Kimi to Idol Precure♪ Episode 21 Discussion

Hi_D said:
You and others as well, Marinate1016.

Last week's episode was all for nothing, and this episode has Uta, Nana, and Kokoro back to square one. Meanwhile, the rest of the episode AGAIN reminded people what they already know: Purirun still doesn't remember, Meroron is so jealous and selfish that she doesn't want her to remember, and Uta, while not "angsting" exactly, is scared of losing Purirun forever, which would suit Meroron just fine. I mean, why else is Meroron constantly trying to distract Purirun.

Anyway, Uta is trying not to think about it at one point, but knows she has to do something. She asks Meroron what she can do. Meroron tells her that only a miracle can bring back Purirun's memories, but that's just it. You see, Meroron is convinced that miracles don't happen, so she figures Uta has no chance to make Purirun's memories come back. Then the Chokkire Gang comes back and turns Purirun into a Kuraminda (you may have to correct me), but surprise, surprise, her Idol Heart Brooch is frozen by the monster's attack. Yeah obviously this was done in order to fill in the time, but then the miracle happens, Purirun's memories come back (thanks to Uta's song), and the other Cures show up to stop the general (forget his name) from attacking Uta. That should be the end of the story arc right there, right?

WRONG!!

Now Meroron is even more jealous of Uta, and while it's not obvious, she was seething, with her jealously and selfishness leading her to scream at her about "Idol Pretty Cure" and "ZukyoonKiss" being "rivals".

This is stupid! No matter how you slice it, this is just bad writing on the show's part. This shouldn't have even been a story arc. Purirun should have gotten her memories back sooner, and Meroron should have taken the hint by now, but NOOOO! They just had to keep this going all in order to be...surprising? Subversive? Whatever it is, this is just bad writing even by the franchise's standards.

I also don't like the name of the next episode: "Idol Pretty Cure VS ZukyoonKiss?". Oh sure, they say "cooking contest", but it's going to be the worst episode in Pretty Cure ever, if they end up actually fighting each other. I really...and I mean REALLY hope this doesn't happen, and please don't mention the "Dark Pretty Cure" from Heartcatch. That was completely different...

Blindfight said:
You don't have to give mental energy to the things Hi_D says, Valladolid. They're the same person who complained non-stop about the adorable romance arc in Wonderful. I can't remember the last time they said anything positive, if they ever have.

If you are enjoying it, great! I am too. Much more than I anticipated I would, even.

Hi_D said:
You and others as well, Marinate1016.

Last week's episode was all for nothing, and this episode has Uta, Nana, and Kokoro back to square one. Meanwhile, the rest of the episode AGAIN reminded people what they already know: Purirun still doesn't remember, Meroron is so jealous and selfish that she doesn't want her to remember, and Uta, while not "angsting" exactly, is scared of losing Purirun forever, which would suit Meroron just fine. I mean, why else is Meroron constantly trying to distract Purirun.

Anyway, Uta is trying not to think about it at one point, but knows she has to do something. She asks Meroron what she can do. Meroron tells her that only a miracle can bring back Purirun's memories, but that's just it. You see, Meroron is convinced that miracles don't happen, so she figures Uta has no chance to make Purirun's memories come back. Then the Chokkire Gang comes back and turns Purirun into a Kuraminda (you may have to correct me), but surprise, surprise, her Idol Heart Brooch is frozen by the monster's attack. Yeah obviously this was done in order to fill in the time, but then the miracle happens, Purirun's memories come back (thanks to Uta's song), and the other Cures show up to stop the general (forget his name) from attacking Uta. That should be the end of the story arc right there, right?

WRONG!!

Now Meroron is even more jealous of Uta, and while it's not obvious, she was seething, with her jealously and selfishness leading her to scream at her about "Idol Pretty Cure" and "ZukyoonKiss" being "rivals".

This is stupid! No matter how you slice it, this is just bad writing on the show's part. This shouldn't have even been a story arc. Purirun should have gotten her memories back sooner, and Meroron should have taken the hint by now, but NOOOO! They just had to keep this going all in order to be...surprising? Subversive? Whatever it is, this is just bad writing even by the franchise's standards.

I also don't like the name of the next episode: "Idol Pretty Cure VS ZukyoonKiss?". Oh sure, they say "cooking contest", but it's going to be the worst episode in Pretty Cure ever, if they end up actually fighting each other. I really...and I mean REALLY hope this doesn't happen, and please don't mention the "Dark Pretty Cure" from Heartcatch. That was completely different...

Blindfight said:
You don't have to give mental energy to the things Hi_D says, Valladolid. They're the same person who complained non-stop about the adorable romance arc in Wonderful. I can't remember the last time they said anything positive, if they ever have.

If you are enjoying it, great! I am too. Much more than I anticipated I would, even.

Marinate1016 said:

It’s literally a kids show dawg you’re 30 crying over logic in precure lmao. Go watch Madoka or sailor moon.

Hi_D said:

Well, of course it's a "kids show", or I wouldn't even be watching this in the first place. In any case, that has nothing to do with it either way.

it also has nothing to do with logic. It has to do with taking creative and dramatic shortcuts just to keep things interesting. Other Pretty Cure shows (not to mention other "kids shows") have been better written than this, and I feel that Meroron could have been nicer and more understanding (she's even worse than Yuki [Wonderful...] ever was), and that the whole amnesia thing could have been left out altogether. Besides, resorting to drama and (near) tragedy, and manipulating the viewers' emotions just to make a show interesting, or different, or whatever? Where's the "logic" in that?

If it will make you feel better, I don't believe the whole "rivals" thing will stick, and Meroron will come around eventually, but it does feel like the whole thing is only being done just to prove some kind of point, which in this case, hurts the show, really. OTOH, I do wonder when that's supposed to happen; the two teams becoming one team, and Meroron coming around, I mean...

Hi_D said:
Okay, everyone, look. While I don't regret what I've posted before, taking another look at it, maybe I did come off as aggressive or outraged, or negative, or whatever wrong impression I ended up giving, and I am sorry for that.

I kind of did forget about Meroron saving Uta in that one scene, and I do like that this shows that as selfish and jealous as she is, she does have a good heart deep down, and I do believe that will play a part in the redemption I know she'll have. I'm also grateful for Tanaka/Tanakhan getting the other girls to help Uta.

At the time I made my initial post, I didn't feel that was important in the end. Maybe it was for the characters, but it didn't feel like it was important for the writing...or something like that. In any case, I still think these last few episodes could have and should have been written better.

Again, I am sorry if I left a bad impression. I like Pretty Cure a lot, but it does frustrate me when any of the shows resort to drama and near-tragedy like this. I mean, maybe I could have left out the "This is stupid" part. Anyway, I'll keep all this in mind the next time I post about an episode.