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Feb 4, 2009 7:38 PM
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So Syaoran still fails at saving Sakura.

And now I guess the "final" feather is in Tokyo?
Feb 4, 2009 9:52 PM
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It is in Tokyo... just remember... there's still a feather in Tokyo... No shit... no that can be possible... no I can't believe it... My eyes aren't tricking me right... so the answer is in Tokyo... X Tokyo no the less...Shit I can't believe... and baka R!Syao couldn't save his Sakura... shut it... c'mon finish this suffering already! XD

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Feb 4, 2009 10:17 PM
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v.v

I give up CLAMP....my brain is officially mush.
Feb 5, 2009 12:50 AM
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v.v

I give up CLAMP....my brain is officially mush.


Who'll be the brave soul that will free us from the confusion (explaining wtf happened this chapter) D=
Feb 5, 2009 4:16 AM
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Nothing happened in this chapter. Only a series of revealing information got exposed, but nothing actually happened XD

Though I'm a bit confused of how Tokyo is intertwined with Clow Country...that didn't quite make a lot of sense to me. But I guess the future chapters will tell...I just don't want to wait that LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDD

MORE TOKYO REVELATIONS!!!!!!!

Feb 5, 2009 4:43 AM
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So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...
Feb 5, 2009 6:40 AM
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So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...

that was my understanding too.

now I don't think Syaoran "failed" at saving Sakura; more like the "sakura being in danger" was another set-up. I say this 'cause per Wong, the times are distorted, so maybe the group still have a chance to save the real Sakura.

I am now wondering how will Yuuko's preparations in xxxHolic tie with these events xD
Feb 5, 2009 7:16 AM
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Kino_no_Tabi said:

that was my understanding too.

now I don't think Syaoran "failed" at saving Sakura; more like the "sakura being in danger" was another set-up. I say this 'cause per Wong, the times are distorted, so maybe the group still have a chance to save the real Sakura.

I am now wondering how will Yuuko's preparations in xxxHolic tie with these events xD


Or maybe everything is a huge Xanathos Roullete by FWR, who is really Future R!Syaoran , so to make sure that his past self manages to save Sakura X_x


This chapter officially broke my mind...


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So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...


Oh but now...Celes, Nihon, too had the trademark "two pillars towering above everything" in a sense. What if worlds of Nihon, Celes, Clow, Tokyo are in fact the same one in different epochs?

O_o

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Death-Summoner said:
So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...


That sounds formidable. I'm going to go with that theory for the time being. Makes a lot of sense.
Feb 5, 2009 8:28 AM
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So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...


Yes, this sounds about right, so I'll go with this as the gospel truth until TRC throws another spanner in the works, lest my brain just give up and shut down trying to think of another way >__<
Feb 5, 2009 10:10 AM

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Present day Tokyo, huh? I'll be honest in saying that I did not see that coming. Quite an interesting way that it was brought about too.

Regardless, this seemed more of a set-up chapter than anything. Looking forward to the next one.
Feb 5, 2009 10:52 AM

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But of course -- CLAMP are obsessed with Tokyo. I should smack myself for not seeing this one coming, lol. EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN TOKYO ACCORDING TO CLAMP MANGA! ^__^


Feb 5, 2009 12:17 PM

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I sort of just stared at the last page for a minute. Once again CLAMP causes my brain to explode.

I agree that this is a set-up chapter. For perhaps the Real final arc. But I think I give up predicting CLAMP.
Feb 5, 2009 12:54 PM
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Sweet. Mindfuck galore all over again. thanks a bunch CLAMP!
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But of course -- CLAMP are obsessed with Tokyo. I should smack myself for not seeing this one coming, lol. EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN TOKYO ACCORDING TO CLAMP MANGA! ^__^


which BETTER mean that after TRC is over, the finally go back to continuing X/1999 because i want to see what happens there!

D<

/rant xD

sweet chapter o-o!
Feb 5, 2009 2:29 PM

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So Clow Country was actually Tokyo in the future.. I makes perfect sence according to what Fei Wong says. CLAMP are the true masters at making complex storylines XD
Feb 5, 2009 2:42 PM

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waa.... What will happen to Tokyo!!! well, Mokona finally appear with the noice of a feather. Will they go to Tokyo again?

waiting for chapter 213
Feb 5, 2009 3:18 PM

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Oh true Mokona appeared just from thin air hahahaha... YEah I missed to say that... Obviously trying to predict CLAMP always is impossible... they'll trow us a bone or whatever to make us think oh we got 'em and blow our mind with the suchs of Clow World is a future Tokyo...

Regarding to who said that Celes could be a Tokyo, I doubt so... or maybe but it's to weird to put Celes as a timeline of Tokyo... Let's put it like this

Nihon (PAST Tokyo) ---> Yuuko's Tokyo ---> X Tokyo ---> Clow World (Future Tokyo) ---> Celes (Extratemporal Future Tokyo)

Take Celes just as a possibility not a must

True... Tokyo is important to CLAMP's mangas... Putting aside, if I'm wrong then someone correct me, RG Veda, something in CLAMP stories happens in Tokyo... just like NoyaChan said... Final battle of CCS happened in the Tokyo Tower... X is TOkyo centric... CLAMP CAMPUS Detectives and Dunkylyon happen inside a school in Tokyo... Yuuko, Himawari, Doumeki, Watanuki, etc are in "present" Tokyo...

It's decided... Tokyo has the answers for our questions... Well hope so -_-u

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Whoa. We see the crazy chessmaster move here.

But yeah, thinking about it, we knew when they were traveling between worlds that some were more advanced than others, probably due to how old the civilization was, but we (or really i) never thought that some of these places could in fact be the same place at a different time.

lol did CLAMP just become a chessmaster too by putting these things all in the same place at different times? nah, that was probably an afterthought. but something that would be an interesting question to ask them.

crazy and awesome twist. very cool.
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...If it is present day Tokyo, I wonder if we are going to run into the original CCS Syaoran and Sakura :)

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...If it is present day Tokyo, I wonder if we are going to run into the original CCS Syaoran and Sakura :P

Feb 5, 2009 4:18 PM

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...If it is present day Tokyo, I wonder if we are going to run into the original CCS Syaoran and Sakura :)



Its the Tokyo, as in "Tokyo world" - remember the little happy adventure they had there, which resulted in Fai loosing his eye?

Apparently that Tokyo is the PAST of Clow Country.
Feb 5, 2009 8:45 PM

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Aarana said:
...If it is present day Tokyo, I wonder if we are going to run into the original CCS Syaoran and Sakura :P


i thought CCS Sakura & Syaoran was from Yuuko's Tokyo.
Feb 5, 2009 9:48 PM

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Time paradoxes are always such fun ;D
Feb 5, 2009 10:57 PM

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If Tokyo has the answer then I so hope they finish X after this ¬¬ Having so much about X in TRC and X not finished is starting to annoy me...

Anyway, weird chapter... When you put it like Tokyo —> Clow it makes sense, maybe even more sense than it looks like... Let's say, Clow Cards —> Clow Country, Sakura is not Sakura-hime's true name... Maybe Sakura (CCS) made something to cause that in presente Tokyo.. After all, she is the most powerful magician of all times, right? Or according to Clow, she was... And CLAMP have fun mixing up all the mangas in TRC...
Let's see... Next chapter shall have more revelations x3

Btw, damn Syaoran... He waited that much time to save Sakura-hime and totally forgot it when time started flowing ¬¬
Feb 5, 2009 11:12 PM

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CLAMP is really complicating things..... so abstract...

but sooo good! so apparently the desert place that sakura and syaoran were from is the same as Tokyo?

how confusing!

oh, and is this where the reservoir part of TRC comes from?
Feb 6, 2009 4:38 AM

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.. CLAMP should just stick to XXXHOLiC imo.
I leave it at that.
Feb 6, 2009 10:47 AM

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When I saw, that The Clow Country is Tokyo in different times I was shocked. I thought that TRC will never be connected with X/1999 that much. Clamp doesn't have new ideas that's why they connected TRC with X/1999?? or maybe Clamp love their X/1999 so much that they can't leave this alone?? :) What would you think? or maybe I'm wrong and 'Tokyo' is only Tokyo the usually place, but important to Clamp which are in many Clamp's mangas.
However I waiting for chapter 213^^


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When I saw, that The Clow Country is Tokyo in different times I was shocked. I thought that TRC will never be connected with X/1999 that much. Clamp doesn't have new ideas that's why they connected TRC with X/1999?? or maybe Clamp love their X/1999 so much that they can't leave this alone?? :) What would you think? or maybe I'm wrong and 'Tokyo' is only Tokyo the usually place, but important to Clamp which are in many Clamp's mangas.
However I waiting for chapter 213^^


It is not connected to X/1999.

Its not connected to story of THAT Tokyo.

It is connected to Acid Tokyo obviously..

Remember the world where the whole clone stuff was revealed?

Remember how Sakura left the feather in that reservoir of water and how Yuuko asked the people to preserve and protect the water?

Clow is Future of that world. Through years and years, the rain would obviously corrode all the buildings around, the desert also rose, yet the Tokyo Government Building remained due to the feather.

Hundreds of years pass, the acid rain no longer falls, since atmosphere already stabilized and cleaned itself. People place a monument upon the place where the humanity survived. A monument in form of wings.

A couple of hundred years pass and that monument and the whole underground building is now known as Clow Ruins.





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Now when I think about it - Yuuko's Tokyo might be in that timeline too(as pre-acid Tokyo).

The fact that Syaoran could understand Clow language either means that Clow-Acid-Tokyo is really close to how Yuuko's Tokyo exists OR that its the same world.
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Yuuko claimed an egg from that Tokyo...

...I wonder what happens to FWR now?
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True it's not X TOkyo... it's more like Acid X-like Tokyo.... Everything can be connected... dang ... I want this to be solved now!!!

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The time paradox is a good theory since time flows differently in "different" worlds. I was thinking, however, that maybe Tokyo and Clow Country are just worlds running in parallel. Idk, this chapter just blew my mind away. I guessed Tokyo when FW started describing it but golly, what does that even have to do with anything?! Darn it CLAMP.
Feb 7, 2009 12:04 AM

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Yuuko claimed an egg from that Tokyo...

...I wonder what happens to FWR now?


Oh but who placed the egg there? :)

And hoo joy - Doumeki has a whole unhatched egg, how coincidental =D
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Aarana said:
...If it is present day Tokyo, I wonder if we are going to run into the original CCS Syaoran and Sakura :P


i thought CCS Sakura & Syaoran was from Yuuko's Tokyo.


Original CCS Syaoran and Sakura but as grown ups. Watanuki is their -son- right?

...oh so confused
Feb 11, 2009 6:38 PM

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I give up CLAMP....my brain is officially mush.


My thoughts exactly. Confusing, but great chapter! ^^


*^*Random Rant*^*
Mar 11, 2009 1:23 AM

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what the ... okay now this progression is beginning to get slightly ridiculous =/
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o_olll i dont quite get the tokyo part ...
but this is getting me excited xD

does it have to do with the part when they're in tokyo ?


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So what I understood was that The Clow Country is Tokyo...only in diferent times...kind of makes sence, the water back in Tokyo has been protected by Sakura's feather all along. time passed by and the Towers became the ruins of the Clow Country...


Yes, this sounds about right, so I'll go with this as the gospel truth until TRC throws another spanner in the works, lest my brain just give up and shut down trying to think of another way >__<


Ohhh!
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o what... what just happened those ruins were tokyo...what....
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Fucking Fei Wang man, this dude's plan is beyond over the top.

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