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Mar 12, 2017 7:23 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Lol, Rose as a chef....
I'll give her some credit though since she can make some decent food.

Interesting to see Dezel trying to make a difference himself this episode.

The action was great, fast paced and high quality as I had expected with Alisha and Rose in Armatization form. I think it's also worth noting this episode that Lunarre decides to fight against those Hellion apparitions. Symonne's powers overwhelms Rose and the others though. Damn, someone nerf her

Solid episode, felt like watching a movie.
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Mar 12, 2017 8:28 AM
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Good episode.

Looks like the party wandered into a Valley of Dragons. I thought it was a lot harder to purify dragons but Sorey, Rose and Alisha seem to be doing pretty well, contrary to how difficult the dragon at Lady Lake was.

Action was pretty cool to watch, Armatization on Alisha and Rose was nice.

I wish we had more insight and backstory into Lunarre, he was pretty cool this episode as well. Him helping the party felt kinda random though.

Symonne becomes a dragon, the design was pretty cool. The final fight against Dragon Symonne and the Lord of Calamity begins!
Mar 12, 2017 8:51 AM
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So yeah, i don't know what was up with Lunarre. Very blurry motivations but his scenes were the best of the episode. Is he dead now?

Rose and Alisha looked great in their Armatization form.

Seems like the final battle will begin now.
Mar 12, 2017 9:08 AM
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Old DEEN is that you?
Mar 12, 2017 9:08 AM
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Lunarre's presence was random af
Also lol at the changes with symmone
Alisha gets her armatization in anime only though admittingly she looks cute.
Mar 12, 2017 9:08 AM
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Lunarre's character just got wasted.
Mar 12, 2017 9:11 AM
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Actrion said:
Lunarre's character just got wasted.


As if his character meant much in the game .
Mar 12, 2017 9:12 AM
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1. did sorey just 1-shot a dragon?
2. wtf with that random lunarre scene? he is unexplored in every zestiria medium, we know absolutely nothing about him, besides being a crazy zagi-clone that randomly showed up with no purpose before we randomly killed him off and we are suposed to care about him now? seriously?
3. why is zaveid always a punching bag in both games and now anime? he didn't even do anything
4. what's the point of the troops if they just become burden (as expected) anyway?
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Mar 12, 2017 9:13 AM
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DragonSlayer_19 said:
Actrion said:
Lunarre's character just got wasted.


As if his character meant much in the game .


I have never played any of the Tales games. I am just judging the anime.
Mar 12, 2017 9:19 AM

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Yea, guess Ufo didn't know what to do with his character since there weren't alot to work with in the game. It's not certain he's dead though.
Mar 12, 2017 9:23 AM
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WORST FILLER EVER! WORST EPISODE EVER! WORST ADAPATION EVER!

Bad points:
- Alisha did armatize
- Sorey took down a dragon? So they are not purifying them now. What a joke.
- Lunarre helps them? What was the point? We know nothing of him.
- Putting more dragons won't give the show any epicness. Since they've decided to change the story it was beyond salvation...
- Symonne turned into a dragon? What the hell?

Curse you ufotable! This is your worst job ever!
Mar 12, 2017 9:23 AM

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I feel like there are so many characters out of nowhere and so much stuff was just skipped, and instead we got the camping and eating scene. The episode felt pretty random ...
Mar 12, 2017 9:25 AM

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Actrion said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:


As if his character meant much in the game .


I have never played any of the Tales games. I am just judging the anime.


Well in the anime and game, he's just a creepy hellion who used to work with scattered bones. In the anime he follows alisha for the fun (while still being a creep) while in the game he was just a creep who causes inconveniences for Rose near the end with the help of symmone (aside from his initial appearance in elysia and ladylake) .
Mar 12, 2017 9:31 AM
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um.... Lunarre Seriously! WTF are you doing in the Whole Season 2 anyway! and you died for stupid reason!? are you joking me!?
Mar 12, 2017 9:32 AM

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um.... Lunarre Seriously! WTF are you doing in the Whole Season 2 anyway! and you died for stupid reason!? are you joking me!?
stupid character who doesn't even fit in the stupid plot died a stupid death. fitting i'd say.
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Mar 12, 2017 9:33 AM
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very good episode and more... first time see alisha can use Armatization, but not in game.
Mar 12, 2017 9:34 AM

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Lunarre just derping around wanting to be "of use for somebody" - oh welp
Symonne being the usual btch that she is and random stuff happening. This adaption is pretty random as a whole.
Nice seeing Alisha armatized with Edna, although I thought she'd fail the transformation I'm kind of impressed now :D

well, only 2 more episodes to go, no point in dropping now. It's not THAT bad after all imo
Mar 12, 2017 10:46 AM

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I like how they used to struggle so much with dragons but now that the plot requires it, Sorey can kill them without even the slightest amount of effort. Also, what a surprise that they can suddenly Armatise, just when the plot needs them to no less. And that random guy who's been randomly appearing here and there apparently dies without really doing anything. Oh, but don't worry, there's time for yet more pointless scenes like cooking, when the time could be better used to make this make more sense.
Mar 12, 2017 11:05 AM

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The adaptation still tries to jog something together from the mess of game's endgame. At least the changes so far are great. It was nice to see Alisha actually have the role she SHOULD HAVE HAD IN THE GAME. They also tried to add some relevance to one of many throw-away characters in the game and did as much as one can do in such a situation. It still does not mean I give a fuck about that Lunarre, but its better than nothing.

That said the plot makes about as much of sense as in the game - that is, none at all.

The dragon stuff was silly but then again Tales runs on power of friendship and Zestiria was the worst offender of that and I don't expect them to save every single dragon or something.

Zaveid makes zero sense just as he made zero sense in the game. Let's just hope the anime uses him as a stepping stone for Velvet instead of dragging out Zaveid stuff as final battle


Now time to wait for Velvet and the conclusion, hopefully leading to Berseria.
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The whole Lunarre thing was pretty pointless. We don't know shit about him or his motivations, but he sort of helps him just because......

Well whatever, hopefully the endgame in these last 2 episodes are better than this episode.
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Mar 12, 2017 11:26 AM

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watching alisha armatize feels like something I was never supposed to see - like the equivalent of nappa turning super saiyan. It was pretty badass nonetheless
Mar 12, 2017 11:59 AM

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Did they just show us a new definition of an ass pull? Nice 1-shots.

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It was nice to see Alisha actually have the role she SHOULD HAVE HAD IN THE GAME.

She didn't die, so idk what you're talking about.

Kirie-san said:
Worst adaptation ever.

Yep. And let's be honest -- Berseria flows nicely into Zestiria. What's the point of showing Berseria's last dungeon to people who don't play the game? As if this wasn’t bad enough, they just totally skipped the Five Lords. <lmao>

Anime-only watchers probably don't understand what's going on here.
Mar 12, 2017 12:49 PM

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Damn, I was really shocked when I saw so many dragons. Lunarre dies with so many unanswered questions behind & died like an idiot on top of that..
It's finally the final fight, they better make it epic >.>
Mar 12, 2017 12:51 PM

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Damn, I was really shocked when I saw so many dragons. Lunarre dies with so many unanswered questions behind & died like an idiot on top of that..


That's more than he ever did in the game tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mar 12, 2017 1:05 PM

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Fai said:
That's more than he ever did in the game tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haters gonna hate lol.
Mar 12, 2017 1:10 PM

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Rose and Alisha looked great in their Armatization form. They were able to purify some dragons. There were so many. Lunarre helping out was so random. He wanted to help just because. Symonne became a dragon.
Mar 12, 2017 1:16 PM

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Episode was all over the place and is obvious they didn't knew what to do with some characters (Lunarre, Symmone...) here those fates for them. Lunarre scene in particular was very jarring.

The Armatization scenes lacked impact too. One moment they are unable to do that and just when the plot needs they suddenly Armatize without problems. At least give it a transformation sequence (Alisha had one, but it was very short).

I'm kinda dissapointed with those last episodes, mostly since they dropped Eizen's plot (unless he magically appears in the North, thing who I doubt), so unless they


It's also look they are going to
judging by it title. Looks like a waste
but they will know...
Mar 12, 2017 2:09 PM

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You can feel that there should be one new season to explain stuff and tie all the holes up for a decent ending, guess the tap from BanNam is closed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This episode felt so random and the plot was all over the places.
Anime watcher will be confused, those who played the game will be utterly ridiculed by the flow of events.

BUT THERE WAS ALISHA'S KAMUI
ALISHA'S KAMUI
ALISHA'S KAMUI

The frustration when you had Alisha in the game but couldn't do Kamui and was forced to not use your waifu.
It was fkin disgusting.
Not anyore I guess.

Anyway, I'M FKIN SOLD *go forth to pay deposit for BD*
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Mar 12, 2017 2:12 PM

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Then what's the point of Lunarre lol.

Mar 12, 2017 2:16 PM
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Rose and Alisha successfully do armatization
Symmone is now a dragon
and that long haired hellion who is following Alisha all the time just wants to be useful to others eh lol
Mar 12, 2017 3:07 PM

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The frustration when you had Alisha in the game but couldn't do Kamui and was forced to not use your waifu.

That alone doesn't solve anything. Alisha gameplay was just terrible. I couldn't figure out how to use her lance properly. Why even bother lol. And let's be honest here, Alisha = very inferior version of Eleanor.
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Sense, this anime does not make.
Mar 12, 2017 3:31 PM

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It was nice to see both Rose & Alisha armatize even though it wasn't for long.

A lot of crazy things happened, Lunarre going all out like that and now Symonne is a dragon.
Mar 12, 2017 3:37 PM

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Alisha & Rose's armatization was beautiful.

Incoming battle with the Lord of Calamity.
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Mar 12, 2017 5:10 PM

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Let's meme this place up.

Mar 12, 2017 5:10 PM
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i like how anime watchers feel hype, i call that ignorance is a bliss

well after see last scene i got idea, how about change heldaff with velvet then?
i still see this through tho is funny in someway w

if this adaptation is not suck, im sure i dont come to this thread lol


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Let's meme this place up.

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i know it, this is what they really wanna do on this 2nd cour
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Hoping for the final two episodes to be somewhat decent. This second season's been quite weak, just like the first season.


Mar 12, 2017 6:12 PM

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The frustration when you had Alisha in the game but couldn't do Kamui and was forced to not use your waifu.

That alone doesn't solve anything. Alisha gameplay was just terrible. I couldn't figure out how to use her lance properly. Why even bother lol. And let's be honest here, Alisha = very inferior version of Eleanor.


I found a way to use the skills which made Alisha a better melee output but that didn't work in Zestrira ¯_(ツ)_/¯
W/O kamui, she's garbage in combat, the dlc made her the main character so I can see her a lot but I was still leaning on Rose unless I switch my difficulty way down(was playing at highest difficulty, rather challenging but with kamui it was all about xxoo with Mikleo and easy 100+ combo)
Then the utter garbage quality of the DLC hit me like the post-credit scene's fujocrap onto my face. JFC.

Not sure how people can like this game.
Or just I've played too many jrpgs in my life and got sicked of them. TOB proved me wrong tho. Zestiria was just a hot mess of jrpg done wrong in every aspect, and somehow bore the title of 20th anniversary of Tales.
Perhaps I shall appreciate that folks at this side of the planet do not hate the game as hard as the eastern side does.
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Mar 12, 2017 6:17 PM

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The "1-shot" a dragon was really not cool... Dragons are supposed to be super powerful.

Anyway, I'm not sure who said he/she was disappointed that Sorey didn't purify the dragon... but remember that the last time they did it, Sorey was knocked out for 4-5 days while Rose and Alisha were out for 9 days.

If they purified every dragon there (which is impossible), they would still be at it for many years to come...

Mar 12, 2017 6:51 PM

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really changed Lunarre to the point in which he didn't even understand what the point of him being there was lol in the end he pulled a Yamacha
Mar 12, 2017 8:06 PM

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Who the fuck was the fox dude?

Symonne who?

I'll be positive, I liked Alisha's and Rose's armatization ^^
Mar 12, 2017 8:08 PM

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this is the episode that makes me wish that Alisha would do armitization in the DLC...
Mar 12, 2017 8:13 PM
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Am I the only 1 who wished that if Sorey were to amartize with a female seraph he should turn female?
Mar 12, 2017 8:39 PM

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Pacing is off. It's like they were expecting a season three or they poorly planned out this season.
Mar 12, 2017 9:30 PM

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the creators seems to have way too extra cash to spend it on the the screen time of that fox man..also it reminds me of How to train your dragon 2...so many dragons at one place and none of them wreaking havoc even though each one is capable of any major disaster at its highest level..the discipline..



Mar 12, 2017 10:17 PM

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I thought lunarre was some mini boss they had to beat, the only thing he accomplished was being a stalker and playing the devil's advocate
Mar 13, 2017 12:48 AM

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I thought lunarre was some mini boss they had to beat, the only thing he accomplished was being a stalker and playing the devil's advocate


He is a Miniboss.
Like many have said, He also didn't have a point in the game either. So, whatever Ufotable tries to do, Lunnare's role is already fucked.

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Mar 13, 2017 1:20 AM
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Well, interesting episode. It made me look around the Zestiria wikia a little, and I must admit, I am a little confused.

Since I also have the game, and I plan on playing it after the anime ends, does anyone know how much does the anime take from the games in terms of story? Or does the anime follow the story of the game at all?

And then I also just found out that the whole thing with Velvet Crowe was from a different Tales of game, after finding a few episodes ago that those scenes with her in the happened long before Sorey showed up, in terms of chronology.

So while I like the series, I am confused.
Mar 13, 2017 1:47 AM

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Can't really comment on the negative side since I haven't played the game thus I can't compare it.

However, as whole it was an interesting episode. Alisha and Rose's Armatization form was beautiful!

Mar 13, 2017 5:07 AM

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Ha!? What happened to the normal humans!?

No reaction from them at all!
No reaction to the dragons
No reaction to Alisha and Rose's Armatization
WTF!?

That Hyouma too fighting in different place, so disjointed.
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