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Aug 23, 2017 7:06 PM
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Now suddenly this is the top 1 again, isn't that strange? I mean today i started to watch bakemonogatari, and my opinion of the first episode was like "this seems like a good anime" but now seeing this score idk if this is the new masterpiece of the decade or just overrated because of the fix with the number of episodes.
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Aug 23, 2017 8:19 PM
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Atleast its a better #1 than kimi no na wa certainly.
Aug 23, 2017 8:26 PM
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Now suddenly this is the top 1 again, isn't that strange? I mean today i started to watch bakemonogatari, and my opinion of the first episode was like "this seems like a good anime" but now seeing this score idk if this is the new masterpiece of the decade or just overrated because of the fix with the number of episodes.

I dropped bake during the first eps. Then, after a few months, I finished it but I didn't remember anything. Then I rewatched it, watched Nise and so on... And now it's my fave anime series of all time. You should watch it and the other seasons as well.
Aug 23, 2017 9:39 PM
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I like monogatari series. but I'm for tired of watching this. So when I saw this on #1 spot again i probably watch it again .
Aug 23, 2017 10:34 PM
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Just because it's top 1 on MAL doesn't mean it's the best, it only means that most of the fans that are still watching it think it's a masterpiece, nothing less, nothing more. Decent sequels usually have higher scores thanks to the most devoted fans, even if they are on a similar level.

But hey, I also love Monogatari series, although it's extremely difficult to get used to the style of it, took me forever to complete Bake. Now I'm glad I kept watching, after some time I completely fall in love with the characters, storyline and music/animation :3
Aug 23, 2017 10:51 PM
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It has less than 10k votes, it's too soon. It will most likely drop as soon as more people start to watch it.
Aug 23, 2017 10:57 PM
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It has less than 10k votes, it's too soon. It will most likely drop as soon as more people start to watch it.

Or more 1/10 accounts will be made.
Aug 23, 2017 11:01 PM
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I didn't watch it, but I'd take MAL ratings with a grain of salt. It shouldn't alter your opinion of the show.
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Aug 23, 2017 11:07 PM
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Just wait until someone create duplicate account and down vote it.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Aug 24, 2017 12:05 AM
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alway take the score on MAL with a grain of salt
it's inaccurate, bias, and often times, misleading
that being said, i do believe the Monogatari seri as a whole deserve the top spot
btw, welcome to the franchise, hope you have a great ride.
Alway follow the airing order. It take some time till you get used to all the unique quirks of the seri, but once you do, it's amazing
Aug 24, 2017 1:01 AM

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Objectively? Not the best anime of all time. As a standalone it needs all the series already aired. This one greatly connects all those dosts scattered and converts it into a very pleasing finale.

The whole Monogatari universum has its flaws: The story is sometimes very absent and the dialogues sometimes floods with too much nonsense. Many episodes bring out too much of fan service which might be disturbing.

But hey, there isn't anime close to terms of originality: Characters are pretty deep, the plot is unusual and the art style gives it an unique, ubiquitous influence in received perception.

Top 10 should be deserved, but Top 1 is steep even in my eyes, even though I love Monogatari and feel Kimi no Na wa overhyped.
Aug 24, 2017 1:33 AM

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Monogatari Series and Gintama are my favorites, so yes, for me is better than the 99% of all the animes, and definitely so much better than kimi no na wa.
Aug 24, 2017 1:57 AM
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Not even remotely close but this is a sequel boosted beyond belief just like Gintama. Merely that here it somehow struck way harder than any of the prior Monogatari entries which legitimately surprises me. I guess it's because the ending of the main story so people are throwing out 10s more easily as a way to indirectly give a 10 to the whole franchise? Maybe? Idk

Either way, as always MAL ratings shouldn't be taken at face value directly. You need to learn how to interpret them. Kimi no Na wa and Steins;Gate are probably the most legit #1 and #2 in practice since they're both first (only) seasons and quite short. FMA:B is pretty long so the 1/5 rule has a noticable effect there but I guess it should probably be considered 3rd at least (maybe before S;G too considering the score gap)

It depends on how you look at it, but in general just try to estimate how much of the score is derived from an entry's length and sequel status and you can kinda revert it to where it would have been without those factors

Kimi no Na wa is unquestionably the real king on MAL right now though with merely a 0.18% drop rate and no prior entries in the same franchise yet it's still at 9.26
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Aug 24, 2017 2:03 AM
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You don't know if it's best in the universe; how do you know if there isn't an alien MAL website with different top 10's. You have to watch them all.

This one has a massive advantage in that it's got a low viewership compared to others, it's really deep into the gatari series so only fans and no droppers would rate it plus since the episode count has only just been added those who haven't added completed on their MAL don't get their scores added.

Even with all these advantages, I don't expect it to stay.
Aug 24, 2017 2:28 AM

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And here we are arguing over opinions.

Aug 24, 2017 3:14 AM

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I haven't even seen this series, but based on what I've heard and read, i'd rather see this as #1 than Your Name (which shouldn't even be in top 10). But still, this looks like it's overrated. Original of this franchise is rated far lower than this season (like around 1 point less score), I doubt it got that good. That's just loyal air conditioners giving 10s and also they just updated episode count, so scores by 1/10 hater alts are uncounted. Some people compare it to Gintama, but Gintama's first season is rated above 9 too so its new seasons are at least accurately rated (plus they somewhat improved in quality compared to original season).

I give it 3 months and i'm 62% sure this won't be even in top 20.
Aug 24, 2017 7:00 AM
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And here we are arguing over opinions.


lmao, very true. happens every time.
Aug 24, 2017 7:08 AM
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tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.
Aug 24, 2017 7:22 AM

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That's a shame.. I love Kimi no Na wa and I wasn't a big fan of Bakemonogatari
Aug 24, 2017 10:51 AM

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MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.


Did you really just say that not many people watched it, therefore it isn't good? You do realize that to even watch this, you need to watch every other entry in the series? Of course this won't have a lot of viewers man. Think before you type.

Aug 24, 2017 10:54 AM
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Kittens-kun said:
MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.


Did you really just say that not many people watched it, therefore it isn't good? You do realize that to even watch this, you need to watch every other entry in the series? Of course this won't have a lot of viewers man. Think before you type.
thats what gintafagots would say but only first season of gintama is in 100 most popular

also bakemonogatari:570k sequel nisemonogatari: 300k
a loss of 270k users is not little :)
therefore i did think b4 typing
Aug 24, 2017 11:09 AM

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It's not the best at all. Only fans who have gotten that far have actually rated it. Compare 50,000 people's ratings of this show to 400,000 people's ratings of Your Name. If 400,000 people rate Owarimonogatari and it stays at #1, then it's legit. If not, then that's life.





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Aug 24, 2017 11:10 AM

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MorningPersona said:
Kittens-kun said:


Did you really just say that not many people watched it, therefore it isn't good? You do realize that to even watch this, you need to watch every other entry in the series? Of course this won't have a lot of viewers man. Think before you type.
thats what gintafagots would say but only first season of gintama is in 100 most popular

also bakemonogatari:570k sequel nisemonogatari: 300k
a loss of 270k users is not little :)
therefore i did think b4 typing


No, you obviously didn't. Even for highly rated and acclaimed shows, the sequels almost always have less viewers. Even if they liked the show, some people just don't watch the rest for whatever reason. So again, think before you type. :)
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Aug 24, 2017 11:13 AM

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Sucks that this is the number one anime on this site. I know that I stopped caring about the scores on this website a long time ago, but this is just ridiculous. But... whatever. I'm done with talking about this anime.
Help the industry and buy Blu-rays and DVD's.
Noragami is the best anime ever.
Aug 24, 2017 11:16 AM

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Yaboku said:
Sucks that this is the number one anime on this site. I know that I stopped caring about the scores on this website a long time ago, but this is just ridiculous. But... whatever. I'm done with talking about this anime.


That's good, considering your opinion on it is invalid anyway.

Aug 24, 2017 11:23 AM

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MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.
Popularity = quality? not sure mate. For see owarimonogatari 2nd season u should have watched previous seasons + movies.. Not all the people have gone that far.
Obv i don't know if it's deserve the top 1, but it's MAL ranking what you expect lol
Aug 24, 2017 12:04 PM

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MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.
you have some trashy logic
anyway i have watched 2 gatari series and both are overated lol
but even tho i didn't watch this anime yet i am pretty sure it deserve the first spot more than gintama and kimi no nwa
Aug 24, 2017 12:12 PM

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Yaboku said:
Sucks that this is the number one anime on this site. I know that I stopped caring about the scores on this website a long time ago, but this is just ridiculous. But... whatever. I'm done with talking about this anime.
even tho this anime may not deserve the first spot
non of your fav anime does lol
kakegurui even tho i rated it an 8 it definetly doesen't deserve being in the tpp 50
love live one of the most overated anime on mal (cliche characters ,to much optimism and cliche plot and sub plot)
the only thing that made me give it a 9 is the cute girls an the amout of untertainement it delivered
maid dragon is overated
watamote is underated but still doesen't deserve a place in the top 50
watched 3 ep of noregami 2 weeks ago and still trying to continue watching it
didn't watch the anime with the orange haired girl

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Aug 24, 2017 12:20 PM

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Yaboku said:
Sucks that this is the number one anime on this site. I know that I stopped caring about the scores on this website a long time ago, but this is just ridiculous. But... whatever. I'm done with talking about this anime.


Wait..you had something like Kobayashi Dragon or Kakegurui in your favs and don't respect that Monagatari might have a series on the sole top? I guess your scores would definitely make the MAL ranking a much better place..yeah..
Aug 24, 2017 12:31 PM
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kikyo1hinamora said:
MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.
you have some trashy logic
anyway i have watched 2 gatari series and both are overated lol
but even tho i didn't watch this anime yet i am pretty sure it deserve the first spot more than gintama and kimi no nwa

trashy logic is better than fujoshi and horny 12 yo boys that have +100 acc here for boosting
Aug 24, 2017 12:34 PM

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MorningPersona said:
kikyo1hinamora said:
you have some trashy logic
anyway i have watched 2 gatari series and both are overated lol
but even tho i didn't watch this anime yet i am pretty sure it deserve the first spot more than gintama and kimi no nwa

trashy logic is better than fujoshi and horny 12 yo boys that have +100 acc here for boosting

like i sad you have a trashy logic lol
Aug 24, 2017 2:03 PM

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kikyo1hinamora said:
MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.
you have some trashy logic
anyway i have watched 2 gatari series and both are overated lol
but even tho i didn't watch this anime yet i am pretty sure it deserve the first spot more than gintama and kimi no nwa

Gintama° really deserves to be in top10. The other seasons may not, but place of this season is a sure thing. Kimi no na wa definitely does not deserve first place.
Aug 24, 2017 2:21 PM
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I wouldn't say this is the best anime in universe just because it's rated first in MAL. This season answers all the questions and problems people had in previous seasons. So that is probably why this has such high ratings.

Monogatari series is my favourite anime of all time and it is tremendously good. I definitely recommend you watch the whole Monogatari series. Just in case I'll write the watching orders.

Bakemonogatari
Nisemonogatari
Nekomomogatari kuro
Monogatari second season
Hanamonogatari
Tsukimonogatari
Owarimonogatari
Koyomimonogatari
Kizumonogatari 3 movies
Owarimonogatari second season
Aug 24, 2017 4:47 PM

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Then if any anime takes #1 spot its overrated?
Aug 24, 2017 4:52 PM

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MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.

+1
Although i consider Kimi no Na wa as a masterpiece and that it should be first (only my opinion)
Aug 24, 2017 6:40 PM

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yeah best anime of all time, I dont understand why some people like gintama. I mean the comedy is not even funny bruh.
Aug 24, 2017 6:42 PM

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Anowser said:
MorningPersona said:
tbh MAL 100 most polular are better than the top 100 rated.
anyways if this was any good more people would have watched it.

+1
Although i consider Kimi no Na wa as a masterpiece and that it should be first (only my opinion)


Why are you agreeing with that dumbass statement?

Aug 24, 2017 6:48 PM
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yeah best anime of all time, I dont understand why some people like gintama. I mean the comedy is not even funny bruh.

Dude, please don't compare Gintama with Monogatari. Monogatari falls short in every aspect compared to Gintama, it is so mediocre compared to Gintama.
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Aug 24, 2017 7:23 PM

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@Tyrel ____?
People should stop creating threads like this, shit
Aug 24, 2017 7:56 PM

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alvinozthadr said:
yeah best anime of all time, I dont understand why some people like gintama. I mean the comedy is not even funny bruh.

Dude, please don't compare Gintama with Monogatari. Monogatari falls short in every aspect compared to Gintama, it is so mediocre compared to Gintama.


Gintama might be better, but that doesn't mean Monogatari is mediocre.

Aug 24, 2017 8:46 PM
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cchigu said:

Dude, please don't compare Gintama with Monogatari. Monogatari falls short in every aspect compared to Gintama, it is so mediocre compared to Gintama.


Gintama might be better, but that doesn't mean Monogatari is mediocre.

If you discard its visuals, it is not even mediocre. Over-smart dialogues, bad protagonist, even worse other MCs....... list goes on.
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Aug 24, 2017 9:14 PM

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Let me leave some wise words here :P,

Nothing is overrated. It's rated as it should be. It's just that you think it deserves lower ratings.

and sadly(for you) you can do nothing about it.(Other than wasting your own time and the time of your polar opposites by creating dupe accounts.)

One more thing, just like everything ratings change with time as well and ratings aren't universal truths.
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