Ameku Takao no Suiri Karte Episode 9 Discussion

Eat your heart out, Jun Maeda. THIS is how you write children with terminal illnesses and how they pass away. It is tragically real and should be treated with the upmost seriousness and sincerity.

Ameku M.D.'s finest 22 minutes. After last week's shocking cliffhanger, the reveal of the culprits and what was going on was cool to see. I really appreciate how they handled Kenta's final moments, no music, no melodramatics, just silence and some dialogue. It was a really respectful and the beeping of the monitor and how it fades is tearjerking. After so many episodes solving medical mysteries and piecing together Machiavellian plots, Dr. Takao being faced with this hard truth for those in the medical industry is a solid part of her character journey, Ayane Sakura deserves all the credit for how she voiced Takao's emotional breakdown and writing it to the tune of Christmas music on a vinyl turntable (neat addition btw, adds some nice quiet character detail to her) drowning her sobs out is genius on the Mangaka's part.

@zdeisterreviews Jun Maeda has ever written children with terminal illnesses? Most of the deaths in his stories are caused by magical realism or accidents. Also, this is novel, not manga or LN.

@RobertBobert Hina Satou, Nagisa and Ushio Okazaki, and that one harem member’s little brother from Kanon would all like a word with you. Also the medium being adapted are irrelevant, this is about writing.

Even if one saw the end of The Day I Became a God as hopeful, I’ve always felt that the way Hina’s condition was treated was extremely iffy and overly dramatic. The attempt to make her biological dad seem sympathetic was also a major misstep as realistically he’d be locked up for child neglect; there is no excuse for a character that callous.

To me the problem is is that Maeda’s works overdoes in both acting and music. The silent approach has always been more impactful to me.

@zdeisterreviews All of them except Ushio were more or less the same age as MC. Also, Hina wasn't threatened with death, but with mental problems, if I remember correctly. Not to mention certain nuances that I can't reveal due to spoilers. The difference is that Maeda writes nakige, a specific tragic visual novel with its own specificity. While Kenta-kun's death was supposed to represent the classic death of a patient in his bed. Jun and the author of this novel had different goals and means of telling the story.

@RobertBobert Age in relation to the main character is irrelevant. That isn’t making any point.

Day was a completely anime original, while I get the style differences, I won’t be convinced that it was executed well as my family has been through a similar situation and I found Maeda was incredibly irresponsible and disrespectful in regards to medical consent and the whole care facility part. At any rate, this hardly the forum to hash this out. The clearcut point here is that I consider Kenta’s death to have been excellently told and is just how I prefer to see it done as I’m more impacted by realism.

@zdeisterreviews It is important because the illness or death of the protagonist's children and peers is fundamentally different.

While I personally like Day, it's far from Maeda's best work and judging his entire writing based on that is a bit of a stretch. Why not Clannad or Kanon? Or Air? I understand that you don't like the show, but that's not worth dismissing Jun's entire career at once. And as I said, Maeda writes magical realism, which is a completely different genre.

@RobertBobert, you seem to be missing the point that all life is sacred. I’m always going to take a moment to think about any death. It’s not about in-universe logic but an author and director taking a second to let the audience process that a light has just been snuffed out or is under threat, regardless of relation. Death is death, no matter how it’s written.

All I’ve said is that I prefer Chinen’s approach to Maeda’s, that’s not the same as discussing Maeda on his own merits. Besides, I’m mostly negative about his recent works; refer to my anime list for scores on the former two and take it to my comments. Don’t clutter this thread if it’s not about Ameku M.D.

@zdeisterreviews The fact that every life is sacred does not change the fact that a character's age is an important parameter in how his death will be portrayed in the media. As is the connection between this character and the protagonist. For example, the death of the protagonist's wife would obviously be portrayed differently than the death of his child. I think it's obvious, so Captain Obvious talk about how death is bad has nothing to do with our conversation.

I remember what you said. But firstly, you compare the writing of death in very different genres, and secondly, you try to spread your negative opinion about Maeda's latest works to his entire oeuvre.

@RobertBobert Again, you're not making an argument at all; in fact you're just saying what is very obvious, so I don't get why you feel the need to call attention to age - again, death is death. You're making zero connections to what is being discussed. No wonder this keeps going in circles.

I also never said anything about Maeda as a whole, it's always been about one of his series under fire. You've either made an identity mistake or you think I said something that I clearly haven't. Again, this isn't about Ameku M.D., I don't get why this is continuing here.

@zdeisterreviews A person who doesn't listen to what I have to say and literally repeats his argument over and over again in the spirit of "you're wrong, I'll repeat my opinion again until you agree" tells me something about arguments and going in circles. Ironic, lmao. I'm going to speak for the last time. We're discussing writing childhood illness and death. Obviously, writing death will depend on the character's personality and their connection to the MC. You can repeat obvious platitudes like "death is death" as much as you want to change the topic of our conversation, but it won't work. The way Jun writes about the deaths of MC's peers is not relevant to the question for the above reasons.

You literally started by saying that he should learn how to write death from the author of this show. And you also made multiple comments about Jun being a bad writer because you don't like his style in general. Even though he writes in a different genre altogether. If you didn't want comparisons, you shouldn't have compared in the first place. This is my final response, I'm not going to waste my time on people who not only engage in sophistry, but are also brazen enough to teach others how to argue.

Such a sad episode.

Now you have to feel bad for those three kids. They understood their mistake and wanted to make Kenta feel at least a little bit better. Anyway, they clearly went way too far. I'm glad they didn't get hurt.

R.I.P Kenta. :( Well, I guess he died happily thanks to Takao.

I think this show should have been more like this from the very beginning. More medical cases instead of all the detective work.

Jeez that was dark and depressing, if you didn’t cry then you have no soul

The children were all very sad, like make you cry sad, but that doesn't change the fact that Doctor whatshername's behaviour was utterly appalling. I know it's just an anime show, but how can we be expected to like a character that behaves like this? Doctors aren't immature like this, doctors face death every day, her reaction to it all was ridiculous and unprofessional, refusing to visit the child because of her own stupid, selfish feelings, letting the other children do something seriously dangerous, not to mention illegal and a waste of beds for real patients, not telling the other staff what was going on from the start like an irritating child. I haven't liked her character from the start, I don't care for snotty know-it-alls, but this episode takes the cake. What an obnoxious, awful, horrible character.