BanG Dream! Ave Mujica Episode 11 Discussion

I wonder how credible some of the details said by Hatsune were. She blamed herself for Sakidad's being framed and leading to Sakiko's downfall, makes sense but i may have a feeling might not simply be that way. How would this change Sakiko's feeling, and how it would be tied to Ave mujica?. Only 2 episodes left and i have to wait another week, maddening!

the performance in voice acting is like 12/10 quality here, quite insane

Where the music? (⁠ノ⁠｀⁠⌒⁠´⁠)⁠ノ⁠┫⁠：⁠・⁠┻⁠┻

@Jebidor I see you are a man of culture as well... Well, at least you answered sincerely instead of trying to cover up your tastes with some pseudo-aesthetic or pseudo-intellectual nonsense like some people in the twitter or reddit.

@Irena973

lol, btw there are 3 more song in new ave mujica album that are not revealed yet. All songs in the album are in the anime so far. So i guess they will at least perform 2 more songs toward the end, and the last one for credit scene may be.

@Irena973

lol, btw there are 3 more song in new ave mujica album that are not revealed yet. All songs in the album are in the anime so far. So i guess they will at least perform 2 more songs toward the end, and the last one for credit scene may be.

I also think that Sakiko's dad being framed is not related to Hatsune.

@Myetx It is evident that a teenager like Uika/Hatsune could not cause Sakiko's father fall directly, he does not have that power but indirectly for being the grandfather's daughter because yes. Everything revolves around the grandfather. Why did Sakiko's father banished out of the family? Okay committed a Loss in theory, but it is his son -in -law, and his granddaughter's father. There is something not yet told about grandfather. Is the head of the family or is there someone above him?

@Hormigo
Sakigranpa is married into the Togawa family, just like Sakidad. Therefore, i do believe there are people above him, but he puts family image above all anyway
i still wonder about how Sakigranpa still let Hatsune operates as Uika in Sumimi, and with Sakiko as Ave mujica for a while tho. Then suddenly separate them. there must be something happening

Now that I have calmed down and rewatched today, I realized I got too carried away by the performance during the first viewing and suddenly everything in this episode felt off.

In the span of one episode, they devolved a character who should’ve been the forefront guitar-vocalist of the titular band of the show into a literal lovesick puppy crawling over the floor calling Saki’s name. Combined with her previous acts like sniffing Sakiko’s pillow and sleeping with Oblivionis costume: It’s not love; it’s obsession.

(This reminded me of a quote from Buffy S03E08 “Lovers Walk”: “Love isn't brains, children, it's blood. Blood screaming inside you to work its will... I may be love's b---- but at least I'm man enough to admit it.”)

I don’t deny Hatsune’s moment of genuine joy and enlightenment from that one day and night with Saki might have had a profound impact that raised her out of self-pity, but doing everything to be with her in the name of love does not negate all her missteps.

And alas, let’s not forget the poor, real Uika, who had her best friend taken from her, her name and dream robbed from her. I wonder if the show would be different had she died from fever on that fateful day but asked Hatsune to take up her identity and fulfil their dream so that Sakiko would not be devastated. Yet the possibility of her still living left me chills since now Hatsune now has to face the victim of her own crime of passion.

Clearly, the twins idea was brought up by Yuniko Ayana (evidently in her past work like Flip Flappers, Natsu-iro Kiseki, etc.), but something happened during the writing process as it lost its place to “Mortis” arc which has taken up significant more space in the show and relegated the Uika/Hatsune reveal to the end of episode 10 and only two episodes to deal with the family drama, which could have been the main plot worthy since Sadaharu himself is personally responsible for three bands.

(Side note: in the end credits, unlike episode 3 where they distinguish one “Mutsumi” and twelve “Mortis”, this time it’s just “Misumi Uika” without “Hatsune”)

Have you ever seen someone down so bad for her niece?

@sansaranaga I love that while most people argue about whether or not they can continue their ship after they are found to be related, hardcore yuri fans just calmly choose the incest route and move on.

@CottonModem I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be illegal in Japan either. As I wrote earlier, they were most likely deliberately chosen be the aunt and niece to both register them "as sisters" and keep a window open for those who still want to ship them.

@RobertBobert Yeah, pretty sure it's legal there too, but they wouldn't be able to marry because of the same-sex aspect. Yet.

Seriously impressed that this is a largely one-hander episode with Uika (actually Hatsune)'s VA carrying it.

A lot of this drama would have not happened if Ave Mujica's members talked it out early, but that takes a level of emotional maturity even a lot of adults don't have. Even in the case of MyGO, they're lucky Anon was there.