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Jun 21, 2017 7:15 PM
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I knoooow people, I knoooooow, it's juuuuust a number. But it still pisses me off.
In this website, a BAD show gets a low 7 (in general terms). A DECENT airing anime gets a mid~high 7 (let's not count Rokudenashi on that fact).

But Sakura Quest... oh oh... Sakura Quest gets a low 7, because it totally deserves to be in the trash bin of the season, way behind shit tier shows like Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism and others, but I won't say more names because I don't wanna discuss that.

WAIT. MAYBE. JUST MAYBE, the ONLY people watching this show, which is depressingly unpopular, are people who actually know how to use the score system! I'm not kidding, this might actually be the case. For you beautiful people who are reading this: a potential congratulations from me - you are part of the 1% of the community who knows that a 7/10 means GOOD, and not AVERAGE.

OR it could be the other way around: maybe most people who are watching Sakura Quest are actually people who happen to be bored of it, so they end up giving it a 7 (for AVERAGE), or a 6 or 5 for it being "yet another dumb silly cutesy-girls-workplace slice of life show".

But I have faith in that the latter option is not the one.
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Jun 21, 2017 7:16 PM
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what is the purpose of this thread







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Jun 21, 2017 7:20 PM
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what is the purpose of this thread
For me to vent, and see if I find people who share opinions with me in order to fill my need for the acceptance of my ideas. Or to discuss this topic with someone who finds it equally as interesting.

Did that answer you?
Jun 21, 2017 7:23 PM
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Nostalgik said:
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what is the purpose of this thread
For me to vent, and see if I find people who share opinions with me in order to fill my need for the acceptance of my ideas. Or to discuss this topic with someone who finds it equally as interesting.

Did that answer you?

Why are you mad? I was genuinely curious lmfao.
To be fair people have different opinions and likes from you a decent anime for you might be bad for others and vise versa. but i do believe there are people who rate anime based only on 2/3 episodes which sucks cause it changes the overall rating of the anime.







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PO1SON said:
Nostalgik said:
For me to vent, and see if I find people who share opinions with me in order to fill my need for the acceptance of my ideas. Or to discuss this topic with someone who finds it equally as interesting.

Did that answer you?

Why are you mad? I was genuinely curious lmfao.
To be fair people have different opinions and likes from you a decent anime for you might be bad for others and vise versa. but i do believe there are people who rate anime based only on 2/3 episodes which sucks cause it changes the overall rating of the anime.
Wowowow chill, I'm in full peace here and I didn't answer in the tone of being mad. I just... you know... literally answered your question.

And fortunately, as far as I know, a user's score only affects the shows' overall score if said user completed like 1/4 of the total episodes of the anime, or something like that. I mean, that's kinda cool I guess xD
Jun 21, 2017 7:25 PM
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what is the purpose of this thread

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I can't be bothered to read that load of nonsense, so I ask the same.
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Jun 21, 2017 7:28 PM
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Nostalgik said:

And fortunately, as far as I know, a user's score only affects the shows' overall score if said user completed like 1/4 of the total episodes of the anime, or something like that. I mean, that's kinda cool I guess xD


This is why we need MAL to change some rules around here, it sucks that people rate shows without even finishing it. It's unfair to the anime especially if it gets better later on and such. But hey don't sweat it off lol a 7 isn't THAT bad.








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Jun 21, 2017 7:28 PM
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MortalMelancholy said:
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what is the purpose of this thread

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I can't be bothered to read that load of nonsense, so I ask the same.
Load of nonsense? How come it is a "load of nonsense" if you didn't even read it? It's amazing how this site is filled with people who see a topic they are not interested in discussing, but instead of just getting back to their lives like a normal human being, feel the need to comment irrelevant things like this.

This is a THREAD. A fragment of discussion in this website. If you have nothing to say about the topic I'm talking about, then don't.
Jun 21, 2017 7:29 PM
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PO1SON said:
Nostalgik said:

And fortunately, as far as I know, a user's score only affects the shows' overall score if said user completed like 1/4 of the total episodes of the anime, or something like that. I mean, that's kinda cool I guess xD


This is why we need MAL to change some rules around here, it sucks that people rate shows without even finishing it. It's unfair to the anime especially if it gets better later on and such. But hey don't sweat it off lol a 7 isn't THAT bad.

I know a 7 isn't that bad, but for this website's standards, it is (because there's that good % of people who give an 8 for bad, a 9 for ok, and 10 for good)
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Nostalgik said:
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I can't be bothered to read that load of nonsense, so I ask the same.
Load of nonsense? How come it is a "load of nonsense" if you didn't even read it? It's amazing how this site is filled with people who see a topic they are not interested in discussing, but instead of just getting back to their lives like a normal human being, feel the need to comment irrelevant things like this.

This is a THREAD. A fragment of discussion in this website. If you have nothing to say about the topic I'm talking about, then don't.

Well for one, there were no great shows in 2017. Second, mediocre-bad shows get 7s, when they deserve far less.
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MortalMelancholy said:
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Load of nonsense? How come it is a "load of nonsense" if you didn't even read it? It's amazing how this site is filled with people who see a topic they are not interested in discussing, but instead of just getting back to their lives like a normal human being, feel the need to comment irrelevant things like this.

This is a THREAD. A fragment of discussion in this website. If you have nothing to say about the topic I'm talking about, then don't.

Well for one, there were no great shows in 2017. Second, mediocre-bad shows get 7s, when they deserve far less.

I'm aware that mediocre-bad shows get 7s, but good shows, also get 7s, let the gods know why.

And, while this obviously falls unto the realm of subjectivity, I'll say some good shows: Kobayashi, KonoSuba, Sangatsu no Lion, Little Witch, Gintama (lol), Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Boku no Hero, AoT, Bahamut.....
Jun 21, 2017 7:39 PM
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tfw this has almost the same score as garbage like eromanga sensei and busou shoujo machiaviellianism :c
Jun 21, 2017 7:41 PM

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tfw this has almost the same score as garbage like eromanga sensei and busou shoujo machiavellism :c
That's exactly my point. It makes me sad as a lover of the medium that is anime to see Rokudenashi jump to 400s in popularity on the website, which is GREAT popularity for brand-new shows, and Sakura Quest in a measly 1246.
Jun 21, 2017 8:25 PM

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This show was a one episode drop for me. Glad you liked it though.
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Jun 21, 2017 8:32 PM

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This show was a one episode drop for me. Glad you liked it though.
It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but if one watched Shirobako beforehand, the hopes of either liking this show or not were clear as day from the beginning.
Jun 21, 2017 8:32 PM

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@Nostalgik I am deeply offended that you referred to me as a "his/her," I am a proud, non-binary gender neutral intersectional gay feminist so I would prefer it if you educate yourself and call me by my right pronoun "hir."
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@Nostalgik I am deeply offended that you referred to me as a "his/her," I am a proud, non-binary gender neutral intersectional gay feminist so I would prefer it if you educate yourself and call me by my right pronoun "hir."
I'm starting to like you more than I was initially anticipating
Jun 21, 2017 8:53 PM

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Bananya, a modern-day fucking masterpiece, got a 6.79. I never want to hear anyone bitch about scores for good anime again. MAL is broken.
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Jun 21, 2017 8:55 PM

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Bananya, a modern-day fucking masterpiece, got a 6.79. I never want to hear anyone bitch about scores for good anime again. MAL is broken.
Not as good as Trap-kun tho
Jun 21, 2017 8:56 PM
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I mean this shit has happened after Fall 2015... so I don't really get your complaint and bitching around about, especially specifically on Sakura Quest. You could have done this on anime discussions thread instead tbh.

And shows getting lower than a 7/10 isn't surprising to me at this point, especially when MAL as a community becomes more strict than ever but that's just me.
Jun 21, 2017 9:02 PM

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I mean this shit has happened after Fall 2015... so I don't really get your complaint and bitching around about, especially specifically on Sakura Quest. You could have done this on anime discussions thread instead tbh.

And shows getting lower than a 7/10 isn't surprising to me at this point, especially when MAL as a community becomes more strict than ever but that's just me.
"bitching around about". I love how most people love to be aggressive towards thread writer, but never mind that now. I'm doing this in Sakura Quest because it is one of the most underrated shows I've ever seen in terms of a being in a season filled with so much trash above it.

Yes, the community is more strict than ever, but still too tolerant and especially inconsistent.

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Symphyon said:
I mean this shit has happened after Fall 2015... so I don't really get your complaint and bitching around about, especially specifically on Sakura Quest. You could have done this on anime discussions thread instead tbh.

And shows getting lower than a 7/10 isn't surprising to me at this point, especially when MAL as a community becomes more strict than ever but that's just me.
"bitching around about". I love how most people love to be aggressive towards thread writer, but never mind that now:

Yes, the community is more strict than ever, but still too tolerant and especially inconsistent.


Well sorry about that but I'm kind of aggressive (and that's just a bare case mind you, also sleep deprivation) so sorry about that. Then again I was more pointing out at the complaint itself about the scores so sorry if it came out as shit.

Well any community becomes inconsistent, not only on MAL alone you know?
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"bitching around about". I love how most people love to be aggressive towards thread writer, but never mind that now:

Yes, the community is more strict than ever, but still too tolerant and especially inconsistent.


Well sorry about that but I'm kind of aggressive (and that's just a bare case mind you, also sleep deprivation) so sorry about that. Then again I was more pointing out at the complaint itself about the scores so sorry if it came out as shit.

Well any community becomes inconsistent, not only on MAL alone you know?
its ok, I suffer from that occasionally as well :)

Yeah I know...as much as I shit talk the community as a score-giver and such things, I'm just venting out at the end of the day. There's nothing that can be done and its not the end of the world for it
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Unlike many people, i consider 7 a really high score, and Sakura Quest can't suit this more. There are lots of overrated show in the top chart that i won't hesitate to give them below 5, as long as they disappoint me, in many way of course. So you don't need to be so triggered over this trivial matter, let the people rate how they want, what matter is you find something special for your own.

On a side note, while i understand what this show is trying to deliver, i cannot say its method and execution is effective, at least to me. For now i think it deserves a 6 (Decent), and if there's improvement at the finale then i might bump it to a 7, but things can always get worse so a 5, even 4 might be even possible.
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I'd say give it time and wait for it to finish. Shirobako started with a lower score iirc and it reached the top 100 when it finished airing. Assuming the show will keep on delivering and with the 1/5th rule it should go over a rating of 8 easily. So Just give it time. I'm annoyed by the score as well but oh well.
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Jun 21, 2017 10:31 PM

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Nostalgik said:
I knoooow people, I knoooooow, it's juuuuust a number. But it still pisses me off.
In this website, a BAD show gets a low 7 (in general terms). A DECENT airing anime gets a mid~high 7 (let's not count Rokudenashi on that fact).

But Sakura Quest... oh oh... Sakura Quest gets a low 7, because it totally deserves to be in the trash bin of the season, way behind shit tier shows like Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism and others, but I won't say more names because I don't wanna discuss that.

WAIT. MAYBE. JUST MAYBE, the ONLY people watching this show, which is depressingly unpopular, are people who actually know how to use the score system! I'm not kidding, this might actually be the case. For you beautiful people who are reading this: a potential congratulations from me - you are part of the 1% of the community who knows that a 7/10 means GOOD, and not AVERAGE.

OR it could be the other way around: maybe most people who are watching Sakura Quest are actually people who happen to be bored of it, so they end up giving it a 7 (for AVERAGE), or a 6 or 5 for it being "yet another dumb silly cutesy-girls-workplace slice of life show".

But I have faith in that the latter option is not the one.


.....not sure if you're insinuating that Rokudenashi was good or bad.....
Jun 21, 2017 10:43 PM

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OP you do realize you're saying Sakura Quest is great while other trash are getting better scores. Don't you think it's just a matter of different opinions also? The trash shows you're referring to may genuinely be entertaining and good for others. Also Regardless of whether sakura quest is good or not or whether it's executed well, the concept is not appealing to many I must admit. Either way, wait till it's finished so that scores of early dropped are filtered out and score rises.
Jun 21, 2017 11:07 PM

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All I see is people calling everything garbage here. Chill guys!
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Jun 22, 2017 12:47 AM

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Even as a fan of PA Works and this anime in general, I don't think this deserves more than 7.4-ish. While any SoL fan like me would be able to appreciate the good things about this anime, I can't help but still feel that its execution and directing were a bit flat. To me this anime feels like a poor man's Hanasaku Iroha. The MC Yoshino, other than feels like a cheap imitation of Miyamori, doesn't nearly have as much character strength and charm as other strong PA Works female leads. The side characters and environment are currently supporting this anime and while I don't think this deserves a 7.12 (as of this writing), I don't think the score would rise up much by the time it ends.
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How the hell is 7/10 a low score ? 7 represent "Good" and yes this show is good.

Dont be bothered by other shows like Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism they are pure cancer. Or better dont be bothered by MAL scores at all.
Jun 22, 2017 1:19 AM

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Nostalgik said:
MortalMelancholy said:

Well for one, there were no great shows in 2017. Second, mediocre-bad shows get 7s, when they deserve far less.

I'm aware that mediocre-bad shows get 7s, but good shows, also get 7s, let the gods know why.

And, while this obviously falls unto the realm of subjectivity, I'll say some good shows: Kobayashi, KonoSuba, Sangatsu no Lion, Little Witch, Gintama (lol), Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Boku no Hero, AoT, Bahamut.....

Out of those, only Little Witch and Bahamut are 2017 shows. Bahamut isn't even really 2017. as it's a sequel. Neither are good.
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MortalMelancholy said:
Nostalgik said:

I'm aware that mediocre-bad shows get 7s, but good shows, also get 7s, let the gods know why.

And, while this obviously falls unto the realm of subjectivity, I'll say some good shows: Kobayashi, KonoSuba, Sangatsu no Lion, Little Witch, Gintama (lol), Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Boku no Hero, AoT, Bahamut.....

Out of those, only Little Witch and Bahamut are 2017 shows. Bahamut isn't even really 2017. as it's a sequel. Neither are good.
No, they are all 2017 shows, unless you exclude Sangatsu which I was only reffering to its 2nd cour
Jun 22, 2017 4:33 AM

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This show is garbage, deal with it. I couldn't even get past one minute of this shit. Delete this thread now, you're only embarrassing yourself.


Is someone who's top is all Love Live, and who rated Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism a 10 allowed to even have the right to criticize anything at all?
ahahahah you definitely have a strong argument there. I didnt even notice that guy's profile. I must admit a top tier troll
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This show is garbage, deal with it. I couldn't even get past one minute of this shit. Delete this thread now, you're only embarrassing yourself.


Is someone who's top is all Love Live, and who rated Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism a 10 allowed to even have the right to criticize anything at all?
ahahah very good observation there actually. Although don't be too bothered by that person's profile, I'd say that HIR is a top quality troll honestly xD

And I was reffering to Rokudenashi being bad yes
Jun 22, 2017 4:36 AM

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Unlike many people, i consider 7 a really high score, and Sakura Quest can't suit this more. There are lots of overrated show in the top chart that i won't hesitate to give them below 5, as long as they disappoint me, in many way of course. So you don't need to be so triggered over this trivial matter, let the people rate how they want, what matter is you find something special for your own.

On a side note, while i understand what this show is trying to deliver, i cannot say its method and execution is effective, at least to me. For now i think it deserves a 6 (Decent), and if there's improvement at the finale then i might bump it to a 7, but things can always get worse so a 5, even 4 might be even possible.
Same, I'm giving way too many scored below 4 this season for my taste xD

I'm in the same boat as you, my score jumps from 6 to 7 and 7 to 6 every damn week. Ofc I see the inconsistency of the show
Jun 22, 2017 4:37 AM
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Maybe it isn't such a great show after all in the eyes of the general audience?

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Jun 22, 2017 4:38 AM

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I'd say give it time and wait for it to finish. Shirobako started with a lower score iirc and it reached the top 100 when it finished airing. Assuming the show will keep on delivering and with the 1/5th rule it should go over a rating of 8 easily. So Just give it time. I'm annoyed by the score as well but oh well.
I've personally never seen a show going from a low 7 going above an 8, but I didnt watch Shirobako as it was airing so I wouldn't know. Ty for the reply :) we'll see
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Maybe it isn't such a great show after all in the eyes of the general audience?

Shocking, I know
I'd say an audience that thinks this is on equal footing with Eromanga needs some psychological treatment, but hey that's just my opinion.
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Maybe it isn't such a great show after all in the eyes of the general audience?

Shocking, I know
I'd say an audience that thinks this is on equal footing with Eromanga needs some psychological treatment, but hey that's just my opinion.
Well that depends entirely on your preferences as always, and watching an anime when you're not part of its target demographic is never a good idea
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I'd say an audience that thinks this is on equal footing with Eromanga needs some psychological treatment, but hey that's just my opinion.
Well that depends entirely on your preferences as always, and watching an anime when you're not part of its target demographic is never a good idea
Well I'm sorry I like me some magical girl shows from time to time ok?
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Well that depends entirely on your preferences as always, and watching an anime when you're not part of its target demographic is never a good idea
Well I'm sorry I like me some magical girl shows from time to time ok?
Sounds totally fine to me
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I'd say give it time and wait for it to finish. Shirobako started with a lower score iirc and it reached the top 100 when it finished airing. Assuming the show will keep on delivering and with the 1/5th rule it should go over a rating of 8 easily. So Just give it time. I'm annoyed by the score as well but oh well.


Pretty much this.
I'd assume that most of the people who follow this show would give their score at the end, like Shirobako. Seeing that most of the comments in the episode threads are generally positive, it's likely that the score would rise to 8 later on.
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7 is a good score. Sakura Guest is an ''okay'' anime. The score for it is perfectly fine.


But I mean... I don't trust the scores on MAL that much, since the masterpiece Noragami got only a 8.17
Help the industry and buy Blu-rays and DVD's.
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>complains about low scores
>has only 10 10s in 1333 anime entries

dk if this is bait or the rope is calling u to kys
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I think you're completely right. I didnt read all the other comments but im sure they're some good points in there as well. What anime we like is all subjective (for the most part) so i hate it when people say things like "there's no point to this tread" or "this anime sucks." Again people can think whatever they want, but there are are other ways to voice an opposing opinion.

Its not necessarily a bad thing, im guilty of it too: changing my score due to the finale (or judging from only a couple really enjoyable episodes). For example the first 95% of an anime could of been riddled with pacing issues, boring story, transparent characters etc but all i would remember/ score it on would be the last episode, because the fight scene was epic :P

Anyways, 7 is a good score, but i think Sakura Quest deserves to be in the mid 70s especially when you compare it to other anime this season (like you said).

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>complains about low scores
>has only 10 10s in 1333 anime entries

dk if this is bait or the rope is calling u to kys
Lol since when am I supposed to give 10s as if they meant anything other than "masterpiece"? And I'm reffering to MAL's standards, filled with people who think a 7 is average
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I think you're completely right. I didnt read all the other comments but im sure they're some good points in there as well. What anime we like is all subjective (for the most part) so i hate it when people say things like "there's no point to this tread" or "this anime sucks." Again people can think whatever they want, but there are are other ways to voice an opposing opinion.

Its not necessarily a bad thing, im guilty of it too: changing my score due to the finale (or judging from only a couple really enjoyable episodes). For example the first 95% of an anime could of been riddled with pacing issues, boring story, transparent characters etc but all i would remember/ score it on would be the last episode, because the fight scene was epic :P

Anyways, 7 is a good score, but i think Sakura Quest deserves to be in the mid 70s especially when you compare it to other anime this season (like you said).

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TY for the sincere reply and for being open-minded. And dont worry, it is kinda hard to have everything in consideration in a score after watching an airing show for half a year xD
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The show isn't bad but it's a tad bit boring for a lot of people tastes, even though you wouldn't technically call eromanga sensei or busou shoujo objectively good shows they provide exactly what the viewers want and that's entertainment. I'd probably score a not so good anime but enjoyed it throughout the whole duration higher than an anime that isn't bad but doesn't provide me the entertainment I need
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Nostalgik said:
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>complains about low scores
>has only 10 10s in 1333 anime entries

dk if this is bait or the rope is calling u to kys
Lol since when am I supposed to give 10s as if they meant anything other than "masterpiece"? And I'm reffering to MAL's standards, filled with people who think a 7 is average

7 is average idk what drugs u take but let me have some too

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Lol since when am I supposed to give 10s as if they meant anything other than "masterpiece"? And I'm reffering to MAL's standards, filled with people who think a 7 is average

7 is average idk what drugs u take but let me have some too

7 is average? Amazing, not even you can read what MAL writes next to its scores, made for especially dumb people.
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