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Dec 27, 2008 8:36 PM
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Very nice beginning to a promising fight between Accelerator and Touma. I really liked the teachers explanation of the bath steps of having a great bath. It was funny. Touma is great! Accelerator is EVIL! Great! Stuff!
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Accelerator's attitude with Touma is the stereotypical "Gotta kill them all for the enjoyment of it" kind of attitude. I hope he'll be more interesting in the next episode.

For now I have no Idea what Touma can do against him, because his powers can't be neutralized that easily. He got in a direct contact with Touma's hand and recovered pretty much immediately... And Touma just steps into a battle with him without any kind of a tiny preparation, in a shitty beaten-up state, not even really knowing who his opponent is, and for that act, it's a -1 for him.

How did he find the designated battle area, the place where the battle was about to commence? I didn't get that part.


Overall I didn't really like the prologue of this battle. I hope there will be something to surprise me in the next episode, something more interesting in the continuation of this battle.
Dec 28, 2008 7:08 PM
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@ rarri -- Misaka told him where they were fighting because that's where she was headed.

Okay now THAT was an episode. To be honest, I was starting to lose faith in this series. Loved that they kept the part with Touma resting on Misaka's lap and her crying above him. That was my favourite part. The fight is definitely awesome, but right now I see no way for our hero to beat Accelerator. He's going to get his ass handed to him, but with Misaka following, I'm doubtful that he'll have to hold off for much longer.
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The fight sequence was awsome, no doubt about that. Story wise, Im rather confused. Its disappointing to see Index and the vampire killer out of this arc. They are the lead, especially Index, but there is barely any presence of her in several episodes already.

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i like the show but at some point it needs to make the distinction between magic vs psycic clear?

i mean since when do scientists believe in GOD?

also i didnt think it was really appropriate to have those three girls in this episode at all. the mood is dark and sort of depressing but then they add them in to lighten it? thats just not how it should work...

but thats just my 2 cents.
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Accelator vs Toumta, about time xD, this episode didn't drag on too long and the part at the end was great xD, pyromaniacs unite! Well interested in seeing where it will go from here.
Dec 28, 2008 11:50 PM
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Nice episode, Accelerator really loves kicking girls.

Man, Accelerator was pissed after he failed to kill touma with that touch. Accelerator powers are awesome, there are no limits to what he can do.
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i want more now. awesome fight. did not expect it to go like this at all. i wonder how he will get out if this especially since he method of attacking is not working at all.

it almost felt like those two were going to kiss when he was laying on her lap. or maybe i just wanted that to happen.
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Really nice episode. Loved the looked of Accelerator's face when Touma slapped his hand away. Can't wait to see how this battle turns out.

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Really nice episode. Loved the looked of Accelerator's face when Touma slapped his hand away. Can't wait to see how this battle turns out.


He could have punched him or something when Accelerator was still at wtf mode but he just stared at him 0_0 and also Accelerator's arm raising has to stop ( especially the second time he stomped the ground) it's redundant and he looks awkward doing that.
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He could have punched him or something when Accelerator was still at wtf mode but he just stared at him 0_0 and also Accelerator's arm raising has to stop ( especially the second time he stomped the ground) it's redundant and he looks awkward doing that.


He's not a rational person to begin with so that doesn't matter.

Touma kept trying to make Accelerator snap and not attacking him when he had the chance was probably a part of it. Definitely helped keeping up the whole atmosphere, I liked it.

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btw she wasn't referring to god as in God. anyone whose abilities that are far beyond your own considerably could be considered a god. in this instance, perhaps someone who surpasses everyone's abilities considerably. touma could be considered godlike since he can nullify everyone's ability to your basic human. that wouldn't be too accurate though, since his own ability has considerable limitations.
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Touma is gonna get his ass whooped lol. The best scene for me in this episode was when Touma slapped his hand away and there was that "HUH?" expression on Accelerator's face. That was funny. Anyway, onto the next episode. Hopefully the fight will intensify with Misaka getting involved or something.
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Really good episode :D A fight in the next episode xD Wonder how things will turn out

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I liked the episode. A nice beginning to the fight and I really wonder how thing will work out.
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Great episode, the beginning of the battle is really nice. I can't wait to see next episode :)
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This was a pretty dumb episode...i'm not a fan of the super shounen "against all logic i'll fight you"-type battles. Also, the voice actor for Accelerator is horrible. His voice is so over the top and bad that I really just didnt' like hearing his delivery of every line in the episode. 2/5
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I really hate this anime's cliffhangers. They always cut off at the most exciting time. It's quite annoying.

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This was a pretty dumb episode...i'm not a fan of the super shounen "against all logic i'll fight you"-type battles.


Well, if it's any consolation, Touma does have that right hand which can nullify anything. So if any of his previous battles told him anything, its that he could negate any power. Of course, it's not really clear in this episode if he understood the true nature of the Accelerator's power when it was briefly explained to him by Misaka.
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He could have punched him or something when Accelerator was still at wtf mode but he just stared at him 0_0 and also Accelerator's arm raising has to stop ( especially the second time he stomped the ground) it's redundant and he looks awkward doing that.


He's not a rational person to begin with so that doesn't matter.

Touma kept trying to make Accelerator snap and not attacking him when he had the chance was probably a part of it. Definitely helped keeping up the whole atmosphere, I liked it.


sorry, I don't quite understand the 1st one.

Touma had no exact plan to begin with. Touma just showed up, said some heroic lines and charged at him and the result, he got he's ass handed to him...

yeah, about the arm raising thing it was only the second time he stomped the ground that (for me)he looked awkward. The rest was ok :D

Man, looks like there taking a break next week T_T
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More speeches but a lot of action. It's getting better, fortunately.
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This was a pretty dumb episode...i'm not a fan of the super shounen "against all logic i'll fight you"-type battles.
Well Touma acting all badass, in a situation which currently looks hopeless, brought a smile to my face. :P His attitude, and use of logic in general, is one of the reasons why he's my favourite character in the show (for me rare for the lead in a shonen), so I don't mind him rushing in to intervene until he can figure out a plan.
Also, the voice actor for Accelerator is horrible. His voice is so over the top and bad that I really just didnt' like hearing his delivery of every line in the episode. 2/5
As for Nobuhiko Okamoto, imo choosing to exaggerate the performance only adds to Accelerator being..well.. a psycho! I particularly loved the laugh at the end :D
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LULZ at aisa and index's faces when komoe was talking about her and touma's "relationship"

the long explanations about the espers etc are a bit too long for my taste but yeah this show i still awesome. it DOES get repetitive though(explanations about the world, touma fighting some villain/semi-villain to save a girl, the use of his right hand + tactics to defeat said villain) still, the art and the characters are too much to pass up just for that certain failure. besides, there seems to be a much larger picture at work here so i guess we'll just have to wait and see where this show leads us. let's just hope it doesn't turn into dgray-man(yes i endured those 108 episodes too...just for lenalee's sake)

sady they will be skipping a week off so no ep for almost two weeks D:
Dec 29, 2008 7:32 PM

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I really hate this anime's cliffhangers. They always cut off at the most exciting time. It's quite annoying.

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This was a pretty dumb episode...i'm not a fan of the super shounen "against all logic i'll fight you"-type battles.


Well, if it's any consolation, Touma does have that right hand which can nullify anything. So if any of his previous battles told him anything, its that he could negate any power. Of course, it's not really clear in this episode if he understood the true nature of the Accelerator's power when it was briefly explained to him by Misaka.


His hand cant stop flying objects or non magic related disasters lol. That's the whole point of this fight. Touma is stuck. He can only stop Accelerators attacks when he's initiating them, not when the objects are already flying in mid air. The only reason Touma is still alive right now is because his hand is nullifying the magic that Accelerator is using to aim some of the objects. Touma cant physically stop them though which sucks but in a way it keeps him from being to powerful. He's basically a human that can force everyone around him to the level of a normal human.

As for Accelerator getting pissed at Touma for touching him. I don't think Accelerator was pissed that his attack didn't work. I think it was more so that he's probably never been physically touched or hit before and this made him extremely angry that Touma slapped his hand away. I'm sure if Accelerator noticed Touma's power he would have said something or commented again on how fun the fights going to be.

Overall this episode was crazy. I wish it was longer! It feels like these episodes just fly by.
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On the plus side the fights are good, on the down side the talking is a bore, so this episode was okay.
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Dec 29, 2008 8:38 PM
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lol...

vectors are a HUMAN CONCEPT. This means Accelerator's power is truly based what he BELIEVES... That's why Touma's power is called the Imagine Breaker. It breaks the "reality" made by magic and other espers...

Lol at Accelerator thinking that he is invincible, like a brat. Well, it is time to teach him a lesson that there are always people stronger out there...(not talking about Touma)

And Touma should really learn martial arts for god's sake. He should follow the Kenichi-style training from Ryouzanpaku....I'm sure high level martial art combined with Imagine Breaker = invincible....
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I am slowly getting used to the speech part of the anime.

Komoe sensei with the girls was win for me


FightninRunning away scene was pretty good too.
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Heh, Accelerator goes crazy because Touma touched him.
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Thankfully, after the last episode where I think we made 0 progress in the story, we actually have something interesting happen this episode. Nice fight going on, but it better have a neat finish to make up for those last few episodes.
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lol...

vectors are a HUMAN CONCEPT. This means Accelerator's power is truly based what he BELIEVES... That's why Touma's power is called the Imagine Breaker. It breaks the "reality" made by magic and other espers...

Lol at Accelerator thinking that he is invincible, like a brat. Well, it is time to teach him a lesson that there are always people stronger out there...(not talking about Touma)
Yeah. The reason for Sensei's short scenes is to introduce viewers to the world of Espers and why Espers are considered part of the tecnological faction of the world. The Magicians explained things before (in your classical "let me explain how I just did this trick that will kick your ass" way) because Touma had never seen magic before, but Touma already knows how Espers learn their techniques. He's from Academy City after all, so it would be stupid and awkward to tell him things he already know, so instead they have Komoe-sensei teach Index and Aisa, who are outsiders with zero knowledge of the secrets of the Espers. That said, the scenes do break the pace, though I don't mind them.

And yeah, I think Touma didn't quite get what Accelerator's power was. Unlike the magicians, his power is entirely used at close range, which means Touma can't do a thing to stop it unless he gets close and grabs him, and that's sorta hard to do with a shitload of objects flying toward him at high speed.

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Best episode so far on this series.
geez... that Accelerator guy is untouchable, wonder how Touma beat him.

n i'm glad no. 10032 still alive :D
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I wish it was longer! It feels like these episodes just fly by.


I've been thinking that every episode! Seriously; they only feel about 5 minutes long!

I think Touma is definitely onto the right idea, and to think about any more would be pointless. There is no preparation he could do. He doesn't have time spend a year on a Chinese mountain learning martial arts. He only just arrived in time anyway!

Accelerator is pretty awesome, and I don't think it's possible for him to be over-acted. He has defeated 10,000 Misaka already and is fighting this battle believing he is untouchable.

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that Accelerator guy is untouchable, wonder how Touma beat him.


But Touma did touch him :p

I can't imagine how Touma can escape from flying objects and massive explosions, but he's proved himself pretty robust and relentless already. He'd carry on fighting, even if every bone was broken.

The big difference here, is that there is nothing for Accelerator to "Reflect". He's always been using other's powers against them, but this time his opponent's power is to nullify attacks. It can't be used against him, since it's a passive defence.

I think with Misaka fighting together, they could easily win... but that is not an option. Misaka has to stand by and watch the next episode, just like us!
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I thought it was really funny how Touma just hit his hand away. Just sort of like unexpending thing there. I dunno how to really explain it but all I know is that I thought it was funny.
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My Thoery is that with all of accelerators "Conciededness" he will probably end up nearly beating touma to a pulp and then try to do that "Reverse the blood flow" move he did to the 10031 MISAKA. and then touma will grab him and ....i duno after that lol....misaka uses her railgun on both of em at the same time, imnot sure..
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There's something I failed to mention that did impress me. I loved how they actually used Accelerator's powers in creative ways without breaking the rules set for his power. Even the explosion was done by "accelerating" the particles in the air. I concur that the only way Touma can get a chance here is to bait him into close range. But once his power is negated, what exactly will he do? I think he will require Misaka's assistance here.

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misaka uses her railgun on both of em at the same time, imnot sure..

Now why would she railgun the guy who helped him?

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There's something I failed to mention that did impress me. I loved how they actually used Accelerator's powers in creative ways without breaking the rules set for his power. Even the explosion was done by "accelerating" the particles in the air. I concur that the only way Touma can get a chance here is to bait him into close range. But once his power is negated, what exactly will he do? I think he will require Misaka's assistance here.


The usual thing he does. Punch them (w/right hand).....
I bet Accelerator hasn't a tasted punch since he's always redirecting stuff....
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misaka uses her railgun on both of em at the same time, imnot sure..

Now why would she railgun the guy who helped him?

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There's something I failed to mention that did impress me. I loved how they actually used Accelerator's powers in creative ways without breaking the rules set for his power. Even the explosion was done by "accelerating" the particles in the air. I concur that the only way Touma can get a chance here is to bait him into close range. But once his power is negated, what exactly will he do? I think he will require Misaka's assistance here.


The usual thing he does. Punch them (w/right hand).....
I bet Accelerator hasn't a tasted punch since he's always redirecting stuff....

Let's make it easy. Use Kuroko's teleportation powers on Accelerator then make her wear a spacesuit then teleport Accelerator into space. His vectors cannot do anything to gravity. Bye bye Accelerator sadly.
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Cool fight, all he could do was slap his hand.
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Weird looking fight so far, Accelerator is quite powerful so Touma has to use some of that right hand more.
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misaka uses her railgun on both of em at the same time, imnot sure..

Now why would she railgun the guy who helped him?

Leon-Gun said:
There's something I failed to mention that did impress me. I loved how they actually used Accelerator's powers in creative ways without breaking the rules set for his power. Even the explosion was done by "accelerating" the particles in the air. I concur that the only way Touma can get a chance here is to bait him into close range. But once his power is negated, what exactly will he do? I think he will require Misaka's assistance here.


The usual thing he does. Punch them (w/right hand).....
I bet Accelerator hasn't a tasted punch since he's always redirecting stuff....

Let's make it easy. Use Kuroko's teleportation powers on Accelerator then make her wear a spacesuit then teleport Accelerator into space. His vectors cannot do anything to gravity. Bye bye Accelerator sadly.


Lemme quote something @ animesuki

I once went to myanimelist.com and someone suggested that they use Kuroko to use her teleportion powers to teleport Accelerator into space to defeat him.

It sounds like a good idea....until you realize the flaws in this plan.

1. Kuroko teleportion range is limited to about a few meters making it impossible for her to send him all the way into space. Furthermore, even if she and him were close to Earths atmosphere, she would have to concentrated on where she has to send him but because she fighting against him, adjusting herself in an unfamiliar environment and the stress will make her it impossible for her powers to work.

2. Some people seems to forget that whatever touches Accelerator will be reflected back. So even if Kuroko try to teleport him into space, it's actually her that's being teleported! Also Accelerator would kill her if she tries to touch him.

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Actually, there's another detail that irked me. "He can't do anything to the gravity"? He can change HIS VECTOR FORCES ! Forget gravity, the bastard can fly if he wants to (and he did when he proppeled himself forward to catch up to the Misaka clone). You fail to realize gravity is a vector force like all other forces that affect matter.

Anyway, you are correct. As soon as she touches him she would be in his hands. Why do you think the clone used an indirect method to kill him (poisoning the air around him)?

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Good episode, I love Accelerator's powers. I'm anxious to see how this fight turns out, and with Mikoto showing up too.
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You fail to realize gravity is a vector force like all other forces that affect matter.
Thank you, wanted to point that out myself
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Actually, there's another detail that irked me. "He can't do anything to the gravity"? He can change HIS VECTOR FORCES ! Forget gravity, the bastard can fly if he wants to (and he did when he proppeled himself forward to catch up to the Misaka clone). You fail to realize gravity is a vector force like all other forces that affect matter.

Anyway, you are correct. As soon as she touches him she would be in his hands. Why do you think the clone used an indirect method to kill him (poisoning the air around him)?


I think there is a limit to how strong he can deflect vectors.... I doubt he can survive the gravity of a black hole for example....And teleportation could possibly work on him, as well as any non-vector and non-wave based attack, which are almost non-existent. I wonder if magic can affect him. It all depends whether if magic simply warp reality or react with reality....The former one will be blocked by Accelerator, as he can block any vectors. However, if magic simply cause reality to be changes (that alchemist's illusions for example) it might work on Accelerator....
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a better episode, could of almost skipped last ep and just went right to the action here...
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I think Touma can win this fight, unless Accelerator really throw physical stuff at him. That's the only form of attack the latter can perform since Imagine Breaker can't negate a flying object. But I would really like to see how Touma evade death with that much of firepower thrown at him at the end.
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A little bit too much talking but w/e. I was screaming at the screen for Touma to use some tactics. In this case his best shot is close range and punch the douchbag, if he stays defensive he's screwed.

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punch the douchbag


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Very nice beginning to a promising fight between Accelerator and Touma. I really liked the teachers explanation of the bath steps of having a great bath. It was funny. Touma is great! Accelerator is EVIL! Great! Stuff!

Yes it does look like a promising fight. ~_~ Finally a battle that won't end so fast I'm hoping.. Gah Accelerator is awesome I like his evil laugh. :]
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Very good episode. Finally a worthwhile episode again. :]

Poor cute MISAKA 1032 *sigh*. Definitely one of my favorite characters. I would give her a nice home. ^^
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Yay, the another fight. I can't wait for the next episode.
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