a viral japanese fan post criticizes overseas fans for only being interested in "aura farming" and "amazing animations"

Jan 23, 12:15 PM

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Actually it's true. The overseas viewers are only fond of fight, animation and aura. They don't think about storytelling, character development etc. That's why some anime with mid story like Solo Leveling, Demon Slayer get overhyped.

Jan 23, 12:16 PM

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honestly JJK lore/story has gotten so convoluted that I don't even give af about it anymore. so yeah, just watching it for the animation.

and I don't think it's just me. it's a popular meme on social media to ask ppl to explain what a "curse technique" is or "domain expansion". half the viewers don't know or care.

Jan 23, 12:26 PM

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In my opinion, it isn't a problem of the western audience, but of some watchers of the "TikTok generation" that only want to see action and fast doses of dopamine in every show they take a look.

I really liked the episode 3, I have a problem that at the beginning of any new season of an anime, I become lost because I don't remember lore parts that returns and even character names. But this 3° episode gave a full explanation of what this season will consist of.

And I also liked a lot the episode 4, because it showed the weight of the entirety of the Zennin clan being annihilated, the hate Maki had on them, the corruption inside the Jujutsu School, and the powerup she had.

My final verdict is:
Watch an anime and enjoy what it has to offer in its entirety, you may not like some parts but it doesn't mean it's bad, that's the most important thing.

Jan 23, 12:27 PM

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I dont know how high of a rating they want an exposition episode to have acting like a 7.7 is bad lmao

Jan 23, 12:30 PM

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I see no lies. here.......

Jan 23, 12:40 PM

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thats worst then saying all black people cant swim. im black i cant swim but all my family can. I loved that episode and think its the first time I watched a episode twice so quick and got excited becos I love details in anime. western is such a big area and people are different and varies from large map area. I like to talk and take each person at how they talk and interests on here, dont ask hey your from Japan so you are this. I only look upto and have a different view on manga readers who are die hard.

Jan 23, 12:46 PM

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I agree with the Japanese fans

Jan 23, 12:52 PM

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I kind of agree with this honestly.
I personally think the episode was good, however, I think that the main principle of the Arc being a tragic tale of the two sisters dying to the system of the clan and the horror the Zenin Clan felt toward Maki wasn't executed well.
Especially the scene where Ogi Zenin remembers the fear he had toward Toji, when he sees Maki.
I kind of felt that the main elements of the Arc were just brushed over.

I am not complaining about the animation or the art, but the execution of the episode itself.
Which is why this wasn't the best episode in JJK for me, but rather a really good one.

Jan 23, 12:58 PM

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Yes, they are correct, but this was the case in the previous seasons.
Goshozon is not a good director, even the recent episode was a weak directing work and majority of the western audience praised solely based on the animation, while ignored everything else

And this is the same in the case of every anime, no matter if the animation is good or bad, they only care about the animation. That's why OPM S3 got that ridiculously low rating that does not reflect the actual quality of the show.

Jan 23, 1:00 PM

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We're really going to hail this one tweet as the sole word of the entire Japanese fanbase as it were a hivemind huh. It's a dumb tweet, doesn't mean all Japanese fans are dumb nor all Western fans are dumb, as everyone likes hype and aura, it's a global thing. I would like to know how the Japanese reception actually is like, is this the dominant sentiment or is it just this one guy? I do hope it's not another Chainsaw Man Season 1 situation, but I doubt it.

Jan 23, 1:02 PM

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While they're part right about western fans (some at least) only caring about fights, the infodump that was episode 3 truly was a pain in the ass

Remember that even if Japan is the home of anime, its favorite anime is Sword Art Online and Japanese fans are the reason Rent a Girlfriend got 5 seasons.
Don't go trashing western viewers when your own Japanese viewers have trash tastes as well

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Jan 23, 1:03 PM

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It has been the mainstream case ever since Kimetsu no Yaiba, I think.

Beforehand, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it is today. People often throw around stuff like "TikTok-brainrotted youth that mostly likes things that are quick and please their attention span", and as much as I'd like to think that's an over-exaggeration, there's some truth to that matter (as that's what makes a high amount of clips of what effectively becomes popular in the West nowadays).

Jan 23, 1:16 PM

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Pretty much.

Things were much better when anime wasn't mainstream outside of Japan. The mainstream ruins everything.

Jan 23, 1:18 PM

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I agree with them but with JJK, I embrace it because the story, like someone above said, has become so convoluted, that I just watch it for the animation and sleek fights now. sure, I still understand what's going on but the animation and fights are what I mainly focus on.

so yes, he's right. thumbs up to most battle shonentards for giving us a bad rep.

Jan 23, 1:26 PM

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Fayez0001 said:
Oh, I see. Unfortunately, it didn't have an underage girl in the bikini scene on the beach. That makes sense, Japanese chiggas.

can't get more tourist than a speed reaction image....

Jan 23, 1:39 PM

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ep 3 is genuinely the only ep of yapp that i iwatched and liked and didn't feel bored or even felt the time it ended so fast and i fully understood everything whoever didn't understand is genuinely illiterate i fully understood everything and i watched it in english sub english is my 3rd language lmao

the only problem i have is the subtitles cramming i watched it on a "sketchy website so idk how it looks like in crunchyroll apparently its the same issues

they could have just slapped the text on the boxes in the scenes but they decided to code it the code was ass everything was crammed hiding most of the screen lol

Jan 23, 1:41 PM

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Unkreativer said:
I kind of agree with this honestly.
I personally think the episode was good, however, I think that the main principle of the Arc being a tragic tale of the two sisters dying to the system of the clan and the horror the Zenin Clan felt toward Maki wasn't executed well.
Especially the scene where Ogi Zenin remembers the fear he had toward Toji, when he sees Maki.
I kind of felt that the main elements of the Arc were just brushed over.

I am not complaining about the animation or the art, but the execution of the episode itself.
Which is why this wasn't the best episode in JJK for me, but rather a really good one.

couldn't agree more

also the toji & naoya scene was done dirty like bro wtf was that

Jan 23, 1:44 PM

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How dare people enjoy a well-animated and pivot character arc episode over an exposition episode.

Jan 23, 1:45 PM

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Style over substance.

*kappa*

Jan 23, 2:15 PM

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Golden rule of anything from or about Japan: ignore netizens like in the screenshot. More often than not, it’s a loud subset of people that doesn’t represent Japanese people as a whole lol. I see this a lot with idols, where there will be a small percentage of fans on the net who are completely insufferable bullies and trolls towards them. It’s just the NEETs and hikkis who make it their life’s work to be annoying.

Back on topic tho, where are these ratings coming from? It’s not surprising that different countries have different views of certain episodes lol. I personally like JJK in particular because of the character development and interesting plot twists. Bold animation is a bonus more than anything. Also Im too old and autistic to fully understand the ‘aura farming’ concept

Jan 23, 2:25 PM

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so what?
"how dare they enjoy action in an action anime"
people keep complaining about the most trivial matters.

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Jan 23, 2:27 PM

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I agree with the sentiment that a lot of Western anime fans only really care about HYPE HYPE HYPE and couldn't care less about character relationships or emotional scenes, but using Twitter as a source to measure any sort of audience reaction in 2026 is a fool's errand.

Jan 23, 2:31 PM

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REAL10 said:
Actually it's true. The overseas viewers are only fond of fight, animation and aura. They don't think about storytelling, character development etc. That's why some anime with mid story like Solo Leveling, Demon Slayer get overhyped.

I mean those two anime also got very popular in Japan soooo

Jan 23, 2:33 PM

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This is a show 13 year olds and "insane aura" is a thing 13 year olds say (I think) so our fans are honest at least.

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Jan 23, 2:37 PM

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Unkreativer said:
I kind of agree with this honestly.
I personally think the episode was good, however, I think that the main principle of the Arc being a tragic tale of the two sisters dying to the system of the clan and the horror the Zenin Clan felt toward Maki wasn't executed well.
Especially the scene where Ogi Zenin remembers the fear he had toward Toji, when he sees Maki.
I kind of felt that the main elements of the Arc were just brushed over.

I am not complaining about the animation or the art, but the execution of the episode itself.
Which is why this wasn't the best episode in JJK for me, but rather a really good one.

Yes, I agree with this. I loved this arc in the manga, and the anime did not do it justice. From a visual standpoint, it looks fantastic, but it felt like the director completely misread the somber and brooding mood in the moment Maki takes out the Kukuri squad. The fun music and flashy fighting just does not fit. Lots of questionable creative decisions.

I also find it frustrating having to explain to my friends who watched this episode, why Maki didn't kill her mom, because for some reason, the director thought it excellent to skip all the panels where Maki's mom reminisces about how she regrets not being able to stand up for her daughters amidst all the abuse and how she's wanted the downfall of the Zenin this whole time. It's why she chooses to kill herself at the end to pay for her mistakes, but it's extremely downplayed in the anime. Even Maki and Mai's relationship isn't as well executed as it is in the manga. Same goes for how kid Naoya sees Toji as I envisioned it differently.

In hindsight, I actually found Episode 3 more impressive. I didn't have an issue sitting through all the exposition like I did through the manga's. They actually made it a lot more enjoyable and easy to understand, but nowadays, people just lack the attention span needed. Well knowing what a dumpster the manga becomes, I'm probably a little too invested in the story than I should be.

Jan 23, 3:04 PM

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I understand this person's complaint, but being frustrated at people overseas preferring high octane action over a 20 minute exposition dump is kind of wild. The main grab of this show was never the story anyways (at least for me). The characters, action, and animation are what really make JJK, and thats exactly what we saw more of in episode 4.

Jan 23, 3:22 PM

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BlueMoonTornado said:
I also find it frustrating having to explain to my friends who watched this episode, why Maki didn't kill her mom, because for some reason, the director thought it excellent to skip all the panels where Maki's mom reminisces about how she regrets not being able to stand up for her daughters amidst all the abuse and how she's wanted the downfall of the Zenin this whole time. It's why she chooses to kill herself at the end to pay for her mistakes, but it's extremely downplayed in the anime. Even Maki and Mai's relationship isn't as well executed as it is in the manga. Same goes for how kid Naoya sees Toji as I envisioned it differently.

Can you please tell me what panels they skipped? Because I've reread this arc and there isn't a single thing that was skipped. There are no panels of Maki's mother reminiscing anything in the manga. They adapted everything as it is, they only changed some angles and stuff.

I don't get why people keep making things up.

Jan 23, 4:27 PM

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Well, duh. Most of the western fans who started watching anime when it became popular after 2020 have borderline nonexistent attention span. Some of them watch only highlights on reels.
They'll gladly take a story bring on complete standstill and watch flashing lights and cool sakuga over something that actually pushes the story forward.

PiromyslJan 23, 5:59 PM

Jan 23, 4:48 PM

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Expecting me to value more an episode long exposition dump than an example of great animation full of artful scenes is funny. Beside the bad example they are right.

Jan 23, 4:54 PM

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It's a single tweet with other Jap people agreeing to it. That doesn't represent the entire Japanese population.

JJK episode 4 was great, my only criticism is the pacing, which was too fast. The whole family-massacre business needed to happen in 2 episodes, not 1. They needed more time to build everything up to this point, not get it over with as soon as it started.

Jan 23, 5:07 PM

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it's funny because it's true. but i'm not gonna act like 7.7 is a bad rating for that episode.

Jan 23, 5:13 PM

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Well it's accurate. These people just want the tik tok experience in anime form. Sad that people think a good show=good fight scenes and animation. Although episode 3 wasn't very good, would rather have read the manga panels

Jan 23, 6:32 PM

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they're aren't wrong though......

Jan 23, 6:56 PM

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ktg said:
Yes, they are correct, but this was the case in the previous seasons.
Goshozon is not a good director, even the recent episode was a weak directing work and majority of the western audience praised solely based on the animation, while ignored everything else

And this is the same in the case of every anime, no matter if the animation is good or bad, they only care about the animation. That's why OPM S3 got that ridiculously low rating that does not reflect the actual quality of the show.

"Gosso is not a good director" is one of the stupidest takes I have ever heard.

Jan 23, 7:20 PM

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Never forget,
If it ain’t a fight scene or fan service, we ain’t watching it. /s

Jan 23, 7:28 PM

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ktg said:
Yes, they are correct, but this was the case in the previous seasons.
Goshozon is not a good director, even the recent episode was a weak directing work and majority of the western audience praised solely based on the animation, while ignored everything else

And this is the same in the case of every anime, no matter if the animation is good or bad, they only care about the animation. That's why OPM S3 got that ridiculously low rating that does not reflect the actual quality of the show.

"Gosso is not a good director" is one of the stupidest takes I have ever heard.

@CrocodileJaws83 Obviously, you are a tourist without media literacy. How would you be able tell how a good take looks like and how a bad one looks like?

One way to tell if a director is good or bad if we look at what can he do with hard-to-adapt material, for example a longer exposition like EP3. And Goshozono failed. Even some third rate, mediocre directors would have tried to add some visual storytelling to the episode, while Goshozono didn't even try. That's one of the main characteristics of a bad director. And this is objectively true.

Jan 23, 7:36 PM

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deg said:
Jujutsu Kaisen Season 3 Episode 4 apparently gets a 9.8/10 rating overseas.
In the end, those guys are only interested in the fights
"Amazing animation!" "Insane aura!"
That's all they're saying.
The Episode 3 that explained the Culling Game rules in an anime-original segment to make it easy for anime-only fans to understand and got massive praise in Japan only scored 7.7/10 over there.
https://x.com/makura_aimers/status/2014585890430169286

i mean this show is modern bleach anime which is mostly rule of cool anyway

so thoughts? like do you agree with this japanese fan post?

Meh, the explainer episode didn’t really have anything impactful in it though. Not that it didn’t do what it needed to do, but who’s gonna prefer an episode with only expository-style dialogue over one with lots of stylized and fluid action animation? Also a character death, btw.

Kind of doubting that the Japanese audience actually liked that explainer episode more tbh

Jan 23, 7:48 PM

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I like jjk and all but if we are being fr here the writing just isn't good enough to care that much. Of course people will like the hype moments more because that's what the anime is actually good at

Jan 23, 7:48 PM

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BlueMoonTornado said:
I also find it frustrating having to explain to my friends who watched this episode, why Maki didn't kill her mom, because for some reason, the director thought it excellent to skip all the panels where Maki's mom reminisces about how she regrets not being able to stand up for her daughters amidst all the abuse and how she's wanted the downfall of the Zenin this whole time. It's why she chooses to kill herself at the end to pay for her mistakes, but it's extremely downplayed in the anime. Even Maki and Mai's relationship isn't as well executed as it is in the manga. Same goes for how kid Naoya sees Toji as I envisioned it differently.

Can you please tell me what panels they skipped? Because I've reread this arc and there isn't a single thing that was skipped. There are no panels of Maki's mother reminiscing anything in the manga. They adapted everything as it is, they only changed some angles and stuff.

I don't get why people keep making things up.

@Tithain

You're absolutely right. I just re-read the arc as well. None of the panels on her were skipped. Over the year, I probably just came up with my own vivid imagination of what happened at the end, since it's heavily implied how tragic Maki's mom really was. Definitely wasn't my intention to make it up.

Jan 23, 8:18 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/comments/1ql122l/about_the_whole_situation_with_japan_not_liking/

Jan 23, 8:37 PM

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It really depends on the anime. JJK isn’t loved primarily for its story, people enjoy it for the action, spectacle, and overall aura. On the other hand, anime like Vinland Saga is praised mainly for its storytelling and character writing.

If Japanese audiences truly prioritized storytelling above everything else, then series like Vinland Saga would’ve been far more popular in Japan than they are overseas.

Jan 23, 9:02 PM

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he is right, western fans don't care about story, plot or development, just look around AD

Jan 23, 9:07 PM

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Well it is the truth, Solo Leveling won Crunchyroll anime award as the proof of that.

I do enjoy good animation and cool battle scenes too but that alone definitely isn't enough for me to glaze over the anime.

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Jan 23, 9:55 PM

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deg said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/comments/1ql122l/about_the_whole_situation_with_japan_not_liking/

It's true. This goofy aah music made it seem like Maki is some cheeky girl playing vigilante and dispensing justice for fun, not a tragic victim, who's almost two decades of abuse, grief and pain finally boiled over.
But I guess western fans don't care about what characters think and feel as long as they can see some flashing lights and rapid camera movements.
Though I liked his they handled Mother's death and how Maki still gave her a parting gift (chance to finish off Naoya herself) despite being forced to kill her.

Jan 24, 1:06 AM

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He's not wrong, and this extends far beyond just JJK

Controversial opinions

Jan 24, 2:37 AM

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BlueMoonTornado said:
You're absolutely right. I just re-read the arc as well. None of the panels on her were skipped. Over the year, I probably just came up with my own vivid imagination of what happened at the end, since it's heavily implied how tragic Maki's mom really was. Definitely wasn't my intention to make it up.

I appreciate you going to check and admitting this. I've seen so many people claim that this episode skipped or rushed stuff and I really though I was going crazy.

Piromysl said:
It's true. This goofy aah music made it seem like Maki is some cheeky girl playing vigilante and dispensing justice for fun, not a tragic victim, who's almost two decades of abuse, grief and pain finally boiled over.
But I guess western fans don't care about what characters think and feel as long as they can see some flashing lights and rapid camera movements.
Though I liked his they handled Mother's death and how Maki still gave her a parting gift (chance to finish off Naoya herself) despite being forced to kill her.

It's a legitimate interpretation. The first half of the episode is dark and somber, but then when Maki unleashes and massacres the entire clan, it's cathartic. Liberating. I mean, she kills hundred of people, strong fighters to be precise, alone and crushes the system that oppressed her all her life. It's karma and it's pathetic for them, they deserved it. I think the music fits, there is inherently something ironic in how they got annihilated in one day by a single person they ruined the life of, in the anime and in the manga both. Of course, it wasn't the only way to do it, but it's not like they didn't understand the manga or made any of the choices without reason.

TithainJan 24, 2:42 AM

Jan 24, 3:26 AM

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Actually it's true. The overseas viewers are only fond of fight, animation and aura. They don't think about storytelling, character development etc. That's why some anime with mid story like Solo Leveling, Demon Slayer get overhyped.

@REAL10 While Demon Slayer has a "mid story" It excels in character writing.

Jan 24, 3:27 AM

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BlueMoonTornado said:
You're absolutely right. I just re-read the arc as well. None of the panels on her were skipped. Over the year, I probably just came up with my own vivid imagination of what happened at the end, since it's heavily implied how tragic Maki's mom really was. Definitely wasn't my intention to make it up.

I appreciate you going to check and admitting this. I've seen so many people claim that this episode skipped or rushed stuff and I really though I was going crazy.

Piromysl said:
It's true. This goofy aah music made it seem like Maki is some cheeky girl playing vigilante and dispensing justice for fun, not a tragic victim, who's almost two decades of abuse, grief and pain finally boiled over.
But I guess western fans don't care about what characters think and feel as long as they can see some flashing lights and rapid camera movements.
Though I liked his they handled Mother's death and how Maki still gave her a parting gift (chance to finish off Naoya herself) despite being forced to kill her.

It's a legitimate interpretation. The first half of the episode is dark and somber, but then when Maki unleashes and massacres the entire clan, it's cathartic. Liberating. I mean, she kills hundred of people, strong fighters to be precise, alone and crushes the system that oppressed her all her life. It's karma and it's pathetic for them, they deserved it. I think the music fits, there is inherently something ironic in how they got annihilated in one day by a single person they ruined the life of, in the anime and in the manga both. Of course, it wasn't the only way to do it, but it's not like they didn't understand the manga or made any of the choices without reason.

@Tithain Funny thing is they weren't all murdered in a day. The subtitles didn't properly convey the exposition at the end but Maki hunted down the rest of the Zenin clan that weren't present at the time.

Jan 24, 4:05 AM

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I've dropped JJK precisely because the story, worldbuilding or anything of actual value got extremely convoluted, which made me not have any emotion towards the characters. So I both agree people give too much credit towards blind spectacle, but I also disagree that people should praise bad storytelling. Hell, Demon Slayer, while not convoluted, is pretty bad for the most part, but Japan people glaze that shit like crazy.

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