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| not unlike now King Charles of Great Britain etc. being 'crown prince' for so many decades... this show's empire has had a 'crown prince' for more than three decades... the weight of such a long wait... must be heavy on that 'prince'... i guess patience will wear out at some point. |
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| I love how this anime literally boils down to "I'll throw money at this problem to fix it." *Gets dubbed The Wise Prince for it* |
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I love how this anime literally boils down to "I'll throw money at this problem to fix it." *Gets dubbed The Wise Prince for it*
| @KrowGrave well if you look at bribery from the most basic viewpoint... if somebody is making 500 of 'something' a year in bribes, offering them as their boss a PAY INCREASE to '5,000 of something' to not take bribes? is the easiest and most likely to work solution. because guy doesn't need those 500... when he's making 10x that amount now. annnd not getting fired or beheaded or having a limb or finger or whatever removed violently or whatever the punishment for government corruption is there. |
| just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either. |
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@KrowGrave well if you look at bribery from the most basic viewpoint... if somebody is making 500 of 'something' a year in bribes, offering them as their boss a PAY INCREASE to '5,000 of something' to not take bribes? is the easiest and most likely to work solution. because guy doesn't need those 500... when he's making 10x that amount now. annnd not getting fired or beheaded or having a limb or finger or whatever removed violently or whatever the punishment for government corruption is there.
| @KiliianSleipnir I'm talking about more than that. Increasing the pay of a soldier that informed him, causing him to want to act as a spy and nearly die for it. Buying the singer's hall. Buying an entire area of land. Buying all the horse feed around. Buying a statue just to break it. Each may have had a "reasoning" behind them, but he's burned through the Kingdom's coffers like crazy. There is nothing wise about buying your way through every single problem. |
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| Such a roundabout way of dealing with politics - pretty interesting and a bit funny keeping up with it |
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| a lot of politics and intrigue happening, but noah's navigating them like a seasoned pro seeing things unfold from outside the box & strategizing accordingly. and now he's adding something to do with fire to his arsenal based on that thing he - or rather leviathan - picked inside the vault? |
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| I wish more anime took the role of being this realistic and serious, it would be so much more enjoyable. Let's hope they make more stories like this. |
ejleonFeb 17, 4:04 AM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| MC has cooked so much from the first ep, he got engulfed in a spontaneous combustion... really sasuga wise denka! Well, now that our mc is dead, it will be very interesting to see our new MC lol 🤣🤣🤣 On a serious note tho, it kinda makes sense about this new toy approved of by Leviathan- it's Fire. Fire consumes. What conquers Fire? Leviathan and a Water User. |
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| This has the capacity to be interesting. A crown prince who isn't worthy of the title, but no one can really do anything about it right now and an aging king who realizes the crown prince is simply not up to the task, but is unwilling to hand the crown to others for fear of the repercussions to his legacy (plus removing him would probably start a civil war upon the king's death). If handled correctly this can be incredibly intriguing. |
| Yep as I suspected politics surrounding the crown and Noah is a candidate to succeed the crown. Prolly will cause he is the mc. As usual like his quick and smart thinking. Looks like he got another power up with whatever item that was. Btw I'd like to see the other prince/princesses. |
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LucenProject said:
I don't think they took poison. I think they were trying to bite off and choke on their own tongues, so he stopped them by blocking their mouths from biting down.
Mirality said:
The wound to trigger immediate execution thing was a bit odd, since they'd already taken poison. Granted he yelled that he'd stop them, but he didn't actually do that.
I'm guessing the fire thing is going to be some kind of magic armour to go with the sword.
The wound to trigger immediate execution thing was a bit odd, since they'd already taken poison. Granted he yelled that he'd stop them, but he didn't actually do that.
I'm guessing the fire thing is going to be some kind of magic armour to go with the sword.
I don't think they took poison. I think they were trying to bite off and choke on their own tongues, so he stopped them by blocking their mouths from biting down.
They showed mercury or something coming out of a ring and into their mouths.
Mirality said: Thats the ability of his ring. He used that to block them from killing themseleves initially so that they can be interrogated but after judging the situation and understanding what was going on he decided to execute them as otherwise the situation would spiral out of control.They showed mercury or something coming out of a ring and into their mouths. |
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@KiliianSleipnir I'm talking about more than that. Increasing the pay of a soldier that informed him, causing him to want to act as a spy and nearly die for it. Buying the singer's hall. Buying an entire area of land. Buying all the horse feed around. Buying a statue just to break it.
Each may have had a "reasoning" behind them, but he's burned through the Kingdom's coffers like crazy. There is nothing wise about buying your way through every single problem.
Each may have had a "reasoning" behind them, but he's burned through the Kingdom's coffers like crazy. There is nothing wise about buying your way through every single problem.
| @KrowGrave actually yes there is tons upon TONS of wisdom at using money to solve issues in government, because it is the simplest solution in government. i was born in the US Military system, lived in it the 20 years my father served. then enlisted myself in a different branch (at 18 years old) than my dad and served nearly 15 years. giving somebody a MONETARY REWARD for accurately reporting Fraud Waste and Abuse has been a US Department of Defense program (and pretty much every other part of the US Government too) since the 1970's and frankly? in my father's military police experience for 2 decades and my own military police work for almost 1.5 decades... those reports? be they anonymous or named... get more problems solved criminally and bureaucratically than long-term in-depth police initiated created started just rando 'holy crap guess what i just saw boss!' cases. because giving a monetary reward encourages more people to be honest AND keep their eyes and ears open for dishonest folks. plus it is easier and more effective than a pat on the back, or a handshake, or a medal, or a certificate/commendation, promotion, picture in the newspaper and so forth. the soldier who became a spy? how is the money given DIRECTLY related to that guy's actions? HE ALREADY RAN INTO the prince's household, almost dead THE FIRST TIME!!! to report the rebellion. then the dude goes BACK IN to that SAME AREA AND SITUATION... to learn more. from an intelligence and asset creation viewpoint? dude's a freaking Audie Murphy type running BACK INTO the hot-zone to risk his life a second time. pretty much every single military in real life human history would hold that one guy up as a sterling example of a soldier. buy the singer's hall. real estate and business investments are BAD?!? wow. you really don't know the SINGLE LARGEST ACREAGE LANDOWNER IN the USA is? guess... cmon... you can get it right in one try! the US Bureau of Land Management/the Federal Government. yeah! every NATIONAL PARK? Federal land. a large number of Native American Reservations? Federal Land. all the Dept of Defense facilities? Federal land. various monuments, historic locations, and so forth. as for the business at the hall. how many times has the US Federal Government 'bailed out' different corporations? banking/financial institutions? THE PELL GRANT for poor or low-income people to get higher education. that is NOT A LOAN! the Pell Grant is just that, a GRANT! nobody has to pay that one back, unless they get it via fraud. mandatory minimum US State level education from age 4-5 until age 17-18. The No Child Left Behind act which states that if 'you' parent or guardian of school aged child lives somewheres that the schools are sucktastically terrible? you can move your kid to a better school and the Feds and States will HELP YOU TO PAY FOR IT! even PRIVATE EDUCATION! oh and guess what? you forgot one GIANT-SIZED ERROR! he didn't work for the government or use government budgeted cash for ANYTHING till? he got hired... appointed... volun-told... to head up THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT of their government. guess where all that money YOU say he is throwing away came from? the kid's allowance. just like multiple OTHER REAL LIFE noble families on Earth today in 2026... they live (partially or totally) off the money that "daddy" gives them, or "mommy", or "grandparent". sure, the kid's allowance is pretty hefty! uhh... how many BROTHERS does he have again? six? they haven't mentioned his female siblings or any other relatives other than granpa Emperor right? are you gonna complain about 'their' spending too? since we don't know diddly about them... probably not. you don't know how much cashflow or income or outgoing expenses this government has. heck you don't even know the GRAND TOTAL BIG WOO-WOO amount of the yearly budget. this kid's allowance could be... gas money for ONE postal worker to run their route once a day... here in the US... compared to the REST of the budget for his country. |
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@KiliianSleipnir If taking bribes is based on need, giving more works, but since it's likely based on greed, giving more doesn't stop wanting more. All the other potential punishments and consequences remained the same as I doubt Noah can add laws himself. Arguably, the biggest difference is that it has a higher likelihood of being caught during Noah's time as minister.
@Krowgrave Yes! There was like one moment at the flood where they mentioned not having enough money for something and had to work something out, but since then everything else has been "I'll just buy loyalty/place/item/art piece/medical education".
@chizzie Noah, based on the story, knowing laws at the highest levels, and always taking into account how each action will appear to others looking at the situation would want to make the story of their death as above board and beyond scrutiny. I think you're right that he should be able to kill any intruders, but for some reason, despite clearly being beyond everyone in the show, he staged their execution as if someone of his caliber was going to be doing an investigation and determine "these wounds were given after these men were incapacitated." It seems over-thought just to show his dedication by taking a wound for the Emperor's aims of not letting the crown prince crash a burn and destabilize the empire.
@Krowgrave Yes! There was like one moment at the flood where they mentioned not having enough money for something and had to work something out, but since then everything else has been "I'll just buy loyalty/place/item/art piece/medical education".
@chizzie Noah, based on the story, knowing laws at the highest levels, and always taking into account how each action will appear to others looking at the situation would want to make the story of their death as above board and beyond scrutiny. I think you're right that he should be able to kill any intruders, but for some reason, despite clearly being beyond everyone in the show, he staged their execution as if someone of his caliber was going to be doing an investigation and determine "these wounds were given after these men were incapacitated." It seems over-thought just to show his dedication by taking a wound for the Emperor's aims of not letting the crown prince crash a burn and destabilize the empire.
| @LucenProject as to GOVERNMENT specific corruption? hehhhh eahhhh maaaybe? but probably not. now everything I MYSELF just me have read about police/government corruption in (now don't get bitchy at me folks who live there!) Mexico... their government employees and police forces are GROSSLY under-paid. to the point where they CAN'T survive on their income. now that's not the bigwigs or the uber-powerful guys who... yeah... greed and suchforth would push them harder towards bribes than poor Snuffy Smith cop on the streets... or Bureaucrat Betty typing on her keyboard all the live long day for a pittance in wages. as to this #2 guy in their Justice Department? he's a new-ish fellow, definitely not a long greybeard lifer. but 'somehow' he gets 'tapped on the shoulder' to be our MC's 'dude'? so he's not exactly poorer than the dirt on a church-mouse's paws. plus his 'ethics' as stated are 'i only take bribes on cases that could go one way or the other. but not clear-cut and obviously one-sided guilty or innocent cases.' because the guy said he didn't want to get caught obviously screwing something up for da money. so he's smart and creative but has a code he lives by. would threating him work? or would it be counterproductive and rile the guy up to take MORE bribes and actively hide them more intelligently? being proactive and 'nip it in the bud' right then and there with a pay raise? smarter option i think. plus, it could that encourage the guy to get with his buddies at the water cooler and tell them, 'you would NOT believe what the boss just did! go tell him the same thing i just did and see if he'll up your pay too!' \shrug/ ya never know how office scuttlebutt might help a leader out or bite em in the assets. |
| just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either. |
| absolutely brutal cliffhanger. cant wait for next week |
| Wait... She got burned? |
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That was an incredibly abrupt ending 😬
I'm enjoying it to see how any power-struggles go, but it is just so funny how Noah is constantly in a uncomfortably rigid looking action figure stance (even while getting treated for his self-inflicted stab wound), and again (imagine as others have commented) it's so funny how everyone keeps telling him that he's the best ever, so smart, etc. 👀
I'm enjoying it to see how any power-struggles go, but it is just so funny how Noah is constantly in a uncomfortably rigid looking action figure stance (even while getting treated for his self-inflicted stab wound), and again (imagine as others have commented) it's so funny how everyone keeps telling him that he's the best ever, so smart, etc. 👀
| @GooseHybrid the mangaka clearly was not loved enough as a child. |
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