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Sep 24, 2012 10:40 AM

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@koleare: not sure if you want to mock me or not =/ ...
But anyway, we can hope for a 2nd season,
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=492991

Sales aren't really bad, 4k sales for the first vol. If it keeps managing the sale like this for later vol, then 2nd is possible. But we have to wait for at least half a year ...
Sep 24, 2012 11:11 AM

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Ignoring all the fighting on here I'm going to go ahead and say we will get a second season from the looks of the ending. I can also back this up by pointing to Dog Days which left us on a similar cliffhanger and aired the same time a year later (now).

If we don't get one then we simply don't, enough said. Though, it could come back in the way Last Exile by appearing years later.
Sep 24, 2012 12:39 PM

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Yeah, I was like Takeda is left.

Then the epilogue :D
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."


Sep 24, 2012 6:34 PM

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Monkey should be the monkey king, lolol.. his hair reminds me of it..
i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^

Sep 24, 2012 8:12 PM
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just some quick thoughts here:

- i do not like harems (but i still watch em) mostly because of awful MCs
- i am not a fan of loli
- i do not like gender bending anime, especially sengoku era stuff

and yet i rated this show 7/10 because it somehow manages to take 3 things i don't like and mix them in just the right proportion to make an entertaining and yet not mindless show. i'd be really pleased to see this get a second season.

i'm with you bros in spirit.
Sep 25, 2012 12:20 AM

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@theamato
It certainly is different from the typical harem anime, and thats why i thought it deserves a second season aha but well have to see how sales progress some say its gonna get it xD
i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^

Sep 25, 2012 12:28 AM
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I wouldn't mind a second season, wouldn't get your hopes up though.
Sep 25, 2012 6:15 PM

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Sales went up to 4,800 first volume, good news good news.
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Sep 26, 2012 1:00 PM

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i really hope they make a season 2 for this one, and i think that's probably going to happen because of the after credits...
Sep 26, 2012 5:39 PM

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I seriously don't know how Japs can make 2nd seasons for some series and not others specially when those others are making better sales. Take for example Densetsu no Yūsha no Densetsu which have sold over 4million. Not thousands, millions. Yet we have yet to see a 2nd season and instead they have series like Phi Brain(which from what I hear is 'so-so') already going to a 3rd season. And you wonder why people are posting up threads stating the anime industry ain't got long before they go bust. They're going bust coz their marketing department don't know how economics work.
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Sep 27, 2012 5:42 AM

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Ypu can tell from the ending..
that there is a high chance for a sequel! ^_^
Sep 27, 2012 7:35 AM

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tokumei-ko said:
I seriously don't know how Japs can make 2nd seasons for some series and not others specially when those others are making better sales.

From wiki
Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term controversial or offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.

I have seen people got into trouble by use of this term. If you do not mean to slur, please be watchful of what this word may mean in addition to what you already know.


tokumei-ko said:

Take for example Densetsu no Yūsha no Densetsu which have sold over 4million. Not thousands, millions. Yet we have yet to see a 2nd season and instead they have series like Phi Brain(which from what I hear is 'so-so') already going to a 3rd season.


The anime of DenDen sold over 4 million? I need the source please.
My source in Japan told me that the sale of DenDen's BD/DVD averaged barely over 1000. A poor record that would not merit any 2nd season.

As for Phi Brain, the anime got the full backup support of NHK, the public broadcaster who produced and broadcast the anime, so business concern (making a return from investment) is not a concern at all for them.


tokumei-ko said:

And you wonder why people are posting up threads stating the anime industry ain't got long before they go bust. They're going bust coz their marketing department don't know how economics work.

I just wish it is this simple!!


What I see is almost none gave answer to one of the questions asked by the initial poster, namely "Enough story for a season 2?" and I will help answer this here: The anime so far covers up to volume 4 of the light novel and currently 9 volumes have been released, so even if they want to do a 2nd
season right now it has enough stock to do so.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Sep 27, 2012 11:57 AM

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ijen said:
according to the sales there may not be a second season.as you can see romantic harems are adored by a limited circle of teenage boys,so of course the sells are low.the only harem anime i know that got more than two of more seasons are hayate the combat butler and familiar of zero.thats for their art,comedy and story.so the chances are no 70%.
even if they do a release that won't be soon
highschool dxd as well getting a season 2 , but i think is mainly for the excessive oppai
Sep 27, 2012 12:07 PM

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AnimeIsReality said:
ijen said:
according to the sales there may not be a second season.as you can see romantic harems are adored by a limited circle of teenage boys,so of course the sells are low.the only harem anime i know that got more than two of more seasons are hayate the combat butler and familiar of zero.thats for their art,comedy and story.so the chances are no 70%.
even if they do a release that won't be soon
highschool dxd as well getting a season 2 , but i think is mainly for the excessive oppai


Sekirei got a 2nd season. Rosario + vampire got season
i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^

Sep 27, 2012 12:36 PM

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symbv said:
tokumei-ko said:
I seriously don't know how Japs can make 2nd seasons for some series and not others specially when those others are making better sales.

From wiki
Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term controversial or offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.

I have seen people got into trouble by use of this term. If you do not mean to slur, please be watchful of what this word may mean in addition to what you already know.


tokumei-ko said:

Take for example Densetsu no Yūsha no Densetsu which have sold over 4million. Not thousands, millions. Yet we have yet to see a 2nd season and instead they have series like Phi Brain(which from what I hear is 'so-so') already going to a 3rd season.


The anime of DenDen sold over 4 million? I need the source please.
My source in Japan told me that the sale of DenDen's BD/DVD averaged barely over 1000. A poor record that would not merit any 2nd season.

As for Phi Brain, the anime got the full backup support of NHK, the public broadcaster who produced and broadcast the anime, so business concern (making a return from investment) is not a concern at all for them.


tokumei-ko said:

And you wonder why people are posting up threads stating the anime industry ain't got long before they go bust. They're going bust coz their marketing department don't know how economics work.

I just wish it is this simple!!


What I see is almost none gave answer to one of the questions asked by the initial poster, namely "Enough story for a season 2?" and I will help answer this here: The anime so far covers up to volume 4 of the light novel and currently 9 volumes have been released, so even if they want to do a 2nd
season right now it has enough stock to do so.


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Sep 27, 2012 1:28 PM

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Takana_no_Hana said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29

You need to learn the definition of harem i think.
Pretty much of these guys here said are true, 2 girls share a love interest with a guy = triangle love, 3 and above = harem whether a guy sets his eyes on only 1 girl.

Clannad is a harem anime ( not clannad AS), SAO has harem as a sub-genre ( later on you will find kirito standing in between a bunch of girls who likes him), etc.

Many people misunderstand the definition of harem:

Indecisive main character, end up with many girls called harem ending (normally the case) --> so everyone thinks this way: if a guy only likes 1 girl, even though there are many girls in the show like him. --> harem, true, put only a part of it.
Or mc can chose from his harem stock a girl he likes.


About Harem, basically what Takananohana said above. And one thing I would like to say to those who claim they don't watch harems: By the broad definition above, you have probably watched a bunch of "harem" anime without realizing it.

For example, in Maison Ikkoku and Ranma 1/2 we definitely see 3 (or more) girls showed love interest with the MC. But how many people think they are "harem anime"?

This brings into the issue of the ambiguity of the term "harem anime". Apparently we can have a certain level of "harem-ness" in an anme without thinking it is a "harem anime". This may depend on how much focus is put on the love relationships between the MC and the various girls. I believe this is where the disagreements may arise. For anime like Infinite Stratos the focus is clearly on the hub-like relationship between the MC and the girls, so everyone agrees it is a "harem anime". For anime like Ranma 1/2 or Maison Ikkoku, the focus is disproportionately between the MC and the main heroine. And for Ranma 1/2 and Hayate, the main genre is comedy that is often not a romantic kind, and this weakens the case for them to be a "harem anime" in many viewer's eyes. SAO and Nobuna are similar because the focus in both anime is not the hub-like relationship between the MC and the many girls around him.

Personally I only call anime like Infinite Stratos, ToLoveRu or NakaImo, where the girls clearly loves the MC and have their associated behavior like jealousy, acting lovey-dovey, embarrassed, daydreaming or active approach etc heavily focused, "harem anime" while anime like SAO or Nobuna I hesitate to call them "harem anime" even though a certain harem relationship is formed surrounding the MC. SAO and Nobuna are anime with harem element but not "harem anime" to me.

And I notice some people say they don't like harem because the MC is indecisive. What I want to say is that by nature a "harem anime" demands the MC not to make decision early so that we can have a story for the whole length of the series, but it is not as if the MC in every "harem anime" does not make a decision at the end - Mashiroiro Symphony has a clear ending which is non-harem for example. That said I would agree that most of the time the MC needs to be indecisive in a "harem anime". MC in an anime that is not "harem anime" but with certain level of harem element, like SAO or Nobuna, is quite often not indecisive.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Sep 27, 2012 7:22 PM

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symbv said:
Takana_no_Hana said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29

You need to learn the definition of harem i think.
Pretty much of these guys here said are true, 2 girls share a love interest with a guy = triangle love, 3 and above = harem whether a guy sets his eyes on only 1 girl.

Clannad is a harem anime ( not clannad AS), SAO has harem as a sub-genre ( later on you will find kirito standing in between a bunch of girls who likes him), etc.

Many people misunderstand the definition of harem:

Indecisive main character, end up with many girls called harem ending (normally the case) --> so everyone thinks this way: if a guy only likes 1 girl, even though there are many girls in the show like him. --> harem, true, put only a part of it.
Or mc can chose from his harem stock a girl he likes.


About Harem, basically what Takananohana said above. And one thing I would like to say to those who claim they don't watch harems: By the broad definition above, you have probably watched a bunch of "harem" anime without realizing it.

For example, in Maison Ikkoku and Ranma 1/2 we definitely see 3 (or more) girls showed love interest with the MC. But how many people think they are "harem anime"?

This brings into the issue of the ambiguity of the term "harem anime". Apparently we can have a certain level of "harem-ness" in an anme without thinking it is a "harem anime". This may depend on how much focus is put on the love relationships between the MC and the various girls. I believe this is where the disagreements may arise. For anime like Infinite Stratos the focus is clearly on the hub-like relationship between the MC and the girls, so everyone agrees it is a "harem anime". For anime like Ranma 1/2 or Maison Ikkoku, the focus is disproportionately between the MC and the main heroine. And for Ranma 1/2 and Hayate, the main genre is comedy that is often not a romantic kind, and this weakens the case for them to be a "harem anime" in many viewer's eyes. SAO and Nobuna are similar because the focus in both anime is not the hub-like relationship between the MC and the many girls around him.

Personally I only call anime like Infinite Stratos, ToLoveRu or NakaImo, where the girls clearly loves the MC and have their associated behavior like jealousy, acting lovey-dovey, embarrassed, daydreaming or active approach etc heavily focused, "harem anime" while anime like SAO or Nobuna I hesitate to call them "harem anime" even though a certain harem relationship is formed surrounding the MC. SAO and Nobuna are anime with harem element but not "harem anime" to me.

And I notice some people say they don't like harem because the MC is indecisive. What I want to say is that by nature a "harem anime" demands the MC not to make decision early so that we can have a story for the whole length of the series, but it is not as if the MC in every "harem anime" does not make a decision at the end - Mashiroiro Symphony has a clear ending which is non-harem for example. That said I would agree that most of the time the MC needs to be indecisive in a "harem anime". MC in an anime that is not "harem anime" but with certain level of harem element, like SAO or Nobuna, is quite often not indecisive.


can we get off the harem topic? this thread was made to discuss a possible season 2 ;O
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Sep 28, 2012 1:34 AM

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Trunkies said:

can we get off the harem topic? this thread was made to discuss a possible season 2 ;O

I also wrote about the sesaon 2 possibility here
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=493711&show=60#msg17328109
Did you happen to read it and do you have anything to add to the discussion?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Sep 28, 2012 10:59 AM

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I defiantly think there's going to be a season 2. He never even got his kiss.
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There will dfinitely be a season 2 , just look the last 2 min of last episode after the credits , there is a new army attacking with a new general with red hairs , i bet she is the new enemy .
So its only a matter of time , will hv to wait .
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There will dfinitely be a season 2 , just look the last 2 min of last episode after the credits , there is a new army attacking with a new general with red hairs , i bet she is the new enemy .
So its only a matter of time , will hv to wait .
Oda nobuna , Hagure yuusha , Campione season 2 ...


I will hope you are right, but a setup does not mean a 2nd season. It means an intention to continue, but if proper funding is not found, either through sales or broadcaster backing as symbv mentioned with Phi Brain, intention doesn't mean it will actually continue.

Anywho, I think we just need to sit back, relax, and look out for the next season. Also buying the anime won't hurt. Thanks for an interesting thread, even if it was a bit off topic at times.
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It was aha if only people would watch and realize how good of an anime this is instead of phi brain witch in my opinion didnt deserve a second season :/
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Nov 10, 2012 10:29 AM

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Well, I won't get my hopes up because most anime out there just leave you with an open ending, however, if a second season does come out, I'm definitely watching it!


Nov 16, 2012 9:20 AM

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i hope there will be a season 2 on this anime..
Nov 21, 2012 12:17 AM

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Not that I hate Nyaruko in anyways, but I don't like the fact it got 2x sale than this
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Nov 21, 2012 2:36 PM

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I would love to see a season 2, the ending implies it, Saru and Nobuna still haven't kissed, and they have like 5 more LN volumes to cover so the material is there. Yes yes it all comes down to sales but at the end of the day the sales, much like the show itself, were far better than most expected. I like how the show diverges from the LN a bit and is focusing on just Saru and Nobuna, not putting Saru in all sorts of unnessecary ecchi moments with the other girls. Although a WELL done love triangle with Mitsuhide or that pink-haired douche could spice things up. I think making this series 24 episodes would fit it perfectly since they crammed so much into the first 12, i'd love to see the series end with Saru returning to his own time...and then, strangely enough, during next day at school, a new girl named Nobuna transfers into his class.... <3
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That would be quite the interesting plot haha
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That would create way too many plot holes.

But I wasn't really a big fan of Mitsuhide, she looks too much like Tsuruya. I thought at first the fan girl had more potential, or even the big breasted general.

But when it comes to it, I think the Lolis Goemon and Hanbei were better than most of the cast... Except for Nobuna of course.

oh yeah, I am very thankful that Hanzou wasn't made into a girl.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-03-03/oda-nobuna-no-yabo-6th-bd/it-not-over-yet

Saw this on ANN as well as in my own BD copy. If it wasn't plausible enough with good overall sales and the cliffhanger ending, it looks like we have one more hint at a pausible upcoming second season. I am really looking forward to where they will take the story and what they can improve upon from the first season. I would also like to see a dub someday.
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I wouldn't mind a second season, This show was pretty enjoyable for me though I am easily entertained. If there were a second season hopefully they clear things up like how he got there in the first place (unless I missed something..) It would also wouldnt hurt for him to change into clothing that's more appropriate for the time period..
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a season 2 is a must! the way episode 12 ended its basically announcing a next season. not to mention we ain't seen any kissing yet.
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Season 2? Do I need to explain it? Just by watching this anime you must be wanting the season 2 right away. It is astonishing anime for anime that I did not expect to be great!
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May 7, 2013 1:47 PM

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Season 2 is necessary for understad how SARU came to the past!!
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SEASON 2 NOW PLEASE!!!
May 18, 2013 3:59 AM

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And I wonder why does sh*t like Rosario + Vampire get a season 2 when an actual decent harem with a strong plot and characters fail to get a season 2.
May 28, 2013 12:44 PM

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i don`t care if people here hates harem or what so ever but i just want a s2 for this series and i know we all want one

*prays*
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And I wonder why does sh*t like Rosario + Vampire get a season 2 when an actual decent harem with a strong plot and characters fail to get a season 2.

Completely agree about the anime, but the manga is actually good. (Regarding R+V)

Looks like the LNs are finally getting some love at least. The translators are making some progress over at baka-tsuki.
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And I wonder why does sh*t like Rosario + Vampire get a season 2 when an actual decent harem with a strong plot and characters fail to get a season 2.
Well R+V is just a bad adaptation.. The manga is awesome. But yeah, Oda was surprisingly enjoyable, hoping for a 2nd season
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i dont know, and actually dont care about the sales,
JUST MAKE SEASON 2 ALLREADY!!!!
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i dont know, and actually dont care about the sales,
JUST MAKE SEASON 2 ALLREADY!!!!

If one doesn't make money on the first season, why would there be a second season?
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i dont know, and actually dont care about the sales,
JUST MAKE SEASON 2 ALLREADY!!!!

If one doesn't make money on the first season, why would there be a second season?


Because 90% of us didn't even buy the original DVD/BD of most animes, we only waiting for fansubs to subs them and watch it for free xD
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So, concretely, anyone got any information about a second season? Or this is just a thread for speculations and hopes? (Personnally, I hope there will be one)
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Sales itself wasn't bad, but not enough for making season 2(I saw the old twit from one of the staffs). You know, this anime's art quality was pretty high(=more budget=high break-even point). I don't think season 2 is gonna happen.
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theamato said:

- i do not like gender bending anime, especially sengoku era stuff


Wouldn't it be gender bender only if the character is originally one sex, but somehow changes into the other? Oda isn't exactly gender bender since he travels to an alternate universe, where Nobuna has been a girl from the very beginning.
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I don't know, didn't someone here say sales were around 3,800? I don't call myself an expert or anything close to it, so I could be totally wrong, but I thought 3,000+ was actually good for anime sales. Not the best, but depending on the budget they had for the anime, enough for some shows.
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http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=2010464#post2010464

According to this site, it sold a little under 4800 bluray/DVD's. Which isn't terrible, but it's probably not high enough for the bean counters to justify making a second season.

That's not to say they might just decide to do it anyway. But I'm sure the anime studios are also hit by a slow economy, so if the show doesn't sell extremely well, it's hard to justify spending money to make a product no one's going to buy.

Incidentally, this is the same thing with Hollywood movies, that's why you see a ton of remakes, reboots, and sequels. They're too afraid to spend big bucks (tens to hundreds of millions of dollars, which is certainly nothing to sneeze at) to make a movie that may not be interesting enough to attract moviegoers. If you spent $100 million dollars on a movie, and it only makes $38 million in theaters, would you want to make a sequel for it? Now if that movie makes $300 million, then yes, they're more likely to greenlight a sequel.

Like Hollywood, some anime production companies are suffering from slow DVD/Bluray sales partly because of the economy, partly because of piracy, and partly because no one wants to buy a crappy anime series on disc. And I suppose more so in Japan because anime is much more expensive than in the US. I think they pay about $50 for 2-3 episodes, whereas in the US you can buy entire shows for about that price.
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That was a surprisingly good show, it deserves a second season. Hope it'll get it someday.
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EratiK said:
That was a surprisingly good show, it deserves a second season. Hope it'll get it someday.


I agree, it steers away from typical tropes and actually is interesting compered to most harem shows
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