Yuusha-kei ni Shosu: Choubatsu Yuusha 9004-tai Keimu Kiroku Episode 2 Discussion

Idk I feel very bored when there's not an action sequence going on, production is fantastic but I don't really care about the characters nor plot so far and was hoping it would get a bit more fleshed out.

So we saw magical artillery in the first episode, and now, we see a abandonned/destroyed tank ! What others technologicals stuff do they have in stock. But I wonder why we didn't saw any in the battle of EP1, I'm probably overthinking.

@Vendun Didn't really like it when I saw that. Not really a fan of "our world but in future" trope/twist. This may not be the case though. Still, WW2 tank suggests this may be future Earth and tanks are lost tech from the "old world". I mean, it's already known "goddesses" were built and there are no other species other than humans around so humans must've built them, meaning mankind was MUCH much more advanced in the past. WW2 tank may simply be lazy choice from studio/author (instead of making unique to the world tank design) but still, not a fan. Ruins immersion IMO. Especially because of the chosen tank. I mean, humans were definitely more advanced so why the f would there be crappy, inferior ww2 Japanese tank instead of a modern tank of some sort???

@Sigmar-Unberogen The word "lazy" doesn't fit this production.

@karrotStick Cutting the scene of Kivia showing her poorly drawn map was a bad move, as that scene was important for the audience to sympathize with her. however, it's clear that the screenwriter wants to prolong Kivia's development, just as they are doing with the relationship between Xylo and Teoritta.

As for the original nine-minute introduction, I quite liked it. it showed more of the world and gave Xylo another reason to save the people inside the mine. However, I didn't like the change in Norgalle's introduction scene in the anime, in the light novel, his first appearance had a much greater impact.

Overall, it was a very good episode, and considering this isn't a priority episode, I'm eager to see how the animation will be in a priority episode.

By the way

I explained my POV though. Technologically more advanced humans of the past using crappy ww2 tank? IMO that ruins immersion. Instead of adding a futuristic (real or fictional) tank, they chose that thing and it makes you wonder why.

Call it nitpick if you want but I personally didn't like their choice. Can't do anything about it. IMO they should've used more imagination/originality.

Not the end of the world, I know. Just saying...

The dirty gloves stay on when making the burnt onigiri.

@Desmascarado The budget is gonna go into the later episodes and yeah the

So Temu Esdeath just might have a conscience. The fake king and PTSD Guy are also kind of cool. If only Territorial could STFU for five seconds, we'd be golden. I'm assuming Xylo's reaction is meant to be the same as ours. Moving right along to the next fight.

Lol, as I said it's not the end of the world, yes, I know. But I think I've provided solid arguments why I'd question the guy's creativity lol. ONLY when it comes to choosing tanks at least, lol!

I don't really care about his resume. It won't change the scene in the current show.

Let me say it again. It's the choice of the model of the tank that I have a problem with. That particular tank is known to have been crap! In this world it's "lost tech from the old world". In the old world they could make something as advanced as "goddesses", but they also made total crap tanks lol? How? Xylo would likely blow one up with his knives lol. It bugs me man, I can't help it.

Because of the choice made, it makes perfect sense for me to assume:
"Maybe the author/studio didn't give 2 shits about which tank they'd use in that scene?"

That can certainly be the case lol. I mean, what makes you sure they wouldn't choose the first tank they "Googled"? Maybe they chose the first one they thought about or knew about (since it's historical Japanese tank)? Maybe they thought no one would give a flying F anyways? In a way they'd be right lol. Average person would look at the tank and say "oh, a tank". Average person would likely not give a F about the model of the tank or has no knowledge of tanks or their history. Some may not even give it attention or forget it the next second. That's why I assume that maybe they author/studio thought they didn't need to bother or waste time researching tanks or creating a unique one for the story? Heck, maybe we won't see another tank EVER? If that was a 1 time thing, that would also explain the lack of creativity and/or imagination. "Not worth the effort" can also be the case, so, just copy/paste whatever.

This anime isn't even the first example lol. Right away I can remember at least 2 other post-apocalypse anime/manga where humans used to have crazy futuristic tech like laser-robots in the past, but in present drive crappy early-stage ww2 tanks for some reason lol. Heck, authors may have chosen those because they thought the design looked cool and that's it. It won't be honest to say I'm 100% wrong to think this way lol. And my criticism doesn't mean I think the story is shit lol, because of that 1 scene :D

@Sigmar-Unberogen It seems you didn't bother to research Ike, so I'll summarize for you:
Nobutaka Ike specializes in narrative design, which is creating a background setting that enhances the anime's story. In other words, every detail in the background setting is there for a reason, and of course, achieving this requires a lot of dedication from the staff.

You talk about the tank model not being right, but what would be the correct model...? See, it's an idiotic complaint.
I don't even know why I'm paying attention to a complaint like this, since you yourself have already admitted that your complaint is idiotic.

@Desmascarado You do realize you don't have to answer if talking to me makes you irritated right?

Your usage of "idiotic" for instance is a clear indication of irritation. It honestly leaves an impression I'm talking to some insecure butthurt fanboy now. I mean, look at this statement: "every detail in the background setting is there for a reason". Like, every minuscule detail like that 2 second tank scene was in your opinion 100% thoroughly researched? Would you bet your life on it? I wouldn't, because that would indeed be idiotic. You can not seriously be 100% sure that's the case unless the guy made an official statement regarding this particular topic or something. What if someone eventually asks Ike "Why did you decide to use crappy ww2 tank in that 1 scene?" and the answer is "LOL I didn't really think much about it, I just chose whatever and moved on." What would you do then?

You'd know the answer if you actually read my comment. I already explained that a "modern (as in modern tanks in real world) or original model" would've completely disintegrated this complaint. With original model of a tank, you can only imagine what the old-world tanks were capable of doing, how powerful or advanced they were for instance and so on. You'd just have to agree those tanks had to be complex tech of lost advanced civilization.
With modern real-life model of a tank you pretty much already know it's an advanced piece of tech that was obviously lost in time since people are using bows and arrows now. Modern tank model enchases the plot-point that old civ was capable of making something as advanced as goddesses.

What makes little to no sense is the presence of crappy WW2 Japanese tanks which feel incredibly out of place! Civilization that made goddesses would not make inferior, garbage ww2 style tanks. It's anticlimactic and really points to poor or lazy writing. We may get an explanation on this later. But for now, you can't come out and dismiss this argument as idiotic. It's perfectly valid criticism. What I'm doing is better than simply gulping down what's served like some braindead loyal consumer.

Easy. I assume you simply got triggered seeing someone criticize a minuscule detail of what you likely consider to be a "masterpiece". Why else would you deny my opinion while pretending Ike is a "god". We're still talking about a 2 second scene at the end of the day. I'm not here to say your god is fake. I'm saying he may have flaws and be lazy sometimes. Deal with it.

I never did. Stop coping. I literally did the opposite by explaining exactly how and why my complaint DOES make sense. You don't have evidence to prove me wrong for now. All you do is just assume Ike is some flawless genius who must've done his research on everything. Well, geniuses can make mistakes or be lazy too. A shocker!

Just admit you're running away from conversation. You have no arguments.

@Sigmar-Unberogen Yes, you won! I admit that the fact that the tank model is an old one is a clear mistake by the background scenery staff.

You know a lot about tanks!, that's cool!! You're awesome!!!

@Desmascarado Sigh... ok dude, whatever. I'll pretend those words came from the heart so that this convo ends peacefully.

Just so you know, I'm still pretty much enjoying the show despite that f-ing 2 seconds scene I explained multiple times wasn't the "end of the world" for me. I simply explained my perspective.

@Sigmar-Unberogen Besides knowing tanks very well, you're also so humble, wow, you're amazing, man.

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