she was TOTALLY convinced her true love was Souma. And she didn't cry at all in the original manga. She was convinced it was Souma UNTIL Chikane raped her---> authors think rape equals love---> FAIL.

Also, predestined love is retarded-they only "love" each other not because of who they are but because they had memories from 1000 years ago of "loving" each other.
It's dumb!

You guys can ship this worthless pair all you want but keep in mind, this is a club for the haters....so don't expect people to agree with you, lol.



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Shizuma27 said:
And may I remind you that Himeko was already in love with Chikane when she kissed Souma, that's why she cried, cause she was not meant to be with him. The love of her life is Chikane.


I don't buy that crap for a minute-even after that scene, she was TOTALLY convinced her true love was Souma. And she didn't cry at all in the original manga. She was convinced it was Souma UNTIL Chikane raped her---> authors think rape equals love---> FAIL.

Also, predestined love is retarded-they only "love" each other not because of who they are but because they had memories from 1000 years ago of "loving" each other.
It's dumb!

You guys can ship this worthless pair all you want but keep in mind, this is a club for the haters....so don't expect people to agree with you, lol.


I know that nobody in this retarded group going to be agree with me, but Shizuma seens to be agree with me...haha you fail.
I don't care about what happened in the manga because it's one of the few animes that I consider better than the manga. Anf of course the authors thinks the rape is love, you are stupid to think that the authors thinks that. And maybe it's predestinated, but they had the time to know each other...If you putted attention (think that of course you didn't) they met thanks to that funny and cute puppy and they started to meet everyday in that place.
And about the kiss, she didn´t was convinced at all about her feelings about Souma, thats why she cried (DUH!!!!). Accept it, you are angr because Himeko prefered Chikane and not Souma.
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And about the kiss, she didn´t was convinced at all about her feelings about Souma, thats why she cried (DUH!!!!).
I will tell you clearly. You have some feelings about someone, but, then you notice that you also feel something for other person and you get confuse, and Himeko (who is too sensitive, but I still love her :P) of course cried.
Actually this ''crap'' happen in the real life, more specific this problem happens between a friend and me, because she has her boyfriend and also she feels something for me and I feel something for her bla, bla, bla. Well thats another story. So, thats the reason why you should understand that crap and stop thinking that Souma is better for Himeko.
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Kira-111 said:
So, thats the reason why you should understand that crap and stop thinking that Souma is better for Himeko.


SOUMA IS better for Himeko!!! The series is constantly proving this....which is sad, really.

The authors don't care about romance at all....they wouldn't know good romance if it smacked them in the face; all they wanted was girl-on-girl rape because they are pigs without a decent shred of delicacy in their entire bodies and minds.

I know that nobody in this retarded group going to be agree with me,


You ChikanexHimeko-shippers are the retarded ones for not recognizing how bad of a "romance" this actually IS....>_> Don't believe me? Go talk to the owner of the Okazu blog, Erica Friedman. She LOVES yuri....studies it constantly, picks out good and bad series, it's what she's all about and even SHE says "ChikanexHimeko just doesn't make any sense to me at all. People keep telling me so but it just doesn't WORK."

Damn straight....it doesn't.



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Chiibi said:
Kira-111 said:
Kira-111 said:
So, thats the reason why you should understand that crap and stop thinking that Souma is better for Himeko.


SOUMA IS better for Himeko!!! The series is constantly proving this....which is sad, really.

The authors don't care about romance at all....they wouldn't know good romance if it smacked them in the face; all they wanted was girl-on-girl rape because they are pigs without a decent shred of delicacy in their entire bodies and minds.

I know that nobody in this retarded group going to be agree with me,


You ChikanexHimeko-shippers are the retarded ones for not recognizing how bad of a "romance" this actually IS....>_> Don't believe me? Go talk to the owner of the Okazu blog, Erica Friedman. She LOVES yuri....studies it constantly, picks out good and bad series, it's what she's all about and even SHE says "ChikanexHimeko just doesn't make any sense to me at all. People keep telling me so but it just doesn't WORK."

Damn straight....it doesn't.


O God! Is easier talk to a wall than she ¬¬

Chikane is better to Himeko, maybe Souma has many good things, but also Chikane, and she has better things than Souma. The rape was the only bad thing BUT SHE WAS VERY SAD AND UNDER THE POWER OF THE OROCHI.
I know the anime (and manga) has the nasty thing of girl-on-girl rape, but if you didn't got the romance between that two girls was beacuse you didn't paid attention. Accept it, you're frustrated beacuase Himeko choosed Chikane!

And I will not read the Okazu's blog I have betters things to do, but I you want to hear why the yuri fans prefer Chikane and have good arguments...Go to yurilandia.net, but of course you should know spanish for this.
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Ha! That's good!
Name ONE advantage Chikane has over Souma!! ONE!!

Here's all the better points Souma has over her!

*Souma is sweeter!
*Souma is less selfish!
*Souma is less psychotic!
*Souma has never once purposely hurt Himeko!
*Souma is more gentle!
*Souma has been protecting Himeko since they were children!
*Souma is cuter!
*Souma is more noble!
*Souma doesn't act like an angsty emo bitch!
*Souma's feelings are so much more like the way TRUE LOVE should be!!

Sorry, but I DON'T think the ChikanexHimeko relationship is even slightly "romantic"; it is shallow, smutty, cliche, random, and extremely forced on the creators' part and nothing will convince me otherwise.

See, I've read/seen manga and anime with actual GOOD writing of romantic plots....so I know better. ;)

Yuri fans prefer Chikane because Chikane is a girl. I would be VERY interested to see who they'd prefer with Himeko if Souma had been a girl as well.

VERY interested.....
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Chiibi said:
Ha! That's good!
Name ONE advantage Chikane has over Souma!! ONE!!

Here's all the better points Souma has over her!

*Souma is sweeter!
*Souma is less selfish!
*Souma is less psychotic!
*Souma has never once purposely hurt Himeko!
*Souma is more gentle!
*Souma has been protecting Himeko since they were children!
*Souma is cuter!
*Souma is more noble!
*Souma doesn't act like an angsty emo bitch!
*Souma's feelings are so much more like the way TRUE LOVE should be!!

Sorry, but I DON'T think the ChikanexHimeko relationship is even slightly "romantic"; it is shallow, smutty, cliche, random, and extremely forced on the creators' part and nothing will convince me otherwise.

See, I've read/seen manga and anime with actual GOOD writing of romantic plots....so I know better. ;)

Yuri fans prefer Chikane because Chikane is a girl. I would be VERY interested to see who they'd prefer with Himeko if Souma had been a girl as well.

VERY interested.....


(Man, thats why I prefer to be a metalhead than a otaku...)

Well, your points are good, but, thos are the Chikane's facts and comparations:
*If Chikane was more selfish, she wouldn't accept to help Himeko with Souma at the beginning.
*Chikane DIDN'T WANTED TO HURT Himeko, but the curse of the priest who consist in kill the other priest, her broken heart when Himeko kissed Souma, and of course being the 8th orochi was another fact...remember she did that to be killed by Himeko.
*Cuter and sweeter are just your opinion.
*''Souma doesn't act like an angsty emo bitch!'' Read 2nd point, and I don't think that she was an emo.
*''Less psychotic'' Again, point number 2.
*I think you mean heterosexual love, because Chikane really loved Himeko, but remember the curse of the priests.
*And I don't see the cliche,random please explain a little bit more, of course is not shallow, and extremely forced also I don't get in what.

Maybe you read many love stories, but you didn't got many things in the plot and of course you are frustrated beacuse Himeko chose Chikane.
I know it has some fanservice (and unfortunately) has a a few episodes.

''Yuri fans prefer Chikane because Chikane is a girl. I would be VERY interested to see who they'd prefer with Himeko if Souma had been a girl as well.''

This thing you should ask to that girls, in my personal opinion I also prefer Chikane than a female Souma, but this is not my business.
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(Man, thats why I prefer to be a metalhead than a otaku...)

Well, your points are good, but, thos are the Chikane's facts and comparations:
*If Chikane was more selfish, she wouldn't accept to help Himeko with Souma at the beginning.

Oh but she was so totally kidding herself. Her jealousy disgusted me. She even took the present Souma gave to Himeko and LIED to Himeko about taking it! That wasn't very nice. >:/

Souma's "sweeter" because he treats Himeko BETTER than Chikane does. End of story. Nobody with a sane mind who watched the anime can possibly argue with THAT.

*Chikane DIDN'T WANTED TO HURT Himeko, but the curse of the priest who consist in kill the other priest, her broken heart when Himeko kissed Souma, and of course being the 8th orochi was another fact...remember she did that to be killed by Himeko.

If she didn't want to, she should not have been able to. That's what disturbs me so much. No person with a healthy mind would be able to do what she did. Therefore I think she's dangerous to others and to herself and should not be in a relationship with ANYONE, realistically.

Read 2nd point, and I don't think that she was an emo.

SHE WAS SO FREAKING EMO. She's the most emo girl I've ever seen!! I wanted to slap her every time she went to go sulk in the corner. "JUST F**KING TELL HIMEKO HOW YOU FEEL!! If she agrees, good for you! If she turns you down, GET OVER IT, BITCH!!"
lol

*I think you mean heterosexual love, because Chikane really loved Himeko, but remember the curse of the priests.

No, I mean TRUE LOVE as in UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. And true love certainly has nothing to do with sexuality.True love is happily loving someone and expecting nothing back. Chikane tried to tell herself this is what she felt for Himeko. But she was lying to herself to make herself feel better about it. In the end she let her lust take over. True love has to be present in a positive, healthy relationship. Himeko and Chikane do *not* have a positive, healthy relationship. Himeko and SOUMA have a very positive, healthy relationship and THAT'S why I choose to ship them.

*And I don't see the cliche,random please explain a little bit more, of course is not shallow, and extremely forced also I don't get in what.


*sighs*

It's cliche because it's "popular, perfect girl" x "shy, timid outcast", yeah, we've never seen THAT before. XD and "love-at-first-sight" (which I HATE) "predestined love" and "past lives killed each other" "fall in love with your RAPIST" and "I must hurt you to make you hate me"....my God it's like sixr cliches from six different manga shoved into one couple. I can only take so much cheesiness!!

It's random because Himeko randomly decides she likes Chikane better in the TWELFTH EPISODE.

It's forced because Himeko's changed feelings towards Chikane do not feel natural at all. The writers are supposed to convince us that Himeko really *does* love Chikane now and all it felt like was yuri-fanboy-pandering.

It's shallow because it IS yuri-fanboy pandering with tons of fanservice and focusing so much on sexual themes. ChikanexHimeko is pretty much the yuri equivelent of YukixShuuichi, SHALLOW FANSERVICE SMUT.

THIS is why I prefer subtext relationships like LuciaxSumire and BethxCocoloo. It leaves more to the imagination and feels more heartfelt and genuine.

Maybe you read many love stories, but you didn't got many things in the plot

I completely got the plot. Which is annoying because CHIKANE'S STUPID PLAN DIDN'T WORK ANYWAY. If her plan was to take Himeko's viriginity so she couldn't summon the god AND make Himeko hate her, THE POOR GIRL GOT RAPED FOR NOTHING.

and of course you are frustrated beacuse Himeko chose Chikane.

The fact that Himeko chose the person who is the most abusive to her is an insult to women EVERYWHERE.

And yes, I have asked a few people and they said they prefer Chikane because THEY WANT YURI. They don't care about how awful the yuri pairing is, as long as it's hot girl-on-girl action, they lap it up.
And lots of yaoi fangirls are the EXACT SAME WAY.
This is why rabid yuri/yaoi fans disgust me so much. It's all about THE GAY SEX!!!111 with them. T_T
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Found this, bumping it. :P Woot!

Now I found BOTH Souma and Chikane to be good looking for Himeko. (Note: I said looking, not exactly as a couple altogether)

I am hopelessly in love with yuri, but doesn't mean I'm heartless when it comes to boyxgirl; this anime/manga does/did not fit into my favorite list. Why? Well...for one I hardly understood half of what was happening...and that's just for romance. xD

Generally I'd accept any sort of yuri, but I'm not a horny 14 year old girl who faps and drools over any couple I see, especially when they make no sense whatsoever. I watched Strawberry Panic...hated almost every couple in that series, because they were too cliche and annoying, especially on Shizuma and Hikari's part. But this series I can rant over somewhere else.

Onto CxH. I don't hate Chikane, don't hate Himeko, nor have I ever hated Souma. I only disliked the canon pairing. The whole cliche roles I can look over, the way they met was okay; raping however and falling in love with the rapist is not okay though.

Now I love Himeko to death, she's absolutely adorable in every way I can think, but that just WASN'T a smart move on her part, and it made me like her even less; during the beginning of the ninth episode, she was depressed and zoned off to wherever, but then she figures "oh well, she loves me if she did that!". Not smart.

Nor was it on Chikane's side either. She could've, well..smacked her around and NOT taken her virginity; I'm sure just hitting Himeko once would've been enough to make her be all looney and depressed.

Souma, I wish to squeeze to death. The way he cared for Himeko and was willing to kill the Orochi so they could have some private time convinced me that if he was real and I knew him, I would steal him. And never let him go home (not in the nasty-dirty way mind you). Though he did get a little annoying, but I thought that once and felt bad. ):

Personally, I don't care which side Himeko would've ran to. They're BOTH good people for her, we just need to stop thinking all the negatives about Chikane. One scene can't make up a whole character.

I wouldn't have cared if Souma had been cross-dressing as a girl, and I didn't care that Chikane was a girl either. Just because it's a certain type of genre you like, that alone doesn't make it good. I love yuri but this wasn't exactly what I was looking for, though I do like the remake 'Zettai Shoujo' manga. It's better, IMO.

I'm not a fan of yaoi, I avoid that genre, don't want anything to do with it. However, I don't call the fans of it crazy or rabid or annoying, if they like it, who cares! Let them like what they do and I'll do the same.

To end this rant, I'll say I would've preferred if they just made a threesome so all the people STILL arguing about it (trust me people still do) could shut up. *sigh*

Goodnight! :3
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Chiibi, the amount of bullshittery you emit in your posts has possibly the most dumbass contents I have ever seen by far. In fact, my laptop momentarily froze to how much dumbtarded-ness it was dealing with. I didn't even read half of the retarded-ness you mindlessly spewed out because I stopped when I saw a hint of homophobia thrown in there, as well as the moot points you gave out. It's like going back to /b/ all over again. Your intellectual capacity might as well mirror a tightly-closed nutshell if you put in an analogous comparison because this is basically what I've read;

GAY LEZ LEZ DUMB DUMB LEZ GAY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED GAY LEZ GAY.

You know, I'm not even going to past the boundaries of arguing/debating with this because it is a fact that I truly hate narrow-minded people, especially ones in latent denial. Retarded people are a waste of time to deal with.

However, if you want to take this matter into debate, I will gladly do so in a civilized manner if you wish. I have no sense of dignity and I am more than glad to stomp on stupid, narrow minded people such as yourself.

Also, scrolling through these posts, I've noticed that you ignored Shizuma27's post regarding about gender. He/She did have a valid point, and yet you totally ignored it. This makes me very fishy.

EDIT; LMAO, I sound so retarded in this post, it's not even funny.
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Charmandar said:
Your intellectual capacity might as well mirror a tightly-closed nutshell if you put in an analogous comparison because this is basically what I've read;

GAY LEZ LEZ DUMB DUMB LEZ GAY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED GAY LEZ GAY.


You are an idiot who doesn't know how to read and process information correctly if that was the only thing you got from my posts.

..........let me put it into a simple terms that might make it easier for you to understand:

I hate abusive relationships no matter what the sex of the characters are. Boyxgirl, boyxboy, girlxgirl-I don't give a flying f*ck. If it's abuse, IT'S NOT REAL LOVE.
I also hate shitty writing.
ChikanexHimeko is abusive.
It also has shitty writing, the shittiest I've seen, in fact.
Thus I hate the ChikanexHimeko couple.
That's it. End of story. I do not wish to repeat myself any longer because I'm sick of having to deal with the trolls who join this club just to argue with people who hate their favorite couple...DO YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!?
If you like this shitty couple, FINE.
Don't try to change my mind because it's not gonna happen.
I support all pairings regardless of gender. HisokaxTsuzuki are my yaoi OTP and LuciaxSumire are my YURI OTP.


lso, scrolling through these posts, I've noticed that you ignored Shizuma27's post regarding about gender. He/She did have a valid point, and yet you totally ignored it. This makes me very fishy.

I looked over Shizuma27's posts but I didn't see anything about "gender". Could you elaborate?

Seiveil said:
Souma, I wish to squeeze to death. The way he cared for Himeko and was willing to kill the Orochi so they could have some private time convinced me that if he was real and I knew him, I would steal him. And never let him go home (not in the nasty-dirty way mind you).

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS XD
*dirty thoughts*
I would.....do......things to that boy....whoops, TMI...XD

They're BOTH good people for her, we just need to stop thinking all the negatives about Chikane. One scene can't make up a whole character.

I just..........ugh....I think some things just can't be forgiven.
Well okay, forgiven, but not rewarded.
I mean, if a man has been a good person his whole life, listened to his parents, did good deeds, never got into trouble with anyone....but one day killed another human being because he just wanted to...
Does that mean he's not a murderous low-life, since he was good MOST of the time?
Is how I look at it.
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Chiibi said:
[b LuciaxSumire are my YURI OTP.

Hell yes to this. :b

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS XD
*dirty thoughts*
I would.....do......things to that boy....whoops, TMI...XD

I lied. I did mean it in the nasty dirty way. >//> But! Let us ignore this! XD

I just..........ugh....I think some things just can't be forgiven.
Well okay, forgiven, but not rewarded.
I mean, if a man has been a good person his whole life, listened to his parents, did good deeds, never got into trouble with anyone....but one day killed another human being because he just wanted to...
Does that mean he's not a murderous low-life, since he was good MOST of the time?
Is how I look at it.

That's true. But let's assume he didn't kill someone (he is a good person, after all), but instead...shoplifted or did something for money or material goods. Personally I see that as a mistake; murdering is unforgivable, but something like that can be forgiven. Though in this case, someone got raped, said victim rewards rapist with love and a relationship. Not necessarily sane, but if you don't think about it too deeply it works, right? xD

I wouldn't call this abusive, since Chikane did in fact do it so she can see her own death; she did it with a good intention, she just handled it way too roughly. Himeko for some odd and retarded reason didn't see fit to kill her, and decided a monologue of fluffy crap would settle the deal. Realistically no, nobody in their right minds would do it. Anime-wise, yes, characters can fall in love with their rapists apparently.

I respect your opinion, and I still would have preferred the threesome. XD

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Chiibi said:
[b LuciaxSumire are my YURI OTP.

Hell yes to this. :b


Ooooh *fangirls* THEY'RE AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME. XD
I'm sad there is no club for them on MAL. D:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS XD
*dirty thoughts*
I would.....do......things to that boy....whoops, TMI...XD

I lied. I did mean it in the nasty dirty way. >//> But! Let us ignore this! XD

Bwahahahaha XD


Anime-wise, yes, characters can fall in love with their rapists apparently.

Oh, it's not just anime...>_> Bad romance novels do it too. A lot. With men raping women. It's sick....



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Chiibi said:
Ooooh *fangirls* THEY'RE AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME. XD
I'm sad there is no club for them on MAL. D:

Say it ain't so?!? Dx


Bwahahahaha XD

Hey, heyyy...>.>


Oh, it's not just anime...>_> Bad romance novels do it too. A lot. With men raping women. It's sick....

That's why I never pick up a romantic plot book thing. :b But some people are just sick-minded I guess. :/

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Chiibi said:
Charmandar said:
Your intellectual capacity might as well mirror a tightly-closed nutshell if you put in an analogous comparison because this is basically what I've read;

GAY LEZ LEZ DUMB DUMB LEZ GAY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED GAY LEZ GAY.


You are an idiot who doesn't know how to read and process information correctly if that was the only thing you got from my posts.

..........let me put it into a simple terms that might make it easier for you to understand:

I hate abusive relationships no matter what the sex of the characters are. Boyxgirl, boyxboy, girlxgirl-I don't give a flying f*ck. If it's abuse, IT'S NOT REAL LOVE.
I also hate shitty writing.
ChikanexHimeko is abusive.
It also has shitty writing, the shittiest I've seen, in fact.
Thus I hate the ChikanexHimeko couple.
That's it. End of story. I do not wish to repeat myself any longer because I'm sick of having to deal with the trolls who join this club just to argue with people who hate their favorite couple...DO YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!?
If you like this shitty couple, FINE.
Don't try to change my mind because it's not gonna happen.
I support all pairings regardless of gender. HisokaxTsuzuki are my yaoi OTP and LuciaxSumire are my YURI OTP.


lso, scrolling through these posts, I've noticed that you ignored Shizuma27's post regarding about gender. He/She did have a valid point, and yet you totally ignored it. This makes me very fishy.

I looked over Shizuma27's posts but I didn't see anything about "gender". Could you elaborate?

Seiveil said:
Souma, I wish to squeeze to death. The way he cared for Himeko and was willing to kill the Orochi so they could have some private time convinced me that if he was real and I knew him, I would steal him. And never let him go home (not in the nasty-dirty way mind you).

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS XD
*dirty thoughts*
I would.....do......things to that boy....whoops, TMI...XD

They're BOTH good people for her, we just need to stop thinking all the negatives about Chikane. One scene can't make up a whole character.

I just..........ugh....I think some things just can't be forgiven.
Well okay, forgiven, but not rewarded.
I mean, if a man has been a good person his whole life, listened to his parents, did good deeds, never got into trouble with anyone....but one day killed another human being because he just wanted to...
Does that mean he's not a murderous low-life, since he was good MOST of the time?
Is how I look at it.


tl;dr

go back 2 pre-k, retard
Naoi is my husbando. ♥
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tl;dr

go back 2 pre-k, retard


If YOU can't even read properly, which one of us is the REAL retard?



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ur so dum it's funny

im growing bored 。◕‿◕。
Naoi is my husbando. ♥
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ur so dum it's funny

im growing bored 。◕‿◕。


Oh.........that's it.

Shut up, troll before I report your ass.

This is an ANTI-ChikaxHime club-what other reason do you have to be here besides to TROLL!?

Get a life, why don't you? If you love this shitty pairing so much, GO TO THE PRO-CHIKAXHIME CLUB.

On topic, I'm pleased to report ChikanexHimeko officially sucks. Even the head of a giant yaoi/yuri hentai doujinshi company full-heartedly confirms this.

PWNED, CxH SHIPPERS. PWNED.
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To be honest I don't hate ChikaneXHimeko but I can see the flaws. Nothing is perfect.

I will not say that Chikane doesn't love Himeko. But I will say that it is twisted. To me I look at it as if it were like the Joker to Batman. The only one the Joker loves besides himself is the Batman, albeit in his own twisted sort of way. Chikane just isn't AS TWISTED as the Joker. Still twisted though.

The rape was bad. I will agree with that. It didn't make me hate Chikane but I sure as hell did think she could use a psychologist to help make her better.

Souma of course I will agree was the ideal choice. Not the destined choice but the ideal choice. He was far more controlled in his emotions and never let them get the better of him unless he was under the Orochi's influence or when he thought Himeko was hurt. If Chikane had better control over her emotions then as Chibi said: Instead of raping Himeko to make her hate her she would have done what she did that struck the final cord. Attacking her friends. She would have joined the Orochi and then drew Himeko to her (who would have wanted to know why she turned) so she could watch her destroy the people she loved.

Now I will list the reasons Souma was ideal and in no way deserves to die in a fire.

!) He was fully faithful to his love to Himeko and loved only her. In real life a man or woman who is truly faithful is someone who should be considered a righteous man/woman who is a godsend in a crazy world.

2) This love of his was great enough that he would deny his own personal feelings in the long run to let Himeko be happy. He would rather die in the fiery pits of hell and have his soul ravaged by Satan rather than see her unhappy. That is how much he loves her. Unlike souma, Chikane couldn't live with just Himeko being happy. she wanted her for herself so they both could be happy. Not that I hate her for it or anything. Just that to me the one who thrives not on their own happiness, but their beloved's happiness, is the ideal choice in a relationship.

3) He never once did anything of his own will that would warrant hatred. Many fans just chose to hate on him for any of the following reasons.

*He was male and they were man haters
*He was heterosexual and they are het is ew fanatics
*Or they were Yuri purists who think Yuri is naturally more pure than any other

And any decent righteous human being would not believe that and accept all sexual orientations of other people.

4) He protected Himeko just as much as Chikane if not more. But mostly in a more direct sense. All those saving the day from the other Orochi's count for good merit.

Now I will list why souma got it worse than Chikane.

1) He will never be with the one he truly loves. And there is no guarantee that he reincarnates like the priestesses. so he may never be happy.

2) All he did was try to help Himeko. But Chikane tried to drive him away in the end. She didn't even have the right mind to thank him for all the trouble he went through to save her destined lover nor did she even thank him for understanding that the two girls were destined to be with each other. At least sincerely thank the guy for being an ideal friend.

3) He died in the manga and for nothing. He got no consolation at the end as far as we were shown. The poor guy just ups and dies.

As you can see he got the short end of the stick. Not even the stick. He got the microscopic insects that live in the stick.

For a guy who can go and die like that for nothing but still have some dignity you should pay the proper respects instead of hating him.

Now I am not against any ChikanexHimeko pairings but for gods sake. Give the Yuri purist crap a rest. Love the Yuri, but cast out your own hatred for non Yuri relationships. A decent righteous human being would. No one sexual orientation or preferred relationship is better, more pure, or more emotional over the other by nature. To believe that is truly the definition of being narrow minded.

Now if you excuse me I am going to go watch Batman and listen to Batman music. Because that s**t is pure awesome like crack mixed with testosterone.

Oh and if any het is ew fan or whatnot decided to come spewing their nonsense in front of me in person expect them all to have a broken nose. No offense but I can't stand people who are a straw definition of things like het is ew or feminists or anything of the sort including women haters.

PS: I AM BATMAN. A MAN.
TheKaiserKnightOct 31, 2013 4:45 PM
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I like your post very much, ZombieGodKai. :> EVERYTHING IS TRUE.



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Ugh no shit... I honestly don't get the fuss with how popular this series become or why a lot of people love it. I'm glad i'm not the only one who hates Himeko x Chikane...

Seriously, do people ship Chikane and Himeko just because they're both girls and Chikane did a unjustified and unacceptable action toward Himeko. Doesn't matter what or why Chikane did it so. She just rape Himeko and causes her harmful damages. Now if you think Chikane did it to make Himeko hate her is reasonable, could you imagine Souma doing the same action with the same reason to Himeko. Yep, I ruin your mind with rapist Souma didn't I heh...

From what I'm guessing, fans support Chikane's actions because they think rape between the same-sex is okay than opposite-sex rape. Well, it is still equivalent horrible! Rape is an act of violence for god damn sake! Doesn't matter the reason behind it!

This isn't the first time I received this kind of treatment with the biggest abomination of yuri/yaoi shippings with falling in love with their rapist and yet so many people are supporting the shippings for the rapist's freudian excuse.
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Chiibi said:
Charmandar said:
ur so dum it's funny

im growing bored 。◕‿◕。


Oh.........that's it.

Shut up, troll before I report your ass.

This is an ANTI-ChikaxHime club-what other reason do you have to be here besides to TROLL!?

Get a life, why don't you? If you love this shitty pairing so much, GO TO THE PRO-CHIKAXHIME CLUB.

On topic, I'm pleased to report ChikanexHimeko officially sucks. Even the head of a giant yaoi/yuri hentai doujinshi company full-heartedly confirms this.

PWNED, CxH SHIPPERS. PWNED.


Don't worry Suki, we won't truly get the shitty retared fanboys/fangirls' reasons for their love toward Missrapist x Himeko; the same reason why people went crazy over Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey.
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Ugh no shit... I honestly don't get the fuss with how popular this series become or why a lot of people love it. I'm glad i'm not the only one who hates Himeko x Chikane...

Don't get me wrong; I like everything else about the series BUT the canon pairing...and Chikane herself.



From what I'm guessing, fans support Chikane's actions because they think rape between the same-sex is okay than opposite-sex rape.


I'm convinced that's the only reason. If Chikane was a guy, he'd be the most hated character ever.

This isn't the first time I received this kind of treatment with the biggest abomination of yuri/yaoi shippings with falling in love with their rapist and yet so many people are supporting the shippings for the rapist's freudian excuse.

IKR it's f*cking unacceptable and repulsive. It happens so much that I normally end shipping a hetero pairing that's...you know, NOT abusive and gross and shallow and forced. lol Loveless? I'm team Yuiko because Soubi's a f*cking pedophile and creepy. Gravitation? The only good thing is the comedy and music. And maybe the side characters. Kuroshitsuji? I'm not against CielxSeb but I like LizxCiel. NightWalker? The canon straight pairing is adorable and sweet and the gay pairing is one-sided, selfish, and abusive....guess which one is more popular!?
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My yaoi otp is Yami No Matsuei's TsuzukixHisoka. ^^ SO cute together; care so much for each other...but always bickering like the Odd Couple; friggin' love pairs like this. XD

My yuri otp is Venus Verses Virus's LuciaxSumire. When they're together, they make a great duo; neither one pushes her feelings selfishly on the other!



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