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| I have positive opinions about this, at least is in charge of a good studio and director, animation is pretty good, voices are pleasant, at the end there are no radical changes |
| Oh wow the background looked so wonderful! I love Yuuki Aoi, but I still prefer the original Kino's seiyuu For Hermes, hardly change.. I guess Saitou Soma did a good job "imitating" xD "That traveler" said 3 days is the perfect length Oh no, I'm going to cry again soon :( Next ep, colosseum Can't wait for that episode! The original one have a special spot in my heart! |
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Mouloxas said: Vhailor said: I would have preferred if they didn't bombard us right off the bat with a rambling exposition describing Kino and her motivation. Not ideal, but it's necessary to make this accessible to new viewers as well. While not entirely acceptable, it would have at least made some sense if this were a sequel, but this is a reboot. The audience were new to the first series too, but it didn't feel the need to insult the audiences intelligence by dumping exposition right at the beginning of the first episode. It instead took its time to let them slowly learn about Kino over the course of the series. |
| I thought it was pretty darn interesting never seen the original yet so i can't speak to the quality of this compared to it, but was the subject matter of this episode par of the course with the old one? also talking bike ??? fine if kino is the only that hears it but seeing everyone react to it left me confused i'd say the only thing i felt effy about is the ending it was little too on the nose dunno if that was just to make it easier to understand for others |
katsu044Oct 6, 2017 9:26 PM
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| Kino Hermes ahhhh π So happy they are back. |
SkyDrop said: but preferably watch the original as well to get a bit of background on kinokoplakever said: is the story gonna be different from the original one? If so I might have to watch the original first now No. You can watch this without having watch the original. Both tells the same story in different style. |
| the character is ... too moe. The dialogue is... too cringy. 7/10 |
| 4th times getting signature banned wtf |
| The motorrad talking really puts me off |
kyoudai said: It's either male or female. There's no such things as "non-binary gender" and you're making stuff up. Kino is a girl but wears masculine clothing just to be safer during travels. It's nothing uncommon in anime for a girl to use masculine pronouns to appear tougher or to hide her sex. If someone is confused it's good to watch the original where there are episodes delving into her past. allenjke said: Did Hermes call Kino a guy, was it figure of speech or mistranslation, didn't hear it correctly and don't know if my small knowledge could've helped. It was a mistranslation. Kino is of non-binary gender. (Refer to 25 Great LGBT Anime Characters: Beyond Boys Love, which provides further background on Kino. Kino is 10th on the list.) It should hopefully become clearer in the coming episodes that Kino considers themself simply "Kino", neither "he" nor "she". |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| Might think this will be my favorite of the season~ What a great episode~ |
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| Awesome. Kino fans at last satisfied. Not too sure about the voice actor(s), Kino seems more feminine here, rather than tomboyish, but I will have to gulp that down. I almost forgot how awesome this chapter was. |
| Do not let yourself be blinded by fear or anger. Everything is only as it is. |
Antanaru said: kyoudai said: It's either male or female. There's no such things as "non-binary gender" and you're making stuff up. Kino is a girl but wears masculine clothing just to be safer during travels. It's nothing uncommon in anime for a girl to use masculine pronouns to appear tougher or to hide her sex. If someone is confused it's good to watch the original where there are episodes delving into her past. It was a mistranslation. Kino is of non-binary gender. (Refer to 25 Great LGBT Anime Characters: Beyond Boys Love, which provides further background on Kino. Kino is 10th on the list.) It should hopefully become clearer in the coming episodes that Kino considers themself simply "Kino", neither "he" nor "she". This is partially my own take, but at least from a thematic point of view, Also, now that I had a chance to read through the thread, I find it surprising that Hermes speaking is the oddest thing about the episode. I'm quite sure a talking motorcycle isn't the strangest thing to have come out of anime, but in the context of the show, I suppose it does somewhat come out of left field. To be fair, I always imaged Hermes to exist as Kino's Jiminy Cricket - a figment of Kino's imagination that serves as an idea board to bounce ponderings at. But yeah, Hermes is a sentient character, and that's really all there is to it. I'm glad that Hermes wasn't given too much attention to in the episode by the way, as again, it would have been distracting. johnyjohny said: Does someone know if this episode picks up where the anime series from 2003 left off ? Btw jesus christ, that is like 13 years ago O.o Technically there was the film from Shaft in 2007, but it's really different from the original series, as is this current adaptation. But yeah, the series is episodic, so there's no real place this current adaptation picks up. Enjoy the ride~ IchiroEX said: Preview trailer for the next episode. I wonder if this will be a 2 part episode like last time. π€ I'm...not excited for this. I really wish the anime could slow down with more thoughtful stories, rather than rushing with blood and violence right out the gate. But, that's just me trying to make the series as I want it, and I have no idea how the current market would receive something slow and melancholic. Still, I wonder why we're getting two violent stories in a row... |
ShockedOct 7, 2017 2:51 AM
| Any idea how many episodes will it have? |
| I was actually quite shocked of how much i enjoyed this, while i didn't like how they told how Kino was as a person right away instead of us learning that throughout the series i did really think the country for this episode was great with a good twist even though it was very obvious but it did really give out that life lesson that the original always did. This one doesn't really give out as much atmosphere as the original imo but it def wasn't bad |
ZaFsiiOct 7, 2017 3:26 AM
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| That was such a bullshit twist I had to laugh a little bit. Hope the next episode is not like that, because this was otherwise pretty OK. |
| I liked the first episode well enough and definitely consider it a pleasant surprise, though that may very well be due to the strength of the source material more than anything. Anyway, apart from the presentation, it doesn't feel like much has changed from the first series (and as one of the few people who doesn't love the original art style, I don't have a problem with the new look). As for the thematics, as always, this episode clearly works best on an allegorical level, commenting on the difficulty of reaching a true understanding of a different country without actually visiting it and talking to its people, and how dangerously easy it is to completely misperceive its culture from mere hearsay. However, I'm not so sure about the commentary on extrajudicial punishment and gun culture, so I thought the concept of the Land of Permitted Murder itself was a bit questionable when taken too literally (even if that might sound like a contradiction to what I just said about understanding different cultures). Oh well, I can't say it was uninteresting, and it might even get people talking about real world issues. |
Prezbo-samaOct 7, 2017 6:45 AM
Mouloxas said: Vhailor said: While not entirely acceptable, it would have at least made some sense if this were a sequel, but this is a reboot. The audience were new to the first series too, but it didn't feel the need to insult the audiences intelligence by dumping exposition right at the beginning of the first episode. It instead took its time to let them slowly learn about Kino over the course of the series. Yeah, but will we get Kino's backstory or the meeting with her master (that was an OVA, but still) or the episode with Sakura in this reboot? I think they will have 3 stories that were in the original as well, with the first being the coliseum. If the other 2 are the episodes i've mentioned, then they could have avoided the exposition dumb and be A-ok. If not, what we got more or less had to be done. Kaze_Kitsune said: Also, why the decision to make Kino a male? Not that it matters a whole lot, it just seems like an arbitrary thing. WHAT? No such thing was stated. The one issue they handled perfectly is how Kino's gender is completely irrelevant, no one even mentioned it... When the old man offers Kino dessert, Hermes says, "he already finished one", or something to that effect. Unless it was mistranslated in the subs. |
| Oh dear. The villagers don't play. xD I loved how this episode went. A place that seemingly sounded so dangerous yet in actuality is very safe since the people truly care about each other enough to band together and rid the type of conflict. This actually made me smile. :) I am also liking how the atmosphere is in here so far, and I do like Kino very much already. Him and his talking motorrad. I think this will be one of my top three. |
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| I haven't seen the previous series yet but I thoroughly enjoyed this. Story seems very interesting and the animation/ sound was good. I plan on going back and watching the original. I'll be sticking with this one. |
| I liked it! I think it holds up pretty well to the original. Just one episode out for now so I can't really judge it yet but I'm getting the same great feeling as I did with the original. The atmosphere was there. I think it will take a while for me to be able to adapt to the new art style as well as Hermes new deep voice, haha. The only things I didn't like about this was that it lacked amazing opening and ending songs which the original had, as well as... well, CGI Hermes. |
It's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. |
| A bit nostalgic feeling. I don't agree with the law, but I can see myself live in such a country, and what they do wouldn't exactly bother me persay. I do wonder about the ethics of it all, there's a slight sadism to it that cannot be denied, they could of just head shotted him, but instead they gave him slight torture and speech before it. It can't be argued that it is just to deter others because if he was allowed to leave people would know you could survive, as just killing him outright would serve the same purpose. I feel like there's a bit of fun and psychopathic tendencies in the delivered justice, which is arguably fine but still. I'm guessing his story about Segel was also a bit misinformed, or Segel like the man in the end was from a place where terrorism and bandits were good on some Luffy from One Piece type of deal because people in charge were that bad. Otherwise talking about "wrong" would be a bit funny for Segel to do. |
| Jaywalker. |
| I probably shouldn't watch this cos Sigsawa, but I usually don't care so anyway... Fairly interesting for a newcomer, dialogue was good. Conversely not really flabbergastingly good. Looks like it'll be consistently decent-but-not-great every episode. Yuuki's breathing sounds are a bit annoying. |
| I'm not going to watch the rest of this series. The original series being far and above better than this one on nearly every count, I don't want to spoil the dear memories of the masterpiece I watched in my late teenage years. A bit like Blade Runner 2049, except that this one is a good sequel :D |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| The entire city being up in arms was almost comedic, but otherwise it was fine. Not the most interesting of countries. Still really don't agree with the colors. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| Surprisingly it was pretty decent first episode, the starting monologue was really boring. However I have to say dislike the way the first country was portrayed, giving firearms to any idiot and allow them to use as they see fit wouldnt result a society like that....Just take a look at RL, easier access to firearms = more crime and murder |
| Wow, now that's ironically topical :/ Never got around to watch the 2003 version, really liking this one so far. |
| Pretty good! Not 100% sold on everything yet, but then again I love OG Kino's Journey, and I wasn't sold after the first episode of that either. One thing I'm really going to miss is the song "He is speed, and I am balance". Also, I still need to get used to the new art style. Like yes it looks more like the art from the LNs, and the quality of the animation is better, but I really loved the art direction OG Kino's Journey. For an example, just go back and compare the gun drawing scenes from the old show to this one - they're WAY more badass. They did still manage to have those creepy facial expressions though (like the store owner with the gun) which I loved. Based on her explanation of why she stays in each country three days, we know a certain episode is going to be remade, and I'm super excited for it. 4/5 for this ep, let's see where it goes from here |
| ~ The world is not beautiful, therefore it is. |
| I prefer the 2003 version over this first episode, despite the bright colors and nice overall work. Storytelling don't flow as well, and explanation of Kino's motives feel forced, plus the story felt too dramatic and not as poetic as before. Well, it might just be my nostalgia kicking in, but I'm out. |
allenjke said: Don't know anything about old work, but started reading the new version and it was quite good. Decent start and this story wasn't in the new manga so was pretty interesting. Did Hermes call Kino a guy, was it figure of speech or mistranslation, didn't hear it correctly and don't know if my small knowledge could've helped. I was wondering the same thing, did you end up finding out? |
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| This episode was amazing. The animation was beautiful and the way that the 2D and CG animation flowed was great. The sound effect of the gun moving was incredible. If the story they used in the episode seemed a bit familiar, here is why. The two travelers and the farmer (A parable) A man who was traveling came upon a farmer working in his field and asked him what the people in the next village were like. The farmer asked "What were the people like in the last village you visited?" The man responded "They were kind, friendly, generous, great people." "You'll find the people in the next village are the same," said the farmer. Another man who was traveling to the same village came up to the same farmer somewhat later and asked him what the people in the next village were like. Again the farmer asked "What were the people like in the last village you visited?" The second man responded, "They were rude, unfriendly, dishonest people." "You'll find the people in the next village are the same," said the farmer. |
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| Same kind of stuff as the original, and that's nice to see. There is no crime when granny is packin' heat. |
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| that was great it managed to preserve the feel of the old series perfectly |
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Little_Nai said: Sigsawa have said in a interview with ANN: "Kino really doesn't think of herself too deeply when she uses pronouns. Depending on the circumstances, she may use "boku" or "atashi", it kinda depends on the situation she finds herself in. In the first story, Kino always referred to herself as "boku", because it was meant to be like a little secret. At the end of the story, it was treated as a reveal to surprise the readers, because they had probably assumed someone using "boku" was a guy. So it was more of a trick at the beginning. It's not that I wanted to write a story about a girl who lives like a boy directly, it was just an interesting way to start the story, and her character's personality has continued that way since then." http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-09-11/interview-keiichi-sigsawa/.121076 Thanks for providing that quote. I hadn't read that, and it does shed some light on the issue. Authors have the final say on anything they have written, so if Sigsawa-sensei says Kino is female, then female it is -- though I have to wonder whether he was commenting on Kino's sex, gender, or both. That's a good way to think of it, and I pretty much agree. It's less that Kino is "actively" non-binary but sees gender as a non-issue personally, fundamentally unimportant to self identity: simply Kino -- whatever "Kino" implies and entails. In that regard, Kino is at the very least asexual (not so uncommon in anime outside of romcom's). It may be better to say Kino is "non-gendered" than to say "non-binary gender"; i.e., Kino has no gender at all, instead of a gender that is neither male nor female. Physiologically/genetically, sure, Kino is female (we can only assume, anyway), but as a whole, Kino is perhaps without gender at all, merely the representation of an archetype -- not meant to be a full character, but as a stand-in for self-inserts, as you've said. A cardboard cutout placeholder, so to speak. And I'd still assert that it's a bad translation. At the very least, it should be translated "she" since Kino is physiologically female, but ideally Hermes' line would have been translated as "my partner" or "my friend here" instead of "he". As you said, it points out just how deficient English is in this area when compared to Japanese. That said though, Japanese language does express gender in different ways that English leaves neutral, such as different first-person words for self ("atashi" vs "ore"), how females use "o-" before some words that males do not (like meat, "oniku" vs "niku"), words and sentence ending particles like "kashira", "wa", and "zo" having gendered connotations, etc. |
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| WHAT A NICE LITTLE TOWN THAT WAS. Really played with my expectations for a bit there, but the title does say "The Beautiful World", and in a way, that was an understatement when describing that country. I would totally enjoy living there. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
| So, Kino's Journey -The Beautiful World- The Animation The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles is finally here. I'm really glad to see Kino again even if the moody atmosphere, the earthy colours, the unique animation style, and those beautiful TV lines are all MIA. The character interactions aren't quite as engaging and the backdrops are a bit more run of the mill, but the first episode still had the soul of the original work which is the most important part. I'll say straight up that I strongly believe at this point the 2003 series is better. But I understand replicating that when the original director is dead and the original studio is bankrupt... well it'd be a bit hard now wouldn't it? It's a decent adaptation nonetheless and a good opportunity to adapt stories that the original never told. Next episode is covering the Colosseum arc that was in the 2003 series, so comparing the two is definitely going to be interesting. |
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| This show has a strongly allegorical feel to it. The ending mirrors the beginning with Kino running into two men seeking out the same country for different reasons. Not to mention the talking motorcycle; no one questioning things that normally don't talk tends to be a staple of allegories. I like it, very artistic and thought provoking. |
| it was a bit cool...still following this... that small country was savage! 4/5. |
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