Inuyashiki
| I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? |
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Sotoz said: mehmehperson said: I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? If you step on some ants do you feel bad? I don't care for the life of ants. Does that make me a bad person? |
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| Nothing's changed about Hiro mentally, it's stated that he killed animals as a kid for fun. He has a conscious and morality. He decided to kill people for fun because that's what he always wanted to do but couldn't that's all there is to it. |
| He's a sociopath. What he did was right from his point of view, but wrong from an ethical one. |
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| He did a lot wrong. A lot of things... |
  Crying doesn't mean you're weak. Enduring doesn't mean you're strong. |
| Whether or not he felt bad about it doesn't really matter. It's still wrong. Seems like both Hiro and Inuyashiki kept their minds even when their bodies changed, so they're still the ones accountable for what they do with their robot powers. |
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| The aliens are bads because killed two people, but the aliens give both a new life...well, now this both persons have new infinite possibilities with their new lives, Inuyashaki used this new life to do the good, but Hiro find the pleasure in the blood and the pain...Hiro is a psychopath to me!!!! |
| It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! |
DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! Horrible people are still people. There's a difference between empathizing with hiro and condoning his actions. Hiro's story was a sad one not because he killed people, but rather he never truly considered his actions. While he was aware that killing was wrong, he was never aware of magnitude of his actions and how'd it effect people he cared about. He never realized that while he could bare the scope of his actions, his loved ones could not. By the time he realized, it was too late. What makes it sad is he didn't doom just himself, he doomed the people around him. |
  come, you sweet hour of death |
| bro there's a meme about Griffith having done nothing wrong so don't be surprised anyway I think Hiro really did wrong stuff along the way. But I wouldn't classify him as evil nor as a good person. That's because he doesn't feel anything. He doesn't do stuff like killing people because it gives him pleasure, he feels nothing whatever he does, including both killing and saving people. He's done both good and evil things. But he was completely indifferent because he's incapable of empathy and humanity in a sense. Do I think he needs to be punished? Yes, he can't get a free pass after having caused so many innocent deaths. |
DanaeDec 4, 2017 2:22 PM
Nothing- said: DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! Horrible people are still people. There's a difference between empathizing with hiro and condoning his actions. Hiro's story was a sad one not because he killed people, but rather he never truly considered his actions. While he was aware that killing was wrong, he was never aware of magnitude of his actions and how'd it effect people he cared about. He never realized that while he could bare the scope of his actions, his loved ones could not. By the time he realized, it was too late. What makes it sad is he didn't doom just himself, he doomed the people around him. It's funny how what you and most people here are describing is exactly what most criminals are in history. Don't get me wrong, I did sympathize with Hiro and I have no problem with people feeling bad for him, however they should never forget the victims who suffered because this one person "was not aware of the magnitude of his actions" and then start defending him and trying to justify his actions. There are two reasons for that, first it's not fair for the victims, and second this is the first step of making more idiots defending criminals who deserve the death penalty, under the name of "humans rights". |
DiabloMask said: Nothing- said: Horrible people are still people. There's a difference between empathizing with hiro and condoning his actions. Hiro's story was a sad one not because he killed people, but rather he never truly considered his actions. While he was aware that killing was wrong, he was never aware of magnitude of his actions and how'd it effect people he cared about. He never realized that while he could bare the scope of his actions, his loved ones could not. By the time he realized, it was too late. What makes it sad is he didn't doom just himself, he doomed the people around him. It's funny how what you and most people here are describing is exactly what most criminals are in history. Don't get me wrong, I did sympathize with Hiro and I have no problem with people feeling bad for him, however they should never forget the victims who suffered because this one person "was not aware of the magnitude of his actions" and then start defending him and trying to justify his actions. There are two reasons for that, first it's not fair for the victims, and second this is the first step of making more idiots defending criminals who deserve the death penalty, under the name of "humans rights". I disagree with your logic, the moment you make it okay to dehumanize a group of people, the moment you pave the way for systematic oppression. There is a difference between empathy and sympathy. I don't sympathize with hiro, because he did horrible things. However, I can empathize with him because I wouldn't want my mother forced into suicide by public outcry. We should never let hatred prevent us from being able to empathize another person because if we can't empathize with someone we won't treat them like a fellow human being. |
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Danae said: bro there's a meme about Griffith having done nothing wrong so don't be surprised anyway I think Hiro really did wrong stuff along the way. But I wouldn't classify him as evil nor as a good person. That's because he doesn't feel anything. He doesn't do stuff like killing people because it gives him pleasure, he feels nothing whatever he does, including both killing and saving people. He's done both good and evil things. But he was completely indifferent because he's incapable of empathy and humanity in a sense. Do I think he needs to be punished? Yes, he can't get a free pass after having caused so many innocent deaths. Griffith did nothing wrong, he did everything to fulfill his dream |
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mehmehperson said: I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? Hiro is a machine with a human soul. He's no less human than someone with an artificial limb. He clearly knows what he's doing is wrong but believes he's above the law due to the powers he now possesses. He kills people because he enjoys it and there's no further depth to his character than the aforementioned. He's just another one dimensional anime psychopath. |
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| "x did nothing wrong" is a shit overused meme and u should be ashamed of not recognizing it |
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iorn said: mehmehperson said: I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? Hiro is a machine with a human soul. He's no less human than someone with an artificial limb. He clearly knows what he's doing is wrong but believes he's above the law due to the powers he now possesses. He kills people because he enjoys it and there's no further depth to his character than the aforementioned. He's just another one dimensional anime psychopath. nah the depth of hiro can be seen in the end of the manga. |
come, you sweet hour of death |
| He murdered dozens of innocent people, so he did in fact do many things wrong. Even so, he's still my second or third favorite character in the show. |
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mehmehperson said: I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? The way I see this story is a take on a trope that goes back to original Star Trek. Aliens want to test who is stronger - good & evil and set the stage with a battle. Also Hiro is definitely evil, he takes sadistic pleasure in killing despite his protestations about 'feeling nothing'. Never trust a psychopath on what they say, judge them by their actions. |
Nothing- said: iorn said: Hiro is a machine with a human soul. He's no less human than someone with an artificial limb. He clearly knows what he's doing is wrong but believes he's above the law due to the powers he now possesses. He kills people because he enjoys it and there's no further depth to his character than the aforementioned. He's just another one dimensional anime psychopath. nah the depth of hiro can be seen in the end of the manga. Then they better give him some depth and fast. Because right now all this anime has to offer is mary sue robots that raise the dead and shoot people through their computer screen. |
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iorn said: Then they better give him some depth and fast. Because right now all this anime has to offer is mary sue robots that raise the dead and shoot people through their computer screen. the depth comes from the surrounding cast, the people they care about. Which is why I liked the ending. |
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Nothing- said: iorn said: Then they better give him some depth and fast. Because right now all this anime has to offer is mary sue robots that raise the dead and shoot people through their computer screen. the depth comes from the surrounding cast, the people they care about. Which is why I liked the ending. He cares about the people he gets attached to and has no problem killing people he doesn't know or like. His personality hasn't gotten any deeper than that. And I highly doubt he's going to become a competent character overnight... Mah I guess he gave me a lot of lols don't the anime. |
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iorn said: Nothing- said: the depth comes from the surrounding cast, the people they care about. Which is why I liked the ending. He cares about the people he gets attached to and has no problem killing people he doesn't know or like. His personality hasn't gotten any deeper than that. And I highly doubt he's going to become a competent character overnight... Mah I guess he gave me a lot of lols don't the anime. Um I don't want to spoil but you got some of it right. |
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GangsterCat said: Danae said: bro there's a meme about Griffith having done nothing wrong so don't be surprised anyway I think Hiro really did wrong stuff along the way. But I wouldn't classify him as evil nor as a good person. That's because he doesn't feel anything. He doesn't do stuff like killing people because it gives him pleasure, he feels nothing whatever he does, including both killing and saving people. He's done both good and evil things. But he was completely indifferent because he's incapable of empathy and humanity in a sense. Do I think he needs to be punished? Yes, he can't get a free pass after having caused so many innocent deaths. Griffith did nothing wrong, he did everything to fulfill his dream well considering he's in my faves list I certainly don't hate him |
Nothing- said: iorn said: He cares about the people he gets attached to and has no problem killing people he doesn't know or like. His personality hasn't gotten any deeper than that. And I highly doubt he's going to become a competent character overnight... Mah I guess he gave me a lot of lols don't the anime. Um I don't want to spoil but you got some of it right. Oh so he just threw a hissy fit for no reason. |
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| I had the ending spoiled for me. |
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Nothing- said: DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! Horrible people are still people. There's a difference between empathizing with hiro and condoning his actions. Hiro's story was a sad one not because he killed people, but rather he never truly considered his actions. While he was aware that killing was wrong, he was never aware of magnitude of his actions and how'd it effect people he cared about. He never realized that while he could bare the scope of his actions, his loved ones could not. By the time he realized, it was too late. What makes it sad is he didn't doom just himself, he doomed the people around him. you are right, with that point of you yeah i did simpotize with his character after he realize his mistakes, but i still can't forgive him, like ok i see big difference in when he was killing for no reason what so ever. and when he was killing for revenge revenge for his mother that did nothing wrong and died because of him and all the people who was criticazing her for rasing him. |
| he did a lot of wrong and i really hated him after episode 2, tho after few episodes i started to hate him less. but still he was wrong and he can't repay for his actions. like no mater what he will do killing for no reason like he did, i just coudn't in any way find it other then disgusting. when he killed the 2Chan troll i was excited that was fun, he had a reason to trully hate them. so that why people do empathize with him, but like in the last episode 9 he didn't have to kill those people he could just destroy the police or just show him his power to doom them with nuke and stop it. no one would go for him after they will no he can send a nuke on them, at least not in the next 10 years. i guess the turture porn episode 2 was really neccesary just so people wont really forgive and start to root for hiro. because after episode 2 it is just impossible to forgive hiro. |
| Hiro did everything wrong; that's not the right way to bang people. But nah, he's fucked. |
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| He was simply only cleaning up after God's mistakes. Internet tough-guy trolls are scum of the Earth. |
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| its up to you to make morals of your life, but mostly they are thrown at you so its second nature to you. As human I think its hes choice what he believes is right. He most definitely makes out himself human, so i wouldn't call him different species since he turned into machine. |
Sotoz said: mehmehperson said: I keep seeing people say that Hiro did nothing wrong. So is it ok for a non-human/living thing to kill humans to feel alive? Because Hiro gets an adrenaline rush from people dying in front of him? Do human laws apply to a machine? What is the message the anime is trying to tell? The aliens are the true bad guys here? If you step on some ants do you feel bad? The ants probably consider it wrong, even if the human does not. Morality is obviously a subjective thing, but most people value other human life and would consider it wrong to kill humans for no reason besides pleasure. |
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| Hiro kills people for fun. But when someone happened to his relatives, he suddenly is pissed. That makes him a hypocrite. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: Hiro is Hitler? Or maybe he's TrumpReally some degenerates translate "Hitler did nothing wrong" here? Like, is this allowed? |
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Aure0lin said: "x did nothing wrong" is a shit overused meme and u should be ashamed of not recognizing it This! Try to learn memorising shit-tier teenage weeb memes, OP. It can save your life later. |
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| generally he did a lot of wrong, but in the end even someone who almots didn't had any emotions left and being rogue, he still had someone he cared most, and we can learn that how this world(his world) also making a contribution in everything from most negative one to the positive one( how media wreck him & how love softened him to heal people) |
Maneki-Mew said: [quote=Maneki-Mew message=53451418]DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! It's not about defending him. For me, it's about that point of view of this psychopath. From HIS point of view, he did nothing wrong, because that's his mental state. He just doesn't think like your average-feeling person. That doesn't mean that you are on his side, omg no! And tbh, Hiro is plotwise the best thing in this anime in my eyes. Just because you like some characters as characters doesn't mean that you like and root for them as a person in any way. ^^" It's different for me with some favorite characters or others I like very much. I really like them as people too, but not someone like Hiro! XD Dunno, the action and whole story are kinda overdone for me. I spoilered myself, yet I'm n DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! It's not about defending him. For me, it's about that point of view of this psychopath. From HIS point of view, he did nothing wrong, because that's his mental state. He just doesn't think like your average-feeling person. That doesn't mean that you are on his side, omg no! And tbh, Hiro is plotwise the best thing in this anime in my eyes. Just because you like some characters as characters doesn't mean that you like and root for them as a person in any way. ^^" It's different for me with some favorite characters or others I like very much. I really like them as people too, but not someone like Hiro! XD Dunno, the action and whole story are kinda overdone for me. I spoilered myself, yet I'm not done with the anime and well... that end, uhm okay? Maneki-Mew said: DiabloMask said: It's scary how it takes no more than a good writer to make people sympathize with and defend such a horrible person. The guy killed innocent people, try to sympathize with those poor victims and put yourself in their shoes! It's not about defending him. For me, it's about that point of view of this psychopath. From HIS point of view, he did nothing wrong, because that's his mental state. He just doesn't think like your average-feeling person. That doesn't mean that you are on his side, omg no! And tbh, Hiro is plotwise the best thing in this anime in my eyes. Just because you like some characters as characters doesn't mean that you like and root for them as a person in any way. ^^" It's different for me with some favorite characters or others I like very much. I really like them as people too, but not someone like Hiro! XD Dunno, the action and whole story are kinda overdone for me. I spoilered myself, yet I'm not done with the anime and well... that end, uhm okay? Why do you and the other guy who replied to my comment assume that I hate Hiro and don't sympathise with him? Look at the title of this post, it says "did Hiro do nothing wrong?" I'm simply replying to that and reminding the admin that Hiro did all kinds of wrong. |
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