Flow of the story was repeatedly interrupted by explations and backstories

Jul 7, 2023 1:27 AM

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This anime seems to have a straightforward story with a definite goal and a world building. But to detail the world it used too much one-sided conversations explaining how the island works and its religious and mythological references making it looks like a documentary.

Secondly to build the charecters almost disjoint backstories was used frequently making the story stagnant.

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Jul 7, 2023 1:37 AM

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I don't mind backstories. Even HxH has a lot. The problem with this anime is that it tries to be too edgy which comes out as cringe.

Jul 7, 2023 2:05 AM

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Finally realized why the show went so slow. There was just too much to explain and not enough room for the actual progression of the anime.

Jul 7, 2023 2:24 AM

Shelby07

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Nah, it was going smooth bruh

Jul 7, 2023 2:27 AM

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SabreDrago said:
I don't mind backstories. Even HxH has a lot. The problem with this anime is that it tries to be too edgy which comes out as cringe.

What do you mean when you say, "it tries too hard to be edgy"? How do you define "edgy" and what specific aspects of the show are you referring to?

Jul 7, 2023 2:34 AM

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That's a very common troupe used in shonen anime. I dont mind it anymore unless it gets really annoying like Demon Slayer S3.

Jul 7, 2023 2:40 AM

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lordjashin500 said:

SabreDrago said:
I don't mind backstories. Even HxH has a lot. The problem with this anime is that it tries to be too edgy which comes out as cringe.

What do you mean when you say, "it tries too hard to be edgy"? How do you define "edgy" and what specific aspects of the show are you referring to?

Watch ruroni kenshin which is airing just now. Both kenshin and Gabimaru are similar in the sorts that they both have dark past and have killed lots of people. But that is where their similarities end. Gabimaru is portrayed as this emo ninja whose main motto is getting down to business and killing everyone in his way with no remorse. The way it is handled just comes off as soo edgy that it is laughable. His personality is as deep as a puddle of water. Titles like "Gabimaru the Hollow" doesn't help either.

Jul 7, 2023 3:32 AM

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SabreDrago said:
I don't mind backstories. Even HxH has a lot. The problem with this anime is that it tries to be too edgy which comes out as cringe.

At least it does it better than Chainsaw Man….

Jul 7, 2023 4:20 AM

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yup, 100% agree.
But whenever I brought the writing up in an episode discussion, 4 out of 5 people would respond with "BuT tHeRe'S aN iN uNiVeRsE eXpLaNaTiOn FoR tHiS!"
Doesn't change the fact that the narration of the show is incredibly disruptive and badly paced at times, imo.

Jul 7, 2023 6:25 AM

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Yeah, I definitely think it’s the worst of the dark trio fs. I feel like the anime was better when the island was more mysterious. Now it just kinda seems like a lot of shounen. It was unique but now the plot is somewhat simple. I mean, it seems like they already master Tao by freaking 12 episodes.

The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10

Jul 7, 2023 10:03 AM

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I feel like I was learning necessary info along with the characters learning necessary info. It felt natural and everything made sense

Jul 7, 2023 10:06 AM

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If there is no explanation: "Plot armour, Mid, Rushed"

If there is more explanation: : "Slow paced, no progression"

People can't get enough of complaints

Jul 7, 2023 10:17 AM

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Chronon said:
This anime seems to have a straightforward story with a definite goal and a world building. But to detail the world it used too much one-sided conversations explaining how the island works and its religious and mythological references making it looks like a documentary.

Secondly to build the charecters almost disjoint backstories was used frequently making the story stagnant.

i think all explanations and backstories were needed. but yes maybe they weren't told on the right time. But the way the story is it couldn't rly be told otherwise.
-telling them on the concentration camp would reveal who would or not make the selection
-extending the boat trip and telling the stories there would ruin the surprises of having half of them dying not contributing for the story.

I think the best thing wouldve been:

backstory of X character - intro - episode

that way we wouldnt have to see 10 minutes of motivations and feelings b4 someone head is chopped off...

Jul 7, 2023 11:28 AM

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I think the main problem several Animes like csm and hells paradise face is that they have waay to small amount of time to explain complex backstories which make the foundation of the anime itself and because of executing those scenes the anime in the current time flow gets interrupted

Jul 7, 2023 11:41 AM

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shash_sama18 said:
If there is no explanation: "Plot armour, Mid, Rushed"

If there is more explanation: : "Slow paced, no progression"

People can't get enough of complaints

Truer words have never been spoken

Jul 7, 2023 12:49 PM

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shash_sama18 said:
If there is no explanation: "Plot armour, Mid, Rushed"

If there is more explanation: : "Slow paced, no progression"

People can't get enough of complaints

anime community☕️

Jul 7, 2023 6:37 PM

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The backstories are necessary for us to have any investment in the characters, and they’re placed very well, so I disagree on that point.

You definitely have a point on the exposition though. When the author needs to explain something to the audience, they usually just have a character directly state it.

There’s one particularly bad moment where some enemies just explain the power system to Gabimaru in the middle of a fight.

There’s a better expository sequence earlier where we cut between three separate explanations of different aspects of the power system, which is engaging and natural as it allows the viewer to piece things together alongside the characters.

But most of the exposition is not like that, which gives the writing a distinct first-time mangaka feel.

The show is good for other reasons, but this is a real problem.

Jul 7, 2023 7:33 PM

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I completely don't mind the backstories. Everything went smooth I never noticed anything being stuck at one point without moving. I got entertained even when they were just explaining how the island was connected to different religions, it was interesting.

Jul 7, 2023 7:56 PM

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The show was like 80% tell / 20% show. Terrible writing.

Jul 7, 2023 9:56 PM

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7_3 said:
Finally realized why the show went so slow. There was just too much to explain and not enough room for the actual progression of the anime.

AKA we needed more episodes lol.

Jul 8, 2023 12:51 AM

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Ya the manga had a similar problem. I thought maybe the anime would fix it, but not so lucky. The next half should be a lot more action and not as interrupted. This was never gunna reach Chainsaw Man or JJK level, but it is a good show. Just would be at 3rd place in this dark trilogy

Jul 8, 2023 12:59 AM

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totally agree! really ruined the overall story-telling for me. i assume it would flow better in the manga. it's similar to how i feel about demon slayer. LOVED the manga, but the story in the anime doesnt feel the same.

Jul 8, 2023 4:25 AM

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Actually backstories helped a lot to understand each one characters so I really enjoyed it

Jul 8, 2023 4:32 AM

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For me it was just fine. A good season.

Jul 8, 2023 4:34 AM

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There are lots of characters and few time to tell their stories due to the action.

Jul 8, 2023 6:19 AM

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Shelby07 said:
Nah, it was going smooth bruh

yes..............

Jul 8, 2023 11:38 AM

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SabreDrago said:

lordjashin500 said:

What do you mean when you say, "it tries too hard to be edgy"? How do you define "edgy" and what specific aspects of the show are you referring to?

watch Kenshin? and support the pedo mangaka? no sir.

Jul 8, 2023 12:12 PM

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SabreDrago said:

lordjashin500 said:

What do you mean when you say, "it tries too hard to be edgy"? How do you define "edgy" and what specific aspects of the show are you referring to?

It seems to me that was the author's intention hence the name Gabimaru the "Hollow". I don't think he's called that just bc it sounds cool or edgy. It's a description of who he is as a character and it gives us an idea of what direction his character development is going to take over the course of the story. He's really not that deep because he starts as an empty, hollow shell and grows into his identity in real time as we are watching the show, at least that has been my interpretation so far. Besides, he's hardly the sole focus of the shows plot development, it's a battle royale, we're following an ensemble cast. I've seen some people complain about side characters being introduced and killed off but that is the nature of a battle royale. With only 13 episodes to introduce each character, there's no getting around it taking up a good portion of the runtime. What I think the show did well is spreading out those parts of the story in a way that doesn't halt completely halt story progression, the plot continues to develop in each episode. Understandably, some people would rather have more plot development and less character building, I however think there is a fairly good balance.

Jul 15, 2023 9:53 PM

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it was basically "episodic" in that several episodes spend a lot of time introducing new characters, giving their backstories, and then often killing them by the end of the episode. but i don't care about "monsters of the week", so i didn't care about "death of the week", either

most of these side characters simply aren't interesting. being introduced to a new character just to watch them die a few minutes later didn't help. its not good writing/directing. if these characters weren't important enough to develop prior to their impending death, then why even bother introducing them at all?

what i'm saying is, was it all the backstories that was the problem? or was is the weak side characters who made the backstories boring and dull? probably both

i personally liked the mc's backstory and the girl who got her whole village killed. but every other backstory and character on the island was uninteresting

Jul 21, 2023 2:36 PM

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Yeah, I was feeling it too. The second half of the season wasn't clicking for me and I finally realized why - all the tension of mystery of the first few episodes kinda disappeared after they started overexplaining everything about the island and the magic system. It started feeling like every other shonen I've seen that just has to interrupt the flow of the plot to explain how every technique or creature works instead of implementing it naturally.

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