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Jul 18, 2022 8:41 PM
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SPOILER ALERT!!! THIS THREAD MAY CONTAIN SPOILER

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I've finally completed the season. tbh, it wasn't as bad as I expected. I enjoyed this season better than the 1st one. they no longer pushed the edgy character. making naofumi a more believable human being than he was before.
I can see the animator trying so hard to make the action scene looks good although it is almost still as boring as the 1st season with spamming english words that might sounds cool for japanese. but sincree there is less fighting arc in this season, it is much more bearable. to put it short, an SAO downgrade -which is good.

so any way, to my topic/question.

while there are many questionable plot in the season, what I wanted to ask if whether there would be an explanation for a certain someone to bring along the sacred katana from another world?

I mean, isn't it weird that a creation from another world actually is the rightful owner of the sacred katana? considering in the world where the katana originates I don't think there were even the species that currently held it.



so i was just wondering if there would be an explanation like:
-the world is originally one
-all the heroes cross-world were bound to work together in the end

and while at it, if the current owner of the sacred katana stays with his/her party, won't that hinder the exp? since if heroes were in a party/close distance, they won't get exp cmiiw. - wait. how does this works when naofumi and larc partied in the island in s1?
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Jul 18, 2022 9:38 PM
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I'm okay with a being of another world being the master os the vassal, the only thing that I want to know

why didn't she got teleported when the wave began? Also, how is she coming back to her original world? its like taking the sword hero to that world, this would just make the power of the worlds go uneven
it could be explained that they have lots of vassals so one wouldn't make so much difference, but it's how the system of that world works so there's no room for this kind of thought
Jul 18, 2022 11:24 PM
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Obscure_Otaku said:
I'm okay with a being of another world being the master os the vassal, the only thing that I want to know

why didn't she got teleported when the wave began? Also, how is she coming back to her original world? its like taking the sword hero to that world, this would just make the power of the worlds go uneven
it could be explained that they have lots of vassals so one wouldn't make so much difference, but it's how the system of that world works so there's no room for this kind of thought

She didn't get teleported because she was in Naofumi's party and they can only be teleported all at once and if Naofumi himself gets teleported
Jul 19, 2022 12:49 AM
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Vassal heroes can travel across the worlds. There is no rule that a vassal weapon of one world can't exist in the other. If that were the case, then system would have interrupted their travel, like how Naofumi and his party were not allowed to travel into Glass's world in episode 6 until Ost gave them that rights.

I still don't understand the exp awards part, So, I wont comment on that part.
Jul 19, 2022 1:25 AM
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dirtopi said:
She didn't get teleported because she was in Naofumi's party and they can only be teleported all at once and if Naofumi himself gets teleported

but she could get NOT teleported when naofumi and the fishing rod girl teleported using the dragon hour glass? sus
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Vassal heroes can travel across the worlds. There is no rule that a vassal weapon of one world can't exist in the other. If that were the case, then system would have interrupted their travel, like how Naofumi and his party were not allowed to travel into Glass's world in episode 6 until Ost gave them that rights.

I still don't understand the exp awards part, So, I wont comment on that part.

then why they seems like they're having trouble getting back to their own world (by following portal created by kyou instead of making their own).

i think i'm good with the katana brought to naofumi's world, but what about having it in another world creatures possession? esp. when there are rumor saying that heroes can save their own world by destroying other worlds (or killing their heroes. i'm not sure how it works).
won't it be weird to have a sacred weapon that serves as a way to repel calamity on your world to be in possession of someone from another world?
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Jul 19, 2022 11:19 AM
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Honestly in surprised raphtalia got to keep the katana
Jul 19, 2022 11:38 AM
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Raphatlia becomes a katana heroine, it doesn't mean that she will be teleported to the wave of this world (ep 11). From what I understand in S1 and S2, the person is teleported, if he has registered as a member of the cardinal hero's group in his correspondent world, for example, Yomogi, not being a vassal heroine, but being registered as a member of Kizuna's group, she is teleported along with the hunting heroine in Kizuna's own world. Vassal heroes can only be teleported if they are in the group of Cardinal hero in their corresponding world, in addition to being able to freely travel in any world, unlike with cardinal heroes... with the exception of Naofumi who obtained the power of the turtle, responsible for the manipulation of that power...
Jul 19, 2022 5:47 PM
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GabrielCri said:
Raphatlia becomes a katana heroine, it doesn't mean that she will be teleported to the wave of this world (ep 11). From what I understand in S1 and S2, the person is teleported, if he has registered as a member of the cardinal hero's group in his correspondent world, for example, Yomogi, not being a vassal heroine, but being registered as a member of Kizuna's group, she is teleported along with the hunting heroine in Kizuna's own world. Vassal heroes can only be teleported if they are in the group of Cardinal hero in their corresponding world, in addition to being able to freely travel in any world, unlike with cardinal heroes... with the exception of Naofumi who obtained the power of the turtle, responsible for the manipulation of that power...

so basically the teleportation works for Cardinal heroes (the 4 main heroes), but not to the 7 (or so) vassal heroes? sorry, but I can't remember every characters name xD
how about the final battle with the wave in larcs world then? didnt larc, therese, glass, and the boat guy got teleported despite being vassal heroes? -some other dude said that raph didt got teleported cuz shes a party member of naofumi, so we can put that aside
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Jul 19, 2022 7:11 PM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
Raphatlia becomes a katana heroine, it doesn't mean that she will be teleported to the wave of this world (ep 11). From what I understand in S1 and S2, the person is teleported, if he has registered as a member of the cardinal hero's group in his correspondent world, for example, Yomogi, not being a vassal heroine, but being registered as a member of Kizuna's group, she is teleported along with the hunting heroine in Kizuna's own world. Vassal heroes can only be teleported if they are in the group of Cardinal hero in their corresponding world, in addition to being able to freely travel in any world, unlike with cardinal heroes... with the exception of Naofumi who obtained the power of the turtle, responsible for the manipulation of that power...

so basically the teleportation works for Cardinal heroes (the 4 main heroes), but not to the 7 (or so) vassal heroes? sorry, but I can't remember every characters name xD
how about the final battle with the wave in larcs world then? didnt larc, therese, glass, and the boat guy got teleported despite being vassal heroes? -some other dude said that raph didt got teleported cuz shes a party member of naofumi, so we can put that aside



Therese, L'Arc, Glass and the boat guy are part of Kizuna's group as well. So who is only transported, those who are members of some cardinal hero's group. Naofumi was not teleported in that wave (ep 11), because that world was not the world he was summoned, but Kizuna's. Otherwise, if Kizuna and her group were in Raphatalia's world, She and the others would not be teleported... and Naofumi and Raphatlalia (even though she is the heroine of katana) would be teleported into the wave...
Jul 20, 2022 1:48 AM

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GabrielCri said:
Therese, L'Arc, Glass and the boat guy are part of Kizuna's group as well. So who is only transported, those who are members of some cardinal hero's group. Naofumi was not teleported in that wave (ep 11), because that world was not the world he was summoned, but Kizuna's. Otherwise, if Kizuna and her group were in Raphatalia's world, She and the others would not be teleported... and Naofumi and Raphatlalia (even though she is the heroine of katana) would be teleported into the wave...


is kizuna the fishing rod girl? is she a cardinal hero in her world?
is the sacred katana a cardinal weapon?
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Jul 20, 2022 10:28 AM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
Therese, L'Arc, Glass and the boat guy are part of Kizuna's group as well. So who is only transported, those who are members of some cardinal hero's group. Naofumi was not teleported in that wave (ep 11), because that world was not the world he was summoned, but Kizuna's. Otherwise, if Kizuna and her group were in Raphatalia's world, She and the others would not be teleported... and Naofumi and Raphatlalia (even though she is the heroine of katana) would be teleported into the wave...


is kizuna the fishing rod girl? is she a cardinal hero in her world?
is the sacred katana a cardinal weapon?


Kizuna is the heroine of fishing, and yes, Kizuna is a cardinal heroine in her world. Katana weapon is not cardinal weapon, but it is vassal weapon of Kizuna's world
Jul 22, 2022 5:34 PM

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GabrielCri said:
Kizuna is the heroine of fishing, and yes, Kizuna is a cardinal heroine in her world. Katana weapon is not cardinal weapon, but it is vassal weapon of Kizuna's world

I see. this explains a lot. I should pay more attention to the weapon statuses. -not to be rude or anything- but basically the vassal weapon were like whatever right?
can you perhaps confirm that only cardinal weapon's wielder were human from our world? and can only be wield by one?
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Jul 24, 2022 4:39 AM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
Kizuna is the heroine of fishing, and yes, Kizuna is a cardinal heroine in her world. Katana weapon is not cardinal weapon, but it is vassal weapon of Kizuna's world

I see. this explains a lot. I should pay more attention to the weapon statuses. -not to be rude or anything- but basically the vassal weapon were like whatever right?


I did not understand your question...


"can you perhaps confirm that only cardinal weapon's wielder were human from our world? and can only be wield by one?"

I can't confirm this, there are exceptions. Only one can wield it, but after the hero's death, another person chosen by the weapon is called to be used.
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GabrielCri said:
I did not understand your question...


"can you perhaps confirm that only cardinal weapon's wielder were human from our world? and can only be wield by one?"

I can't confirm this, there are exceptions. Only one can wield it, but after the hero's death, another person chosen by the weapon is called to be used.

I meant something like vassal weapon is meaningless. -it's just there- compared to cardinal weapon.

what cardinal weapon is not used by our human? u can use the spoiler tag
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Jul 24, 2022 7:10 PM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
I did not understand your question...


"can you perhaps confirm that only cardinal weapon's wielder were human from our world? and can only be wield by one?"

I can't confirm this, there are exceptions. Only one can wield it, but after the hero's death, another person chosen by the weapon is called to be used.

I meant something like vassal weapon is meaningless. -it's just there- compared to cardinal weapon.

what cardinal weapon is not used by our human? u can use the spoiler tag


The vassal weapons are only used by people from the fantasy world. Therefore, they are in the fantasy worlds, for example, Glass and L'Arc, who are from Kizuna's world, and received their weapons in their own world. Unlike the Cardinal weapon, which appears only when summoning a person in the "real" world, such as Naofumi and the three heroes. But as I said, there are exceptions to this concept, which are:

Jul 25, 2022 3:19 PM

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GabrielCri said:
The vassal weapons are only used by people from the fantasy world. Therefore, they are in the fantasy worlds, for example, Glass and L'Arc, who are from Kizuna's world, and received their weapons in their own world. Unlike the Cardinal weapon, which appears only when summoning a person in the "real" world, such as Naofumi and the three heroes. But as I said, there are exceptions to this concept, which are:



if I wanted to confirm your first sentence, it would have to be to the earlier episodes when naofumi got summoned right? whether if they were given the weapons, or the weapon got summoned with them.

tbh, I'm not a fan of this "exceptions" concept as it looks like plot inconsistency to me. but let's put that aside unless you have some explanation regarding why this exception actually makes sense.

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Jul 25, 2022 7:42 PM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
The vassal weapons are only used by people from the fantasy world. Therefore, they are in the fantasy worlds, for example, Glass and L'Arc, who are from Kizuna's world, and received their weapons in their own world. Unlike the Cardinal weapon, which appears only when summoning a person in the "real" world, such as Naofumi and the three heroes. But as I said, there are exceptions to this concept, which are:



if I wanted to confirm your first sentence, it would have to be to the earlier episodes when naofumi got summoned right? whether if they were given the weapons, or the weapon got summoned with them.

tbh, I'm not a fan of this "exceptions" concept as it looks like plot inconsistency to me. but let's put that aside unless you have some explanation regarding why this exception actually makes sense.



To be honest, I can't confirm (because I don't remember how it was in S1 or the answer to this question should be answered with the history of ancient legendary heroes).

I wouldn't say it's plot inconsistencies, but world inconsistencies used on purpose... plot inconsistencies is another matter...

Jul 25, 2022 9:15 PM

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GabrielCri said:
To be honest, I can't confirm (because I don't remember how it was in S1 or the answer to this question should be answered with the history of ancient legendary heroes).

I wouldn't say it's plot inconsistencies, but world inconsistencies used on purpose... plot inconsistencies is another matter...


I see. All you said makes the series more senses. Except of course the inconsistencies still remains. Can't wait for season 3 to hopefully unravel this summoning system! I'm still hyped! I wish they won't add trash fighting scene and push the edgy naofumi like in S1
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Jul 28, 2022 11:32 AM
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sora2eugene said:
GabrielCri said:
To be honest, I can't confirm (because I don't remember how it was in S1 or the answer to this question should be answered with the history of ancient legendary heroes).

I wouldn't say it's plot inconsistencies, but world inconsistencies used on purpose... plot inconsistencies is another matter...


I see. All you said makes the series more senses. Except of course the inconsistencies still remains. Can't wait for season 3 to hopefully unravel this summoning system! I'm still hyped! I wish they won't add trash fighting scene and push the edgy naofumi like in S1


I believe that the summon system is not presented in S3...I'm even excited for the third season, because there will be a lot of characters that seem to be interesting...but now I have low expectations because of S2, and yes, the fight scenes were rubbish... Naofumi's nervous personality needs to be present in S3, as it will be a resource for his development, according to LN readers who told me...

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