General Discussion Thread 2.2 (Spoilers)

HanashiD4 said:
Is there a change of timing/pace when Subaru and Puck explains about the situation in regards to his disappearance? (Between LN and WN)

Gilgameshuu said:


It was off-screened in the LN according to the wiki.

Syureria said:
Is this only up to the Everlasting Contract Arc or It is the beginning of the Stars That Engrave History Arc? When viewed from the previous season, for one season it requires at least 4th volumes.

Gilgameshuu said:
Only Arc 4, actually it requires 3 volumes, some shows even only use 2 volumes for a 1 cour season. 4 episodes per volumes is the standard pacing of Re:Zero Season 2, only exception is Volume 12 which was covered in 3 episodes.

Roch2001 said:
what the fuck is going on here. I came to make a post on episode 39 and everyone is losing there shit and there is all kinds of chaos. Multiple random threads filled with nonsense. If I could end all of humanity with a pill, I would choose the red pill and hope everyone posting in these discussion threads were gone.

Gilgameshuu said:
Otto Suwen + Reason to Believe

mozgow said:
So we were both right xD

The title is Otto Suwen and Reason to Believe :-)

Gilgameshuu said:
In the episode poll score I think it can easily go above 90%, I think 92% - 94% is where it will end up.

rakp333 said:


That is too optimistic. Check these episodes:
1) Parent & Child - 83.82%
2) Taste of Death - 90.47%
3) Value of Life - 91.92%

Parent & Child had an excellent adaptation, in my opinion. But some people tend to dislike these kinds of episodes because they prefer more thrill, adventure, and/or suffering. Lol. Many people don't care about lengthy dialogues or exposition and find them boring.

Gilgameshuu said:


I'm pretty sure the only reason why people disliked Parent & Child was because it was really slow, I too felt like it was quite dragged a bit, it definitely didn't need 29 minutes and apart from two short moments(Although I cried in both these moments), there wasn't really anything special. However this episode is good from start to finish with the perfect blend of action, thrill, dialogue, and unexpected hype moments, but we'll see soon enough the score once the episode drops.

Gilgameshuu said:
However, this episode is good from start to finish with the perfect blend of action, thrill, dialogue, and unexpected hype moments, but we'll see soon enough the score once the episode drops.

mozgow said:
Predictions how much will the next episode adapt?

Episode 40 adapted volume 13 till the end of chapter 6. There are about 40 pages left in the volume - which is too few for a full episode. So they will add stuff from the next volume.

The question is: what will they do with Emilia's first trial, which is split between many chapters? Will they move it, so everything is adapted in one episode, or will they keep the LN's order? Any leaks about that?

rakp333 said:


There are around 53 pages left in the volume, going by the English LN. That is enough content for an episode. I think they will adapt it properly. My predictions:

• The title will be "Love Letters"
  
• They will adapt the fight, Garfiel's backstory, and the leftover stuff in vol13.
  
• It will end with Emilia making the Subaru pose in front of Echidna.
  
• (probably) play the OP/ED
  

I don't think they will add stuff from volume 14 or max, only a few bits of Emilia's conversation with Echidna from the 1st chapter. They will have 9 episodes left to adapt vol14 + 15, which seems enough i.m.o if they rush the action & fighting scenes in vol14,15 (I don't want them to spend a lot of screentime on action & fight scenes given the current production quality).



Even I am thinking about that. Emilia's trial spans ~120 pages divided between 3 chapters. I don't think it is possible to adapt in a single episode. They will probably adapt it in 1.5 - 2 episodes. The rest ~130 pages will be adapted in another 2-2.5 episodes.

I don't think they will follow the LN order. Since the events happen in parallel, they have the freedom to rearrange things.

My predictions:

• Episode 4 will adapt the entirety of chap1, half of chap 2, and end with the Regulus appearance (beginning of chap3).
  
• Episode 5 will adapt the remaining chap3 and half of chap4. It will end with this scene, with an S1 Ep15-like credit roll.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Episode 6 will adapt the remaining half of chap2,4 and most parts of chap5.
  
• Episode 7 will complete the rest of vol14, i.e., remaining bits of chap5, followed by chap6 and chap7.
  

I am not able to figure a good ending point for episode 6. The studio has a knack for ending with cliffhangers, so I am not sure what they plan on doing.

mozgow said:
I the latest episode of Break Time there was a nice reference to arc 5 :)

Gilgameshuu said:


Episode 8 will adapt Chapter 1 + 2 titled Roswaal Manor, The Final Day/Hapiness Reflected in the Water. (Totals to 66 JP pages)

Although 84 pages seems a bit packed, they might put a bit of the beginning parts of Choose Me together with Starting from Revenge, then Episode 11 is remaining parts of Choose Me and Chapter 8.

rakp333 said:


Are you a Japanese LN reader?

I am aware that Emilia's second trial is re-written in the LN. In the WN, there is a scene in Emilia's 2nd trial where she hesitates from looking into the mirror because she is afraid of her own appearance. But then she remembers Subaru's, "I love your beautiful silver hair, shining eyes that are like gemstones, etc.." and musters enough courage to face herself in the mirror.

I hope this scene was not cut because it is necessary to shut ignorant people who deem Subaru's confession to be shallow as he cited some of her physical characteristics. People don't understand how important it is for Emilia to have someone say they love her appearance.


I hope they do it this way. Arc4 arguably has the best conclusion for any ReZero Arc, in my opinion. Them rushing the conclusion is something I would not hope for.

Gilgameshuu said:
So we won't know until Vol 15 comes out in Feb, or you can ask Swirlydragon, I think he read Vol 15 from a different translation since EN translations are slow asf.

Enrav1x said:
can someone explain me why anime decided to remove shadow garden part because i was not not aware of this since i started to read web novel from the start of arc 4

Gilgameshuu said:


Episode 41 PV is out!
Title: The Stone of Kuwen Rises Not For One Person

Enrav1x said:
@mozgow ohhhk so it's a LN change

ExcaliburAO said:
I’m a web novel reader. Was the black serpent in the light novel? Because I really want to see it in the anime

mozgow said:
I'm surprised so few anime-onlies talk about Echidna calling Emilia "witch's daughter". For me it was one of the biggest WTF in arc 4.

JarlBallin said:
Does anyone know when Hector will show up or he is completely cut out? I dont know in which chapter he showes up in the LN but in the WN it was before the battle against Garfiel.

rakp333 said:


Even I am very surprised. But the episode was pretty packed. People probably stopped paying attention towards the end. Lol.

MaouHero said:


It's just that witches are equivalent to Sin Archbishop, so someone 400 years ago calling her a witch wouldn't be unlikely.

gappasaurus said:


Meh, not really a surprise if you’re paying close enough attention. Frozen Bond clearly shows that there’s a lot more to Emilia than “cute elf girl” and that she poses a large enough possible threat to the world to warrant death (according to Melakuera anyway). And she’s been repeatedly associated (justifiably or not) with the Witch since Ep1, so the possibility that it’s actually somehow true is not that giant a leap 🙂

mozgow said:
I've moved the discussion here so we could talk about it without the spoiler tag (I hope you do not mind).

Hmm... some other Witch living long enough to give birth to Emilia, huh?

Interesting theory. Then which Witch Factor it could be? It's unlikely it was any of the Witch Factors given by Flugel to the funding members of the cult. Then it leaves only Pandora's Vainglory. Hmm... this theory seems plausible.

I think we need to wait for Emilia's third trial to see what will be shown there, as it might contain some clues about Emilia's past (even though it's all about the future).

rakp333 said:
Tappei did establish in one of his Q/As that the title of a "Witch" is inherited and that there were witches before the set of 7 witches we know of.

rakp333 said:
Another possibility is that Emilia's chronological age is inaccurate, and she is actually 400 years old, somehow. The age numbers were just something that Subaru speculated from whatever Emilia remembered. Either Emilia has more gaps in her memory, or there is some time travel kind of twist connected to Emilia's birth.

mozgow said:
Oh, I did not know that. Then maybe she was both her and Satalla's mother? That would explain why they look so similar.

why her father is not there?

In one of the trials Arch said that the Elior Forest was created just for her [Emilia]. So I think they (Flugel, Fortuna, the Witch Cult ?) created it to be a perfect growing ground for a special child (Emilia). A child that could open the Seal. Pandora said that only two people can do that and I'm certain Satella is the other one.

Oh... then maybe Satella is the first, failed attempt?

rakp333 said:
Another possibility (I read this theory somewhere on the internet) is that their appearances were morphed due to the Envy factor. Witch Factors can manifest in different ways in different users. They can influence an owner's mind (Petelgeuse), but I feel it is also likely that sometimes they can influence the owner's body. For example:

• Regulus and Echidna have some similarity (hair color)
• Ley and Daphne have similarities (observe their face and teeth especially)

It could be possible that Satella and Emilia look similar because both have the Envy factor?

rakp333 said:
I have a gut feeling that Puck was her biological father, who transferred his soul into a cat spirit with Echidna's help.

rakp333 said:
Yeah. I remember that. But from whatever is established so far, it seems like opening that seal is very dangerous. I distinctly remember Fortuna saying something along, "This time the world might end" (which strongly suggests that this was not the first attempt).

rakp333 said:
But more importantly, I don't understand why Flugel, Fortuna, etc., would be interested in raising a key that could potentially end the world?
And if they really were interested in opening the seal, then why wait? Why hide Emilia? What were they waiting for?

The answer depends on what lies behind that seal, and I don't think we will get this information any time soon.

rakp333 said:
I strongly feel so. I think the calamity that occurred 400 years back was connected to someone's (Pandora?) attempt at opening that seal.
Or it is also possible that Envy was sealed there, and we were fed wrong information that she was sealed in the Witch Sealing Shrine beyond the Tower.