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"Deca-Dence is wild y'all don't even know, All clowns who called it Titans ripoff are gonna get owned so hard and I can't wait to witness it" - said by one of the SakugaBlog member

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Jul 14, 2020 6:06 PM
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some insider leak from the sakuga community on what to look out for in the future episodes

https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1282794136370925575
Jul 14, 2020 10:34 PM
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so what if it takes inspiration from titan? it takes inspiration from a lot of things. everything does. it's an original series from a modern studio, people should give it a chance instead of dumping on it because it reminds them of other things. it also reminds me of mad max, last exile, tanya (because of the fighting and the key animators) and gurren lagann. these are GOOD SIGNS.

such a weird thing to drop an anime series for. i think the first episode showed a lot of promise. i wish it nothing but success.
Jul 14, 2020 10:55 PM
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I'm just here for Linmei tbh so I'm fine whether it's a ripoff or not so long as she gets more screentime later




this is girl of the season

Jul 14, 2020 11:03 PM
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Manaban said:
I'm just here for Linmei tbh


hell ye she is sexy and i find her tsundere so she will warm up later on lol
Jul 14, 2020 11:06 PM
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Manaban said:
I'm just here for Linmei tbh


hell ye she is sexy and i find her tsundere so she will warm up later on lol

nah man she gotta stay full hatesink bully :(

all tsun no dere

Jul 15, 2020 8:08 AM
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Episode 2 just proved this is very much not a AoT ripoff
Jul 15, 2020 8:27 AM
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Manaban said:
I'm just here for Linmei tbh so I'm fine whether it's a ripoff or not so long as she gets more screentime later

Hell yeah, the best waifu this season. Still waiting for her doujins.
Jul 15, 2020 8:45 AM
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Episode 2 just proved this is very much not a AoT ripoff


lol yep wtf its funny that they just drop that plot twist on the 2nd episode
Jul 15, 2020 10:08 AM
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Yeah its hard to beleive that such talented staff would rip off another series and make a mediocre adaption out of it.
Jul 15, 2020 10:16 AM

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Aside from the premise, I didn't get Attack on Titan vibes at all from the 1st episode of the show.

The only similarity was the post-apocalyptic premise, but that's been done a ton of times before in anime long before AoT came along. Attack on Titan just happens to be at the forefront of the anime fandoms consciousness right now.

If anything, the animation, art and setting reminded me more of Darling in the Franxx.
Jul 15, 2020 11:23 AM
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Dukino said:
Episode 2 just proved this is very much not a AoT ripoff


People who thought this was an AoT ripoff haven't watched much anime or read much manga at all to begin with. Lots of similar stories out there predate AoT by some decades.
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Jul 15, 2020 11:26 AM
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I am somewhat guilty of this myself, I can't deny the fact that I saw many similarities with AoT on the first ep, and even if by now the similarities between the two are completely out of the equation, i personally don't think it's bad to take ideas from other places; it's like someone once said: Your belonging is not something given or something that comes from nothing, but a result of a successful appropriation
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If anything, the animation, art and setting reminded me more of Darling in the Franxx.


So far, I don't expect the coupling power up aspect. Not that was wrong.
Jul 15, 2020 12:34 PM

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I guess now someone will call it a reverse Digimon rip off or SAO rip off, or something like that...because brand recognition is more important than idea recognition.
Jul 15, 2020 1:16 PM
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Its a mixture of Mortal Engines+ AOT + Howls Moving Castle. Overall I liked the first epi
Jul 15, 2020 2:01 PM

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Folks are far too much obsessed with Titans, team of main characters standing against humongous monsters is not that rare in anime. If I were to look for similar titles, then it'd be of Darling in the Franxx huge mobile fortress, equally big monsters, a faction leeching energy, aliens. Story wise I'd say it's also a spin on .hack and sao but in reverse where the software is using the real world as means of entertainment,
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The first episode reminded me of Koukaku no Regios actually. A very old anime most people here won't even know. And I didn't think of AoT at all.
Second episode thought was very different and I'm now hooked. Eager to see how it will develop.
Jul 15, 2020 8:13 PM
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This is definitely not an AOT ripoff, if you guys still say it then AOT is a EVA ripoff and so any new post apocalyptic anime is a ripoff? This is also not a SAO ripoff, there are no full dive things like that. The aliens are like playing a game using a console for example PlayStation or Xbox. If you still insist that this is a SAO ripoff then new video game anime are ripoffs?. The closest similarity I could think off is Darling in the Franxxx.
Jul 15, 2020 11:47 PM

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Ah yes, I knew someone is gonna start roasting the haters from episode 1...
Jul 16, 2020 10:01 AM
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I honestly see almost none of AoT in this....if anything this is more like Darling in the Franxx....hell, I'd say it has more in common with fucking Children of the Whales than AoT. Having it be a "mankinds last stronghold against mysterious beasts" type of plot fors not make it AoT....there are so many shows in every medium that have that type of premise....just stupid....Kaberneri was more of an AoT ripoff than this, and even that got cut some slack....
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Manaban said:
I'm just here for Linmei tbh so I'm fine whether it's a ripoff or not so long as she gets more screentime later




this is girl of the season


My question is why she was hyped about being a butcher....especially seeing her character later on, I don't get why that's exciting to her lol.
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Jul 16, 2020 12:26 PM
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My question is why she was hyped about being a butcher....especially seeing her character later on, I don't get why that's exciting to her lol.

Well, the short, in-universe explanation is probably that it's a pretty decent or even high-end job for one of the people living in the thing, seeing how she wasn't only excited, but when that happened people weren't at all surprised that she accomplished that. It'd imply she was a well performing student and got a good career out of that.

We the audience probably see it as a shitty job, but they live in an impoverished human zoo inside of an entertainment resort and are none the wiser. So butchering and demolishing the remains of the animal creature things the guests at the resort hunted is probably a pretty nice station to be in, even if they're not aware they're in a resort. They're the ones going to the surface and being around all of that instead of scraping shit off of the side of the giant construct.

Following that up with showing her bullying far less relevant and great MC girl in a very hatesink-y, stuck up way, surrounded by her lackeys, was probably to establish her as a villain that was supposed to be easy to root against. Mean to poor old MC girl, oh noes :(

Then ya get your good 'ol THE SYSTEM in episode 2, which seems like a pretty focal point to the whole series thematically, where the alien robot things live in the network of a system that demands pretty extreme obedience and treats then as replaceable/disposable, and then MC robot dude sees MC girl as existing outside of the "system" in terms of her being recognized as "dead" and such - further reinforced by her wanting to be a soldier, which was established as something that the humans pretty much never got to do.

This is prolly relevant to Linmei working hard within the established system (sure, she's unaware of the system like the rest of the humans, but she did better by it than most) and they're probably going to contrast that with MC girl somehow. I'd wager it was some kind of setup for something like that down the line, Linmei = representation of somebody working a dead end shit job that they think is great because of a system that they're largely ignorant about even existing, MC girl = OMG NOT SYSTEM HA HA. She's a hatesink alpha girl bully working in a capacity that's great for people who do exactly what the alien robot things want the humans to do and what's expected of them. They're probably going to use that to contrast her unfavorably to the MC girl later on. That's likely the thematic point of it.

Not like it's meaningful or anything and I worry I made it sound like it's a lot deeper than it is, but y'know, I've been thinking about muh girl Linmei a lot man. This is girl of the season. Forget the show itself. I'm here for Linmei.
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Jul 16, 2020 11:14 PM

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Second episode actually made me see the similitude to Attack on Titan in a sense that there's another world outside Natsume's world.
Jul 17, 2020 1:21 AM
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
Manaban said:
I'm just here for Linmei tbh so I'm fine whether it's a ripoff or not so long as she gets more screentime later




this is girl of the season

My question is why she was hyped about being a butcher....especially seeing her character later on, I don't get why that's exciting to her lol.

I can only guess there is still a lot of things about how does this world works that we still don't know... For example, do every human that born in this world happen to be a "controled avatar"? if the "players" live for centuries, do they spent a whole life in the same human? do humans exist by they self and the players just take control of them at fights?

With all that questions in the air we can't say if Linmei, as a human, wants to be a butcher, or if it is a player that wants it.

I any case, I will assume it is a very well paid job, so she can have a good life (as a human) or buy enough oxi-whatever to live for some more centuries..
Jul 17, 2020 4:47 PM

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No one said that it was an AoT rip-off, but that it was similar. Funny thing is that people assumed that people were thinking it was a rip-off when they weren't, but now some are calling it a rip-off because of that... Confusing right? Human psyche is weird.
Oh gathered this from MAL episode 1 discussion thread, since OP is posting a source too lol
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This is my first time reading that people were comparing it AoT. I don't really see the similarities? It's not as dark or as good as AoT tbh.
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This is my first time reading that people were comparing it AoT. I don't really see the similarities? It's not as dark or as good as AoT tbh.


there s just two guys who said that without even watching the first episode and then the whole deca dence fan base made a big deal about this.
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I can only guess there is still a lot of things about how does this world works that we still don't know... For example, do every human that born in this world happen to be a "controled avatar"? if the "players" live for centuries, do they spent a whole life in the same human? do humans exist by they self and the players just take control of them at fights?

With all that questions in the air we can't say if Linmei, as a human, wants to be a butcher, or if it is a player that wants it.

I any case, I will assume it is a very well paid job, so she can have a good life (as a human) or buy enough oxi-whatever to live for some more centuries..


No, not all the "humans" are controlled avatars - only the Gears, who fight the Gadoll, are. As episode 2 mentions, the Tankers are real humans, "an endangered species". However, even the real humans have chips implanted in them by the Solid Quake corporation (apparently), seemingly to control them. The one exception is Natsume, putting her in a unique position to potentially change the status quo.
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PurpleMario said:

I can only guess there is still a lot of things about how does this world works that we still don't know... For example, do every human that born in this world happen to be a "controled avatar"? if the "players" live for centuries, do they spent a whole life in the same human? do humans exist by they self and the players just take control of them at fights?

With all that questions in the air we can't say if Linmei, as a human, wants to be a butcher, or if it is a player that wants it.

I any case, I will assume it is a very well paid job, so she can have a good life (as a human) or buy enough oxi-whatever to live for some more centuries..


No, not all the "humans" are controlled avatars - only the Gears, who fight the Gadoll, are. As episode 2 mentions, the Tankers are real humans, "an endangered species". However, even the real humans have chips implanted in them by the Solid Quake corporation (apparently), seemingly to control them. The one exception is Natsume, putting her in a unique position to potentially change the status quo.

I guess I expressed bad, but I missed a few things while watching it so thanks for the explanation anyway. But the fact that every human has a chip makes possible that actually everyone is, at least potentially, a controlable avatar. Natsume appeared as "deceased", so I think she has (or had) a chip, otherwise, she wouldn't be registered at all. And the way Kaburagi talked to her makes me think that any common "person" should be concious about the whole avatars thing. So maybe, at some age, everyone starts being controlled, and as for Natsume being "dead" she just wasn't considered, making her the only real-concious human in "the world"...

Ok, maybe I'm overthinking it, but that would be something.... something.... aagh..

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