| it says "The worst wish in history. That is the beginning of despair.", but what could that wish be? What do you guys think was wished upon the dragonballs? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-19/dragon-ball-z-animation-director-tadayoshi-yamamuro-will-helm-2015-dbz-film/.76844 |
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XxNuclearHDxX said: What do you guys think was wished upon the dragonballs? Someone wished that there was a sequel to Evolution. |
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| Not much shown so far but there's some more info now. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-22/dragon-ball-z-2015-film-previewed-on-mezamashi-tv/.76923 |
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| Villain : " I wish Goku was evil . " Vegeta has to become a super saiyan god to defeat him. AT did say that in the next film Vegeta could be in the main role http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/02/02/march-2014-saikyo-jump-toriyama-q-a/ and that other saiyans can become super saiyan god http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/ |
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emeraldrosary said: They already all broke out of hell in the DBZ movie "Fusion Reborn".XxNuclearHDxX said: "The worst wish in history. That is the beginning of despair.", but what could that wish be? Hmm, that's kind of interesting. There are so many dangerous wishes out there, but what could be the worst, especially in a world like DBZ. I immediately though of time travel and screwing up the timeline continuum but then I remembered Trunks already did that even without a wish. Then again, it says the worst wish in history. So out of all the wishes we've seen in the DBZ universe it'll be even worse than that. I'd say the worst wish so far was Pilaf when he wished for Goku to be a kid again. So with that in mind, the "worst" doesn't seem that bad ^^ For some reason I have a feeling it'll have to deal with the Outer world. Like maybe all the people from Hell break out and cause havoc. But thinking back, GT already covered that as well. Jeez, all the good ideas are already taken! I suppose the worst wish would be "I want the entire universe to be destroyed" or something along those lines but that kind of wish isn't within the Dragon's capabilities to do so. Given that DBZ's primary theme is growing stronger and obtaining power I'd bet the wish has something to do with that at the very least. |
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| Yeah, when I've gotten into this "sneak peak" on Kanzenshuu and read the tread saying about the "worst wish" I was kinda like that: "hmm, what if someone wished Son Gokū's vanishing, or wanted to completely erase Gokū from the history and then attack the Earth. That (assuming thing's gone well) would automatically put Vegeta in the place of the protagonist. Later on I realized that if it's a story which Toriyama wanted to put in to the manga in the first place, my theory died, 'couse at that time (when drawing manga) master Toriyama probably wasn't planing on doing any movie... Although we never know. Anyway, can't stand waitin'! |
| Extended trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0VN6huexcEM |
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| Lol, story. |
| Hopefully something more gritty and serious than what Battle of Gods had to offer. |
| I bet they'll bring Broly back to life and he'll go super yber sayan and kill everyone. |
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skyUFO said: Broly wasn't canon.I bet they'll bring Broly back to life and he'll go super yber sayan and kill everyone. |
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Heredity said: XxNuclearHDxX said: neither are any of the other movies LOLBroly wasn't canon. Last film was and yeah hopefully it'll be more gritty. And why are you all complaining about last film? it was best one so far, by visuals and the fact that they managed to fit so many things into the film |
dity said: Battle of Gods is, takes place between chapters 517 & 518 of the manga.XxNuclearHDxX said: neither are any of the other movies LOLBroly wasn't canon. |
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| I think they'll revive the original Super Saiyan God they mentioned in the last movie. |
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| pls revive bardock |
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Veszalius said: Bardock's been dead too long, you can only bring someone back with the dragon balls, within a year after they died...pls revive bardock |
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| Maybe they'll revive one of the past Gods of Destruction. It would be cool if it was somebody wishing that Goku was evil, but I the teaser it showed that the wish was reviving someone so I don't think that will happen. |
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| Whoever is reviving I hope its someone like Baby, but instead of taking over Vegeta have him take over Goku. |
| since it says they are bringing someone back to life i'd say either: 1: the entire saiyan race (yes i know of the 1 year time limit but who knows right) 2: (my least favorite) someone we have never met before 3: the first saiyan (again the 1 year thing but maybe time travel or something i have know idea) what i found interesting is it says this is the beginning of despair, which implies that this is only the beginning of something far more terrible. so who ever they revive is going to be to strong for them to stop i presume or can only be temporarily stopped. or maybe goku dies again. either way i can't wait for more to be revealed about the plot |
LordPerucho said: Whoever is reviving I hope its someone like Baby, but instead of taking over Vegeta have him take over Goku. Baby is in GT... GT isn't cannon |
| I think brolly will be back and Hopefully the next movie has all the saiyans fighting full power instead of the same old "goku saves the day" |
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| probs both already been said but yeah I think either some one wishes Goku was evil or Goku wishes to fight the legendary super saiyan god. Either way can't wait for this movie. &I know it's HIGHLY unlikely but seeing Bardock in this movie would also be a huge plus. |
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| Ok, so now that it has been confirmed that Freezer will be revived, It's obvious he will get god-type powers or become immortal. I have a feeling this will end with Freezer either getting trapped in another dimension or escaping to another universe. |
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emeraldrosary said: He's my favorite dbz villain! He just never learns :p I like how he was stubborn till the end, even after goku gave him a bit of energy. I just hope he doesn't die a typical spirit bomb/kamehameha death at the end of the movie lol. It would be interesting if this movie explained a bit about Freezer's past or his race/family.It'll be like Deadzone all over again except instead of Garlic Jr. it'll be Frieza. Since Beerus is in it it will undoubtedly have something to do with the Gods of Destruction. Still, I like the fact that Toriyama is bringing back Frieza. He was one of the best villains in DBZ through his ruthlessness and cruelty. For the people that haven't heard it yet, this was the song that inspired Toriyama to bring Freezer back: |
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emeraldrosary said: Here is what Toriyama had to say about Vegeta:I'm not exactly sure where but I heard that Vegeta will be the main protagonist in this new movie. Not sure if it's true but what I am interested in is seeing Vegeta and Frieza interact with each other again. Especially since Vegeta became a SS after Frieza was defeated. And not only Vegeta, but Trunks and Goten too. I can imagine Frieza going O_O after seeing so many people turn SS xD "As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)" kereealazer said: Shen Long can only grant one wish, that wish will most likely be the revival of Freezer. I think Freezer will get his powers from another source.I feel like Frieza is gonna be wished back and the minute that happens the Z fighters will sense hi and rush there. Then Frieza will wish to be stronger then Goku and he'll kick everybodies butt's. Then he'll go terrorizing the Universe, Beerus and Whis will realize what's happening and team up with the Z fighters to stop Frieza and Vegeta will go SSG/SS3? and finally get revenge on him. |
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Shibuza said: emeraldrosary said: Here is what Toriyama had to say about Vegeta:I'm not exactly sure where but I heard that Vegeta will be the main protagonist in this new movie. Not sure if it's true but what I am interested in is seeing Vegeta and Frieza interact with each other again. Especially since Vegeta became a SS after Frieza was defeated. And not only Vegeta, but Trunks and Goten too. I can imagine Frieza going O_O after seeing so many people turn SS xD "As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)" kereealazer said: Shen Long can only grant one wish, that wish will most likely be the revival of Freezer. I think Freezer will get his powers from another source.I feel like Frieza is gonna be wished back and the minute that happens the Z fighters will sense hi and rush there. Then Frieza will wish to be stronger then Goku and he'll kick everybodies butt's. Then he'll go terrorizing the Universe, Beerus and Whis will realize what's happening and team up with the Z fighters to stop Frieza and Vegeta will go SSG/SS3? and finally get revenge on him. Shibuza said: emeraldrosary said: Here is what Toriyama had to say about Vegeta:I'm not exactly sure where but I heard that Vegeta will be the main protagonist in this new movie. Not sure if it's true but what I am interested in is seeing Vegeta and Frieza interact with each other again. Especially since Vegeta became a SS after Frieza was defeated. And not only Vegeta, but Trunks and Goten too. I can imagine Frieza going O_O after seeing so many people turn SS xD "As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)" kereealazer said: Shen Long can only grant one wish, that wish will most likely be the revival of Freezer. I think Freezer will get his powers from another source.I feel like Frieza is gonna be wished back and the minute that happens the Z fighters will sense hi and rush there. Then Frieza will wish to be stronger then Goku and he'll kick everybodies butt's. Then he'll go terrorizing the Universe, Beerus and Whis will realize what's happening and team up with the Z fighters to stop Frieza and Vegeta will go SSG/SS3? and finally get revenge on him. Actually Shenron can grant 2 wishes since Dende upgraded him upon becoming Kami sama. I mean Frieza and company might just get one wish but I don't think if he's strong enough to take Z fighters that can go above Super Saiyan. That's why I think Frieza will wish to be stronger somehow if Shenron can even do something like that. |
| I think the second wish will be to disallow the saiyans from turning super saiyan. According to Bills in BOG Goku only defeated Frieza because of super saiyan. This movie might put his theory to the test. When you do think about it there is no canonical evidence that supports the idea that base Goku is stronger than 100% max power Frieza. Frieza might still need a power boost though considering Piccolo would be way stronger than him. |
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kereealazer said: Shibuza said: Here is what Toriyama had to say about Vegeta: "As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)" Shen Long can only grant one wish, that wish will most likely be the revival of Freezer. I think Freezer will get his powers from another source. Shibuza said: Here is what Toriyama had to say about Vegeta: "As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)" Shen Long can only grant one wish, that wish will most likely be the revival of Freezer. I think Freezer will get his powers from another source. Actually Shenron can grant 2 wishes since Dende upgraded him upon becoming Kami sama. I mean Frieza and company might just get one wish but I don't think if he's strong enough to take Z fighters that can go above Super Saiyan. That's why I think Frieza will wish to be stronger somehow if Shenron can even do something like that. Nope, only 1 wish since in the trailer Shenron said ''I will grant u 1 wish'' |
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kereealazer said: Shen long says: Now, say your wish. I will grant you any one wish only.Actually Shenron can grant 2 wishes since Dende upgraded him upon becoming Kami sama. I mean Frieza and company might just get one wish but I don't think if he's strong enough to take Z fighters that can go above Super Saiyan. That's why I think Frieza will wish to be stronger somehow if Shenron can even do something like that. DrGeroCreation said: Remember when Goku fought Bills? When he went back to his normal form and could still trade punches with him? If he can do that to Bills then Freezer wouldn't be a problem for him. You're also ignoring the fact that Saiyans grow stronger after every battle.I think the second wish will be to disallow the saiyans from turning super saiyan. According to Bills in BOG Goku only defeated Frieza because of super saiyan. This movie might put his theory to the test. When you do think about it there is no canonical evidence that supports the idea that base Goku is stronger than 100% max power Frieza. Frieza might still need a power boost though considering Piccolo would be way stronger than him. |
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| Well, There is a summary that says two of freiza old commrades are going to wish for freiza to be revived. Although considering that goku's power has sky rocketed from the fight with the god of destruction, how big of a deal can a revived freiza even be? |
Shibuza said: Goku was only able to still trade punches because he retained some of the power from the super saiyan god transformation. We don't know for sure if he still has that power . I know saiyans become stronger after every battle and gain zenkais from surviving near death experiences but the power boosts from those are nothing compared to the power boosts achieved from unlocking the super saiyan forms. For example in the Namek and Frieza sagas both Vegeta and Gohan gained zenkais (Gohan even additionally got a power unlock from Guru) yet at the end of the day they were no match for final form Frieza ( note Gohan fighting final form Frieza after SSJ Goku fell into the sea was filler). Goku also gained a zenkai after rejuvenating in the medical machine from the beating his body got when Captain Ginyu was in it yet he was no where as powerful as Frieza at 100%. He only became stronger than Frieza because of the power boost of the super saiyan transformation.[Remember when Goku fought Bills? When he went back to his normal form and could still trade punches with him? If he can do that to Bills then Freezer wouldn't be a problem for him. You're also ignoring the fact that Saiyans grow stronger after every battle. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Goku has been through a lot since the end of the Freezer arc. I think you're underestimating the zenkai boosts and his fighting experience, his training in the Room of spirit and time, his training in the other world, his Kaio-ken technique(When Goku first mastered the Kaio-ken the most he could handle was Kaio-ken x4, but through training at 100x gravity and then later with his power boost after his fight with Ginyu, he was able to withstand stunning multiplications, such as Kaio-ken x10. The highest multiplication for the Kaio-ken ever seen was Kaio-ken x20, which Goku used against Freezer at that time. Imagine Goku using the Kaio-ken ability now.) And just like rosary said, his instantaneous movement gives him a great advantage. Even if Goku was not able to finish him, we still got the fusion technique, Gohan's his mystic powers(arguable) and Piccolo like you said in your previous post.Goku was only able to still trade punches because he retained some of the power from the super saiyan god transformation. We don't know for sure if he still has that power . I know saiyans become stronger after every battle and gain zenkais from surviving near death experiences but the power boosts from those are nothing compared to the power boosts achieved from unlocking the super saiyan forms. For example in the Namek and Frieza sagas both Vegeta and Gohan gained zenkais (Gohan even additionally got a power unlock from Guru) yet at the end of the day they were no match for final form Frieza ( note Gohan fighting final form Frieza after SSJ Goku fell into the sea was filler). Goku also gained a zenkai after rejuvenating in the medical machine from the beating his body got when Captain Ginyu was in it yet he was no where as powerful as Frieza at 100%. He only became stronger than Frieza because of the power boost of the super saiyan transformation. |
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| I'm so glad my favourite villain is coming back. LightasGrimm said: Well, There is a summary that says two of freiza old commrades are going to wish for freiza to be revived. Although considering that goku's power has sky rocketed from the fight with the god of destruction, how big of a deal can a revived freiza even be? I think he's gonna be stronger this time. Maybe he was training while being dead like Goku did. There's no way Akira Toriyama is gonna bring Frieza back without making him more powerful than he was back in the Frieza saga. |
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| The way Goku turned SSJ God was also pretty cheap if you ask me. I kind of liked the saiyan tail concept of GT. What if Goku got his tail back and turned super saiyan? What if transforming while having a tail will cause him to go SSJ God or some other kind of powerful state.. What if the legendary super saiyan was actually a SSJ God? I mean they never showed someone turn SSJ while having a tail before right? Anyway that's how I would have done it. I also hope this movie clears up the whole ultimate Gohan/SSJ thing because it made no sense for him to use his mystic form to attack Bills and turn SSJ afterwards to help Goku achieve his God form. So which one is stronger? Shouldn't SSJ be a 50x multiplier? Oh well.. DBZ plotholes are nothing new. I'm still looking forward to the film. |
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kereealazer said: I think it's either Gohan or Goten. I guess I'll go for Gohan since he, Piccolo and Krillin have always been a team. Speaking of growth spurts, Trunks and Goten should have looked older in Battle of Gods since it is set 5 years after the defeat of Majin Buu. This is what Trunks should have looked like:Who do you guys think the guy in green is? I don't know if it's Gohan but who else could it be unless Goten had a major growth spurt. Thoughts?  |
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Shibuza said: kereealazer said: I think it's either Gohan or Goten. I guess I'll go for Gohan since he, Piccolo and Krillin have always been a team. Speaking of growth spurts, Trunks and Goten should have looked older in Battle of Gods since it is set 5 years after the defeat of Majin Buu. This is what Trunks should have looked like:Who do you guys think the guy in green is? I don't know if it's Gohan but who else could it be unless Goten had a major growth spurt. Thoughts? Ya they should've which is why I guess it could be Goten. Gohan will be there even if that's not him. I'm sure he'll be around the fight doing commentary and maybe getting a crack at Frieza again. |
emeraldrosary said: I doubt it. From what I remember most dead people aren't even allowed to keep their bodies unless they did some exceptional good during their lifetimes. You can bet Frieza doesn't fall into that category. He did keep his body though, as seen in the Buu saga. |
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babymimi said: That part was filler ;)emeraldrosary said: I doubt it. From what I remember most dead people aren't even allowed to keep their bodies unless they did some exceptional good during their lifetimes. You can bet Frieza doesn't fall into that category. He did keep his body though, as seen in the Buu saga. |
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