| We all know that the native isekai genre has gotten really popular in recent years, and Frieren seems to be the most popular example of a native isekai anime, so tell me, do you think that Frieren is the best native isekai we've gotten? Would it be possible to get a better native isekai than Frieren? |
| Elves and magic =/= Isekai Isekai is when a person ends up in another world, usually by dying in their home world. |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
| It's just Fantasy (Isekai = Reincarnation). But yeah, I am a Frieren glazer so it absolutely is the best. |
My favorite fantasy is Uchi no ko no Tame. Ishizoku Reviewers is up there too! |
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| The best isekai is the one where I was transported to a world without you and shitty rage baits๐ |
| Gr8 B8 M8 I R- Actually bun that crap, this was really just a dumb post if anything... |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| This aint no isekai, c'mon now. It literally says fantasy when u scroll. Great bait. |
 "Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki I rate by enjoyment |
| Its medieval fantasy .... |
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Reply to Rejakos
SPCTRE said:
It's just Fantasy (Isekai = Reincarnation). But yeah, I am a Frieren glazer so it absolutely is the best.
It's just Fantasy (Isekai = Reincarnation). But yeah, I am a Frieren glazer so it absolutely is the best.
Isekai is not the same as reincarnation. it literally means "another world". reincarnation is just one of many ways to go there.
| @Rejakos Sounds good, I was wrong |
| Dude there's enough BS in the world every day with Trump's administration and all the bots and AI crap. We really don't need supplementary BS like that in our days. Would be nice if you were to consider the world's situation and tone it done. "Native isekai"? FFS... |
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| As everyone else has said, this is NOT an isekai, the isekai genre literally just means going to another world, whether that be through death and reincarnation as is common, or various other methods like getting transported there via magic. Frieren has taken place on the same world throughout the entire show, so it's not an isekai. Even an anime like Dr Stone isn't an isekai, yeah, it's basically whole different world in terms of how it is to live on, but it's still the same world so it's not and isekai. Isekai is such a generic genre in terms of what it can apply to, it's really not just those fantasy shows where the MC reincarnates and is OP. Those are just what's common, if an author wanted to, they could write an Isekai that's totally different from what we usually get because the only thing that makes something an Isekai is whether or not the show is about going to another world. |
| I like to watch some anime, I like to talk about some anime, I dislike wars over some anime, but more than anything I love to live my life, anime is an enjoyable and entertaining addition onto my life but it's not my whole life. |
| Like I said in now-deleted other thread, Mods will have to drop month-long (or perma) ban hammers on people, otherwise we'll have 1 clown after another with threads such as this, every single day. Especially since the show is currently #1 on MAL. |
| It's called fantasy. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| Incredible bait, people should learn from this. Watching people get pedantic and losing their minds over the term "native isekai" is hella funny though. It literally means "feels like isekai, but isn't one", a long-winded way of saying "fantasy world". |
SoumyaUkil73Jan 17, 1:50 AM
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| Jesse what the fuck are you talking about? |
| Third best, right below Ishuzoku Reviewers and Dungeon Meshi. But I'm not sure Frieren is a native isekai: I would have been 100% sure if it had videogame UIs with stats and levels (one magic map that looks "too digital" isn't enough) and something like a harem for the mc, without those things it's just a fantasy inspired by Dragon Quest and D&D. Zarutaku said: Native isekai is an oxymoron, To be fair, the concept of native isekai could make sense since it would be the same logic as space Western (set in the space but with themes and tropes taken from the Western genre). The problem is that it only exists for ragebaiting. |
Reply to SPCTRE
It's just Fantasy (Isekai = Reincarnation). But yeah, I am a Frieren glazer so it absolutely is the best.
| @SPCTRE Isekai just means "different world", nothing about the word itself denotes reincarnation. It's just that reincarnation is the most common way authors use to move characters to that "different world". |
| this has to be a bot post, I refuse to believe this is a real person baiting |
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| I was really surprised, this word came out again. 2026 really? |
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Did you even check the tags? There is no Isekai tag anywhere! |
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| Save your words for your review. I’m sure it will get a lot of “reactions” considering how much sensitive this community is. |
| People cry about "native isekai" as a concept but don't suggest a better word for the subgenre of fantasy that is clearly inspired much more by RPGs than mythology. I think it's because there isn't one and native isekai fits it well |
| I wish Frieren wasn't this popular because what the fuck kind of posts has this board been attracting these last few days |
Reply to Ogami1978
@butahime
Because "Isekai" by definition of the term is a subgenre of fantasy where someone from our world is transported to another world in some shape or form.
It just does not fit for shows like Frieren.
Nothing wrong with just calling Frieren a fantasy series, that genre term served well for decades before "Isekai" was even a thing.
"Native Isekai" is a oxymoron.
Because "Isekai" by definition of the term is a subgenre of fantasy where someone from our world is transported to another world in some shape or form.
It just does not fit for shows like Frieren.
Nothing wrong with just calling Frieren a fantasy series, that genre term served well for decades before "Isekai" was even a thing.
"Native Isekai" is a oxymoron.
| @Ogami1978 As I said in my previous comment, it's not an oxymoron because a similar concept already exists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Western). The problems are that the concept of native isekai: - isn't distinct enough from "fantasy inspired by Dragon Quest and D&D" - it's being used only for ragebaiting |
Reply to Nirinbo
@Ogami1978 As I said in my previous comment, it's not an oxymoron because a similar concept already exists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Western).
The problems are that the concept of native isekai:
- isn't distinct enough from "fantasy inspired by Dragon Quest and D&D"
- it's being used only for ragebaiting
The problems are that the concept of native isekai:
- isn't distinct enough from "fantasy inspired by Dragon Quest and D&D"
- it's being used only for ragebaiting
| @Nirinbo One would almost think both "Western" and "isekai" refer to whole genres with respective suites of conventions and audience expectations and not to the hyperliteral application of a broad premise |
butahimeJan 17, 9:34 PM
"Native isekai".....oh dear, such foolishness~ |
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Reply to butahime
People cry about "native isekai" as a concept but don't suggest a better word for the subgenre of fantasy that is clearly inspired much more by RPGs than mythology. I think it's because there isn't one and native isekai fits it well
| @butahime Isekai is when people get sent to some alternate dimension via dying. No one gets sent to an alternate dimension in Frieren. |
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| The baitest bait. |
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