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Apr 12, 2010 3:23 AM
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It's good right?

Although you might want to spoiler anything else... Heatwave only just started A's
Apr 12, 2010 3:26 AM

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I'm not used to have to manually do the spoiler tag codes, so I didn't think to do it then :3
Apr 12, 2010 4:52 AM

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I'm up to ep 7 of A's and whenever there's battle I'm like:
Apr 12, 2010 4:55 AM

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Just wait til like Episode 10 or 11;
Apr 12, 2010 5:00 AM

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Why couldn't the first series be this good? Is the movie better?
Apr 12, 2010 5:05 AM

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Probably a mixture of character development and a more engaging premise, if you ask me. When the characters are more matured into their roles everything just gels better.

So far, StrikerS seems to be pretty much as good as A's.


I haven't seen the movie though, so no idea there.
Apr 12, 2010 5:15 AM
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I think the first season didn't go all out partly because they weren't sure their take on the magical girl genre would be popular.

When it turned it was they upped everything for the sequels.
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Frankly, the whole thing was a bit of a strange take on the genre. Probably why I actually enjoyed it (the genre usually irks me). It really does feel a lot more at ease in StrikerS than it did with the characters as 9 year olds. Maybe that's just me though.
Apr 12, 2010 6:00 AM

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Okay what the fucking fuck is going on with ep 9.

That scene alone...just...bwah...
Apr 12, 2010 6:11 AM

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Haha that was really, really, awkward.

I'm thankful I watched all this at the wee hours of the morning, rather than risking family walking in on one of the... questionable scenes.
Apr 12, 2010 6:20 AM

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That's nothing, try watching Elfen Lied. It's like tits galore.

But really, what's up with naked transformation scenes?
Apr 12, 2010 6:28 AM

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So I hear. I've actually been pretty sheltered, so to speak, when it comes to anime, so maybe that's why it stuck out for me.

From my limited knowelege of the genre, it's just something common to magical girl animes.
Apr 12, 2010 6:35 AM
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A near unavoidable evil unfortunately.
Apr 12, 2010 6:39 AM

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Is it just pandering to pedophiles or do little girls in Japan really enjoy watching each other get neked? It baffles my mind thinking about why even exists in kid shows.
Apr 12, 2010 6:43 AM

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If there's one thing I've learnt about the Japanese from anime, it's that they think quite differently to how we Westerners do. It's perfectly possible that there's a totally different reason for the whole naked transformation thing that we might not understand really. Maybe it's something about replacing one's normal clothing with the magical armour, and it's meant to be some sort of total transformation from their natural state.

Or, maybe they're a nation of pedos and really weird children.

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AnzekayApr 12, 2010 7:40 AM
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Most Magical girl shows are aimed at men... aged 18-30.

Make of that what you will.

But actually yes... even some shows aimed at tweens will have bouncing boobs and just occasionally outright nudity in them.
Apr 12, 2010 9:32 AM
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From what I've heard, the Nanoha movie basically retcons the first series. It also cuts out all the parts that no one likes and improves the pacing and has more awesome stuff in the vein of A's. I also hear that they cut down on the pedo crap. But unfortunately, they also made Raising Heart's lines less engrish.
Apr 12, 2010 9:37 AM
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Man that and the Haruhi movie as well as the UBW movie... I'm dying to see all of them.
Apr 12, 2010 9:59 AM
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With some free time this afternoon I can finally catch up on my shows and I might even update my list or whatever if I feel like it.

Going to need something to start once I get the last 2 episodes of Cross Game done and catch up on durururuur. On the top of my list I see Seirei no Moribito, and I might give BakaTest a shot. I wouldn't mind trying another action show, but I'm afraid I'm doomed to disappointment. hmhmhm

On the topic of the PA thread: appropriate spoilers and NSFW labels would probably have gone a LONG way toward keeping the thread alive. And look on the bright side, at least it didn't get moved to SE++.
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Holy crap, they couldn't take it anymore. I kinda figured doing two opening posts about two shows that have questionable pedo-like content was probably a bad idea. Hopefully we get the thread back after a while.

Anyhow, I might as well update my list which I haven't touched in almost a year :P, is there anywhere that's actually streaming Nanoha? The way that one poster talked about it basically suggested Gurren Lagaan with magical girls.
Apr 12, 2010 10:20 AM
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no you'll have to grab it.

All three seasons are on BakaBT.

Just remember the first season takes a while to start getting good.
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Torrent takes forever, so I started streaming StrikerS.

Only one I could find was Megavideo. I'd actually forgotten when I hated Megavideo.

4 episoders later.... DAMN IT.

EDIT: I did actually find a stream for the first season a few weeks back, but I prefer to watch stuff on my Macbook so I ended up torrenting them. I'll see if I can find the site in my history.

Oh yeah, would now be a bad time to mention I tend to mostly watch dubs? (Unless they are horrid, I do have some standards).
Apr 12, 2010 10:52 AM
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I really don't see what the problem with dubs would be. It's not like you're watching real actors talk without their lips moving in voices that don't belong to them. It's a cartoon.
Apr 12, 2010 11:21 AM
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Dub voices sound fake to many people... completely shattering the immersion. Most dub VA's sound like they are chosen more for their ability to pronounce words clearly rather than their ability to convey realistic emotions.
Apr 12, 2010 1:29 PM
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so is it wierd that pikapuff hasn't watched anything nanoha related or what?
Apr 12, 2010 1:30 PM
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(you guys are the pedo)
Apr 12, 2010 2:02 PM

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Heatwave111 said:
Can we just have warnings about NSFW content in spoilers and leave it at that? I mean, this whole thing's BS so why bother putting any effort creating guidelines?


Hi guys,

I apologize for any inconvenience my scapegoat of an OP has caused. Guidelines are definitely important for future threads, for the illusion of accountability that it would give the mod.

The OP was not as big an issue as the general "creepiness" of the thread. The reason it was closed was because Irond Will considered the discussions within were obscene, and I hope the following guidelines will help keep our thread afloat in the future.

The title should be clearly marked with a NSFW tag, because any anime or manga discussion will invariably be considered NSFW. OPs should be bare minimum, providing the content in the bottom part of the last OP, which includes recommendations and the like.

We should restrain from in-lining pictures of anime girls in any state of dress, because that would be NSFW. Instead, we should follow the strict guidelines that the D&D Chatters abide by, and provide wholesome acceptable pictures such as crudely drawn dicks.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=14421476#post14421476 (NSFW)

The following comment signifies how the D&D Chatters see our thread:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=14421450#post14421450
We should restrain from using anime-themed avatars so that they would be less creeped out. Yes, this means you Blaze Zero with your creepy Phoenix Wright pic. How inconsiderate of you to use something so blatantly unacceptable.

We should definitely keep the 'lolicon' discussion to a minimum, if not completely avoiding it altogether. We should instead focus on wholesome discussions like in D&D Chat, and talk about common interests such as delicious flat chests instead.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=14282306#post14282306


In conclusion, the anime thread will eventually be back. We should be prepared when the time comes. Thank you.
"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness."
Apr 12, 2010 2:14 PM

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Falx said:
I haven't yet... if you do want to contact someone try Elki... he handled the whole Clawshrimpy thing very well IMO. I'm slightly curious if there was any discussion amongst the mods over whether to lock the thread or not, or if Irond simply locked it in some sort of explosion of passive aggressive nerd rage.

I suppose we can also use this thread to think up some guidelines for the new OP when we get the thread back... something more newbie friendly.


I just posted some guidlelines above, but we should keep thinking of more.

Elki would be a good mod to PM. I PM'd Irond Will but received no response, and I don't expect a response anytime soon either.

There were no open discussions about the anime thread in the mod forum, so either Irond Will talked it over via a different messaging system or he decided to drop the hammer all by himself. I imagine it is the latter.
"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness."
Apr 12, 2010 2:16 PM
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That reads like a threat.

And the post above the one above this one.

Jeez.
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Apr 12, 2010 2:26 PM
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So in other news, has anyone else checked out the subbed camrip of the Haruhi movie?

Yes, I know it's a camrip but Mazui cleaned it up enough that it's actually watchable. And the fact that it was a great movie certainly helped.

They followed the novel to the letter and surpassed it. Kyon's internal monologue near the end was my favorite scene in the entire movie.
Apr 12, 2010 2:26 PM
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You know, linking to that post of Will's about him saying how he likes smaller breasts?

It's pretty much only in anime fandom that people take small breasts to be talking about little girls.

Just pointing that out, because linking to that with the intent of antagonizing and calling him a hypocrite is without a doubt one of the worst ways to go about this!

Also Jeffe is another good choice to PM, I've PM'd him before about concerns and he's a pretty reasonable guy.
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It's pretty much only in anime fandom that people take small breasts to be talking about little girls.

You forgot Australia.


The whole point of that is how silly it is to consider the anime thread NSFW when the D&D Chat thread, which is supposed to be for EVERYONE and supposed to have the strictest modding, has pictures of cocks and open dicussions of breasts and comments about spraying their man juice everywhere.

That's where the hypocrisy comes in.
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Eh, honestly I don't see it as hypocrisy at all because I see the issue as a different matter. Doodles of cocks have been in PA strips after all, and screencaps of anime fanservice is another thing entirely.

But even if it was hypocritical, I can't see how making a big deal of it would be very helpful! Surely the energy involved in hunting down these "hypocrisies" could be used to write and send a reasonable PM to the other mods if Will hasn't said anything, no?
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Eh, honestly I don't see it as hypocrisy at all because I see the issue as a different matter. Doodles of cocks have been in PA strips after all, and screencaps of anime fanservice is another thing entirely.

But even if it was hypocritical, I can't see how making a big deal of it would be very helpful! Surely the energy involved in hunting down these "hypocrisies" could be used to write and send a reasonable PM to the other mods if Will hasn't said anything, no?


I agree with your point. That argument is clearly not being sent out to the mods, it's merely venting at this case of one insular group targetting another. We're all reasonable folk, here.

The PA strip argument particularly doesn't hold, though, because there's been newsposts and such about torrenting music files from Russian sites, but if you mention torrents on the forums that's an infraction. It's a different set of rules.

It's a ridiculous fight when you consider that the whole anime thread was also being persecuted for something so small such as having anime avatars. You don't see that level of hate for any other fanbase, such as the Valkyria Chronicles thread back when everyone had VC avatars. The hardest thing to overcome is preconcieved notions and those who would prop up the decision to close the anime thread because they are sexually aroused by that abuse of power:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=14424141#post14424141
"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness."
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Is that what they do in the chat thread? Make fun of other threads? That is fucking retarded.
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Beel said:
Slicer said:
It's pretty much only in anime fandom that people take small breasts to be talking about little girls.

You forgot Australia.


Get out D:<

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Anzekay said:
New, simply put. I got over merely reading the forums for 5 years and decided I'd post for once. Name here is the same as on the PA forums. Of course, as soon as I post in the Japanimation thread it gets locked a day later.

I seem to remember something about a manga set between A's and StrikerS? If I do recall correctly, would it be prudent to track that down before continuing on to the last anime serries?

Oh, so this is your fault! XD

No, welcome, welcome. ^_^

Yes, there's an A's manga, an A's to StrikerS manga, and a StrikerS manga. None of it is strictly necessary, although they do answer questions you may have about background stuff and helps reinforce and develop characters alot.

Anzekay said:
Frankly, the whole thing was a bit of a strange take on the genre. Probably why I actually enjoyed it (the genre usually irks me). It really does feel a lot more at ease in StrikerS than it did with the characters as 9 year olds. Maybe that's just me though.

It pretends to be a magical girl series, but really it's shounen-esque.

And then StrikerS turns it into mecha.

blkmage said:
From what I've heard, the Nanoha movie basically retcons the first series. It also cuts out all the parts that no one likes and improves the pacing and has more awesome stuff in the vein of A's. I also hear that they cut down on the pedo crap. But unfortunately, they also made Raising Heart's lines less engrish.

Not really a retcon, more an AU.
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I tried drafting a PM regarding Irond... but I just keep sounding petty and immature to myself.

If someone else wants to do it feel free, other real life issues have made it so I'm not in the right frame of mind to present a reasoned response to the situation.
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Well, since he's such a douche when it comes to anime, it'll have to be a sideways approach. If we make a new anime thread with "stricter guidelines" or whatever, he needs to be convinced that it'll be enough that he basically has no reason to deny it without being totally unreasonable. And if he is, then I guess it's time to ask other mods.

I'd write something up- I'm used to this shit- but I'm far too new a poster to want to send something to a mod as anal as he seems to be.
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Oh no no no we're not even considering talking to Irond.

He's utterly biased against anime in general.

If we do contact someone it would be either Elki, Jeffe or if they say they can't do anything about it... Tube.

I hope we don't have to talk to Tube though... he's very pragmatic and since we're such a small percentage of the forum community he might just decide we're too much trouble.
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Oh. Regarding. Right, I misread that.

Carry on.
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http://hiff.org/program/index.php/films/detail/1808

oh hey i'm trying to see what to watch at the srping HIFF and oh lookie. hm, i don't think the anime thread ever talked about this one or how amazing it is i guess i should go see it
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http://hiff.org/program/index.php/films/detail/1826

and yes i'm going to watch one piece shut up already.

but should I check out geisha girl?

http://hiff.org/program/index.php/films/detail/1806

I liked machine girl and those guys made this i guess?
Apr 13, 2010 4:43 AM
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Man Robogeisha has the scariest trailer I've ever heard.
Apr 13, 2010 4:56 AM
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uh hm. i didn't check the trailer. now i don't wanna
Apr 13, 2010 5:00 AM
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Man you should... it's just the voiceover... oh man I think I heard that voice coming from under my bed when I was a kid... D:
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What the shit is that.
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Seriously. The trailer did obscene things to my eyes. What the hell is that movie.
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it's 2am and i'm at work alone. no i'm not watching scary trailer voice
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