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Feb 24, 2013 12:18 PM
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I'm satisfied.

I couldn't imagine that how this long story of vengeance ends when I finished volume 29. But now I feel that ending is more than acceptable. Samura successfully unfolds ending. He also made a epilogue, "Manji & Rin", so that we can see how they lived after the last battle. We can see that Manji's little finger at his right hand is missing at the very end. I didn't care about it at first but it actually has a big meaning.

Great story. Nice end. I love it.
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Aug 21, 2013 8:41 AM
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I was actually pretty satisfied with the ending. Burying all off Itto ryu' weapons, showing Rin's granddaughter and showing Rin was alright after Manji left, and the little finger Fuyu was talking about. I'm not fully sure what it meant, but I think it was Anotsu's last words that Manji said he'll never forget.

I just wish that they showed a bit more of Rin and how much of a mature women she's grown into

Anyways, great manga with a good ending!
KvshiAug 21, 2013 8:50 AM
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Guess Manji x Rin was not quite possible, so i think that's the fit ending. Though i didn't expect Rin to kill Kagehisa. I thought she will forgive him in the end, but Well, Kagehisa accepted his death with a smile to end things otherwise Rin wouldn't have able to kill him even in his sleep.

Didn't expected to see ninety years time-skip. It was nice to see that old hag Rin and her grand daughter. I wonder if Manji even remember Rin's name. Taking Fuyu didn't ring the bell for him.

Kvshi said:
and the little finger Fuyu was talking about. I'm not fully sure what it meant, but I think it was Anotsu's last words that Manji said he'll never forget.

That was Kagehisa arm. Remember Habaki cut his finger. I think he asked that guy on the ship to pick-up Kagehisa from the river and burry him and probably later he took his arm for memory/promise or just because he needed it and replaced it with that big arm he had. So Fuyu asked about that finger and he remembered kagehisa name because of that.
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Sep 27, 2013 4:30 PM
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Han-yuu said:
Guess Manji x Rin was not quite possible, so i think that's the fit ending. Though i didn't expect Rin to kill Kagehisa. I thought she will forgive him in the end, but Well, Kagehisa accepted his death with a smile to end things otherwise Rin wouldn't have able to kill him even in his sleep.

Didn't expected to see ninety years time-skip. It was nice to see that old hag Rin and her grand daughter. I wonder if Manji even remember Rin's name. Taking Fuyu didn't ring the bell for him.

Kvshi said:
and the little finger Fuyu was talking about. I'm not fully sure what it meant, but I think it was Anotsu's last words that Manji said he'll never forget.

That was Kagehisa arm. Remember Habaki cut his finger. I think he asked that guy on the ship to pick-up Kagehisa from the river and burry him and probably later he took his arm for memory/promise or just because he needed it and replaced it with that big arm he had. So Fuyu asked about that finger and he remembered kagehisa name because of that.


Even though, I'm late on this reply, alright, but yeah, I was expected Rin to forgive Kagehisa. Rin's forgiveness would've been the final stage of her character development in the manga.
Sep 29, 2013 10:16 AM
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Kvshi said:
Han-yuu said:
Guess Manji x Rin was not quite possible, so i think that's the fit ending. Though i didn't expect Rin to kill Kagehisa. I thought she will forgive him in the end, but Well, Kagehisa accepted his death with a smile to end things otherwise Rin wouldn't have able to kill him even in his sleep.

Didn't expected to see ninety years time-skip. It was nice to see that old hag Rin and her grand daughter. I wonder if Manji even remember Rin's name. Taking Fuyu didn't ring the bell for him.

Kvshi said:
and the little finger Fuyu was talking about. I'm not fully sure what it meant, but I think it was Anotsu's last words that Manji said he'll never forget.

That was Kagehisa arm. Remember Habaki cut his finger. I think he asked that guy on the ship to pick-up Kagehisa from the river and burry him and probably later he took his arm for memory/promise or just because he needed it and replaced it with that big arm he had. So Fuyu asked about that finger and he remembered kagehisa name because of that.


Even though, I'm late on this reply, alright, but yeah, I was expected Rin to forgive Kagehisa. Rin's forgiveness would've been the final stage of her character development in the manga.


But then again, wouldn't it make the whole bloody journey of Rin and Manji rather pointless? All the people killed on their way plus what it made of Rin's life is why I think she couldn't forgive him.

BTW, who is the kid Giichi talks to? It didn't ring any bell for me.
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Oct 13, 2013 11:38 AM
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I think Rin did forgive Kagesiha. As she says in her last talk to Hyakurin (chapter 206) :
'There was certainly... a part of me that wavered'

Then she explains her decision to kill him :
'When the word "Child" left that man's mouth.. I knew for certain that I couldn't let him live'

The talk she is reffering to is (chapter 191) :
Kagesiha : ''We'll run and keep running. Wherever we eventually end up, we'll build a town and raise children... We will teach those children the way of the sword. Before long, a threat will appear... this is what I think.'

IMO, we saw her mindset about revenge evolve through the manga, especially with her talks with Kagesiha himself. When Renzo wants to kill Rin, we see how much she thinks revenge is pointless. In the end she decided to kill Kagesiha to avoid the endless cycle of revenge, deaths, and despair she went through to other people in the future.
Oct 26, 2013 2:15 PM
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Weird ending with the 90 year timeskip, atleast Anotsu did survive, and that mask guy washed up with the other two.
Aug 1, 2014 8:04 PM
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pretty meh manga it got decent action but the story sucked.
Sep 19, 2015 12:36 PM
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Fantastic read, i will admit i was really skeptical at first and was close to dropping on a few times but glad i stuck with it. The first thing to say was how misled i was by the synopsis, i assumed it would be manji on a quest to slay 1000 evil men, at the end of the day i think he killed like 13 or something (haha) but despite that it quickly made sure people realized that things weren't going to be as straightforward. I do admit i questioned some of the choices of certain characters such as Rin, if she really wanted vengeance why not go for it instead of saying she'd follow Anotsu to see his end. All in all, fantastic characters and even more impressive art and a decent conclusion.

Really wanted to see Doa one more time :(

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Feb 19, 2016 9:06 PM

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The quest was interesting to say the least but felt a bit repetitive as time went on. I'm not also really sure what to think of the 90 year time skip either. Overall, decent story. I didn't care much about the subtle romance though.
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Apparently there was a prologue chapter, I don't know if I missed it...Anyway that was a really good ending, made me kinda hope for a sequel.
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"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Jun 12, 2017 8:24 PM

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pretty meh manga it got decent action but the story sucked.


I know this is a really old comment. Maybe you aren't even active anymore,

But with you having coffin princess as a 10 and btooooom as a 9 I don't trust your opinion at all
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Extect said:
Valaskjalf said:
pretty meh manga it got decent action but the story sucked.


I know this is a really old comment. Maybe you aren't even active anymore,

But with you having coffin princess as a 10 and btooooom as a 9 I don't trust your opinion at all


Are you saying I'm lying ?
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Valaskjalf said:
Extect said:


I know this is a really old comment. Maybe you aren't even active anymore,

But with you having coffin princess as a 10 and btooooom as a 9 I don't trust your opinion at all


Are you saying I'm lying ?


I usually don't assume someone is lying on the internet.

I just assume you think coffin princess and berserk are equals... and that you did not like blade of the immortal

Also, I find btooom ridiculous because it takes itself too seriously
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Oct 30, 2017 11:15 PM

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Enjoyed the entire story all the way up until this chapter.

I felt no closure at all. Didn't like that Rin & Manji held no interactions or goodbyes.

In a weird way I'm disappointed.
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Enjoyed the entire story all the way up until this chapter.

I felt no closure at all. Didn't like that Rin & Manji held no interactions or goodbyes.

In a weird way I'm disappointed.

Agreed. I thought Manji and Rin relationship was significant enough to show some kind of outcome with them in the end.
90 years passed, although the fact that Manji is still alive made me happy, Rin is dead. That was depressing as fuck.
Besides I don't care when they show or incorporate as characters the children or grandchildren of protagonists in endings or sequels, it always seems to ruin the story. I just want to see or know about the main characters.

Would have been cool if Rin talked with the old lady and acquired the worms too and everyone thought she died but in the end she re encounters with Manji or something after those years (or not, whatever).
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I don't understand the aversion so many writers have to showing explicit closure between major characters at the end of their stories. It really wouldn't take away from anything at all, and there're plenty of insignificant pages crammed in at the end that could be trimmed down if need be. Too caught up in returning as quickly as possible to a sense of normalcy, all while prattling on about their closing themes, I suppose.

Parts of this manga really dragged but for the most part it was a fun and enjoyable read with some emotional weight behind it. A good tale to be sure, though not an especially great one.
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At first i have planned to dropping it becaue the beginning was weird for me and I can’t understand but as the story goes i bevome attached with it.
For me i’d wish rin forgive anotsu because somehow i really like anotsu character but well this too is nice because anotsu died with a smile and he can join makie.
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Idk about you guys, but the manga was near masterpiece. One thing that made me abit suspicious that Manji was not that good swordsman and relied too much on his immortatlity. Literally in every battle he was beaten to death almost. Aside of that, story was great. Strong 9, imo
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Omario6 said:
Idk about you guys, but the manga was near masterpiece. One thing that made me abit suspicious that Manji was not that good swordsman and relied too much on his immortatlity. Literally in every battle he was beaten to death almost. Aside of that, story was great. Strong 9, imo

I mean, he was pretty bad. I can't remember when exactly, but he explicitly said this one time. And at the final battle with that guy's big arm, he told him that he was used to not fighting at his best (because he was usually beaten up and dismembered).

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I gave a 10 to this manga because it kept the quality up to the end. I only missed a proper goodbye between Manji and Rin, but alas. I wonder if Manji identified the blade as being the one Doa gave to Rin, or if he forgot all about her in the ninety years that passed.

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Interesting that Manji seems to be losing his memories. I guess the worms can’t keep every aspect of his body perfect.

This manga reminds me of Rurouni Kenshin, with 100% more violence and gore. There are a lot of likable things about the manga, especially the art and the story. The characters aren’t half bad either. But it did drag a bit, especially in the beginning.
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he told him that he was used to not fighting at his best (because he was usually beaten up and dismembered).


That's bc Manji sucks at fighting he isn't that skilled on the sword he mostly relied on his immortal body that's what makes him a bad character overall.

I truly wished Kagimura and Anotsu died stabbing each other or at least maimed each other to a point where they couldn't stand anymore. But then Manji had to spoil the fun by helping Anotsu out in the end and that, to me, is what failed the manga. I was expecting Anotsu to be infuriated by that intance but he smiled and thanked Manji — what a coward.

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It was really good, but man is it a huge bummer that Rin and Manji had virtually no closure. She was basically unconscious for the tail end of the whole final battle and then they didn't even speak after that and then it ended. They were the main duo! They were pretty much the closest friends out of anyone else in the story, and they got nothing! I wish they could have at least said goodbye to each other. I understand why they didn't though, what with Manji thematically representing her quest for revenge and her being done with it. It's just sad
Nov 5, 2022 8:27 AM
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Unexpectedly great conclusion. I think it was sorta dragged out in some parts and really got annoyed with the whole enemies that should be fighting each other are honourably saving or helping each other stuff that goes on alot throughout the duration of the manga but luckily as I hoped of samura, it was mostly, well sometimes, to drag a thematic point and the final volume cements that point; Grudges/revenge, is it really worth it?. I like the take on revenge in this manga...it tells us it's probably not worth it but yet doesn't try to paint it as black as noted when Manji defends rin's need for revenge back in the early volumes and some other instances in the manga but most importantly it makes sure that it is known that there is a difference between vengeance and retribution. Overall good start, decent middle, great ending. Best part or panel of the last volume is no doubt the one where it's stated that habaki's and anotsu's swords are blade full of regret. That hits hard.
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The plot, artwork, characters, fighting styles, weapons... I think all of them were unique and inspiring for the other samurai series. Let's be honest, even their ways of dying
were original compared to other manga. It wasn't possible to predict the outcome of the battles until the very last moment. I'm quite satisfied with the realistic ending which doesn't force its way just to please the readers with some crappy happy epilogue.

What I found admirable the most is that the characters had depth and sensible purposes and reasons in order to fight with each other, and all of them was distinguishable from each other with their unique appereances. I believe the only truly villain was Shira after all, ahh he was such an original psycopath. He wasn't someone who could be intimidated, compromised or negotiated under no circumstances.

Eventually I think the strongest characters in order would be as follows: Makie, Habaki, Anotsu, Shira, Giichi. (Since it's not possible to analyse Manji's power objectively due to his immortality, I exclude him from the ranking.)
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The plot, artwork, characters, fighting styles, weapons... I think all of them were unique and inspiring for the other samurai series. Let's be honest, even their ways of dying
were original compared to other manga. It wasn't possible to predict the outcome of the battles until the very last moment. I'm quite satisfied with the realistic ending which doesn't force its way just to please the readers with some crappy happy epilogue.

What I found admirable the most is that the characters had depth and sensible purposes and reasons in order to fight with each other, and all of them was distinguishable from each other with their unique appereances. I believe the only truly villain was Shira after all, ahh he was such an original psycopath. He wasn't someone who could be intimidated, compromised or negotiated under no circumstances.

Eventually I think the strongest characters in order would be as follows: Makie, Habaki, Anotsu, Shira, Giichi. (Since it's not possible to analyse Manji's power objectively due to his immortality, I exclude him from the ranking.)
@H_Erifu I think that at some point it was mentioned that giichi is the strongest in the mugai ryu
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bittersweet I would say... I mean yeah it's kinda good but I hoped at the end at least he becomes a mortal but that didn't happen...
so that's a negetive point from me, overall great story kinda good ending I would say...
8/10

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