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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Abolishing all the farms means the beginning of a new era.... Is the world truly ready?! The kids can finally be free! |
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| Happy Easter y’all, PHIL. I’m so happy he’s back. You’re so happy he’s back. We’re all happy. As for the rest of the chapter, disappointing again. As usual, tension and conflict is set up only to be defused with convenient ass pulls and talk no jutsu. Leuvis coming back isn’t too wild since it was shown that his body was gone few chapters after he died. But the whole Mujika situation just feels too convenient. Now she’s become queen, farms are gone, etc. Just makes you wonder what was even the point of setting up Norman as a villain and building up for all those chapters to this ideological showdown between former friends only to throw it out the window with one chapter of talk no jutsu.. if there’s one good thing to come from this, it’s that we’ll probably get a reveal of what the promise was in the next few weeks. I don’t really see many ways the story could be extended at this point with every potential opposition having been defeated. |
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| that was, anticlimatic i guess.. well, still better than ratri fiasco. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| There's always going to be a catch of some sort |
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| I’m so happy they can see Phil again. <3 Hopefully they can just escape safely! 🙏 |
| And everybody just quit eating humans because... because friendship. And happy ending. Cool stuff. Why Louis decided to do this again? Did we see why he changed his way of thinking THIS MUCH? As far as I remember he enjoyed hunting children way too much. This is what Emma-therapy does to demons... |
| We got Phil and Mujika become queen. What else can we ask for at this point |
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| Well, that was incredibly underwhelming. There was the escape from the farm which delivered. Then the rest of the manga was building up to this moment and now that it's here it is a colossal anticlimactic disappointment. What caused Leuvis' change in attitude in regards to the livestock? He seemed to be more obsessive about cruelly hunting and killing them rather than just eating them. He dies and now he has a change of heart because? And the demon population is very easily swayed. One moment they want to hunt and kill Mujika and within hours they want to make her Queen. Wtf? The writing right now feels very juvenile and lazy. I guess I should just be happy that it's finally wrapping up. Honestly, I don't even want to learn what the new promise is if it means the story will be extended more. |
| It took us 140 chapters. But Emma finally gets to see Phil again! |
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| Next chapter hits the 10th of May. We have to wait an entire month just to see a single chapter or something. Anyway, as the series is coming to a close and all, it's somewhat disappointing that it had to end this way. While yes, it probably had to end this way to have the perfect happy ending that the characters wanted, it isn't exactly realistic. Also, the masses are retarded, just putting that out there. Still, even after having this disappointing ending, I still have fond memories of this manga. One of the first ones I actually owned physically, and probably one of the most intruiging premises I've seen in manga. I will stand by the fact that until the reintroduction of Norman, this was one of the best written shounen manga I've seen, and for thay 60% of the story, I will still rate this series with a 9/10, even though the ending was quite the letdown. |
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| All hail the new queen! Nice to finally have a reunion with Phil. |
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| They’re really trying to rush to the end. This all feels way too convenient. Any “conflict” that pops up is resolved so quickly and it’s super unsatisfying. This is the exciting climax the story was building toward? Ray and Norman don’t even feel like characters anymore. Just like everything else, they’ve been pushed to the sidelines...So underwhelming... |
| This feels quite rushed. One thing i'm wondering is: Is Emma's new promise perhaps ALREADY in effect, and that is why (thanks to demon god magic and shit) everything is going so smoothly and conveniently? That would be epic in my opinion. All that remains would be for Emma to pay the price now! If that's NOT the case, then it feels like bargaining with a demon god was POINTLESS! - I mean, Emma already achieved everything. everyone's safe, demons let humans go, no more farms, what else is left that requires demon god's help?! |
| Lewis acting soooo out of character I think... Next chapter only next month : < |
| I’m happy Phil is back. I hope Emma reveals what the condition for the new promise next. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: This feels quite rushed. One thing i'm wondering is: Is Emma's new promise perhaps ALREADY in effect, and that is why (thanks to demon god magic and shit) everything is going so smoothly and conveniently? That would be epic in my opinion. All that remains would be for Emma to pay the price now! If that's NOT the case, then it feels like bargaining with a demon god was POINTLESS! - I mean, Emma already achieved everything. everyone's safe, demons let humans go, no more farms, what else is left that requires demon god's help?! Your words made me think (it rarely happens, thinking, but still!) - WHAT IF this Demon God actually made this all happen? It would explain a lot of stuff and at least has some weight. Probably just me trying to justify lazy writing. |
| This is getting so contrived is unreal, Lewis, of all people, wouldn't do this just because "he died" lmfao, Goldy Pond arc just got ruined. This is also going way too smoothly to be true, specially for this manga that used to be about mental games and survival. This turned into a kid's trip that convince demons to not eat them via Talk no Jutsu, where every single character from Emma's side has plot armor and issues that are solved with awful plot twists. @Sigmar-Unberogen There's a plot hole there, if a new promise effects starts to happen right after it's been forged, then what happened to the last promise? does it expire or something? I actually find pretty dumb that just because of it, no one dies and things goes smoothly as if there were no consequences, it goes against what this manga once where and feels incredibly fake. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Eh that was too fast and smooth, there got to be a catch somewhere. Oh and Lewis suddenly turning was total bullshit, like his second core. |
| Some replies on this manga discussion just feel way too ridiculous. It's like some don't even bother to understand the story as it is, only going back to the first arc like it was the most wonderful thing ever. It's your fault that you never noticed tpn was always a shonen series dedicated to a younger audience. Everyone nitpicks the most insignificant of things, without even batting an eye at the good stuff we had in the recent chapters so far. Some people straight out thinking Norman was going to be a villain, throwing away the entire basis of his character. Emma's speech, in which she clearly says she hates Peter, is ignored and she's considered a mary sue. It's ridiculous how everyone simply doesn't want to see the good stuff in the series and instead devotes the entire comment section to say crap about it, making the experience worse for everyone. And that because it didn't fit the ideal misguided concept the person made of a cartoon made for 13-year-olds. Wake up, this is a shonen series. Does this mean we can only say good stuff about it? Of course not. The last arc had a considerable amount of disappointments for me as well. But some of these comments are just ridiculous. If you want, "serious, deadly stuff" go back to your serious, deadly anime. The Promised Neverland never presented itself that way. |
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SoManyRainbows said: Emma's speech, in which she clearly says she hates Peter, is ignored and she's considered a mary sue. If I wasn't so lazy I would have written a long-ass reply about how there's almost no good in this story left and a lot of people just read it for the sake of completionism, and no, showing Phil is NOT enough to make this manga considered good, and YES, some deaths or injuries would have helped to feel how cruel this world is, hell, even Kaiji had it much harder than those kids living in a world with fucking flesh-eating demons! Nah, it was a walk in the park, no one lost even an arm or a leg. Some characters died, yes... characters that was implemented in the story to be killed off. If you don't think Neverland was about surviving in a dangerous world, then you probably have read some other manga. Not the one with demons eating children, not the one where children risked their life to escape literal prison tricking their jailers, nah, it's alright. And please, Google the definition of Mary Sue. I am not getting how hatred or lack of it is connected to being Mary Sue. Spoiler: it doesn't. Mary Sue can hate, it's Mother Teresa who can't. |
TheMangaManiac said: SoManyRainbows said: Emma's speech, in which she clearly says she hates Peter, is ignored and she's considered a mary sue. If I wasn't so lazy I would have written a long-ass reply about how there's almost no good in this story left and a lot of people just read it for the sake of completionism, and no, showing Phil is NOT enough to make this manga considered good, and YES, some deaths or injuries would have helped to feel how cruel this world is, hell, even Kaiji had it much harder than those kids living in a world with fucking flesh-eating demons! Nah, it was a walk in the park, no one lost even an arm or a leg. Some characters died, yes... characters that was implemented in the story to be killed off. If you don't think Neverland was about surviving in a dangerous world, then you probably have read some other manga. Not the one with demons eating children, not the one where children risked their life to escape literal prison tricking their jailers, nah, it's alright. And please, Google the definition of Mary Sue. I am not getting how hatred or lack of it is connected to being Mary Sue. Spoiler: it doesn't. Mary Sue can hate, it's Mother Teresa who can't. Dude, I'm just quoting what I read in some comment sections on here. People literally called Emma a mary sue. I mentioned that to indicate how unreasonable calling Emma a mary sue was, because her discourse on earlier chapters was really well done. I also could write a long reply about how much I think tpn is good because of how distinct it is from the other series. But would you be willing to listen and consider my opinon? And maybe even changing yours? If you wouldn't be willing to see through my point of view then I would be wasting my time with a long reply. "no one lost even an arm or a leg". Cislo: Am I a joke to you? I never said Phil was enough to make the manga good. I wasn't even thinking of Phil to begin with. All I know is that I binged these last 6 chapters and I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, even if there were some parts I really disliked. I don't see this generalized drama that's happening here on this forum, I really don't. All I see is people getting pissing off because tpn wasn't edgy or realistic enough for them. "If you don't think Neverland was about surviving in a dangerous world, then you probably have read some other manga" TPN is a survival story and I always saw it that way too. But, one thing is a realistic survival story, the other thing is a fantasy story that was never connected to reality. This is about super-genius KIDS who can carry heavy guns and shoot huge creatures. What part of this is realistic? What part of this story makes me think it's a "serious survival story"? This isn't The Walking Dead, c'mon. Just because a story isn't realistic, doesn't mean it is badly written. I think it's important to remember that. Everyone is criticizing this series expecting it to be a seinen or smth. TPN doesn't deserve this backlash. |
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Gabisu said: press the word "shounen" as a justification for bad writing, then you yourself are saying that this story is total bullshit, downplaying it as a buzzword that is already made by the community to justify bad decisions, and honestly the manga always being a shounen, doesn't making the mistakes forgivables, come on, even "To you the Immortal" is a very consistent series of consequences in the script. You didn't understand my point. Of course, it doesn't justify bad writing, I never said that. I even said that there were a lot of things I disliked in recent chapters. But it doesn't justify all this backlash tpn is receiving, it isn't crap, it had so many great things happening in these chapters alongside the bad ones. To me, the mistakes are forgivable, because there were a lot of great things that people are ignoring because of resentment or smth. It's like, because the series isn't turning out as they wanted, they decided to simply stop objectively seeing the positive points and just focusing on the bad ones, causing bad repercussion around a series that clearly doesn't deserve it. |
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| Nice Mujica became queen and the children are finally free. Also great Emma and Phil finally met again. |
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| Damn of course Emma would keep her promise and see Phil again. Btw, I meant her promise with Phil. |
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| Well deserved. This series has come so far. I can't believe the Promise is coming to an end. Sweet Phil, so good to see him again! |
| I'm ok with a happy ending but this one doesn't feel earned at all and even though I'm expecting a twist, I'm not sure it'd be enough to make me forget the last couple of chapters. SoManyRainbows said: To me, the mistakes are forgivable, because there were a lot of great things that people are ignoring because of resentment or smth. You have every right to enjoy the manga as it is but you can't dismiss other readers' opinions so easily, don't act like you're the rational one and we're just willingly hating the manga because... Because? To you the good outweighs the bad, to us it doesn't, end of story. |
Johnny-Jay said: You have every right to enjoy the manga as it is but you can't dismiss other readers' opinions so easily, don't act like you're the rational one and we're just willingly hating the manga because... Because? To you the good outweighs the bad, to us it doesn't, end of story. I'm not thinking I'm better than others though? What makes you think you know what's going on in my head just because of my comment expressing my opinion? I'm just saying that's how the other comments FEEL to me, I have the right to think and feel that way. That doesn't mean I'm dismissing the others' opinions. Just like some can't understand why I'm enjoying the manga, I can't understand why they're not enjoying it. That's absolutely normal. |
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| HELL YEAH PHIL MY BOY IS BACK!!! He's grown up a bit! Current administration? Abolished. Old leaders? Arrested. Evil blood? Shared. Degeneration? Solved. Human farms? Closed. New monarchy? Yes. New monarch? Queen Mujika. Humans? Free? Phil? HELL YEAH!!! Btw I'm so glad I read this now I can't wait a month lol. |
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NemesisDawn said: Yeah something really feels suspicious about Emma whenever she talks about the promise, she's obviously hiding something. And your theory is a highly likely.I'm pretty sure the "catch" you guys are looking for will involve the promise that was forged with Emma. She'll probably sacrifice herself, and you'll get the miserable ending you guys are looking for lol. |
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| I don't even care what happens anymore. And then Phil showed up. Finally! |
| Now all that's left to see is the human world. |
  Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
| Throughout the story, we got to witness some incredible things from like how Ray got everyone out of Grace Field, how Emma saved the kids of Goldy Pond, and how Norman escaped Lambda to become the next William Minerva but the way things are going now aren't clicking for me at all for some reason. The farms being abolished, everyone giving up human meat, Musika being the new Queen; it's like they're just being handed everything they wished for one after another instead of giving their all to get that happy ending. I know that Emma still has that ominous Promise to fulfill but I wish that the kids had a bigger contribution to everything that's happened instead of just shooting things. |
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| Whew! I'm glad the war between cattle children and demons are over. That was quite drawn-out! I thought there's no end to it anymore.😣 I was teary-eyed when I saw Phil. I've been longing to see him for a long time now that it felt nostalgic when I saw him again!🥰 |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Veganism. Now let's move onto the promise? Trying to think of what trope it would be if this was an unsatisfying ending. Not even classifiable as tragic, but unsatisfying lol. |
| This is so fucking bad, man. Everything is fucking rushed and doesn't make any sense, the author either was trying to finish the story quickly or lost his capacity to write something good. |
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| ^ lmao. I find it hilarious all of a sudden the demons are willing to become good 🙄 then to cause further melodrama Emma has to be separated from her friends with amnesia.. |
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| Honestly? Downhill. This series has a great premise but it couldn’t commit to how dark that premise was to begin with. |
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
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