Shibou Yuugi de Meshi wo Kuu. Episode 7 Discussion

we lost are only antagonist and there successor in the same episode.

Idk seeing how it turned out with yuki showing emotions and stuff, this feels like if ayanokoji suddenly had emotions. Can’t say I enjoyed it but we move. It’s not only that but she lived cuz “anime” everything felt so forced, I’ve enjoyed the anime so far but this one was a stinker imo. All that build up for a lack luster ending to the arc.

@lVersatile Ayanakouji purposefully trained himself to become the ideal of a rational, intellectual person. Yuki, on the other hand, simply hides her emotions so they don't interfere with her struggle for survival and maintain her sanity during it. This is part of the author's philosophy. You could see that she had emotions when she saved the other girls or developed a liking for Mishiro.

Maybe it's because I read ahead, but without spoiling the LN, I really think this episode cut out a lot of the arc's actual meat for the sake of being artsy. This could have been mind blowing. Instead it's just....okay.

@FandomLasts4ever If you've watched or read Oshi no Ko, you've probably heard the idea that adaptations are forced to generalize things to convey their core meaning through a new, sometimes less "convenient" format. But I think the visual style also played a big role here, which is why they simply couldn't waste time on info bumps.

@lVersatile Well, you don't have to read every interview with the creators to understand the "deeper meaning" behind things. For example, I didn't even realize the show had a puppet theater metaphor until I saw the Wikipedia entry.

@RobertBobert
The way I interpreted yuki was that it felt like the anime teetered on the line between her actually caring for some ppl and her pretending to care for the sake of making it to the end with the exception being mishiro. Think of the end of ep1. If you’ve read the LN of classroom of the elite it gave a similar vibe where you think she might care to just find out she doesn’t actually or maybe she did but she gotta win so she gotta do what she gotta do. That’s the vibe she gave until now. Never read the source for this or maybe I’m just misinterpreting what that anime is trying to show.

Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering how exactly that system works.

Maybe it's because I read ahead, but without spoiling the LN, I really think this episode cut out a lot of the arc's actual meat for the sake of being artsy. This could have been mind blowing. Instead it's just....okay.

@FandomLasts4ever I feel like this is the problem with anime being broadcasted on TV (assuming they had to cut out a lot of part due to scheduling?). They're forced to be fit within a certain duration to not interfere with other programs.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong tho

Just finished the episode and I'm a bit confused. Why did Riko die from the shot but not Yuki? Was it a "the floor is lava" situation? Do you need to reach a certain threshold there? Was it the gold card? No clue

liked the episode otherwise

Just finished the episode and I'm a bit confused. Why did Riko die from the shot but not Yuki? Was it a "the floor is lava" situation? Do you need to reach a certain threshold there? Was it the gold card? No clue

liked the episode otherwise

@mikasareads I need this to be answered, too. I did not get it.

@FandomLasts4ever If you've watched or read Oshi no Ko, you've probably heard the idea that adaptations are forced to generalize things to convey their core meaning through a new, sometimes less "convenient" format. But I think the visual style also played a big role here, which is why they simply couldn't waste time on info bumps.

@lVersatile Well, you don't have to read every interview with the creators to understand the "deeper meaning" behind things. For example, I didn't even realize the show had a puppet theater metaphor until I saw the Wikipedia entry.

Ngl Shiboyugi had kinda been dulling on me a little these last couple episodes but this episode really picked back up, the game itself was really boring it was just your basic old team deathmatch type of stuff compared to the last two it was pretty dull but I think they writer sacrificed a interesting game to fulfil Mishiro/Yuuki's rivalry.

Putting the game itself aside this episode was amazing because it really showed a lot such as how Yuuki really isn't any different from any of the other girls, when she came so close to death at Mishiro's hands she wasn't at first fighting back or even annoyed she was just scared like everyone else in these games are when they reach the end of their road and honestly half way through I was actually routing for Mishiro.

I think Mishiro as a character has been great, the started of self centred and full of herself and at the defeat of Yuuki realised her own flaws and went to meticulously purse the games in the hopes to better herself and reach Yuuki but when she finally sees her in another game it happens to be when Yuuki's playing really subpar and seeing how pissed Mishiro was at that made her really interesting to the point I actually wanted to see her win. But low and behold typical of course Yuuki ended up winning and killing her, unironically wanted Mishiro to win and take the place as the mc but like beyond Yuuki I doubt she'd have a reason to keep going in the games so narratively kinda have to keep Yuuki.

Mishiro got what she wanted in the end and had a beautiful death, especially compared to some of the other girls in this anime. Sad though because she was the only good character besides Yuuki. So I really hope they introduce a new reoccurring character and don't kill her off so quickly, that and I hope the next games more interesting (Don't think I forgot about whatever tf candle woods was I really wanna see what that game was since it seemed to have a reputation among the girls in the earlier game).

I was curious how the exit worked since what would happen if a girl tried to leave without a tag but hell I suppose big gun solved that question. This episode was amazing but I think the author could have done something really special if Mishiro was the one to win this game and continue the anime. But hell lets just fall back on your typical anime stuff I guess.

I can't complain though this animes been amazing regardless, maybe im just sad the only other good characters dead.

@Ranma-Kun Yuuki said she got lucky as in the guns were meant to shoot Yuuki because she never had a tag but Riko accidently got shot trying to end Yuuki herself, So Yuuki took the tag from Riko's dead body so naturally the guns stood down.

@Ranma-Kun Yuuki said she got lucky as in the guns were meant to shoot Yuuki because she never had a tag but Riko accidently got shot trying to end Yuuki herself, So Yuuki took the tag from Riko's dead body so naturally the guns stood down.

@Phantom_373 Ok, thanks for trying to explain, but it definitely didnt look like that too me.
There is a bullet inside the tag, so there must be another bullet hit Riko in the head or something, but no bullets hit Yuuki? So the guns are the worst guns ever?? Is that it?
Also it looks like Yuuki shoved Riko aside, BUT she definitely is overlapping like she is between Riko and the guns. It looks off.

@Ranma-Kun The bullet did aim for yuuki but it hit her tag(which she got after killing Mishiro) luckily and she got saved

@Phantom_373

@FandomLasts4ever Summarizing requires cutting things down because you're limited by time and technical capabilities. This isn't the most expensive 12-episode series, nor is it a AAA adaptation for couple of cours.

@RobertBobert Cutting down also doesn't mean cutting out the main core of the story.

I have two other series I'm following right now that cut a lot of information from their light novel sources (one of which is being animated by the same studio with less of a budget than Shiboyugi), but they still kept enough that it actually doesn't take away from the characters or the story that much overall. Would it be better if they kept the cut content? Probably. But it doesn't do so at the complete detriment of the characters. Unlike here, where its getting to the point where I wonder if this actually is an attempt at an adaptation or not.

This episode left me wondering "Why should I care about Yuki and her goal of 99 death games?" in the anime. Where as the manga and light novel make her emotions and motivations more present and interesting, here we're not really given anything.

And besides, the argument that they need to cut things down for time doesn't really work when they went and added things

@Only_Pros But Mishiro did not have a tag? She refused it from Riko, right? So, Riko should have two tags. Yuuki saw the 0 tag on the floor, after getting punched by Riko. I guess it fell out at some point? IF Yuuki got the tag at that point, which I assume, it would make sense, that she pulls the tag out of her back towel and throws it on the ground after Riko got shot. But why would the guns shoot in the first place then?
This all does not make sense to me. Riko lives and fights with Yuuki in the first frames we see the guns shooting, so Yuuki couldn't have killed her and stole the tag before that!? Huh???

@FandomLasts4ever I really recommend you remember or rewatch the Oshi no Ko arc about this, because otherwise it will be a debate between the deaf and the blind.

@PettankoLover Mishiro didn't want to kill her in her moment of weakness, as that would devalue her ambition to surpass her. She favored defeating her at any cost, but through dominance, as that was what had sparked her rivalry in the first place.

@RobertBobert Please do not patronize me by trying to ignore very valid points by saying "you should just go watch this other anime about this topic to understand".

You haven't said anything that actually refuted any of my points.

The anime cut a lot of content from the light novel. And most of it is not because they needed to pare it down. They did it because the things they cut do not serve the artsy aesthetic they've decided to go with.



These were all the parts that made Golden Bath so fantastic in the light novel. And they cut it all out, for no real reason other than to make the anime look deep and pretty.