Underrated?

aditya47 said:


most people prefer to watch a series after it has been aired ,i began watching this when it was rated around 7.3 which was a decent score for this anime[psycho Pass+inception=ID invaded]

then after a while a vast majority of new guys(i mean those who don't like old artwork,hesitate to pick up 24 + episode series ,have watched very few anime) end up watching it cause they want in on the conversation be it college,school.i personally won't recommend this anime it was one time watch type .
End result spike in rating.
to each his own i guess .

P.S. i don't want to start thread war ;i'll see myself out.
Peace

DomineLkira said:

No , it is not a war , it is a discussion. And I will try to make it as civil as possible.
It is not a good reason that "new guys" started watching it. Do you even know how elitist it sounds?
This show is highly rated because it's concept was unique and story didn't fuck up in the end.
And it was rated like 8.05 when I first saw it in the morning , now it id 8.03. So it is dropping.
You should have given me the reason as to why it was overrated , like what was bad with the show. But instead you started blaming the "new guys"
Nice.

Man , I am also a new guy. Ruining scores everywhere smh.

aditya47 said:


it is -mostly new fans enjoy it.

i did HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD
lets see your anime list

1.i mean those who don't like old artwork check sub 2000 you don't have many
2.hesitate to pick up 24 + episode series check lol the only exception was DBZ
3.have watched very few anime check
4.hmm age check right about college mark.if you don't stay in hostel then age factor doesn't add up [if you are in hostel then you would also know that hostel life is all about gaming,anime...]

welp i ended up bashing too many of you high rated anime in my spoiler section.

after you watch naruto,bleach then do tell me why boku hero is rated 8+ and those are not apart from the fillers they have.
heck even Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 spot seriously it had an interesting start like all battle shonen do be it naruto,bleach,dbz . but what made it to be that high was it the sound track ,voice actors no most of them do have the same quality if not not better the only thing that it had was probably artwork .
i almost dropped Kimetsu no Yaiba around 15 mark it was so so.

the people i talk to about anime recommendations in rl also agree that we watch boku hero,Kimetsu no Yaiba just to pass our time and not because they are soooo good P.S. we all have watched major battle shonen and still argue about which one is the best amoung the big 3/4.

aditya47 said:


lol true it does sound elitist but what can i say you tend to get picky when you have seen same things happen all the time.

i simply don't like plot armor which happened in ep12 .there is a huge discussion on what happened /might have happened as you can see in it's thread.

last 2 episodes were rushed .it was predictable the chief being the culprit and Fukuda death [changing his stance bad guy becoming a good guy that cliche ]
no memorable soundtrack+character[which matters a lot when they try to make an anime somewhat episodic could have learned a few things from HOUSE MD] .it wasn't original took a few concepts from psycho pass (Narihisago is Kougami's copy)come on when one of the main characters based on another you can't expect that anime to do wonders[~happened shanks(one piece) and gildarts(fairy tail)] re zero/steins gate (retrying)and inception(dream within a dream) ;if you are gonna do that atleast do it better.

Mattinator95 said:



???? He has watched Naruto and has watched animes with more then 24 epiosdes

And my hero has like 2 fillers

aditya47 said:


oops i must be blind sorry about that
2.hesitate to pick up 24 + episode series check lol the only exception was DBZ
it makes things easier for him to answer then geeze Mattinator95 are you trying to start something here.

bottom line i wanted to say is that don't go with scores it is very subjective

DomineLkira said:

No , it is not a war , it is a discussion. And I will try to make it as civil as possible.
It is not a good reason that "new guys" started watching it. Do you even know how elitist it sounds?
This show is highly rated because it's concept was unique and story didn't fuck up in the end.
And it was rated like 8.05 when I first saw it in the morning , now it id 8.03. So it is dropping.
You should have given me the reason as to why it was overrated , like what was bad with the show. But instead you started blaming the "new guys"
Nice.

Man , I am also a new guy. Ruining scores everywhere smh.

DomineLkira said:
If that were the case we can say that Inception wasn't original cause it had some scenes which were directly copied from the movie Paprika (never officially mentioned but if you will watch the two you will understand what I am saying).

DomineLkira said:

No memorable soundtrack? I dunno. I thought the soundtrack was pretty dope.

DomineLkira said:

What plot armour tho? If you are mentioning something at least elaborate on it instead of telling someone to look for themselves.

aditya47 said:

i did saw Paprika after inception;but guess what i slept halfway through that movie.


now this is what i meant by memorable people still recognize it after 10years



ah there were too many lets see Kaeru effect didn't knock out our mc till they dove in the well ;which is shown later on that the whole building was enveloped in that

our mc doesn't bleed to death lol Momoki went to another building and came back with the gear to enter the building while mc was bleeding.

Fukuda saving Hondomachi god like agility lol this would have made sense if he was "brilliant detective Fukuda"which he was not his reflexes should be similar to the guys who were defending themselves from boulder.

inami enters dream mode like the others(the guys who were defending themselves from boulder) and kills the guard implying she can now enter any well .but when she does what should have happened ?[hint-what happens when we enter a well]. these are the one's i can remember at top of my head.

DomineLkira said:

1) Kiki didn't turned the whole building into mizuhanome immediately. It was shown the she was just "walking" because of which people around her getting unconscious. So it can he explained that it took some time for her to reach the place where MC and his buddy were.

DomineLkira said:

2) People can actually survive gunshots for hours if they aren't hit in their vital organs. And he was like what? Shot for once? I think it is believable but I can see how you can have a problem with it.

DomineLkira said:

4) Are you referring to the fact that she didn't lost her memories? I actually am kind of curious on this one. Same thing happened with Fukuda too. Maybe the people who enter the well from Kiki's consciousness don't forget who they are?

No wait. Sakaido didn't forget who he was when he entered the ID of Kiki. So maybe that's it? Man they really need a second season to clear things up a little bit.
That's the reason I said I didn't like the last 2--3 episodes of this show. Really a shame.

Kimurah said:


This is just convenient writing. We don't know wich was Kiki's exact location when she began her Psionic attack on the whole Kura and how fast it could spread into the whole building, yet most of the staff does fall into her attack before Narihisago, Hondomachi and company get to this shockwave. It also rises other questions regarding both Hondomachi & Narihisago gaining somewhat imuninity to her attack just because they dived using the Mizuhanome, while the others were captured by the psionic attack and didn't lose their memories.



Please pull out some medical study backing this one up. Most of the articles that talk about trauma by gunshot claim that it's the bleeding that kills you in minutes and it doesn't even have to be in a vital organ. Narihisago sat on the Mizuhanome chair for god knows how long without any kind of help to patch up that wound. But we do know that it was already morning when they had the ambulances sitting outside the Kura waiting for Narihisago and Hondomachi. Even taking into account that the sun comes up at 4:30 am in Japan that's a lot of time between Momoki being released while there was still sunlight to the whole mayhem in the Kura by Kiki's hand. For an unnatended gunshot wound sounds awfully farfetched.

aditya47 said:


fukuda part was explained/assumed in episode 10 i'll quote Irenesharda who wrote this bit in ep10 discussion

"
-When Sakaido wakes up, he has no memories of his time in the well, but he realizes from his observations that in the desert id well, they had been bound to Kaeru using strips from her dress and that Anaido had removed them and hidden that fact.
-Anaido acknowledges this and reveals that he has never forgotten his true identity outside the well as serial killer Fukada like he should have, because of his brain injury. He also found a picture of Narihisago and his family that was on the dead man in quicksand. Anaido reveals Sakaido's true identity to him as Akihito Narihisago, the ex-cop and murderer, which causes Sakaido's brain to go on the fritz."
now don't you think it's convenient to when people remember oh i'm in a ID well /oh i'm a detective

ep9-most of 10 Sakaido (i remember)
ep10 ending Sakaido (oops i forgot)
ep11~hodomachi (oops i forgot but had remembered in the previous episode)
ep12(inami is like"oh kazuta" oh yes the viewers won't notice)

Kimurah said:


This is just convenient writing. We don't know wich was Kiki's exact location when she began her Psionic attack on the whole Kura and how fast it could spread into the whole building, yet most of the staff does fall into her attack before Narihisago, Hondomachi and company get to this shockwave. It also rises other questions regarding both Hondomachi & Narihisago gaining somewhat imuninity to her attack just because they dived using the Mizuhanome, while the others were captured by the psionic attack and didn't lose their memories.



Please pull out some medical study backing this one up. Most of the articles that talk about trauma by gunshot claim that it's the bleeding that kills you in minutes and it doesn't even have to be in a vital organ. Narihisago sat on the Mizuhanome chair for god knows how long without any kind of help to patch up that wound. But we do know that it was already morning when they had the ambulances sitting outside the Kura waiting for Narihisago and Hondomachi. Even taking into account that the sun comes up at 4:30 am in Japan that's a lot of time between Momoki being released while there was still sunlight to the whole mayhem in the Kura by Kiki's hand. For an unnatended gunshot wound sounds awfully farfetched.

DomineLkira said:


Defending these 2-3 episodes is hard as fuck. They really did a bad job in these episodes yet I am trying to defend them.
Anything to pass my time I guess.

Ramcius said:

Also, I like this "convenient writing" argument, it's so good one that you can use it for pretty much every thing, when you just want talk shit about. It's in authors rights to make their story progress in the way they want it, you may like it or you may not, it's your right, but it doesn't make it bad just because story progress not in the way you want