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Aug 2, 2022 11:10 AM
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Series lost its purpose after Season 1. There was stakes like World Items controlling Shalltear but Overlord throwed away this stake and forced us to watch some generic lizards, dwarfs or other generic race backgrounds. Ignoring important topics like Slane Theocracy.

I don't think this is good worldbuilding or something, i don't understand what author are building up to because series will be over in 2 Volumes and everything will go the waste pretty much. Story gets less interesting and boring each season and awful CGI is not helpful either.
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Aug 2, 2022 11:24 AM
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I disagree and will not elaborate further
Aug 2, 2022 11:29 AM
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I kinda got spoiled about the source material but the world items thing and shalltear is going on in the latest volume iirc
Aug 2, 2022 11:29 AM
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when its in the humans pov i find it kinda boring tbh so i actually like it when they focus on what ainz is doing
Aug 2, 2022 11:59 AM
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this IS good world building, its just slower than you'd like it to be, you say important topics like the Downe theocracy are ignored, but it's made very clear they'll be brought up again later, be patient, this is clearly going somewhere.
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Aug 2, 2022 12:00 PM
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99% posts on MAL are just kids trolling and crying why they dont like something for attention. I have yet to see a meaningful post on MAL.
Aug 2, 2022 12:11 PM
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Mate, if you dislike the Anime so much, Just don't watch it. Set it as dropped and give rating as you see fit. But from this, all I can say is that your opinion is just as valuable as your skills in English. It isn't.
Aug 2, 2022 12:13 PM
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this anime is so great I wish there was 200 episodes of it
Aug 2, 2022 12:17 PM
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_Kuragari_Azami_ said:
Mate, if you dislike the Anime so much, Just don't watch it. Set it as dropped and give rating as you see fit. But from this, all I can say is that your opinion is just as valuable as your skills in English. It isn't.

Did you saw my watching list? Overlord is the last series i should drop this season.
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Aug 2, 2022 12:22 PM
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animeAddict17 said:
this anime is so great I wish there was 200 episodes of it

It wont be too Much😂, i want anothers 60/70 max.
Aug 2, 2022 1:35 PM
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Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else
Aug 2, 2022 1:38 PM

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Im the first to ask for stakes but here the stakes are simply different. The question is "can Ainz rule peacefully" or will he have to destroy everyone, the easy way?

What kind of futile resistance will the humans mount? Stuff like that.

There are still strong beeings and items left which can harm them, but if you want Nazarick to completely lose then you can stop watching now. Author confirmed a happy end.
"This emotion is mine alone.
It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
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Aug 2, 2022 1:41 PM

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First off, the Slane Theocracy did appear in this season and there's no proof they won't appear again. They don't have to appear whenever YOU want them to.

Second off, there are more than 2 volumes left to adapt so no clue what you're talking about.

DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else

Are you arguing in his favour?




Aug 2, 2022 1:42 PM

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I just want Ains to make love to his female servants
Aug 2, 2022 1:44 PM
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The Slane Theocracy has been put on the back-burner for a while, but in volume 15 and 16, the currently releasing volumes, they are a main focus, along with the fabled God-kin we've been told are significantly stronger than the other threats Ains has faced.
Honestly whilst you can probably tell I like Overlord, the world-building can be slow and the fact that it'll end in 2-3 volumes leaves me with more questions than answers. I felt like there was a lot more potential, I guess, to explore the rich world Maruyama had set up.
Aug 2, 2022 2:07 PM
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RioFS said:
First off, the Slane Theocracy did appear in this season and there's no proof they won't appear again. They don't have to appear whenever YOU want them to.

Second off, there are more than 2 volumes left to adapt so no clue what you're talking about.

DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else

Are you arguing in his favour?
How would it be in his favor? Especially since most of anime they rate are lower than 7
Aug 2, 2022 2:09 PM

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DarkHomieC said:
RioFS said:
First off, the Slane Theocracy did appear in this season and there's no proof they won't appear again. They don't have to appear whenever YOU want them to.

Second off, there are more than 2 volumes left to adapt so no clue what you're talking about.


Are you arguing in his favour?
How would it be in his favor? Especially since most of anime they rate are lower than 7

Why would that be relevant to the criticism at hand?




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RioFS said:
DarkHomieC said:
How would it be in his favor? Especially since most of anime they rate are lower than 7

Why would that be relevant to the criticism at hand?
Meaning that they would already be biased to Re:Zero, so anything lower than that in the same genre would already have bias against it
Aug 2, 2022 2:25 PM

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DarkHomieC said:
RioFS said:

Why would that be relevant to the criticism at hand?
Meaning that they would already be biased to Re:Zero, so anything lower than that in the same genre would already have bias against it

You mean the Fantasy genre? That's probably not the case since they gave FMA:B a 8. That said, the criticism they gave does not involve Re: Zero so I highly doubt it but its still possible given that signature.

In any case, my question was how bringing Re: Zero in the equation answers their criticism.




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Watching some random Lizards was actually boring but the new season is great so far. I don't know what Overlord does special but it's really interesting. I think it's dialogs. They somehow make the dialogs so interesting
Aug 2, 2022 2:40 PM

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Nah this is actually good world building. Its the only isekai I've come across where the world they get transported to actually feels alive with its own history and people not just a generic fantasy world that has nothing interesting going on until mr.mc arrived (like re zero obviously) ! Your claim about overlord purpose is completely false. Overlord was never about stakes and if it was I would've dropped it at the first season
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Aug 2, 2022 6:00 PM

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DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else

Says the guy rated

Goblin Slyer 10/10
Dr. Stone 10/10
All Fate Series even the worst ones 10/10
Black Clover 10/10
Slime 10/10
Akudama Drive 10/10
Bleach 10/10
Random generic harem isekais 9/10
Domestic Girlfriend 9/10
Fairy Tail 9/10
etc. while Re:Zero 5/10

saying i'm the Re:Zero fanboy without realizing he is the re:zero hater.

Anyway topic is about Overlord and Overlord is not rival of Re:Zero or anything. I rated Overlord 6/10, i think its okay series but i never thinked even once comparing with masterpieces like Re:Zero because difference is that huge. You can compare Overlord with other 6/10's in my list.
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Aug 2, 2022 6:16 PM
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That's Overlord's main appeal though, the politics and the world building from various kinds of creatures there be it undead, human, or demi-human like those lizards. it wouldn't be fun seeing Ainz and his overpowered undead armies just steamrolling everything they see easily.

I'd rather see lizards in their habitats trying to defend against undead armies than watching that ReZero's borefest Sanctuary arc with its unending talk no jutsu sessions.



(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥
Aug 2, 2022 6:23 PM
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Okeanix said:
DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else

Says the guy rated

Goblin Slyer 10/10
Dr. Stone 10/10
All Fate Series even the worst ones 10/10
Black Clover 10/10
Slime 10/10
Akudama Drive 10/10
Bleach 10/10
Random generic harem isekais 9/10
Domestic Girlfriend 9/10
Fairy Tail 9/10
etc. while Re:Zero 5/10

saying i'm the Re:Zero fanboy without realizing he is the re:zero hater.

Anyway topic is about Overlord and Overlord is not rival of Re:Zero or anything. I rated Overlord 6/10, i think its okay series but i never thinked even once comparing with masterpieces like Re:Zero because difference is that huge. You can compare Overlord with other 6/10's in my list.
That’s a way different tone, than what you’re using in my DMs, not to mention I already explained to you that I clearly rate the animes based of their genres, unlike you who clearly rates Re:Zero “The best written anime” as you said in my DMs. And if you want to deny it I can just make a thread showing the DMs. (Under overlord season 4)
Aug 2, 2022 6:59 PM

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I mean, Demiurge clearly says in chap 5 of this season he's got a plan for Slane Theocracy, but he wants Ainz to listen to it. It's not Overlord forgetting about topics but putting them aside to let growth other ones (and i'm pretty sure in season 3 and probably 2 they've been mentioned).

Aaand i don't think the main stake of Overlord is world items. The main stakes of Overlord clearly are Ainz dealing politically with this new world and trying to find a human player. Some people can be attracted by Ainz's power or action scenes but Overlord clearly doesn't invest too much in those things cuz we all know Ainz just can beat even Chuck Norris at this point.

The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing.

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Aug 2, 2022 7:22 PM
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DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else


I think Re:Zero is awesome but I also like overlord why you gotta hate Re:Zero ;p
Aug 2, 2022 7:23 PM
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Wavey_Nooby said:
I just want Ains to make love to his female servants

You’re pretty creepy… and I don’t think it’s going to happen. In the LN it says that ainz sees the npc’s as him and his friends children so I don’t think he has much romantic interest. Also he has no dick so…
Aug 2, 2022 7:26 PM
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Also agree with what some of the other commenters are sayings, I really think you haven't paid any attention at ALL to any of the seasons if you don't know what the main stake is in this.

He literally changed his freaking name just for one purpose, if ANY of his friends are out there (y'know the people he's referencing in at least one way or another EVERY episode) that they will know that there guild is there and they have a place to go. Legit EVERYTHING he does or talks about is for this reason lol.

He's also been cautious of world tear items EVER since it happened, I mean Albedo carries around a freaking ball on a staff just so she can't get mind controlled.. I feel like you might not watch this thing at all.
Aug 2, 2022 7:26 PM
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Okeanix said:
Series lost its purpose after Season 1. There was stakes like World Items controlling Shalltear but Overlord throwed away this stake and forced us to watch some generic lizards, dwarfs or other generic race backgrounds. Ignoring important topics like Slane Theocracy.

I don't think this is good worldbuilding or something, i don't understand what author are building up to because series will be over in 2 Volumes and everything will go the waste pretty much. Story gets less interesting and boring each season and awful CGI is not helpful either.

You are very wrong, but I don’t feel like explaining. Just read the LN. It’s a masterpiece
Aug 2, 2022 7:27 PM
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aziryn said:
DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else


I think Re:Zero is awesome but I also like overlord why you gotta hate Re:Zero ;p
I don’t hate Re:Zero, I was just calling the person out
Aug 2, 2022 7:47 PM
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read the latest new volume then comeback
Aug 2, 2022 8:54 PM

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Comander-07 said:
Author confirmed a happy end.

He should define "happy" though. Happy just like in Demiurge's "happy farm"? Or Ainz successful in allying with/conquering everyone else and creating his utopia? There's quite a bit of difference between the two.

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Have you ever heard about "worldbuilding"? Or "build up"? I know the instant gratification generation would love to see action constantly, but you're not getting that here.I wouldn't recommend you reading the overlord ln either, I just know you'd be bored within a couple of pages.
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orzel286 said:
Comander-07 said:
Author confirmed a happy end.

He should define "happy" though. Happy just like in Demiurge's "happy farm"? Or Ainz successful in allying with/conquering everyone else and creating his utopia? There's quite a bit of difference between the two.

@ OP
Have you ever heard about "worldbuilding"? Or "build up"? I know the instant gratification generation would love to see action constantly, but you're not getting that here.I wouldn't recommend you reading the overlord ln either, I just know you'd be bored within a couple of pages.

I know the difference between good worldbuilding and bad worldbuilding. Adding random dwarfs, lizards is not good worldbuilding.
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Okeanix said:
Series lost its purpose after Season 1. There was stakes like World Items controlling Shalltear but Overlord throwed away this stake and forced us to watch some generic lizards, dwarfs or other generic race backgrounds. Ignoring important topics like Slane Theocracy.

I don't think this is good worldbuilding or something, i don't understand what author are building up to because series will be over in 2 Volumes and everything will go the waste pretty much. Story gets less interesting and boring each season and awful CGI is not helpful either.

disagree.. sounds like you're the type that likes 1 season animes. I do like the build up. I do dislike how some unnecessary characters have too much screen time and some fav characters have less. But all in due time I guess...
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orzel286 said:
Comander-07 said:
Author confirmed a happy end.

He should define "happy" though. Happy just like in Demiurge's "happy farm"? Or Ainz successful in allying with/conquering everyone else and creating his utopia? There's quite a bit of difference between the two.

@ OP
Have you ever heard about "worldbuilding"? Or "build up"? I know the instant gratification generation would love to see action constantly, but you're not getting that here.I wouldn't recommend you reading the overlord ln either, I just know you'd be bored within a couple of pages.
happy end for Nazarick specifically
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Aug 3, 2022 10:20 AM
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What you said was something that I also wondered about what season 2 and 3 wanted to give me...The last act of season 1 got me interested in Overlord, but it got lost in the course of the story.
In season four, I can see which two ideas fit together: finding out if there is another player besides Momonga and the pursuit of knowledge and power through exploration of the world and races.And by the OP, it looks like we'll have something that was forgotten in the first season.
As for the CGI, I don't really have a problem with that, but ok. And the end of the story in two volumes was something I couldn't wait for...
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What you described seems perfectly fine? Nothing has changed, Ain’s responsibilities and goals have only increased and expanded. I think you are diminishing the value of all the other characters and their motivations. Overlord is so good because it just doesn’t have a revolve around the MC being OP and having everything go his way with a nice harem on top. Ainz has failed many times, and the threat of other worldly beings is always constant, hence why he is choosing to behave the way he is currently. He almost lost Shalltear, one of his beloved friend’s creations. But honestly, it just sounds like Overlord isn’t your cup of tea anymore which is understandable.
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Okeanix said:
DarkHomieC said:
Seeing how this person is a massive Re:Zero fanboy and how they rate animes. I don’t have to say anything else

Says the guy rated

Goblin Slyer 10/10
Dr. Stone 10/10
All Fate Series even the worst ones 10/10
Black Clover 10/10
Slime 10/10
Akudama Drive 10/10
Bleach 10/10
Random generic harem isekais 9/10
Domestic Girlfriend 9/10
Fairy Tail 9/10
etc. while Re:Zero 5/10

saying i'm the Re:Zero fanboy without realizing he is the re:zero hater.

Anyway topic is about Overlord and Overlord is not rival of Re:Zero or anything. I rated Overlord 6/10, i think its okay series but i never thinked even once comparing with masterpieces like Re:Zero because difference is that huge. You can compare Overlord with other 6/10's in my list.
bro fate is better than re zero its good but fate is better
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I just want Ains to make love to his female servants
bone daddy about to bone some b*tches lmao
Aug 3, 2022 4:48 PM

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Someone needs to hire this person, he will save the animation industry. Please
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So, you havent got the point of overlord? Try watching It again and pay attention this time, maybe you will get the reasoning of things
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Okeanix said:
Series lost its purpose after Season 1. There was stakes like World Items controlling Shalltear but Overlord throwed away this stake and forced us to watch some generic lizards, dwarfs or other generic race backgrounds. Ignoring important topics like Slane Theocracy.

I don't think this is good worldbuilding or something, i don't understand what author are building up to because series will be over in 2 Volumes and everything will go the waste pretty much. Story gets less interesting and boring each season and awful CGI is not helpful either.


1st you forgot to add at the end of your post "to me" because for you it might be boring but for the vast majority of us it is not.
2nd You don't understand the point of the story at all. Like in One Punch Man, this is told from the perspective of those around the MC. In Overlord's case, the terror that other beings like humans, lizard man, dwarves or humans experience. The idea of the story is not to give you a Mega Op character and his adventures (like in SAO) but the idea is to make you feel what those who orbit the world of Ains feel.
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99% posts on MAL are just kids trolling and crying why they dont like something for attention. I have yet to see a meaningful post on MAL.


But you can't deny that a large percentage of fans are kids with no self respect or brains who defend garbage by claiming it's the best anime ever, as is the case with the vast majority of SAO lovers.
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have u not realized that every major plot point of overlord so far has the slane theocracy written all over it?

patience dude, this is great storytelling and world building

also we have lots of volumes left wdym 2?
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I hate to agree with a re:zero fan, but you're right on this one.
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Just let Ainz be happy man, he doesn't have a lot more than this
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I agree, just read the light novel
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99% posts on MAL are just kids trolling and crying why they dont like something for attention. I have yet to see a meaningful post on MAL.

there hasnt been something more true which has been trued of all the things which have been trued.
Aug 6, 2022 6:19 AM

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Okeanix said:
Adding random

So a)you DON'T know anything about worldbuilding; b)you were watching at 10x or not paying any attention at all. Therefore your opinions are invalid.
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orzel286 said:
Comander-07 said:
Author confirmed a happy end.

He should define "happy" though. Happy just like in Demiurge's "happy farm"? Or Ainz successful in allying with/conquering everyone else and creating his utopia? There's quite a bit of difference between the two.

@ OP
Have you ever heard about "worldbuilding"? Or "build up"? I know the instant gratification generation would love to see action constantly, but you're not getting that here.I wouldn't recommend you reading the overlord ln either, I just know you'd be bored within a couple of pages.


I am not sure if I have heard about those things sorry
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