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Aug 12, 2009 6:00 PM
#1
| why the negative and annoyance towards kaname? me specifically? 1) he's zero's total rival, both in power, love, and status... 2) he's a bit 2o strong for my lking, the fact tat he can do w/e he rely wants 2... 3) the fact he's so bonded with yuki... 4) his sometimes stuck up attitude... grr... 5) how he treats zero lk crap and something he can get rid of anytime (even though it's true) share your opinion... XP |
oboyomyAug 12, 2009 7:15 PM
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Aug 13, 2009 7:50 AM
#2
| 1. He makes me mad when he thinks Yuuki is his (like a thing) 2. He annoys me when he forces Yuuki 3. He does things with Yuuki in front of Zero (no thought in that) 4. He's always selfish and looks the other way around when it comes to Yuuki ( I personally don't think it's bad, but I would like him to at least care a little) This is all I can really think about. (for now anyway) |
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Aug 13, 2009 8:22 AM
#3
| I could go all day on this topic, but I won't. 1. The fact that he manipulated others to protect Yuki. 2. He doesn't fight for Yuki on his own. 3. At times he seems emotionally dead. |
Aug 13, 2009 10:35 AM
#4
| @hastij04 hastij04 said: 3. At times he seems emotionally dead. hmm... zero has that characteristic also, doesn't he...? *wonders* |
Aug 13, 2009 10:36 AM
#5
oboyomy said: @hastij04 hastij04 said: 3. At times he seems emotionally dead. hmm... zero has that characteristic also, doesn't he...? *wonders* I think Zero does too. (But not as much as Kaname) |
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Aug 13, 2009 10:56 AM
#6
| What I mean is......You see Zero suffering and he shows his emotion, but Kaname acts like a robot. |
Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM
#7
hastij04 said: What I mean is......You see Zero suffering and he shows his emotion, but Kaname acts like a robot. Now that makes more sense. Kaname does seem to act like a robot towards feelings |
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Aug 14, 2009 12:05 PM
#8
| Let's face it. Kaname is just a frat-boy. Bleh! |
Aug 14, 2009 6:21 PM
#9
paigy_loli said: 1. He makes me mad when he thinks Yuuki is his (like a thing) 2. He annoys me when he forces Yuuki 3. He does things with Yuuki in front of Zero (no thought in that) 4. He's always selfish and looks the other way around when it comes to Yuuki ( I personally don't think it's bad, but I would like him to at least care a little) This is all I can really think about. (for now anyway) Those are mostly what bothers me about him too. He's too full of himself >.> |
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Aug 15, 2009 4:42 AM
#12
| @ kathi : I can't believe I miss some of the good points you said about Kaname. I totally agree with you when you said about Kaname using his friends and abonding them. I think he shouldn't even deserve them. (or they shouldn't even be with him just because he's a pure blood, or at least think their friends) Kaname always seem like he's high and mighty. He was the first line of pure blood. Mentioned himself after Rido tried to kill Yuuki. (I forgot the chapter) |
paigy_loliAug 15, 2009 4:58 AM
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Aug 15, 2009 7:05 PM
#13
| @kathi: can't put it any better myself... @paigy: well, i believe he doesn't deserve friends either... but u have 2 understand, his friends are loyal and respect him and will do anything for him in gratitude that he's letting his so called "friends" choose to follow him or not... he's not forcing them using his pure blood powers, but letting them decide... i remember there was a part in the story where aidou respected him for that... so, i guess to his friends, tat is a sacrifice and reason enough that they should be loyal to him |
Aug 15, 2009 7:21 PM
#14
| @ oboyomy: Yeah, I know what you mean. Kaname does have that uniqueness about him. |
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Aug 16, 2009 2:56 AM
#15
| Oh well most of you wrote why I hate Kaname so I'll be short in words lol He's arrogant, manipulative, selfish, very slimy, uses other people for his own goals, acts like some kind of God and thinks that he posses people and thing..also he's the biggest coward in the world. He always run and leave the others to clean his garbage. Did I mentioned that he's a jerk too lol?! |
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Aug 16, 2009 7:38 AM
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Aug 17, 2009 8:36 AM
#17
| +First of all, I hate him because he was Zero's rival. +I was a truly HUGE fan of Zero! +He was the person who always get in the way whenever Zero get chance to be with Yuuki! +His appearance were too messy with untied long hair. Urgh! +He doesn't have any good requirements being a suitable boyfriend for Yuuki even as a candidate! Most of all, he always FULL OF HIMSELF. If he didn't exist in VK, Zero's life must be much happier with Yuuki. Hmph! |
Aug 17, 2009 10:10 AM
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Aug 17, 2009 11:22 AM
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Aug 17, 2009 7:23 PM
#20
_Ayase said: If he didn't exist in VK, Zero's life must be much happier with Yuuki. Hmph! I totally agree but then the vk serie would be much shorter than now. (but that's just me) * w * |
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Aug 17, 2009 8:40 PM
#21
| but personally, from wt i see, the point of the story is almost impossible for yuki to be with zero, just because yuki and kaname has too much an attachment, from what the storyline evolved to. unless future storyline has a big twist, otherwise, things will stay the way they are. |
Aug 17, 2009 8:42 PM
#22
oboyomy said: but personally, from wt i see, the point of the story is almost impossible for yuki to be with zero, just because yuki and kaname has too much an attachment, from what the storyline evolved to. unless future storyline has a big twist, otherwise, things will stay the way they are. so true. |
paigy_loliAug 17, 2009 8:46 PM
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Aug 18, 2009 9:20 AM
#24
| @oboyomy : i think those who are kaname's fans was blind. zero was too much way better than kaname. i hope 'they' will find the true path which person was better. @paigy_loli : thnx. yes i agree with ya! *high five*. nah, i dun care it gonna be shorter or what as long as Yuuki together with Zero. that's all. XD |
Aug 19, 2009 7:45 AM
#25
| @ayase: LOL... trust me, i hope dey do 2o... although im sure kaname supporters will tell us zero supporters tat we're blind... =.=ll @kathi: somehow, i feel that the day that yuuki followed kaname, she had already chosen her path... true, she can't forget abt zero, but her decision was made to be with kaname no matter what and would do w/e he asks... |
Aug 20, 2009 3:06 AM
#26
| ....I really dont like him!!!....I dont like his: ~Looks ~attitude ~when he goes lovey-dovey with yuuki ~I dunn like him cus he's like the bro of yuuki....so why are they like...engaged or something ~hmm....HIS EVERYTHING~! |
"The scar had not pained Harry for nineteen years. All was well." |
Aug 20, 2009 7:02 AM
#27
| @oboyomy : i know that they will say the same thing. but almost everything that kaname do was harming zero and he does that makes ppl would think he was a selfish person. they are the actual "blinders". XD @animecrazee98 : u seems dun like kaname everything bout him. rofl. me too. but the first thing i hate bout him was he always FULL OF HIMSELF! |
Aug 20, 2009 7:14 AM
#28
| @animecrazee98 and others who said stuff abt his looks : his looks are fine... rofl... i actually lk the art by Matsuri Hino... i noe there are those who feel yuki is hideous or w/e and tat their eyes are 2o big, but personally, the art was one thing tat made me drawn to vk and love it... =__=ll so even though i hate kaname, his looks are pretty much fine... it's mostly his personality... >=P |
Aug 20, 2009 7:28 AM
#30
| @kathi: who's zeki? and personally the fact that hino-sama is making zero's image so good still and the possibility that yuuki still has feelings for him during the entire year gap, shows that zero's still in the run somehow in terms of storyline development... |
Aug 20, 2009 11:37 AM
#32
| lol, call me slow... had you not said the short forms wt they meant, i would never have guessed... (and i called myself a vk fan... =.=ll fail...) |
Aug 22, 2009 9:29 AM
#33
| Main reason why I hate Kaname, he annoys me :| And I don't think he should have Yuuki .. they're related! |
Aug 22, 2009 4:04 PM
#34
| to some, the more it's forbidden, the more it's tempting... incest has always been something... hmm... divided to mankind... some are 100% disgusted, some are... imaginative, i should say, in tat area... =.=ll |
Aug 23, 2009 5:45 PM
#35
| I can't believe I haven't responded to this yet >___<;; Hmm, Reading through here I think all my reasons have been stated already. And in much better wording I could have ever put it. You all are amazing~ The way you put it actually makes sense, so I bet you never get attacked with "WTF YOUR REASONS SUCK YOU HAVE NO REASON TO HATE KANAME-SAMA!!!!1!" like I am xD;; See, it's all in the wording! My reasons sound bad because I word them weirdly D: I am envious haha. & as for whether ZeKi is still possible or not.- I shall keep my hopes alive till the very end. No matter what happens. ^^ I don't care if Yuuki and Kaname are engaged! Hino-sensei has proved to use that she's not afraid to pull out a completely unexpected plot twist so who knows really. ZeroxYuuki is one of my all-time favorite anime/manga pairings, so I refuse to give up hope. although I admit that logically, it would be impossible since KanaKi is the more popular pairing with it's main fanbase and authors/manag-kas usually base their endings on what the majority wants. Damn. |
Starrlightx3Aug 30, 2009 12:51 PM
Aug 23, 2009 7:00 PM
#36
| @starrlight: yes, i agree with you abt supporting zeki even if yuki and kaname gets engaged... just that, for me at least, i will have to grit my teeth every single time i see kaname lay even a finger on yuki... >=/ just each time i see it, i yell at him: hands off... XP |
Aug 23, 2009 7:16 PM
#37
| @ oboyomy xD me too~ I'm always like "wtfgetyourhandsoffherNOW!" and once they got engaged, a lot of people who didn't like KanaKi before that preferred them over ZeKi :[ JUST because they were more canon *sigh* but hey, the pairing I prefer not being the canon one never stopped me before lol. I'm used to it xD;; I SHALL REBEL >:D |
Aug 25, 2009 9:58 AM
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Aug 25, 2009 1:37 PM
#40
I was referring to the main fanbase, which is the Japanese one. & in the end, that's only fanbase that's opinion matters, they could give a crap less what people over seas think :/ & I thought that the poll that zeki won in was taken before, uh, you know what happened (don't feel like putting a spoiler tag here lol)? I was told that after that zeki lost a lot of fans in Japan cause Zero said he'd kill her. Which only made me love them together even more, personally... TRAGIC ROMANCE~! <333 yayyy...lol I'm so masochistic... Although, if they really are still more popular and I was given false information, please let me know. It'd make me very happy to know that it's still the more popular pairing with the main fanbase~ I'll agree that zeki seems more popular with the overseas fanbases though, although as I said they don't care about us >__<;; I respect Hino-sensei as well, she inspires me a lot and is one of my favorite manga-kas. and it always seemed to me like she was the type who would go about the story how she wanted, regardless of what the majority wanted. However, in the end the whole thing is a buisness after all, unfortunetly. If you go with what the minority wants, you lose money. So most manga-kas go with the more popular, even that wasn't what they planned from the beginning :[ Sad fact, but it's sadly true. And even if Hino-sensei herself wanted go against majority, her editor could very easily refuse the idea. They have a lot of say in the matter, and there have been cases where an author will want to do something with their story and the editor is basically like "no, if you do that I lose money so I will not allow you to". D: Yeah, I heard that thoery too quite a bit. I like the way someone put it. To quote (cant remember who it was :/) "doesn't it feel like she's stuffing our faces with massive ammounts of kanaki now to prepare us for when they go their separate ways?" I really like that thoery. It makes sense, since the whole entire story has been revolving around them lately... so I do think it's possible that's what she's going for. Or, at least I hope so anyways. Or something along those lines, at least. It kinda amuses me, how alot of the kanaki fans are like convinced that it'll have a zeki ending, and visa versa lmao. Just like a lot of Zero's fans are convinced he's gonna die in the end, whereas a lot Kaname's fans are convinced he's gonna die. lol, we're all a tad bit paranoid aren't we? xD although unfortunatly I'm one of those people TT;; hmm, I think that if they don't end up together then all the kanaki moments now will be worth it in the end. But where the story stands right now, it bothers me when he touches her. a lot. Took out long wtf-ness that was orginally here. It was my way of responding to "only supporting zeki for Zero's sake" but..well, read my 2nd edit down there. this is the only part i left in: I LOVE tragic romances <3 wayyy too much for my own good, actually lol. So all that did was fuel it. A lot of people say they love Kanaki now because it's "forbidden and tragic" but...it's not. At all. Sure, in real life it would be. BrotherxSister? Hell yes, that would be extremely forbidden and tragic. However, the way the story is set up it's the exact opposite. Everyone expects them to be together. They're "destined" for eachother. She was born for the sole purpose of being his bride! I don't see how that's the least bit tragic, personally. EDIT;; WTF I DIDN'T I RANTED THAT MUCH *dies* so sorry. long post is long. needs spoiler tags. It was originally directed at Kathi's response to my post, but it's really for anyone who cares enough is bored enough to read it and respond so I removed the @ I'll shut up now. Be happy. ;] EDIT2;; edited out the random story. It was supposed to be my response to the "only support zeki for Zero's sake" part of Kathi's post. turned out to be a long story filled with wtf i don't care-ness. just now got around to realizing it. so sorry to anyone I made put up with the random shit. I'm gonna save it in a word document, so if anyone is honestly that curious to how i would go about explaining myself, ask and I'll send it to you. (<said cause one of my friends is getting a MAL and they'll probably want to see it. So no, I do not really think that some random person on the internet is going to ask so stop laughing now TT.) I left in the whole thing about the so called "tragedy" of kanayuu though, just cause it's actually something of use. |
Starrlightx3Aug 27, 2009 1:56 PM
Aug 25, 2009 2:52 PM
#41
| holy freak, starr... ROFL... how long did it take you to type this? XD but dun wry, i was bored enough 2 read the entire thing... -___-ll the thing that u ppl mentioned abt authors laying out their story depending on what readers want, that wasn't really the case in death note, was it? XP haha... that's mainly why i did love death note during my time reading it. epic story... =P |
Aug 25, 2009 3:04 PM
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Aug 27, 2009 1:35 PM
#44
| @Kathi and anyone else who cares oh, good! I was worried, thought I killed the thread! xD;; I was actually considering deleting it haha. (in response to your 'yuuki killing kananme with her own hands' thing) lol, I've always loved that idea. as unlikely as it may be but meh :/ I actually wrote a fanfic after chap 52 where Yuuki kills Kaname with her own hands and ends up with Zero xDDD Never posted it online though, cause I was scared how people react o__o it was fun to write though ~ hmm, i wonder then. I would be curious which pairing would win now if they retook the poll. I'd love to see what the Japanese fanbase is thinking on the whole thing. Although I was told the KanaYuu is the more popular one now :| Wonder how reliable my source was lol. I buy too~ but unfortunatly, not many people overseas buy. Most of them just read online and say "sorry i have no money" which is why the main fanbase gets all the attention xD;; they get all the cool special edition stuff, and they also get all the manga-ka's attention. They could care less about us, since all we're there for is a little bit of pocket change. Most of them don't even know which characters/couples are more popular with the overseas fans cause they don't care enough. + you'd be suprised how much say the editor gets haha. Well, actually, I'm not sure how it is with manga now that I think about it... but in TV, books, anything of the like, the editors get a lot of say in the matter. If they hear that a certain couple is popular, then the writer says they're planning to have a character in the popular couple end up with someone else, they do have the abilty to refuse it. If they really wanted to, they could basically control the whole story. I wouldn't be too incredibly suprised if it was the same in Japan. lmao! YES! finally someone points out the stupidity of completely random girls suddenly thought of as Zero's new love interest xDDD there's a new one practically every chapter! last chapter it was that random vampire chick, this chapter it's Yori... I'm always just like *facepalm* >< seriously people, if you're going to be so convinced that he has a new love interest, at least give some legiminite reasons already! at least Yori makes some logical sense, i always lol'd at all the vampires. Makes no sense, it's like, okay, zero can't be with yuuki cause she's a vampire. so who should he be with now? oh! I know! lets put him with another vampire! wtf x| wouldn't that make him not ending up with yuuki completely pointless? *facepalms again* but even Yori doesn't make any sense, how did they suddenly come to this conclusion anyhow?! & lol, it's not even like they're just scared their favorite character's going to die, a lot of people are outright convinced that if someone's going to die, it's DEFINETLY going to be their favorite and there's no way that the other one's going to die. which is why I say we're paranoid. being scared they're going to die would be normal, being outright convinced is just getting to be on the paranoid side imo. meh, i'm used to disliking the female lead. i usually do. the sad fact is that I can never bring myself to quite say I hate them, but I can't love them either x.x i get annoyed at them, but i can't even quite bring myself to really say i dislike them. it's like i can't make up my mind whether i do or not lol. Dx i agree she's selfish though. very much so, actually. it's annoys me to no end. ahh, finally. someone who actually realizes that there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that's actually tragic about KanaYuu. I've come across sooo many people who are like "Kaname and Yuuki are the most tragic couple ever! next Romeo and Juliet!" wtf. just wtf. lolz, how people can think like that is beyond me. Arranged marriages, couples "destined" to be together, that isn't the least bit tragic whether it's brotherxsister or not! xDD so lol/wtf@them. I was starting to think I missed something lmao. oh, and I just went and reread my last post. wtf was wrong with me? xD;; I'd love to give some legiminate excuse. But I honestly can't think what could've been wrong with my brain that day. what the hell. T.T so yeah, I'm probably gonna go edit out the long random story that came out of nowhere and was pointless and noone cares about. i make no sense to myself. sorry, to anyone i made put up with my random going off topic and stuff. *runs off to edit post* |
Aug 27, 2009 2:04 PM
#45
| holy crap... both of you... haha... i think we should repost this topic on a new discussion thread and leave this for us old members... haha... this is chaotic... =_=ll |
Feb 6, 2010 5:12 AM
#47
| I hate him because his love to Yuuki is the only thing that makes him a character. Other than that he's just a figure behind a mask of mysteriousness. I guess that's not what the author intended, but we don't find out anything about him, not even his intentions, until half of the manga passes. His thoughts are never really presented, so even though it looks like he loves Yuuki, that annoying smile makes it look like he's plotting something. I's almost impossible to relate to him until it's revealed that he really does love Yuuki, and then he goes and takes her liberty away, locks her up and acts like she's his doll. I didn't really like Yuuki before her change either, bun now she's even more passive and worthless thanks to him. Plus, Zero hates him, so that's enough of a reason for us to hate him too, right? ^^ |
Mar 14, 2010 7:23 AM
#48
Riss said: Plus, Zero hates him, so that's enough of a reason for us to hate him too, right? ^^ This one my favorite. Yay! ;D |
May 24, 2010 5:51 AM
#49
| isn't that obvious? because he's an ass, that's why. |
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