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| urrrh T________T I cried a lot and I'm even having big headache cos of crying @.@ urrrh this ep was pretty exciting I liked it Kira vs. Athrun T__T but didn't like the part were they really showed what happened to Nicol T__T |
| Damn still one of the best episodes of the entire series. Just an incredible series of events that really made the climax of the roads Athrun and Kira were walking on. Eventually they killed people close to the others and best friends were locked in a moment of powerful hatred. Strike and Aegis really ripped into each other leading to the destruction of both. |
| The fighting between Kira and Athrun was so fucking epic! :o |
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| wow! one of the best episodes. but I expected the revenge to be somewhere later, not so soon. |
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| OMg Even Tolu died R.I.P man, pretty much everyone was down in that last match |
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| WTF Tolu.... NOOO, not nicole AND tolu, and wtf how did athran have the seed? damn looooool im guessing they are both berserkers then huh |
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| SEED's probably only available only to the top-coordinators, and even then it's rare. And, would anyone actually have done different than Dearka in that situation? |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
| It's risutora time!! You're fired. And you. And you. You are really good, that's why I find it hard to fire you. Somewhy, I didn't like the episode except for the last minutes. Despite Tolle died very easily. |
| Who would guess that Yzak would miss Nicol so much. Tolle didn't really have to die just to send Kira into seed mode... Nice battle,I hope that they'll destroy Buster after capturing it's Pilot. |
 "Only the dead have seen the end of war". ~Plato~ |
| Nice HD remaster. Things look MUCH better now. Nearly 2009 quality. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Poor Aegis... I mean Tolle. |
ChaosLegion said: Who would guess that Yzak would miss Nicol so much. Yeah, I was quite surprised at how much he wanted to avenge Nicol :/ Wow...Tolle's death was ;_; he only just started piloting, and this is what he gets. Then again, Kira did tell him to stay away. So many deaths of characters we actually know. Now Kira knows how it feels like to have his friend killed by his other friend. So much hatred going around. |
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| Still one of the best battles of the whole series. The stills during the Kira vs Athrun fight in the original version were completely replaced with new animation in the remaster. (I just checked and verified this.) |
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| Damn that was an epic fight. All the gundams and the skygraspers are gone...Tolle got killed which is kinda expected unfortunately. Like I said in the last thread, the really good and nice guys get killed. I don't get why Seed gets so much hate, this is quickly becoming my favorite Gundam series. Also Flay is military right? Why does she have no post or job whatsoever?! |
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| Wow, what an episode. I hope it doesn't get bad after this. |
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| That was another excellent ep. You can really feel the humilliation and resentment from the PLANT pilots and the desperation of the Earth forces defending themselves. And I didn't expect Athrun to gain SEED capability. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I wonder how they will explain Kira's survival... I mean there was an opening in the Gundam right in front of him and that explosion. |
| -uummmm.......I'm sure I'm supposed to be sad you died......but,Who are you again -and that Berserker thing got annoying waaay too fast |
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| After that terrible event one can hypothesize a break, however, experienced the narrative there is pressing with a new confrontation is rather nice bloody events with very unpredictable. How much ardor in combat! Not bad designs. Sad for the death of Nicol, I'll go to see the next episode. |
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| We had a similar death in the original Gundam, it's nice to see those parallels. |
| Looks like both Athrun and Kira have the SEED ability, which I kind of expected to be honest (otherwise the battle would've been too one sided in Kira's favor). Nice battle btw: the remaster really made it look great compared to the TV version. This show is really 0079 2.0 tho |
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| FUCKING KIRA, just go killer mode and kill them all !!! Like back to the start, he is being weak again !!!!!!! I SAW THIS COMING......... Been saying for Kira to just KILLLLLLLLLLLLL if he wants to protect. This shit never happens in Gundam Wing thankfully. |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| This series is really gaining momentum at this point. Epic battle was epic! |
The point of this series is to show how depressing and destructive war is, not to watch it to enjoy all the "epic" fight scenes. But yes from what I remember of this show (it's been a good 10 years since I watched it, am rewatching currently), these last 20 episodes are insane. |
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Talim said: The point of this series is to show how depressing and destructive war is, not to watch it to enjoy all the "epic" fight scenes. But yes from what I remember of this show (it's been a good 10 years since I watched it, am rewatching currently), these last 20 episodes are insane. So it is not intended to be entertaining/enjoyable in any way? Okay then. For me the OST alone is enough to justify the use of the word epic. |
bingstar85 said: Talim said: The point of this series is to show how depressing and destructive war is, not to watch it to enjoy all the "epic" fight scenes. But yes from what I remember of this show (it's been a good 10 years since I watched it, am rewatching currently), these last 20 episodes are insane. So it is not intended to be entertaining/enjoyable in any way? Okay then. For me the OST alone is enough to justify the use of the word epic. I didn't say that. The show can be enjoyable, and it is. But to enjoy the fighting aspect of it when the whole story centers around how war and fighting is a sad vicious circle is just kinda ridiculous to me. And yeah that's true. The music in this show is really spot on. |
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Talim said: bingstar85 said: So it is not intended to be entertaining/enjoyable in any way? Okay then. For me the OST alone is enough to justify the use of the word epic. I didn't say that. The show can be enjoyable, and it is. But to enjoy the fighting aspect of it when the whole story centers around how war and fighting is a sad vicious circle is just kinda ridiculous to me. And yeah that's true. The music in this show is really spot on. I get what you're saying, and I am aware of the intentions of the writing in that respect. I do empathise with the characters.. to a point. I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one to find the fighting in this show entertaining and enjoyable at some point or other. It's a mecha anime ffs, not a documentary about an actual war. |
bingstar85 said: Talim said: I didn't say that. The show can be enjoyable, and it is. But to enjoy the fighting aspect of it when the whole story centers around how war and fighting is a sad vicious circle is just kinda ridiculous to me. And yeah that's true. The music in this show is really spot on. I get what you're saying, and I am aware of the intentions of the writing in that respect. I do empathise with the characters.. to a point. I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one to find the fighting in this show entertaining and enjoyable at some point or other. It's a mecha anime ffs, not a documentary about an actual war. Of course. Some parts are cool to watch, I don't disagree with that. But yeah I just wanted to point out that it's also supposed to be disheartening to watch as well. I guess I just got upset seeing all the replies in this thread and previous episode threads from people talking about how cool the fighting is and it seemed like they were totally missing the point of the show imo. And I responded to you in particular cause your message is one of the only recent ones rather than from 2+ years ago lol. I wasn't trying to start a fight so if that's how it came off then I do apologize. I see from your profile you've finished the show and gave it a 9. I'm glad you enioyed it! This was a childhood favourite of mine. |
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Talim said: bingstar85 said: I get what you're saying, and I am aware of the intentions of the writing in that respect. I do empathise with the characters.. to a point. I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one to find the fighting in this show entertaining and enjoyable at some point or other. It's a mecha anime ffs, not a documentary about an actual war. Of course. Some parts are cool to watch, I don't disagree with that. But yeah I just wanted to point out that it's also supposed to be disheartening to watch as well. I guess I just got upset seeing all the replies in this thread and previous episode threads from people talking about how cool the fighting is and it seemed like they were totally missing the point of the show imo. And I responded to you in particular cause your message is one of the only recent ones rather than from 2+ years ago lol. I wasn't trying to start a fight so if that's how it came off then I do apologize. I see from your profile you've finished the show and gave it a 9. I'm glad you enioyed it! This was a childhood favourite of mine. In hindsight, I agree my original comment was pretty dumb and pointless when you consider how deep the story is, or at least intended to be. I think I just wanted to quickly share my excitement for the show at this point.. and got offended for being called out. |
bingstar85 said: Talim said: Of course. Some parts are cool to watch, I don't disagree with that. But yeah I just wanted to point out that it's also supposed to be disheartening to watch as well. I guess I just got upset seeing all the replies in this thread and previous episode threads from people talking about how cool the fighting is and it seemed like they were totally missing the point of the show imo. And I responded to you in particular cause your message is one of the only recent ones rather than from 2+ years ago lol. I wasn't trying to start a fight so if that's how it came off then I do apologize. I see from your profile you've finished the show and gave it a 9. I'm glad you enioyed it! This was a childhood favourite of mine. In hindsight, I agree my original comment was pretty dumb and pointless when you consider how deep the story is, or at least intended to be. I think I just wanted to quickly share my excitement for the show at this point.. and got offended for being called out. Nah it's totally cool, dude. I understand wanting to express your hype about it. :) I'm glad you at least understand the deepness of the story. Meanwhile I saw comments from other people saying how cool it was to see people's bodies imploding when they used that Cyclops weapon at Alaska and I just couldn't imagine how people could watch a show like this and somehow only see and enjoy the violent side of it, ya know? |
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Talim said: The point of this series is to show how depressing and destructive war is, not to watch it to enjoy all the "epic" fight scenes. But yes from what I remember of this show (it's been a good 10 years since I watched it, am rewatching currently), these last 20 episodes are insane. WHO GIVES A SHIT? I'M HERE TO WATCH GIANT ROBOTS BLOW SHIT UP!! Talim said: I didn't say that. The show can be enjoyable, and it is. But to enjoy the fighting aspect of it when the whole story centers around how war and fighting is a sad vicious circle is just kinda ridiculous to me. Who are you to tell others how they can enjoy their anime about giant robots? Talim said: ِDude anime is serious business! LOL Anyway EPIC FIGHT!!! We needs even more people to brutally die!!! Let's GOOOOOOOOO |
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| As much as the remaster is pointless or plainly bad most of the time, the updates on the Kira/Athrun duel were pretty great |
| Athrun sees Kira as his enemy, ok. The thing is, wouldn't he have ended up harboring a grudge against Nicol if he had killed Kira instead(?) There's no winning in a war. RIP Tolle Damn he really jinxed himself Dearka made the right call to surrender. I wonder what kind of role he's going to play. So far he has been in the backround. Epic episode |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Kira and Athrun go crazy in this episode, both of their comrades took one for their teams... |
| Wow this episode was intense, i was glued to the screen. Sadly, Tolle dies too, i wonder how the crew will react :( These last episodes are really sad, even if the fight was awesome, everything is so bitter. |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| fucking amazing episode this arc is incredible man |
| Another amazing episode, the action in this episode was really great. Rip tolle, now both kira and athrun going all out to kill each other since both lost their friends to their opponents. Also congrats athrun for activating his SEED mode. There are still many episodes left so kira definitely didn't died but the question is how did kira survive that explosion?? I assume his plot armour thickness probably tank that blast lol XD |
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