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Jul 28, 2009 12:47 AM

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Ahhh, I like Cal too (she's cute) but I really can't see Reiji and her ending up together. They give off a nice brother and sister relationship to me. I'm am so rooting for Elen..they even had a mock date together, kekekeke...
Aug 3, 2009 5:47 PM

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Well, the manipulation by Claudia and Scythe is going as scheduled like in the game.
Sore wa himitsu desu.
Aug 19, 2009 5:48 AM

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I was touched at first that Cal made Zwei cry and was courageous enough to admit to going to Zwei's world but creeped out about Zwei seeing her naked and even sleeping with her when she came to his bed. Reminded me of the movie "The Professional with Jean Reno"

Finally Isaac is shot by Claudia....TRAITOR he was.

Oct 11, 2009 7:06 PM

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Damn. If this series of events continue, I think that something epic will happen to Zwei in the end. Cal was epic in this episode aswell. Loved their little conversation in the bathroom. <3

Either he's going to die or someone really close to him will.
How the fuck did that Scythe Master got the picture of Zwei in the room with Mutoro?

Damn, Ms. McCunnen is being outsmarted my the Scythe Master. SO many misunderstandings.
Nov 1, 2010 2:24 PM

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I knew that there was something fishy when Zwei found the razor in the room.
Why would you leave evidence in a crime scene?
Feb 4, 2011 2:42 PM

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Belum_Nabum said:

Finally Isaac is shot by Claudia....TRAITOR he was.


I dont think Issac was a traitor i mean in the end wasn't he saying to the head guy i think Ray is his name that he was doing it all for him or something? also Ein is the one that made it look like Inferno was trying to snipe the Japanese so that means Scythe is setting up Claudia like she did to him, well anyways thats what i got out of it. The Confession scene was sweet, i'm starting to like Cal more than Ein only because she has more personality and Ein keeps protecting that stupid bastard Scythe.
Feb 4, 2011 2:42 PM

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Belum_Nabum said:

Finally Isaac is shot by Claudia....TRAITOR he was.


I dont think Issac was a traitor i mean in the end wasn't he saying to the head guy i think Ray is his name that he was doing it all for him or something? also Ein is the one that made it look like Inferno was trying to snipe the Japanese so that means Scythe is setting up Claudia like she did to him, well anyways thats what i got out of it. The Confession scene was sweet, i'm starting to like Cal more than Ein only because she has more personality and Ein keeps protecting that stupid bastard Scythe.
Mar 4, 2011 2:03 PM

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Cal seemed to have brought back the Reiji who wanted a normal life without this assassin crap. I just wonder how it'll affect his performance now
Apr 8, 2011 3:06 AM
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Reiji is a pedophile.

Don't get mad.

You know he is.
Mar 7, 2012 8:15 PM

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WHAT THE FRICK. What is up with the Reiji and Cal pairing. I absolutely despite it, and her as well. Eren needs to come back, PRONTO. Wow, this anime was a 9 up until Cal came into the situation....
Mar 15, 2012 9:37 PM

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Since I've never played the games I'm just going to keep telling myself that Reiji's love for Cal is brotherly/fatherly since she looks like she's freaking thirteen and Reiji looks older than seventeen.

Nothingsexualhappenednothingsexualhappenednothingsexualhappenednothingsexualhappened I don't care what happened in the VN.
Mar 16, 2012 2:58 AM

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Dude Cal is so easy going I like that shes with Zwei now. And you guys are getting the wrong idea, I don't think its anything romantic. More like brother sister love yenno? xD Anyways, a dream ending would be Zwei and Ein living together with Cal but I can see a tragic ending for Cal. :(
Mar 31, 2012 7:59 PM

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Claudia killed the black guy.
What a surprise. I didnt expect that.
Apr 7, 2012 8:03 PM

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Cal > Elen ALL DAY. HAHAHA SCREW that loser Elen! WHOOOOOOOOO!!
Jun 27, 2012 11:33 AM

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is it just me that was pretty taken aback by the whole Cal and Reji thing, don't get me wrong it was clear there was a strong bond, but it almost felt like Reji had kind of like a little sister, protective... I get the whole 'you made me feel human' etc etc but then she just gets out of the shower and then the scene after where it insinuates that something MIGHT have happened... i was like D: personally aha.....

But yeah the episode as a whole was kinda meh for me.... it was the first episode where I kinda drifted off, and had to re-focus myself sometimes, I won't hold one episode against it just hope that I don't find myself doing it more, and it stays at the pace it has previously because I have been really enjoying this series!
Jun 30, 2012 11:00 PM

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wait did he actually do it with Cal? I know he is all she has but ....

meh. seemed a tad inappropriate despite their being something.

I freaking can't stand Scythe and want that guy dead already. Claudia is too reckless. Getting rid of Isaac is one thing, but they are ignoring the fact Scythe is stirring all this shit up.
Jul 26, 2012 10:34 PM

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I'm liking the ReijixCal, maybe because I know she's going to grow up.

I think Reiji is a player and he wants both Cal and Erin and Claudia(for sex).

Anyways really liked the episode, 5/5.
Sep 9, 2012 7:31 PM

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JUST as Cal was starting to grow on me, too...

Not surprising, but still.
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Oct 15, 2012 12:22 PM
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I got a big "The Professional" vibe from this episode.

The Scythemaster has, just please has to die soon
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Nov 4, 2012 2:32 PM
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Aright episode
The hell? Rejji and Cal romance?
Preview looks great.
3/5
Jan 3, 2013 7:30 PM

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Really strong emotions this episode. To see Reiji actually cry... he actually cried, that same Zwei... wow. Those moment between Cal and Reiji were really touching. I don't blame the guy though, Cal is precious after all. That "we have all the time in the world" before departing was just too ominous. I have a feeling I'm going to cry during this series too...

On Inferno's note, Claudia was really bold this episode, and a really nice cover by Reiji too (leaving the 5 mil at Wisemel's house). I just felt REALLY, REALLY bad for Wisemel though. That look he had before he died... man. I'm pretty sure he just had the sniper there to cover Inferno in case Godo's group got hostile, just to gain some merit. He didn't really deserve that. Oh well, at least Claudia exacted her revenge and climbed to 2nd highest rank within the organization, let her be happy while it lasts (Scythe has something in store for her).

Lizzie gets Reiji into shit again... how careless.

Hang in there!

5/5
Jan 14, 2013 8:37 PM

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Sythe getting revenge on Claudia! XD

"I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika
Apr 23, 2013 4:51 PM
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noteDhero said:
Another blah episode. What it comes down to is that I am disgusted by Cal, so every minute she's on screen, I just get bored and my mind starts wandering. Claudia shooting Issac was awesome, and I got my answer regarding Lizzie--she's just a dog and doesn't think about anything--so that's something. I just can't believe what's his name got tricked by Scythe so easily, but whatever.

If everything gets exposed by the end of this chapter, I don't see how Cal will be able to forgive Reiji for lying to her.


Ugh same. For some reason, I just can't stand Cal...I dislike characters like her. I know she's not a bad person at all, she's friendly and positive about things, but still. I liked the conversation between her and Reiji, but at the same time, I dislike Cal even more after it. She realizes that Reiji hates himself for being an assassin and wants to live a normal life. She knows that he goes through a lot of internal conflict and doesn't want to ruin her life, YET she still says she wants to follow after him? What? Were you listening to what he said and what you said? I find it a little contradicting that she can think deeply and reasonably, but at the same time, be so naive. Her wanting to become an assassin would just hurt Reiji more and he would feel guilty for that.

Anyways, interesting that Claudia just shot Isaac like that. Although I don't like her much either, that was a pretty bold move, though she was obviously confident that it would all work out. Regarding Lizzie, it's nice to see the different in mentality between her and Reiji, although both of them work under Claudia. One questions and the other doesn't (as much). And I agree that Cal would probably not forgive Reiji for that...as much as she wants to be with him, Judy was the first one that saved her after all.
Sep 24, 2013 3:49 AM

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I must be the minority because I really like Cal's character. Cal pretty much personifies the humanity that Reiji lost when he started to become an assassin. It seems like a lot of people here don't quite understand Cal's history nor perspective. She abandoned her seemingly terrible family and went off to live with her "sister", and when her "sister" died she already seems to have lost everything. But since Reiji is able to take her in and even treat her as family, as depicted when he protects her from Issac, she sees him as someone who can finally the family that she has been looking for.

With all these factors included, wouldn't it make sense for her to want to stick by Reiji? Especially when she really wouldn't have nothing left if Reiji were to tell her to go make her own future when she's still at that stage of youth.

Anyways as I was saying, I really did like this episode as it showed how much Reiji lost his own humanity during the time skip. Looks like Eren is back to being a puppet again.
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Nov 3, 2013 1:03 AM
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Reiji x Cal + 1
Dec 25, 2013 7:53 PM
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Was thinking this romance was kinda creepy until i realized that Zwei is 16. But that seems pretty weird to me, he looks like he's in his twenties, and acts like it too. Isaac not bleeding when he got shot was annoying, but I'm glad he finally died. I have a feeling this might end up in Zwei having to kill Ein.
Jan 16, 2014 7:26 PM

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So Scythe want to make Claudia fall. Without Reiji, Claudia is a powerless woman.

I have one weird theory. What if Cal was a double agent? He always say that she have a great potential and she is dangerously close to Reiji, it almost seem anormal.

Ein in the preview say that she is not Elen. I don't think that Reiji can shoot on Ein, but could Ein shoot on Reiji? She have always been colder than him.
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Jan 28, 2014 2:21 AM

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I wish Cal and Reiji's relationship deepens... not in a romantic way ofc.. I think Reiji thinks of her as his little sister or something and that's perfect.. Cal might be the only way for Reiji to go back.. he doesn't need to be an assassin to be cool and awesome.

that Scythe should die already
Jan 29, 2014 5:45 AM

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Man, those emotions. Cal is great.. the way she reminds Reiji his humanity. That relationship they share is really something special, like big brother is caring for small sister. But at the same time she is making him vulnerable, he hesitates more now. That plot Scythe is scheming from shadows.. Slowly, step by step, everything is going to hell. I bet Inferno crumbles soon and everything goes haywire after that.
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Jan 29, 2014 6:08 AM

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Ugh same. For some reason, I just can't stand Cal...I dislike characters like her. I know she's not a bad person at all, she's friendly and positive about things, but still. I liked the conversation between her and Reiji, but at the same time, I dislike Cal even more after it. She realizes that Reiji hates himself for being an assassin and wants to live a normal life. She knows that he goes through a lot of internal conflict and doesn't want to ruin her life, YET she still says she wants to follow after him? What? Were you listening to what he said and what you said? I find it a little contradicting that she can think deeply and reasonably, but at the same time, be so naive. Her wanting to become an assassin would just hurt Reiji more and he would feel guilty for that.

You have to realize that Cal doesn't think like that. She fears to be alone... again. She finally found someone who cares for her and it makes sense she don't want to lose that safety, no matter what. She is willing to become an assassin just to be able to be with him and in fact she is the only one who can make him change back to the normal, she is someone who reminded him of his emotions (even Ein wasn't able to do that for him). Their bond is mutual, they are important to each other and you can call that selfish but really I don't see it that way.
Mar 29, 2014 8:23 PM

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Pretty interesting episode! Some quite lovely development as well so let's see what's next!
May 9, 2014 8:05 AM

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Reiji actually cried. Hoping Reiji and Cal stay together. They need each other.
Jul 10, 2014 5:00 AM

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ooo shit Reji is now a lolicon
sleeps with his loli
HE EVEN WENT intot the bathroom with her nakes I know I'm not he only one that saw that
and how did they get that picture I guess the hotel >.> camera
i wanna see reji and elen meet again I think there's going to be a fire fight though betweeen them
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Aug 10, 2016 5:09 AM

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Cal's deathflags just got raised very high.
Feb 9, 2017 7:50 PM

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That's sad, I think that it's getting more and more closer to Cal's death. She is such a good girl, I don't want that to be happen. :(
Mar 26, 2017 8:50 AM

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(rewatching)

That Scythe scheming. He's playing all sides for fools.
Jul 23, 2017 1:54 PM

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He has loli in his bed. I'm calling police right now!
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Apr 16, 2018 7:51 PM

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Cal is so damn cute. She is prob the best thing to happen to this show imo. Elen is just a brainwashed idiot. She had her chance to run with Reiji but she fucked up and went back to Scythe and even sacrificed her life for Scythe. Fuck off Elen, hope she gets killed tbh
Apr 12, 2019 1:21 AM
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just finished this episode and boiiii I hate it like am I the only one disturbed by Cal and Reiji? ReijiXEin is the best they should be together already.

May 2, 2020 4:32 PM

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Claudia shooting Wisemen was a great twist. Still not a big of Cal but...

camerawr528 said:
I must be the minority because I really like Cal's character. Cal pretty much personifies the humanity that Reiji lost when he started to become an assassin. It seems like a lot of people here don't quite understand Cal's history nor perspective. She abandoned her seemingly terrible family and went off to live with her "sister", and when her "sister" died she already seems to have lost everything. But since Reiji is able to take her in and even treat her as family, as depicted when he protects her from Issac, she sees him as someone who can finally the family that she has been looking for.

With all these factors included, wouldn't it make sense for her to want to stick by Reiji? Especially when she really wouldn't have nothing left if Reiji were to tell her to go make her own future when she's still at that stage of youth.

Anyways as I was saying, I really did like this episode as it showed how much Reiji lost his own humanity during the time skip. Looks like Eren is back to being a puppet again.

Realizing this about her made me appreciate her a bit more.

I do hope the show ends with a bang because the last four or five episodes have been pretty mediocre. This episode might be the start of the show improving again though.
Jan 27, 2021 11:34 AM

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Wow, another stupid ending to an episode. How the hell did Scythe Master (still can't get over that brilliant name) fool Shiga? First of all, Reiji was holding a gun in the photo, yet the cause of death was a razor slitting his throat, a razor that was nowhere to be seen. The methods don't match in the slightest. I know that Reiji picked up the razor and in the VN it supposedly explains that they checked the prints on it, but the anime never even hints at this. Secondly, why isn't he questioning how Scythe got access to that photo? It didn't look like security camera footage, and none were visible when the room was shown in episode 14, so presumably it was from some kind of hidden camera, which means that it must have been set up in advance. A little suspicious, isn't it? It's still an entertaining show, but just dragged down by characters suddenly becoming far more stupid for the sake of contrived plot progression.
Jan 11, 2023 3:05 AM

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Funfact:
For those wondering he actually does do it with Cal right after the shower scene, it was cut out of the anime but is still canon.
Source:
The original visual novel "PHANTOM OF INFERNO"

There are even game CGs of the scenes multiple of them. No need to thank me just a man of science helping to elevate our collective consciousness. o7
Casuals and Normies Destroyed, cope and seethe.
Jan 13, 2023 3:45 AM
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Darken365 said:
Funfact:
For those wondering he actually does do it with Cal right after the shower scene, it was cut out of the anime but is still canon.
Source:
The original visual novel "PHANTOM OF INFERNO"

There are even game CGs of the scenes multiple of them. No need to thank me just a man of science helping to elevate our collective consciousness. o7
Casuals and Normies Destroyed, cope and seethe.

Wow,  you are so dark, edgy and cool and as expected your list is set to private...
Mar 12, 2023 8:04 AM

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I was all for Reiji x Elen before the timeskip, but at the same time, Reiji seems to have a better and more loving relationship with Cal he ever did with Elen, which was mostly one-sided. Elen is unfortunately unable to say anything other than "Yes Master" as of late, which is a bit of a handicap.

So there were cut scenes in the anime? Disappointing, but not surprising. Televised adaptations of visual novels tend to lean more on the spineless side, hence the censorship or skipping H-scenes. I've yet to see a VN adaptation that doesn't do that in some capacity.



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Mar 17, 2023 1:00 AM

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Saytr said:

Wow,  you are so dark, edgy and cool and as expected your list is set to private...

Setting your account to private is the smart thing to do when people literally get cancelled for k-on.
Also I'm one of those types who are protective of hidden gems. 
Further, I wasn't actually going for edgy I was going for funny but I suppose I dialed it up a bit too much.
Also Also the VN is super old and super tame so this isn't really edgy. I'm just upholding and protecting anime tradition
Mar 23, 2024 2:46 PM

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I love where it is going and my guess about the next episodes is

May 20, 12:03 PM

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That photo cannot be enough evidence to frame Reiji as the killer.
I knew where Cal's role was going and have already expressed my dislike towards it. Nothing changed.
Funny that they can't even stay fair to the source.
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