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Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Sheryl ftmfw

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And to think I was just hoping for a flash of jealousy during the reenactment of the Shin and Mao kiss scene.

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Here's the Shin and Mao scene from Macross Zero btw

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Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM
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Argh Warn for spoilers. I saw too much!! Better put all that in spoiler tags :P
Jun 6, 2008 1:45 AM
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Oh god, what was wrong with the animation during the battle with the Hydra? I mean... crap, it was just unwatchable....
Jun 6, 2008 3:52 AM
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WTH with the animation in the Hydra Battle... Are we back to the 70's?
Rest of the episode was great. Ranka is win :P and Aimo its also pure win. I've listened to that song like 100 times by now xD
Jun 6, 2008 4:20 AM
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Yeah, I agree, apart from that, the rest of episode was great.
Jun 6, 2008 8:30 AM
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I love Macross Zero, so this episode could do no wrong.
Jun 6, 2008 8:44 AM
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great episode especially for the ones that already saw macross Zero, if you haven't seen it before the episode would lose a lot.
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Jun 6, 2008 9:16 AM
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This is an tie in eps from Macross Zero so if you have not seen it you might not truly appreciate it... so go watch it!

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now I want to watch it again
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Jun 6, 2008 10:08 AM
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Awesome episode in my book. While #7 was the best action episode, #10 is the best romance episode so far. Multi-layered theme of love in Macross F easily slaughters corresponding romances in CG R2 :]


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Jun 6, 2008 12:20 PM

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Anybody know how accurate Chihiro's subs are?
Jun 6, 2008 12:27 PM

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Typically, they can be pretty awful. The trade off is that Chihiro puts out their subs very quickly. Meh.
Jun 6, 2008 12:43 PM

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Well, I watched this episode subbed by them and thought that it was ok ( 7/10 ) . Plus, we can't be too demanding now since gg and gattai dropped it. Although, maybe gattai will pick it up because of the circumstances.


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Jun 6, 2008 1:04 PM

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It's too bad about GG's problems, I was glad when they picked it up.
Jun 6, 2008 1:31 PM

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well it was a fine episode to me
yeh aimo is a splendid song indeed

some new mysteries aswell... (brera sterne...)
and i still want more information on Alto's past
nice development anyways


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Jun 6, 2008 4:41 PM

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I can't stop singing Aimo...I'm glad i got to hear longer version of the song.
Can't wait for OST!





Jun 6, 2008 5:02 PM

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caboose_ftw said:
I can't stop singing Aimo...I'm glad i got to hear longer version of the song.
Can't wait for OST!



You can get some of the soundtracks to Macross F including one that has Aimo on it... Nipponsei
Jun 6, 2008 9:42 PM

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Static said:
WTH with the animation in the Hydra Battle... Are we back to the 70's?
Rest of the episode was great. Ranka is win :P and Aimo its also pure win. I've listened to that song like 100 times by now xD


yeah the animation of that small battle was sucky.. but good think sheryl took the kiss from alto b4 ranka did...
Jun 6, 2008 10:14 PM

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Looking at the replies regarding the short fight scene, I think they would have preferred it if the producers replaced the dynamism of the scene with well-drawn still shots in a flashback?

You guys have weird definitions of QUALITY. At least to me.
Jun 7, 2008 12:33 AM
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gg's sub is out, for those who didn't know. The thing about them collapsing was a joke.
Jun 7, 2008 2:50 AM

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With the exception of the Hydra battle, this episode was great! Probably the best non-action episode yet.
<3 Ranka ^_^
Jun 7, 2008 3:35 AM
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An episode where the characters act out another seri...
Characters from one show act out the story of their own history which is another sho...
The episode was about another series in the same timeline but the characters are...

Damnit, too confused to write a summary.

Nice episode though with the obvious exception.
Jun 7, 2008 4:08 AM

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greaaat effin episode.

Sheryl still owns Ranka in my book. By a LOOOONG shot.
Jun 7, 2008 4:31 AM

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Great serie but I have a question: from what anime was 10th episode story copied? I remember seeing a while ago it but I just can't put my finger on it, title is something something with birdhuman or human bird...
Jun 7, 2008 5:11 AM

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axborn said:
Great serie but I have a question: from what anime was 10th episode story copied? I remember seeing a while ago it but I just can't put my finger on it, title is something something with birdhuman or human bird...


eeerm... macross zero ...


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Jun 7, 2008 5:31 AM

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Oh so that's how it was called, thanks. Totaly forgot that it was another anime from Macross
Jun 7, 2008 5:44 AM

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lol lucky that I just watched Macross Zero a few days ago.... Hmm I like that guy's weapon who protected Ranka... Brewne something...
Jun 7, 2008 8:51 AM

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a remaking of macross zero with frontier characters, it was very memorable episode if u haved watch macross zero



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Jun 8, 2008 8:56 AM

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That's some great Macross history reference there.
Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM
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One of the best episodes so far, it was really enjoyable with all the references to Zero, the love triangle (featuring Ranka this time, yay !) and the backstage of the movie which was really close to reality ;)

Apart from that, I didn't like Macross Zero (well, it's vastly inferior to the first Macross, Plus and even Frontier) and I must say this episode is far better than the original series, which is quite funny.

Oh and I found the battle with the hydra pretty interesting animation-wise, very fast and well-animated (even if the art was basic at most), quite artsy and definitely more original than a full-CG battle where you don't understand what is going on. It reminded me of Porco Rosso, which is a good thing.

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Jun 8, 2008 6:58 PM

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Yeah, very enjoyable after finishing Zero recently, even though I wasn't a huge fan of Zero, I thought it was powerful.

Ranka's getting even more awesome ... still like her way more than Sheryl!

I think this is becoming my favorite series this season.
Jun 8, 2008 10:33 PM

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I absolutely loved this episode. Admittedly, when I started this episode I thought I'd opened the wrong file, but sure enough it was Frontier. As a Zero lover, this episode especially won me over. The hydra scene kinda came outta nowhere, especially with the animation style. I'm not sure if I liked it or not... Anyway, I'm really excited to see Ranka getting somewhere now <3

I wish we coulda gotten to see Alto crossdressing thought, sigh.
Jun 9, 2008 9:57 AM

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Glad I got around to watching Macross Zero before this episode came up =P

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Ranka's getting even more awesome ... still like her way more than Sheryl!

Qft :3

And I majorly lol'd at Alto's Princess Sakura.
Jun 9, 2008 9:59 AM

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that Hydra fight scene was incredibly reminiscent of Viral from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, everything from Brera's character design, to the way he fought, to the animation (except the Hydra itself..that looked like it was out of Pokemon or something).

the problem is, that fight scene seemed sooooooooooooooo out of place, and not just with Brera showing up (i already expected him to be stepping in to save Ranka), but everything about it was kind of random and thrown together. i think this is the first time where i've preferred a CG battle scene with mechs in space over drawn hand to hand combat o_o hopefully the animators will step up in their game and do a worthy looking battle next time that actually fits with the rest of the animation >.>;

i do like Brera's weapon though <3 and the fangirl inside me likes his body lol (even if it's wholly/partially cyberkinetic :3) ^_^ can't wait to see more of his development
Jun 9, 2008 10:51 AM
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anyone else wondering why rankas brother finds it ironic that ranka plays the role of (dr.) mao?
Jun 9, 2008 11:30 AM

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Outside of the action-fest in 7 I think this has been my favorite episode of the series so far, I just really enjoyed the presentation of the episode.
Jun 9, 2008 11:38 AM

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the animation quality took a pitfall in the hydra battle.

Other than that, omedetou, Ranka-chan *teary eyes*

Sheryl, go die please, I beg you.
Jun 9, 2008 11:42 AM
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I've been a fan of Sheryl since this series started but in this episode, not so much. I know that she's been rather manipulative and finds amusement in toying with Alto but I thought that she took it too far this time around.
Jun 10, 2008 12:24 AM

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The animation of the battle was reminiscent of Noien and the Naru-Sasuke fight. Personally, not a huge fan, but there's those out there who'll say it's an artistic flare. Still, I don't think it wasn't that bad considering a large portion of the show's battles are done w/ CG.
I think this episode has sold me on Macross F. Before it was mildly interesting, but now that the protagonists are warming up to full swing, the story's becoming so much better. Ranka was adorable this episode, and the movie tie-in just fit. (I'll have to go and watch Zero now)
Jun 10, 2008 1:12 AM

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LAH-Foton said:
the animation quality took a pitfall in the hydra battle.

Other than that, omedetou, Ranka-chan *teary eyes*

Sheryl, go die please, I beg you.


I can't wait to see you moan and bitch at the series end.
Jun 10, 2008 2:35 AM

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You can get some of the soundtracks to Macross F including one that has Aimo on it... Nipponsei

yeah, i already have Macross Frontier OST vol. 1 which has 2 versions of Aimo.



Jun 10, 2008 2:46 AM

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Westlo said:
LAH-Foton said:
Sheryl, go die please, I beg you.


I can't wait to see you moan and bitch at the series end.


We'll never know, we'll just wait and see.
Jun 10, 2008 4:04 AM

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LAH-Foton said:
Westlo said:
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Sheryl, go die please, I beg you.


I can't wait to see you moan and bitch at the series end.


We'll never know, we'll just wait and see.


I'm pretty sure I know which direction the series is going in terms of the romantic aspect (overall plot.. who knows with Kawamori...) If they continue to make Ranka get jealous of Alto and Sheryl for the next 10 episodes I can see even die hard Ranka fans getting sick of her... they will change the dynamics between the 3 and it will happen soon.

Kawamori prefers strong women like Sheryl, everything he's done in the last 25 years shows that. It's also easier to write a good losers ending for Ranka than it is to write a good losers ending for Sheryl. Last 9 months I haven't missed a single prediction when it comes to anime/manga romance and I doubt Sheryl and Zero (Vampire Knight) are going to break that streak.
Jun 10, 2008 10:22 AM

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and thus I invoke the MST3K Mantra for you and myself:

"It's just an anime, I really should relax."
Jun 10, 2008 12:24 PM
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OW...Marvelous
Jun 11, 2008 5:23 AM

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LAH-Foton said:
and thus I invoke the MST3K Mantra for you and myself:

"It's just an anime, I really should relax."


I am relaxed? Aren't you?
Jun 11, 2008 9:38 AM

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I wasn't then, but I must <_<

Then again, wishing a character to die for a pairing was stupid, ぼくやってもうた。D:

"sides, when not being rivals for Alto, both Ranka and Sheryl has something like a Sempai Kohai thing, right?

I'll continue rooting for mine, you do yours, but I guess I should be more peaceful, bleh <_<
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Westlo said:
I'm pretty sure I know which direction the series is going in terms of the romantic aspect (overall plot.. who knows with Kawamori...) If they continue to make Ranka get jealous of Alto and Sheryl for the next 10 episodes I can see even die hard Ranka fans getting sick of her... they will change the dynamics between the 3 and it will happen soon.

Kawamori prefers strong women like Sheryl, everything he's done in the last 25 years shows that. It's also easier to write a good losers ending for Ranka than it is to write a good losers ending for Sheryl. Last 9 months I haven't missed a single prediction when it comes to anime/manga romance and I doubt Sheryl and Zero (Vampire Knight) are going to break that streak.


Very valid points, but I have the feeling something different may happen this time. While I don't see Ranka being a valid love interest (too much little sister syndrome really) I'm not sure we'll see Alto get with Sheryl either. It may be unresolved, or to be all fancy and modernised maybe it can be a yaoi pairing. A lot more shows are more open to that these days too. =p But seriously, I suspect neither will 'win' at the moment. But we have to wait and see I suppose.
Jun 11, 2008 2:38 PM

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It very well could end unresolved depending on if they have plans to make another tv series, ova or movie.
Jun 12, 2008 6:48 AM

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"Status quo is God" moments, eh
Jun 18, 2008 8:31 PM

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This is officially my favorite episode in the whole series!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blushing ohime-sama!! Fighting ohime-sama! Rankaxalto kiss scene DESPITE sheryl :D! RANKA IN A MOVIE FINALLY. Ranka's song! Brera rescue :D lalalla


YAAAAAAA :D:D:D:D Watched it twice.

I'll ignore the fight scene quality. Which looked a bit like it was made from flash scratch.
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