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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 80+ pages wow. This was a decent conclusion imo. I wonder if anyone is ever truly forgiven in this series though as everyone did a bit of wrong. But in a way, it got the point of the Hepatica across so.... This was overall much more violent I had expected it to be though in terms of content. |
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| This was the edgiest manga I've ever read. |
| That was mental yet so sad. Im sad the MC and her sis didn't survive but I guess it was expected. And yh 80 pages was a surprise some mangas tend to stick with the same amount of pages nd give you a shit & rushed ending. Great read. Glad she got payback against them all in the end. Always wanted a manga where the MC gets pushed so far and they just flip. no pussy fiends saying "dont do it you're better than this" They never really get down to it. But this delivered. Great read. |
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| Well, the revenge scenes in the earlier chapters were satisfying. I hate manga or anime where the bullied victim is so goody-two-shoes that feel he or she comes from a moral education textbook. But at the end, it was sad that the sister did not survive. And Haruka died in the snow somewhere. And yeah, that psycho photographer. WTF? So it turned out that he was partly responsible for the sister's death? I mean, he took his own sweet time taking photographs while father and daughter were burning to death! If he had rescued them earlier, then both father and sister might still be alive! Okay, maybe it was already too late for the father by then, but the sister most probably wouldn't be in such a bad condition if she had been brought out of the fire earlier! I feel so bad for the little sister. If only that psycho photographer had pulled her out earlier instead of wasting time to indulge in his sick hobby... :( |
LordU said: This was the edgiest manga I've ever read. /\ pretty much Man, even if every single character except for Nozaki was an EdgeLord3000, this was such a blast to read. I'm not a fan of revenge stories, but this one was a pleasant exception. |
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rick1-2 said: Basically, are Haruka and Shoko's deaths confirmed in any way at the end of the story? After all haruka had done in this story, you would say that it's more likely she died than lived. But it's not 100% confirmed. As for her sister, she died too. When they were fighting in the hospital she flatlined I believe. She was taken away in an ambulance. |
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rick1-2 said: We don't see or hear about Shouko being taken away in an ambulance or her flatlining while Haruka and Rumi fought in her hospital room. I definitely don't remember her being taken away in an ambulance, only the grandfather being taken in from the ambulance due to his critical injuries. In fact, Aiba told Haruka that she should see Shouko, meaning that she (Shouko) is still in the town hospital. I don't think she was taken away from the town hospital, she was still in her room the last time we see her. open to interpretation endings like this are kinda annoying but you can have good discussion around what is more likely and what is not at least lel. when shouko sits up in the end of previous chapter we don't hear any beeping. the beeps shown on page 8 are pretty intense and start happening right after rumi starts screaming some pretty intense stuff. maybe the beeps are normal and she is alive, or maybe the beeps are high heart rate or something and she could die from the shock of what she just heard, who knows. i think it's more likely that she lived now that i re-read. yeah, you are right, the van wasn't for shouko, i realise now that the van was most likely her grandpa being taken out, not someone being put in the van. as for what aiba said, i think at that stage he would say whatever the heck he could to get haruka to leave and not find out he did it, truth or not. so in conclusion, shouko likely lived, but i still think haruka probably died given what kind of story this is. the people who did nothing survived (grandpa and sis) and the people who did bad things died. seems fitting to me. |
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| I hated the characters and found the whole thing to be dreadful but that's exactly how it's supposed to be. Good job on building the atmosphere, mangaka-san! It's too bad that Haruka didn't survive her injuries especially after pulling out that knife out of her gut like that. Finding out about what exactly happened when her house burned down, losing his sister, having her gramps assaulted, and discovering that the nutter that was obsessed with her took the time to take pictures of her dying family until both of them turned into beef jerky before helping's simply too much for her to handle. At least she doesn't have to deal with that shit anymore. Wish spring would've arrived sooner. |
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rick1-2 said: Basically, are Haruka and Shoko's deaths confirmed in any way at the end of the story? Are the two sisters still alive? I'm a bit confused Hope to hear someone answer my questions. Am I too late to this thread? Haha. Well, as Mihairu has said 2 years ago, it's an open interpretation ending -but no so much imo. If you really pay attention to the last chapter you can clearly see that they both die. Haruka for stab wounds and Shoko for her condition and shock altogether and the proof is that her grandfather is shown alone taking the train. I mean, why would he leave the town without the girls by his side? He isn't the kind of person that would do that, so I think that with little, the mangaka showed lot. This manga wants to be realistic in a way, so I don't think the last scene was though at random. ''Spring's finally here'' (or something like that, I don't remember the exact words, sorry) is also telling that ''life goes on and everything will/can get better'' in spite of the ''cold winter'' and ''adversities''. It's a reeaally intense and cruel ending, it gave me goosebumps and made me feel really demoralized but the important thing is that everything ENDED. For bad or good, it ended and you have to deal with it now. Of course I can't blame anybody for the confusion (I also had to get it through all again in the last chapter cause I was getting that everyone died and then Haruka appears, like wtf? O_o) but with all the clues you can tell what really happened. At least that's what I think about :) All in all, this manga was really intense for me and kind of a torture. There was a moment that bullying was so hard that I couldn't keep reading 'cause I started having flashbacks with hard bullying on me at work (I wasn't as heavy as the manga, of course, but it wasn't pleasant either). But I wanted so much to find out what Haruka would do that I had to complete it. As I said before, it didn't give me the nicest experience but that's what psychological horror (or this kind of mangas) is and it totally got me there. Maybe I'm too sensitive, I dunno, but it got me so I can't say it was a bad manga, on the contrary, I'd say it accomplishes what it wants from the reader. So at least it's a 7 on me. I hope this review can help someone else :) Bye for now! |
rick1-2 said: Yeah, I agree. Thanks for clarifying that both Haruka and Shoko actually died in the last chapter. I get that Haruka died from her stab wounds, but Shoko? Yeah, Shoko most likely died from her condition (practically turned into a human crisp) and shock (from Rumi shouting near her). Shoko was already very close to death from her condition, and it seems like the shock from Rumi yelling in her room caused her to die. She died right after Haruka left the hospital to pursue Rumi in order to kill her. The fact that Haruka and Shoko's grandfather is all alone at the train station shows that both of his granddaughters are confirmed dead, and he very likely found out about both of their deaths off-screen via looking at their dead bodies (Haruka's dead body was likely found out there in the snow and brought to the hospital to confirm her death; Shoko was already in the hospital when she herself died). It's sad that Haruka and Shoko are dead, with their grandfather being the only one left in his family. As he said, everything has ended when spring came, despite them being bad. We, as the readers, have to deal with it. Do you think that the grandfather will visit their graves from time to time? I hope to hear your answers soon, Kanna! Oh thank you for replying! You made my day brighter :) Yes, we are not told how he notices but I think that's not a really important matter. Maybe he'll return to pray in the graves of the whole family. But being the oldest to remain was very deep, bro, I mean, the messagge behind it like: and now what is left for me in this world? My whole family is dead, I'm an old man, I cannot 'redo' my life now... Or maaaaybe, just maybe the train was an apology to suicide or pacific death? I mean, the train and the station was EMPTY AF, that I noticed. And the only one who are shown in are the old man and Haruka. Just didn't mention 'cause I kinda forgot that detail haha. So the option left to think is that in such a small town like that not many (or any) people would take trains. Or just a coincidence being really early in the morn and noone taking it. Dunno. It caught my attention that Shoko wasn't around his last thoughts or at least as strong as Haruka. He apologizes only to her, regreting not 'noticing her pain' but he doesn't think about 'not being there for Shoko' or anything like that. Anyways, is a really interesting way to end a story. I've never seen something like that before and that I applaude to Rensuke Oshikiri. It's funny how I came across this manga xD being a fan of High Score Girl I didn't think it could have such a gore mind XD The world keeps surprising me :) See you around rick! Add me as a friend if you like :) |
rick1-2 said: It's sad that the only non-asshole classmate (the one who actually apologized to Haruka) was killed by Rui, she was the only one who repents. If I remember correctly, this classmate has feelings for Haruka, and she knew how dark the boy who has feelings for Haruka is. Do you know her? Do you think Misu Misou could have made improvements to its story and characters? I hope to hear from you soon. Hi Rick :) Yes, I remember the scene where Ogura (the blonde girl) regrets everything at the bus stop. I kinda forgave her as well as Haruka when she confessed. Actually she was the only character to be honest with Haruka at all. Her motives to be resentful where really stupid but I give her that due to her age and family condition. Ogura was looking for support and when she found it in Haruka, it was disappointing to her the fact that she wouldn't leave her family as much as Ogura wanted with her own. She couldn't understand that because the conception of ''family'' between them were oposite. That's where envy posseses her and turns everything in his mind upside-down and the love-hate relation begins. The manga is playing with opposites all time, been ''bad'' the normal and ''good'' the weird thing. It's funny cause everyone kind of gets that ''the town'' in its whole is messed up but instead of dealing with it, they blame it and wants to run away. What they don't understand about runaways is that if you're messed up, problems will travel with you. I'm thinking what to tell you about improvements in characters and story but I can't get much haha. For me, if the story was meant to be this cruel and tense, I say it's perfect this way. I think I would have liked some ''normal things'' to happen from time to time. Like the kiss scene. It was really conforting for Haruka that moment but then again everything had to fell apart in the end :( I wasn't expecting a happy ending at all but less unjustified deaths. I wasn't necessary (even if you hated her) to kill the teacher (that was far-fetched... I mean, what were the chances??) and killing Ogura... If she survived it could have had a nice meaning to it. But no. Every 'evi'l had to end and was not saveable. Kind of a reboot thing. For that ending I gave it a 4 out of 5. So, the story and characters were actually fine by me. It was at least interesting enough for me to read it almost all at once in a day and that is not common for me. I like reading manga a lot but not all mangas make me wanna keep on doing it (for example, I can't end reading Shinobu Shijuusou even if I want to cause the story is soooo boring! Tha characters are really stereotypical and cute but idk why I can't end with it and has pretty much the same amount of chapters as Hepatica) So there you go. Damn I write a lot LOL I hope you like what I write :) Thank you for always reading me :) See you again! |
| I think some points are a little exaggerated, also, such cases usually happen in developing countries, but this is a worthy manga with a decent end. Very tragic and sad. |
| I unexpectedly enjoyed it a lot. Shouko's death really hit me. Mitsuru that bastard totally got what he deserves. I felt really sad seeing Haruka going through all those moments. When Haruka called out her sister's name in the final chapter , it really broke my heart. I'm not really into these kinds of stuffs, I wouldn't probably read it if I didn't like High Score Girl. But I'm glad I read it. I like Oshikiri Rensuke's art style. |
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| A small town with several troubled kids with abusive parents, including psychotic ones who kill animals, with victims of bullying, the teacher included, does explain the insane behavior of these characters, but... Rumi and Taeko's make the least sense of how twisted they've become. Moreso Ogura Taeko with who she was. Aiba's twist of being insane as well in his own right was interesting too. The teacher going crazy and injuring the parents was fun also. It's a little ridiculous, but fun as a revenge horror. Never expected the protagonist herself to die as well in the end. I didn't like the art at first, but quickly liked it from Haruka's death glare. It's ugly in its own way, but compliments the intriguing insanity of these character's emotions and gore. 6/10. |
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