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Jul 31, 2022 8:40 AM
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Weiss trying to resist the nightmare, but needs help. Lets' see what team RWBY can do now.
Jul 31, 2022 8:54 AM
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For how long is this dream gonna continue? I hope it ends next episode.
Jul 31, 2022 9:26 AM
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Pyrrha's VA singing Mirror Mirror in English while the animation specifically went off around her was definitely a surprise. I wonder how it'll be in the English dub version?
Jul 31, 2022 9:53 AM
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For how long is this dream gonna continue? I hope it ends next episode.

i hope so because if all the season is gonna be in the dream of weiss it will be really trash
Jul 31, 2022 10:09 AM
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what was the point of that 1 minute of awful singing?
Jul 31, 2022 10:36 AM
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dead_meary said:
MegamiRem said:
For how long is this dream gonna continue? I hope it ends next episode.

i hope so because if all the season is gonna be in the dream of weiss it will be really trash


Eh idk, I think the whole season gonna takes place in the dream world hence the name Ice Queendom. Its still somewhat interesting so far, at least for me. But I have no idea how they're gonna stretch this out with like 7 more episodes to go
Jul 31, 2022 10:40 AM
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The pacing isn't slow, but the time spent was wasted, especially the mirror mirror segment.

Aw man, most of the things in this episode are recaps. Tow Ubutaka's writing is showing.

Idk if Urobuchi would do a better job in just 8 episodes, but his idea of recap sure made things worse from the get go. Combine that with Ubutaka's idea of making a story progress, then we get this.

If the story is JUST about getting Weiss up from her slumber with this much progress, then next episodes will surely waste more time on one scenario to another.

I hope it pays off in the end...
Jul 31, 2022 10:55 AM
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Nyx45 said:
dead_meary said:

i hope so because if all the season is gonna be in the dream of weiss it will be really trash


Eh idk, I think the whole season gonna takes place in the dream world hence the name Ice Queendom. Its still somewhat interesting so far, at least for me. But I have no idea how they're gonna stretch this out with like 7 more episodes to go


Unfortunetaly, i think you are right but what is the point of this show if all we see is just a dream ? Its really annoying me to be honnest, if i was not a rwby fan i will have already dropped the anime...
Jul 31, 2022 10:56 AM
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
what was the point of that 1 minute of awful singing?

It was a reference to Weiss' theme in the original series called Mirror Mirror
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Jul 31, 2022 11:46 AM
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I liked it because the episode shows that the teacher takes Ruby out before something bad happened to her in Weiss' dream and when the teacher's aura recovers the team decides to go and they manage to get in and Ruby along with Yang had to stay in the tower and Blake was being hunted
Jul 31, 2022 11:55 AM

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Ruby's abrupt shootout from Shion Zaiden to avoid her death in Weiss's dream, it was an admirable job trying to identify what's going on in the Ice Queendom, and most specifically the Nightmare (treating her as such as Negative Weiss). Since Team JNPR has done the same for Jaune, it only made sense that Team RWBY has to handle their stuff together as one group.

Entering into Negative Weiss's dream...and floating around her dream like a typical group sure drags time away, save for the main objective for Ruby to retrace her memories with Blake and Yang, and this time, it must be discreet to avoid attention.

Pyrrha singing Weiss's theme of Mirror Mirror...certainly was a surprise to have it here.

But otherwise, getting deeper into the Ice Queendom only secures their status as intruders in Negative Weiss's dream, and much ado on the certain complexities, only the Faunus Blake stands while Ruby and Yang self-surrendered to keep her from sticking out like a sore thumb.

Weiss's resistance to the Nightmare, and the chess horse rook relic that Ruby found, the closer they get to Weiss, the more resistance they face. The only way now: forward, and not looking back.
Jul 31, 2022 12:27 PM

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Interesting keyboard here:




Is that a video editing keyboard? Haven't seen those for a while.
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Jul 31, 2022 1:12 PM

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So can someone explain Blake's ears? When the megaphones went off and they all covered their ears, she covered the sides of her head rather than her Faunus Ears. Is that a mistake?
Jul 31, 2022 1:16 PM

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Very disappointed in this episode, a lot of things were repeated, the other classmates “concern” for Weiss.. even though we didn’t even know the cast knew about Weiss until Ruby ended up in the dream realm.
Jul 31, 2022 1:59 PM

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Was not expecting Pyrrha to sing Mirror Mirror, she wasn't half bad too. But I'm wondering why Pyrrha singing it and not Weiss. Like that's her song why didn't we see I don't know another version of Weiss singing it.

Looks like the girls are going to fight next episode. Some people don't like the idea of the season just being inside a dream, but I'm enjoying it. Its not fantastic its basically like someone's fanfiction being animated. However I still appreciate some of the ideas they're trying to show.
Jul 31, 2022 2:44 PM
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For whatever reason, the scene of the talking door reminds me of an old cartoon called Here comes the grump; and also it infuriates me how Ruby could be sometimes so negligent at times when using coins like she harbors a mint for herself. Now she's a totally different character than the first episode.
Jul 31, 2022 3:10 PM

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The use of these side-by-side frames is starting to irritate me a bit. Especially when Ruby, Yang, and Blake are all talking about who's going to go into the dream. Aren't they all standing next to one another? Why do they need to be separated by these lines if that's the case??

About the only time it makes sense is during that last scene where things are a bit more distorted and dreamlike (which seems to be done intentionally).
Jul 31, 2022 3:11 PM
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Was not expecting Pyrrha to sing Mirror Mirror, she wasn't half bad too. But I'm wondering why Pyrrha singing it and not Weiss. Like that's her song why didn't we see I don't know another version of Weiss singing it.

I think it has to do with Weiss seeing Pyrrha like an equal and inspiration, so she reflects part of her "self" onto her. She's even given a version of a dress Weiss would later wear in the main series she presumably had at her home. Pyrrha sometimes has her own feelings of being lonely at the top, but she's in the jail with the others due to not accepting the desire to be part of a team with everyone else.
Jul 31, 2022 3:38 PM
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By every episode, my faith in RWBY Fandom decreases little by little. Never before in my life I've seen fans whine about such small things like 'it's all a dream', 'they wasted time on singing'. Like come on these aren't even criticisms anymore. The singing sequence was well animated and no body mentioned how beautiful it looked and sounded.
Jul 31, 2022 3:58 PM

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SunlitSonata said:
PurpleMagic said:
Was not expecting Pyrrha to sing Mirror Mirror, she wasn't half bad too. But I'm wondering why Pyrrha singing it and not Weiss. Like that's her song why didn't we see I don't know another version of Weiss singing it.

I think it has to do with Weiss seeing Pyrrha like an equal and inspiration, so she reflects part of her "self" onto her. She's even given a version of a dress Weiss would later wear in the main series she presumably had at her home. Pyrrha sometimes has her own feelings of being lonely at the top, but she's in the jail with the others due to not accepting the desire to be part of a team with everyone else.


That's a really good point. Makes me wish they focused a little bit more on it.
Jul 31, 2022 4:02 PM

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Interesting that they had Mirror Mirror featured. Cool that they brought the song because it was a big part of he Wess' characterization in early RWBY. Did feel a little random rn tho. Gotta wonder how much time Yang really saved them by staying in that room since Weiss found them pretty quick...
Jul 31, 2022 5:13 PM

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Another good episode. I wonder why they're adding so much depth to Weiss but I guess time will tell.




Jul 31, 2022 7:54 PM

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I love the part where they casually use the N word to call dream Weiss.
Jul 31, 2022 9:21 PM
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another episode another downgrade in score...this disappointment just keeps getting more and more boring.. not even kids will enjoy it.
Aug 1, 2022 12:17 AM

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I fail to see how being it a dream is off putting to some people. Have you not watch Inception? It's a wonderful life? Spirited Away?

Can't you imagine that entering a dream world (not a real world) can get character development? Specially from someone being this prejudice because of the upbringing she's had. She must change and be a better person, tackling her real issues head on seems like a good idea (how she sees the idea of anything aside from her family as a dummy, how despite everything she sees she won't change it, how she really can't seem to figure out what she feels about her team).
Aug 1, 2022 2:02 AM
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It's getting more and more interesting in every new episode. As a RWBY fan, eventhought its a dream, I love exploring the Weiss' inner feelings and exploring her mind. The callback to "Mirror Mirror" was amazing. JNPR's winter outfits were fab. But why Phyrra part of the sillies when Weiss looked up to her alot ? 😅😂
Aug 1, 2022 4:18 AM

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I liked Shaft Shafting out at the very last scene with Weiss, haha
Aug 1, 2022 4:26 AM

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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
what was the point of that 1 minute of awful singing?


Was just all about Weiss right?
Aug 1, 2022 5:27 AM

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Oh fuck this already. Nearly halfway through the entire show, and it still feels like we're at the very start.

And now there's not even any tension since any situation can be pulled out of with no penalty. What an utter, utter joke.

I'll be glad to see the back of it. Dropped.
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Aug 1, 2022 6:45 AM

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I love the of rwby but this show's pacing is just no bueno.
Aug 1, 2022 7:41 AM
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I fail to see how being it a dream is off putting to some people. Have you not watch Inception? It's a wonderful life? Spirited Away?

Can't you imagine that entering a dream world (not a real world) can get character development? Specially from someone being this prejudice because of the upbringing she's had. She must change and be a better person, tackling her real issues head on seems like a good idea (how she sees the idea of anything aside from her family as a dummy, how despite everything she sees she won't change it, how she really can't seem to figure out what she feels about her team).


Exactly my thoughts. I already hate the fans more than I hate the inconsistencies in animation. Dreams are like getting drunk, you show you deepest and darkest desires and traumas.
Aug 1, 2022 1:59 PM
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This is the third episode out of five that's being spent inside some person's weird dream world and it's still not finished, I am a little bit tired of it at this point, I'd like to go back to the plot please...
Aug 1, 2022 2:44 PM
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As a longtime RWBY fan, I don't mind the dreamworld scenario this anime is aiming for at the moment. My main gripe though is the show's current pace and execution, especially with some of the odd creative decisions and miss opportunities with each episode (...which is ironically relatable with the main show).
The example I have with this episode is how they introduced the "dreamworld" Pyrrha, I love that she was singing a version of "Mirror,Mirror" and that she's wearing Weiss' stage dress from Volume 4 - albeit colour-swapped to match Pyrrha's design. However, it seems like an oddly-implemented scene: why was she introduced singing randomly in the cage? What was even the point of that scene when we saw the other three members of JNPR in the same cage last episode and its never expanded on afterwards?
I feel like this would of been a lot better executed if Pyrrha was singing Mirror,Mirror on stage in front of an audience with Weiss watching - matching the stage scene in Volume 4 as a nice call back but also a better representation of how Weiss sees Pyrrha.

Granted, we're only on episode 5 so my mindset may change during the remaining episodes (...I hope).

Here's hoping this show really starts picking up the pace as really showing RWBY's potential in a true anime production.
Aug 1, 2022 6:16 PM
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Chon101 said:
I fail to see how being it a dream is off putting to some people. Have you not watch Inception? It's a wonderful life? Spirited Away?

Can't you imagine that entering a dream world (not a real world) can get character development? Specially from someone being this prejudice because of the upbringing she's had. She must change and be a better person, tackling her real issues head on seems like a good idea (how she sees the idea of anything aside from her family as a dummy, how despite everything she sees she won't change it, how she really can't seem to figure out what she feels about her team).

I don't mind about the dream scene, this isn't the problem, It's all about the way it's presented, directed, how good the plot is, etc... so far this is mediocre at best, if this was presented better or if the plot was better then I would have liked it but that's my opinion about it, if someone else is liking this so far then good for them but this isn't working for me in the slightest.

I liked Pyrrha singing though, it was beautiful and all but I believe that scene was unnecessary and a waste of time as well, her singing while beautiful, didn't add anything to the story nor the plot either, it was just there to see how good she sings, nothing else and this is the problem I'm talking about with the way this anime is being directed but of course, again, that's just my opinion about it.

Even the OG RWBY has unnecessary things here and there but so far I enjoyed the OG RWBY way more, this anime is just a downgrade in every aspect IMHO.
Aug 1, 2022 6:33 PM

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I liked Pyrrha singing though, it was beautiful and all but I believe that scene was unnecessary and a waste of time as well, her singing while beautiful, didn't add anything to the story nor the plot either, it was just there to see how good she sings, nothing else and this is the problem I'm talking about with the way this anime is being directed but of course, again, that's just my opinion about it.

Even the OG RWBY has unnecessary things here and there but so far I enjoyed the OG RWBY way more, this anime is just a downgrade in every aspect IMHO.


Well, speaking from someone new to RWBY (have been always on the ptw but never watched it) I was questioning the scene as well, although knowing that it represents Weiss because it is obvious. I've heard people say that she probably sees herself in her and therefore she sings her theme. With this in mind, maybe expressing her emotions of loneliness is a "dummy" thing to do (even having them must be something that her family teach her to suppress). This is a world created on a basis of psychological analysis of Weiss with all her problems and everything so trying to piece it all together is fun (though, of course, it must be better for og fans)

I like this, I love Shaft and them being able to do wacky stuff to their leisure is fun with the amount of things that they can fit in together (1984, metropolis, nazi germany, fairy tales, attack on titan?, madoka, etc) is generally what I want from them
Aug 1, 2022 9:23 PM

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The episode was alright, I enjoyed Pyrrha singing ‘Mirror Mirror’ the most. I will definitely get that song in the future when it is available along with at least another. Hopefully this series will have many great tracks.
Aug 2, 2022 3:06 AM

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This show feels... slow. I feel like the scene at the beginning where Ruby is explaining her finds in Weiss' dream is unnecessarily long. It's trippy but it's good so far.

It seems to me this show lacks consistency. How can Blake enter the tower so easily? If such option was available, why not just snuck in all three of them together in the first place?
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Aug 2, 2022 3:16 AM
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Chon101 said:
xZabuzax said:
I liked Pyrrha singing though, it was beautiful and all but I believe that scene was unnecessary and a waste of time as well, her singing while beautiful, didn't add anything to the story nor the plot either, it was just there to see how good she sings, nothing else and this is the problem I'm talking about with the way this anime is being directed but of course, again, that's just my opinion about it.

Even the OG RWBY has unnecessary things here and there but so far I enjoyed the OG RWBY way more, this anime is just a downgrade in every aspect IMHO.


Well, speaking from someone new to RWBY (have been always on the ptw but never watched it) I was questioning the scene as well, although knowing that it represents Weiss because it is obvious. I've heard people say that she probably sees herself in her and therefore she sings her theme. With this in mind, maybe expressing her emotions of loneliness is a "dummy" thing to do (even having them must be something that her family teach her to suppress). This is a world created on a basis of psychological analysis of Weiss with all her problems and everything so trying to piece it all together is fun (though, of course, it must be better for og fans)


I wanna approve this real bad. But we have yet to see Ubutaka's writing turn things around in the best possible way. These little things don't really shine as most of the noticeable aspects are the ones considered bad.

Interesting analysis, though.
Aug 2, 2022 5:48 PM
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This show feels... slow. I feel like the scene at the beginning where Ruby is explaining her finds in Weiss' dream is unnecessarily long. It's trippy but it's good so far.

It seems to me this show lacks consistency. How can Blake enter the tower so easily? If such option was available, why not just snuck in all three of them together in the first place?


The other 2 girls are not as Ninja as her.
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It's funny how the problem a lot of people who watch Ice Queendom say is that it's too slow while the problem a lot of non-fans have with OG RWBY is that it's too fast. Like, to the level that Jaune's plot from the first season that in a series with normal running time it would be just one episode is hated because "it's too long". Which explains why so many characters don't have development, but it's a separate issue.

It is understandable that those who enjoy the original RWBY have problems with the pace of this series, but it is a shame that this shows that it will not be the "remake" of RWBY that many fans expected. I don't draw much attention outside of the RWBY fandom.
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
what was the point of that 1 minute of awful singing?
Well if you have been keeping track of things it is basically talking about Weiss and the reflection she sees in the mirror as the Negative Weiss see isn't here but she thinks she needs to be. It's pretty symbolic.

Good episode. I don't know why people want the dream stuff to end so fast. We aren't even two episodes in it and people want something else. Calm down and let the writers tell the story they want to tell. I doubt it goes to the end of the season. I give it two more episodes top.
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I'm embarrassed to admit it took me until Sleepy Klein to realize the Kleins were the 7 Dwarves. smh

Blake saying Nega Weiss amused the hell out of me. I really liked Pyrrah's song. It was very telling. I hope Ruby picked up on it. It appeared as if she had, but you never can tell with her.
Aug 10, 2022 5:44 AM
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Well at least now we have the full team in the dream world so it might be easier for them
Aug 11, 2022 9:42 PM
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Pacing got better
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That song with Pyrrha felt so random

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She really hates Faunus so much.
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Oct 23, 2022 10:35 AM

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it was random out of nowhere and didn't fit the moment but im glad they played the Mirror Mirror song at the very least...
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it was random out of nowhere and didn't fit the moment but im glad they played the Mirror Mirror song at the very least...


Dude on your last comment I was thinking, I'm not skipping 10 seconds quite yet - but on this episode I actually started skipping ahead at slower parts, even halfway through the song before I realized its the actual mirror mirror song lol, then went back and watched it along with the japanese version on youtube, which sounded better than the english singing, but only because they didn't use the original mirror mirror singer to do it, i don't even think they used wiess's VA, it was probably pyrahhas for how deep her voice sounded,

eitherway that was a lame way to add it for me, even if they were trying to say weiss feels like shes trapped in a cage it really didn't do any form of justice lol - but yeah at least they attempted to add a little bit of OG rwby callbacks to it

Still though, I'm really starting to dislike the dream world because it feels like wasted potential, and a lot of fluff instead of progress lol

I didn't plan to come here to complain, was just gonna see if you commented so i could reply to your comment on EP 03 - that yeah, the 5th was lacking in quality, but once I started to think about it, I really started to see the issues lol, it really is getting progressively worse, and im just going to have to go forward with zero expectations from here on out
Someone did say the last 2 eps will finally improve in quality though, so heres hoping.
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FiestaOnline said:
it was random out of nowhere and didn't fit the moment but im glad they played the Mirror Mirror song at the very least...


Dude on your last comment I was thinking, I'm not skipping 10 seconds quite yet - but on this episode I actually started skipping ahead at slower parts, even halfway through the song before I realized its the actual mirror mirror song lol, then went back and watched it along with the japanese version on youtube, which sounded better than the english singing, but only because they didn't use the original mirror mirror singer to do it, i don't even think they used wiess's VA, it was probably pyrahhas for how deep her voice sounded,

eitherway that was a lame way to add it for me, even if they were trying to say weiss feels like shes trapped in a cage it really didn't do any form of justice lol - but yeah at least they attempted to add a little bit of OG rwby callbacks to it

Still though, I'm really starting to dislike the dream world because it feels like wasted potential, and a lot of fluff instead of progress lol

I didn't plan to come here to complain, was just gonna see if you commented so i could reply to your comment on EP 03 - that yeah, the 5th was lacking in quality, but once I started to think about it, I really started to see the issues lol, it really is getting progressively worse, and im just going to have to go forward with zero expectations from here on out
Someone did say the last 2 eps will finally improve in quality though, so heres hoping.
pretty much agree with everything u said i have 0 expectations for this RWBY adaptation... what even is the point of the dream world if it was 1 episode ok but its been 2 or 3 episodes now and its soo boring literally meaningless feels like filler and so early in the anime, i know all i do is complain but its like they took the best qualities of OG RWBY and threw them out the window like how they cut the port battle and went straight to the end of the episode just why? anyway just saw the mirror mirror in jap her voice is good but u can notice the accent i think i liked the english one better
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