"Too much yap"

Jan 15, 1:16 PM

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Everything said in this episode was absolutely crucial, and as anime only I finally understand what’s happening with the games. It was interesting nontheless and had amazing perspective frames. Nowadays if there’s no flashy action scenes every 10mins it’s apparently “boring”🙄

Jan 15, 1:29 PM

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Phantom_373

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People complaining just wanna hate for the sake of hating. The show needs an episode or two to setup the season add lore and info or what not.

Endless fight scenes would just dull the show

Jan 15, 1:31 PM

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snowxzz

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That's why most people reach the end of the manga confused about what happened, i truly believe a good part of the fanbase didn't read it properly.

Jan 15, 1:38 PM

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ReMightyRon

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All the dialogue is necessary, even more so because this arc is long and has many new characters, not everything is about fights and frenetic action in every episode, World-building is also important.

ReMightyRonJan 15, 1:41 PM

Jan 15, 1:40 PM

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Invasivepencils

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Don’t worry next episodes are gonna be crazy

Jan 15, 1:44 PM

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Megawak76

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"Too much dialogue" and some episodes later the people complaining about this won't have any idea of how the Culling Games work, the main objectives, the role of each character and similar things.

At this point, the JJK fandom isn't going to beat the "JJK fans cannot read" allegations, not everything in JJK is just flashing lights and Hollow Purples.

Jan 15, 1:45 PM

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heizanami

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strikeguysAlist said:
The people who complain about "too much dialogue!" are likely the same people who've watched Jujutsu Kaisen through hype edits and reels

How else are we supposed to know how tf the games work? especially for anime only fans.

Totally agree with u

Jan 15, 1:46 PM

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CultOfAina

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I haven't really seen a lot of people mentioning that there's too much talking to be fair. And let's be real most shounen fans or of a certain subgroup so I don't care

Jan 15, 1:57 PM

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Jollyne7

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the same people will write in the next weeks that they don't understand what's going on because they skipped half of the dialogues because they were boring and unnecessary

Jan 15, 2:04 PM

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ktg

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strikeguysAlist said:
How else are we supposed to know how tf the games work? especially for anime only fans.

Lol, I wasn't expecting people to defend this unironically.

The problem is not the exposition heavy episode but the shitty writing. For example, one commonly known concept is "show, don't tell", where the author comes up with clever, creative demonstrations to explain rules. The whole Monogatari series is about how you can cleverly demonstrate conversations. Or look at what Cloverworks did with Bocchi the Rock, they filled it with creative ideas, it was a yonkoma manga.
Standing in front of a white background and having black letters on the top of it is anything but clever and creative writing and directing.

In a manga, yes, you can bullsh*t a lot without people start complaining, but this is not how you adapt something.
When I first watched the first 2 episodes, I assumed MAPPA finally returned to its pre-SnK era, when they were still able to produce outstanding stuff, but this was just awful.

Jan 15, 2:26 PM

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Flamestriker101

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too much complain

Jan 15, 2:32 PM

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Ahohite-killer

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lol the bait title just to say the opposite 🤣

Jan 15, 2:39 PM

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surreal-kun

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the yap was needed

Jan 15, 2:47 PM

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strikeguysAlist

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yatothecat said:
Everything said in this episode was absolutely crucial, and as anime only I finally understand what’s happening with the games. It was interesting nontheless and had amazing perspective frames. Nowadays if there’s no flashy action scenes every 10mins it’s apparently “boring”🙄

So true dude, good dialogue can be just as good as fight scenes

Jan 15, 2:47 PM

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Phantom_373 said:
People complaining just wanna hate for the sake of hating. The show needs an episode or two to setup the season add lore and info or what not.

Endless fight scenes would just dull the show

The Solo Leveling effect

Jan 15, 2:49 PM

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Jollyne7 said:
the same people will write in the next weeks that they don't understand what's going on because they skipped half of the dialogues because they were boring and unnecessary

Lobotomy Kaisen 3

Jan 15, 2:50 PM

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strikeguysAlist

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Ahohite-killer said:
lol the bait title just to say the opposite 🤣

Theres very visible quotation marks

Jan 15, 4:42 PM

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Old_Greggu

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I thought the second half of season 2 didn’t have enough yap, lol

Jan 15, 5:20 PM

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Poplop1

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I could get someone saying that about the chapter episode 3 adapted, but there is no reason you could say that about the episode because the director really elevated the source material by making it more streamlined and presentable. Now would I have wanted Gege to not just have a whole chapter of exposition and just implement it into the story in some other way, yes but the director worked with what they had and made a good episode.

Jan 15, 5:42 PM

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babajeeds

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I get that it was necessary, but have we really ever had an entire JJK episode dedicated just for exposition?

On top of that they expected me to read all that rule text on screen? Hell nah, give me the brief verbal summary and I'll be good. The characters will learn as they go too, there's no way they will remember everything after hearing it once

Jan 15, 5:47 PM

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MinscS2

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I don't mind a good exposition-episode.
Problem is that this wasn't really a good exposition-episode. It was too much info in a too short timespan, with much of it being somewhat complex, if not flat out arbitray. To quote Yuji from season 1:

Add the fact that it was a full exposition-episode in JJK of all things, and I'm not surprised at some of the criticism.

Jan 15, 6:18 PM

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JaokRnd

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babajeeds said:
I get that it was necessary, but have we really ever had an entire JJK episode dedicated just for exposition?

On top of that they expected me to read all that rule text on screen? Hell nah, give me the brief verbal summary and I'll be good. The characters will learn as they go too, there's no way they will remember everything after hearing it once

I mean, I got it after reading it once so I guess the characters in universe should understand after this one heavy explanation too. I mean, the rules aren’t that complex, you just need to get it once and then it’s pretty easy

Jan 15, 6:23 PM

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JaokRnd

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ktg said:

strikeguysAlist said:
How else are we supposed to know how tf the games work? especially for anime only fans.

Lol, I wasn't expecting people to defend this unironically.

The problem is not the exposition heavy episode but the shitty writing. For example, one commonly known concept is "show, don't tell", where the author comes up with clever, creative demonstrations to explain rules. The whole Monogatari series is about how you can cleverly demonstrate conversations. Or look at what Cloverworks did with Bocchi the Rock, they filled it with creative ideas, it was a yonkoma manga.
Standing in front of a white background and having black letters on the top of it is anything but clever and creative writing and directing.

In a manga, yes, you can bullsh*t a lot without people start complaining, but this is not how you adapt something.
When I first watched the first 2 episodes, I assumed MAPPA finally returned to its pre-SnK era, when they were still able to produce outstanding stuff, but this was just awful.

What about the common concept of “I understand this so decision x makes sense for me”? I think that makes many scenes much more compelling than “I don’t understand this decision so concept x gets explained to me afterwards”. It’s just two different styles, it’s not that deep. Both were okay and we got this one, there’s nothing to cry about really, but I get why some people may dislike it. This is just my personal pov

Jan 15, 7:36 PM

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K1ng56783

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I think the anime does yap way better than the manga. Because the manga yap is boring but the anime shows the stuff they need

Jan 15, 9:39 PM

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ArthurBedlam

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I guess I’m not surprised to see people defending this… but that was an entire episode of exposition… there’s no way yall thought that was a good ep frfr. Sure the information is crucial, but an entire episodes worth of info dump? Stop it.

Jan 15, 10:46 PM

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Haunt88

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jjk fans can't handle criticism it seems

Jan 16, 12:05 AM

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snowxzz said:
That's why most people reach the end of the manga confused about what happened, i truly believe a good part of the fanbase didn't read it properly.

spittin nothing but facts.

Jan 16, 12:27 AM

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Blumarine210

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It's the same thing that happens with Chainsaw Man fans every week, these people are just not suitable to watch a weekly release.

Jan 16, 12:43 AM

#30

-Flaky-

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I really loved it but had to keep reminding because I kept losing focus on what they were saying

Jan 16, 12:52 AM

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Laplace_kun

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well it's not really a good form of exposition and world-building, isn't it?

Imagine Yuru Camp but they keep yapping about stuff like it's a voiced travelogue. It is always an option, not the most creative one.

The fact that people have attention based disorder and lack of comprehensive consumption of media is it's own problem.

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Jan 16, 1:26 AM

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Too much "yap" feels more like an expectation issue than a direction problem, though with Monogatari level intent, it could have been even better.

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Jan 16, 2:18 AM

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ktg

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Reply to JaokRnd

ktg said:

strikeguysAlist said:
How else are we supposed to know how tf the games work? especially for anime only fans.

Lol, I wasn't expecting people to defend this unironically.

The problem is not the exposition heavy episode but the shitty writing. For example, one commonly known concept is "show, don't tell", where the author comes up with clever, creative demonstrations to explain rules. The whole Monogatari series is about how you can cleverly demonstrate conversations. Or look at what Cloverworks did with Bocchi the Rock, they filled it with creative ideas, it was a yonkoma manga.
Standing in front of a white background and having black letters on the top of it is anything but clever and creative writing and directing.

In a manga, yes, you can bullsh*t a lot without people start complaining, but this is not how you adapt something.
When I first watched the first 2 episodes, I assumed MAPPA finally returned to its pre-SnK era, when they were still able to produce outstanding stuff, but this was just awful.

What about the common concept of “I understand this so decision x makes sense for me”? I think that makes many scenes much more compelling than “I don’t understand this decision so concept x gets explained to me afterwards”. It’s just two different styles, it’s not that deep. Both were okay and we got this one, there’s nothing to cry about really, but I get why some people may dislike it. This is just my personal pov

@JaokRnd What do you mean by concept and decision here?
The issue here is that how you provide the information to the audience. There are different way to do it and they picked one of the worst options. Visually they added nothing to this conversation. This was like a podcast which is not a compliment, because we are talking about an animated series.

ktgJan 16, 2:32 AM

Jan 16, 3:35 AM

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babajeeds said:
I get that it was necessary, but have we really ever had an entire JJK episode dedicated just for exposition?

On top of that they expected me to read all that rule text on screen? Hell nah, give me the brief verbal summary and I'll be good. The characters will learn as they go too, there's no way they will remember everything after hearing it once

The culling games aren't complicated to understand, it's the expectations people have that the entirety of season 3 will be comprised of fighting.
You don't need to be a genius to get the jist of how everything works, and I don't think the verbal summaries or the 'getting to know on the way' type of explanations work well either, it will just create more confusion.

Jan 16, 3:52 AM

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Piromysl

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Most of the people do not watch brainrot shounen for plot, but only for sakuga, so this reaction is expectable, actually.

Jan 16, 4:15 AM

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Confused_100

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People saying "this is necessary" will age like milk... The dialogue itself is written horribly and tries to complicate it when it is very simple to understand. The yap about kenjaku and tengen really drags on way too much along with the rules that will never be mentioned or be crucial in any way.

JJK fans just need to admit that the story and dialogue was never JJK's strong suit especially in this arc.

Jan 16, 4:33 AM

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Dmoneh

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JJK has terrible storytelling . But great character design and action scenes. These episodes are to be expected.

Jan 16, 8:58 AM

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Gator

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I don't mind a lot of dialogue. But I do mind a lot of dialogue that doesn't keep me interested.

Jan 16, 11:31 AM

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epyon4light

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ok but it's bad writing in the manga and anime it's just purely bad writing making it completely overcomplicated for no reason.

Jan 24, 1:47 AM

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Lanarde

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episode 3 felt like reading an encyclopedia book but i guess it was intentional, the manga didnt feel that overwhelming though but thats also cause you could read the panels at your own pace compared to the speed the large rule explanations go in the episode

LanardeJan 24, 1:52 AM

Jan 24, 1:52 AM

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Reply to Gator

I don't mind a lot of dialogue. But I do mind a lot of dialogue that doesn't keep me interested.

Seconding this 👍

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