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Aug 10, 2023 8:01 AM
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Major spoilers ahead so be warned.

I've finished this series and have become convinced that Hayase is the best thing that has ever happened to Fushi. I believe that somehow the black god is keeping her around, because she is the one who has most spurred his growth and will best prepare him to take on the nokkers. I think this explains the glaring plot hole of why Hayase could survive being mauled by a full on bear attack in a world where the smallest scratch or cut can easily kill.

Throughout the series, Fushi meets good people, and makes friends, but ends up losing the people he loves because he is either (1) too weak physically to save them, or (2) too weak mentally to kill to protect them. Hayase's very existence has forced Fushi to confront these weaknesses and attempt to overcome them.

Fushi has had numerous chances to kill Hayase, but has never followed through with it. Ironically, this has led to him getting two of his best forms, Parona and March. Both of them died because he refused to finish Hayase off at the sacrificial temple, and when they were escaping Yanome. Hayase even calls these forms "gifts" to Fushi when they fought in the finals of the island chief tournament.

While I despised her at first, I think I've turned a corner, and have come to believe that she has done him a ton of good (through I'm positive he himself would disagree). I mean, she gave him two great forms AND even offered her own borderline invincible self for his use? They could have gotten a really good thing going:

Step 1: Fushi meets a strong person and becomes good friends with them
Step 2: Hayase kills them so Fushi doesn't have to get his hands dirty
Step 3: Fushi gets a new form (Profit!)

Then after she dies, or he kills her, he gets her borderline cheat-code invincible form for his use, complete with the years of training she put in ("Please kill me and become me. I'm better than anyone you have"), allowing him to better protect those he cares about from the nokkers. If Fushi ends up saving the world, it will be because he had Hayase in his life.
Aug 10, 2023 8:56 AM
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callmethebigG said:
Major spoilers ahead so be warned.

I've finished this series and have become convinced that Hayase is the best thing that has ever happened to Fushi. I believe that somehow the black god is keeping her around, because she is the one who has most spurred his growth and will best prepare him to take on the nokkers. I think this explains the glaring plot hole of why Hayase could survive being mauled by a full on bear attack in a world where the smallest scratch or cut can easily kill.

Throughout the series, Fushi meets good people, and makes friends, but ends up losing the people he loves because he is either (1) too weak physically to save them, or (2) too weak mentally to kill to protect them. Hayase's very existence has forced Fushi to confront these weaknesses and attempt to overcome them.

Fushi has had numerous chances to kill Hayase, but has never followed through with it. Ironically, this has led to him getting two of his best forms, Parona and March. Both of them died because he refused to finish Hayase off at the sacrificial temple, and when they were escaping Yanome. Hayase even calls these forms "gifts" to Fushi when they fought in the finals of the island chief tournament.

While I despised her at first, I think I've turned a corner, and have come to believe that she has done him a ton of good (through I'm positive he himself would disagree). I mean, she gave him two great forms AND even offered her own borderline invincible self for his use? They could have gotten a really good thing going:

Step 1: Fushi meets a strong person and becomes good friends with them
Step 2: Hayase kills them so Fushi doesn't have to get his hands dirty
Step 3: Fushi gets a new form (Profit!)

Then after she dies, or he kills her, he gets her borderline cheat-code invincible form for his use, complete with the years of training she put in ("Please kill me and become me. I'm better than anyone you have"), allowing him to better protect those he cares about from the nokkers. If Fushi ends up saving the world, it will be because he had Hayase in his life.

That's a bit morbid. I get the indirect helping Fushi but at the end of day, i am human & this is anime but i am human & i don't want him to gain more trauma just cause he could profit from it.
Aug 10, 2023 9:53 AM
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callmethebigG said:
Major spoilers ahead so be warned.

I've finished this series and have become convinced that Hayase is the best thing that has ever happened to Fushi. I believe that somehow the black god is keeping her around, because she is the one who has most spurred his growth and will best prepare him to take on the nokkers. I think this explains the glaring plot hole of why Hayase could survive being mauled by a full on bear attack in a world where the smallest scratch or cut can easily kill.

Throughout the series, Fushi meets good people, and makes friends, but ends up losing the people he loves because he is either (1) too weak physically to save them, or (2) too weak mentally to kill to protect them. Hayase's very existence has forced Fushi to confront these weaknesses and attempt to overcome them.

Fushi has had numerous chances to kill Hayase, but has never followed through with it. Ironically, this has led to him getting two of his best forms, Parona and March. Both of them died because he refused to finish Hayase off at the sacrificial temple, and when they were escaping Yanome. Hayase even calls these forms "gifts" to Fushi when they fought in the finals of the island chief tournament.

While I despised her at first, I think I've turned a corner, and have come to believe that she has done him a ton of good (through I'm positive he himself would disagree). I mean, she gave him two great forms AND even offered her own borderline invincible self for his use? They could have gotten a really good thing going:

Step 1: Fushi meets a strong person and becomes good friends with them
Step 2: Hayase kills them so Fushi doesn't have to get his hands dirty
Step 3: Fushi gets a new form (Profit!)

Then after she dies, or he kills her, he gets her borderline cheat-code invincible form for his use, complete with the years of training she put in ("Please kill me and become me. I'm better than anyone you have"), allowing him to better protect those he cares about from the nokkers. If Fushi ends up saving the world, it will be because he had Hayase in his life.

It’s cruel, but that’s just how it works. Very interesting! Somethinn I noticed lately is that Green and red are counterparts on the chromatic circle. Green being Fushi’s eye color and Hayase’s Red. I personally feel like to your eternity wouldn’t be the same without Hayase and her bloodline. Just like mosquitos in summer. Very annoying and permanent but still important and a part of it.
Aug 10, 2023 11:58 AM
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IhnalakoKaina said:
Would there have been absolutely no other way for fushi to gain strength and save the world other than falling victim to hayase's plots? I wouldn't be so sure about that. The same thing applies to anything else fushi could've experienced. He is immortal after all, so he probably would've learned what he needed to learn no matter what happened. Hayase just happened to be the one.
This is a very good point. If the nokkers knock him back to square one again, he would most lilely eventually be able to develop the skills to defeat them, but would become a different person than his current self. Meeting gugu Pioran and others is what turned him into the soft and caring person he became in this iteration of his life, and Hayase was one of those who pushed back against Fushi's learned selflessness.
Aug 10, 2023 12:01 PM
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Menyor said:
callmethebigG said:
Major spoilers ahead so be warned.

I've finished this series and have become convinced that Hayase is the best thing that has ever happened to Fushi. I believe that somehow the black god is keeping her around, because she is the one who has most spurred his growth and will best prepare him to take on the nokkers. I think this explains the glaring plot hole of why Hayase could survive being mauled by a full on bear attack in a world where the smallest scratch or cut can easily kill.

Throughout the series, Fushi meets good people, and makes friends, but ends up losing the people he loves because he is either (1) too weak physically to save them, or (2) too weak mentally to kill to protect them. Hayase's very existence has forced Fushi to confront these weaknesses and attempt to overcome them.

Fushi has had numerous chances to kill Hayase, but has never followed through with it. Ironically, this has led to him getting two of his best forms, Parona and March. Both of them died because he refused to finish Hayase off at the sacrificial temple, and when they were escaping Yanome. Hayase even calls these forms "gifts" to Fushi when they fought in the finals of the island chief tournament.

While I despised her at first, I think I've turned a corner, and have come to believe that she has done him a ton of good (through I'm positive he himself would disagree). I mean, she gave him two great forms AND even offered her own borderline invincible self for his use? They could have gotten a really good thing going:

Step 1: Fushi meets a strong person and becomes good friends with them
Step 2: Hayase kills them so Fushi doesn't have to get his hands dirty
Step 3: Fushi gets a new form (Profit!)

Then after she dies, or he kills her, he gets her borderline cheat-code invincible form for his use, complete with the years of training she put in ("Please kill me and become me. I'm better than anyone you have"), allowing him to better protect those he cares about from the nokkers. If Fushi ends up saving the world, it will be because he had Hayase in his life.

That's a bit morbid. I get the indirect helping Fushi but at the end of day, i am human & this is anime but i am human & i don't want him to gain more trauma just cause he could profit from it.
Yeah it's quite unfortunate. Fushi had several chances to kill her but could never do so, and I think this is what caused him the trauma he suffered. Hayase was responsible for the deaths of so many people he cared about, yet he never had the strength to finish her off. Because he kept her alive, Jananda island could happen, he suffered more trauma, but he also grew as a result. He doesn't like the trauma either, but as the black god narrates, it is these experiences that force him to grow, rather than staying stagnant and unmoving.
Aug 10, 2023 12:05 PM
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monder_Killer17 said:
callmethebigG said:
Major spoilers ahead so be warned.

I've finished this series and have become convinced that Hayase is the best thing that has ever happened to Fushi. I believe that somehow the black god is keeping her around, because she is the one who has most spurred his growth and will best prepare him to take on the nokkers. I think this explains the glaring plot hole of why Hayase could survive being mauled by a full on bear attack in a world where the smallest scratch or cut can easily kill.

Throughout the series, Fushi meets good people, and makes friends, but ends up losing the people he loves because he is either (1) too weak physically to save them, or (2) too weak mentally to kill to protect them. Hayase's very existence has forced Fushi to confront these weaknesses and attempt to overcome them.

Fushi has had numerous chances to kill Hayase, but has never followed through with it. Ironically, this has led to him getting two of his best forms, Parona and March. Both of them died because he refused to finish Hayase off at the sacrificial temple, and when they were escaping Yanome. Hayase even calls these forms "gifts" to Fushi when they fought in the finals of the island chief tournament.

While I despised her at first, I think I've turned a corner, and have come to believe that she has done him a ton of good (through I'm positive he himself would disagree). I mean, she gave him two great forms AND even offered her own borderline invincible self for his use? They could have gotten a really good thing going:

Step 1: Fushi meets a strong person and becomes good friends with them
Step 2: Hayase kills them so Fushi doesn't have to get his hands dirty
Step 3: Fushi gets a new form (Profit!)

Then after she dies, or he kills her, he gets her borderline cheat-code invincible form for his use, complete with the years of training she put in ("Please kill me and become me. I'm better than anyone you have"), allowing him to better protect those he cares about from the nokkers. If Fushi ends up saving the world, it will be because he had Hayase in his life.

It’s cruel, but that’s just how it works. Very interesting! Somethinn I noticed lately is that Green and red are counterparts on the chromatic circle. Green being Fushi’s eye color and Hayase’s Red. I personally feel like to your eternity wouldn’t be the same without Hayase and her bloodline. Just like mosquitos in summer. Very annoying and permanent but still important and a part of it.
Nice catch on the eye color! Seems like Hayase's bloodline playing an outsized role in protecting Fushi was such a surprising turn for the author to take. Even in her own morbid way, it seemed like Hayase really cared for Fushi and wanted what was best for him, and to see him succeed, and we see that play out in the future stories involving her family members.
Aug 10, 2023 4:58 PM
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I guess i kinda agree. At the cost of short term suffering he managed a lot of long term growth because of Hayase. On another note he also almost ceased existence because of her so yikes

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