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Nov 3, 2010 1:56 AM
#101
| And here I was hoping they would have sex and just get over with her arc in one episode. Oh well... |
Nov 3, 2010 3:58 AM
#102
| Loved the bath tub scene though I wanted more H-stuff... |
Nov 3, 2010 4:07 AM
#103
Nov 3, 2010 4:12 AM
#104
Mony-Chan said: Agreed. He is as mundane as Junichi >.>Meh, somehow I wished Haruka was a better male lead. Sora's character is drifting a bit. She seems less annoyed & mean. Basically she is like anesthetized Sora now. Thought omnibus format would seem interesting but not liking it at all. Wanted a normal romance show with hard drama in a serene atmosphere but.......T__T Though the BGM is superb for sure. Liked Kazuha better. Skipped through the special at the end. It kills like 3 mins of the show and then there is the OP&ED. |
ValentilnNov 3, 2010 4:15 AM
Nov 3, 2010 4:14 AM
#105
check said: The whole scene where he was trying to find the pendant was so idiotic, digging at random places to find something that was lost years ago. I could not stop laughing, it was so lame. Ero scenes were nice tho, lawl. Also Sora is always nice to look at. My thoughts exactly. Is he just showing off for the girl or does he genuinely believe he can find it? Either way he looked like an idiot. |
Nov 3, 2010 4:37 AM
#106
twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P Linalee-Stratos said: No not at all he is a Makoto with a reset switch and time travel abilities combined.Mony-Chan said: Agreed. He is as mundane as Junichi >.>Meh, somehow I wished Haruka was a better male lead. |
Nov 3, 2010 4:44 AM
#107
Linalee-Stratos said: Mony-Chan said: Agreed. He is as mundane as Junichi >.>Meh, somehow I wished Haruka was a better male lead. Which Junichi? Nagase, Asakura or Tachibana? |
Nov 3, 2010 5:33 AM
#108
Lefake said: Linalee-Stratos said: Agreed. He is as mundane as Junichi >.> Which Junichi? Nagase, Asakura or Tachibana? It's Tachibana or so I think. Though they are both your so typical male lead, unlike Haru, Tachibana pussies out when it comes to getting laid. At least, Haru knows what he wants and goes for it, however in an idiotic fashion. With that, I dare say he is slightly better. |
Nov 3, 2010 6:05 AM
#109
Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P No.. I refereed it to Kanon not based on the the OP... but due to plot points in this episode... In Kanon, Yuichi forgot about their meeting in the past with Ayu (just like Haru forgot about Akira) In past Yuichi and Ayu plays around a tree.... and Ayu likes climbing trees (same thing here...) Ayu said she lost something in the past (just like Akira) In present tree was cut down (in yosuga it was due to land slide) Thats why I felt like it is a ripoff of Kanon.... :D |
Nov 3, 2010 6:33 AM
#110
Kuro4735 said: The Akira x Haru relationship came out of practically thin air, which says a lot about how fast the story is going. Its what happens when you take a great VN that has an indepth story and than try to force as many routes as possible while changing details into a pathetically small amount of episodes (12) |
Nov 3, 2010 6:42 AM
#111
twonline said: I agree with you and see your point. Thanks for sharing it and I am sure people will agree too. Seems like the rumors of running out of original ideas in anime are becoming more of a reality.Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P No.. I refereed it to Kanon not based on the the OP... but due to plot points in this episode... In Kanon, Yuichi forgot about their meeting in the past with Ayu (just like Haru forgot about Akira) In past Yuichi and Ayu plays around a tree.... and Ayu likes climbing trees (same thing here...) Ayu said she lost something in the past (just like Akira) In present tree was cut down (in yosuga it was due to land slide) Thats why I felt like it is a ripoff of Kanon.... :D |
Nov 3, 2010 7:31 AM
#112
Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: I agree with you and see your point. Thanks for sharing it and I am sure people will agree too. Seems like the rumors of running out of original ideas in anime are becoming more of a reality.Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P No.. I refereed it to Kanon not based on the the OP... but due to plot points in this episode... In Kanon, Yuichi forgot about their meeting in the past with Ayu (just like Haru forgot about Akira) In past Yuichi and Ayu plays around a tree.... and Ayu likes climbing trees (same thing here...) Ayu said she lost something in the past (just like Akira) In present tree was cut down (in yosuga it was due to land slide) Thats why I felt like it is a ripoff of Kanon.... :D yeah! most recent anime are out of original ideas... but there are some good ones like kaminomi and oreimo.... :) |
Nov 3, 2010 8:06 AM
#113
I heard about original ideas and then I saw oreimo...![]() |
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Nov 3, 2010 8:24 AM
#114
Nov 3, 2010 8:35 AM
#115
twonline said: Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: I agree with you and see your point. Thanks for sharing it and I am sure people will agree too. Seems like the rumors of running out of original ideas in anime are becoming more of a reality.Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P No.. I refereed it to Kanon not based on the the OP... but due to plot points in this episode... In Kanon, Yuichi forgot about their meeting in the past with Ayu (just like Haru forgot about Akira) In past Yuichi and Ayu plays around a tree.... and Ayu likes climbing trees (same thing here...) Ayu said she lost something in the past (just like Akira) In present tree was cut down (in yosuga it was due to land slide) Thats why I felt like it is a ripoff of Kanon.... :D yeah! most recent anime are out of original ideas... but there are some good ones like kaminomi and oreimo.... :) 1) What original ideas are you talking about? Please elaborate on it If you are complaining that the story is cliché, then what makes you think that this anime is so? It is your loaded term that you need to clarify. For this case, I would assume original ideas is the idea that is synthesized from old ideas. 1.1) Most, if not all best visual novel sellers have original ideas and a compelling story to tell, or else how can it be marketed to the Japanese public? Good HCG? Not the case for this one through. Assuming that the anime adapts the visual novel setting and is done exactly the way that the story is presented to us in the visual novel, then most likely you should find the story quite compelling and "original". 1.2) I guess the problem with this anime with the majority, is that it is too rushed, as a few forumers have pointed out. A VN story is generally deep and requires at least 24 episodes or more. True, details can be omitted, and they should (That what makes Clannad too draggy), but not till the extent that the general idea is lost. 2)You can't just compare scene by scene like what you did. You are just looking too much into detail without looking into the context of the story. The essence of Ayu Kanon story, which is about memories, is different from this essence of the Akira story, in which could be seen as family issues. As far as i am concerned, Kanon is Kanon. Its story is compelling, and I like the Nayuki's route. I will admit that i have not played yosuga no sora, but from the routes which i have searched online, none of the girls' routes blatantly lift parts of the story from kanon. 2.1) Heck, even if you want to assert that Yosuga no Sora follows Kanon in that way of yours, then what about Clannad? It copies the essence and idea from Family Project. 3) Twonline, what you should be lamenting is that there is not a lot of anime out there with a intelligent and compelling plot for us to follow. Your example, Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai and Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai at least have a context and agenda to address to us, the audience. It is unfair to the rest of the anime by saying that they have no original ideas. Heck, even a new way of doing pantyshot can be considered "original". K-on, a slice of life anime can also be "original" as well. What viewers, or at least those in my community, really want is a show with an intelligent plot and with minimum amount of lame stuff such as "fan-service". I believe this anime is guilty of that -.-' Just in case, as I am afraid that you have misconceptions that I am trying to defend this anime, but the reason why i wrote this post is that I feel compelled to correct your paradigms in the statement of yours. Lastly, a different case: Any of you feel that the BGM for this episode did not sync with the animation itself? It do not have the same touch as the one presented in episode 3. |
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Nov 3, 2010 9:12 AM
#116
nerdyguy said: twonline said: Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: I agree with you and see your point. Thanks for sharing it and I am sure people will agree too. Seems like the rumors of running out of original ideas in anime are becoming more of a reality.Yumekichi11 said: twonline said: WTF..... is this shit totally turned into a hentai.... and also i felt like its a lame ripoff from Kanon...... No not hentai yet but borderline like Aki-Sora yes. Rip-off of Kanon? More like Clannad since the OP is done by the same as the one from Clannad. twonline said: That's interesting can you elaborate more on this I am interested in this view.Akira = Ayu Story involves a tree.... which is no longer exist in present... :P No.. I refereed it to Kanon not based on the the OP... but due to plot points in this episode... In Kanon, Yuichi forgot about their meeting in the past with Ayu (just like Haru forgot about Akira) In past Yuichi and Ayu plays around a tree.... and Ayu likes climbing trees (same thing here...) Ayu said she lost something in the past (just like Akira) In present tree was cut down (in yosuga it was due to land slide) Thats why I felt like it is a ripoff of Kanon.... :D yeah! most recent anime are out of original ideas... but there are some good ones like kaminomi and oreimo.... :) 1) What original ideas are you talking about? Please elaborate on it If you are complaining that the story is cliché, then what makes you think that this anime is so? It is your loaded term that you need to clarify. For this case, I would assume original ideas is the idea that is synthesized from old ideas. 1.1) Most, if not all best visual novel sellers have original ideas and a compelling story to tell, or else how can it be marketed to the Japanese public? Good HCG? Not the case for this one through. Assuming that the anime adapts the visual novel setting and is done exactly the way that the story is presented to us in the visual novel, then most likely you should find the story quite compelling and "original". 1.2) I guess the problem with this anime with the majority, is that it is too rushed, as a few forumers have pointed out. A VN story is generally deep and requires at least 24 episodes or more. True, details can be omitted, and they should (That what makes Clannad too draggy), but not till the extent that the general idea is lost. 2)You can't just compare scene by scene like what you did. You are just looking too much into detail without looking into the context of the story. The essence of Ayu Kanon story, which is about memories, is different from this essence of the Akira story, in which could be seen as family issues. As far as i am concerned, Kanon is Kanon. Its story is compelling, and I like the Nayuki's route. I will admit that i have not played yosuga no sora, but from the routes which i have searched online, none of the girls' routes blatantly lift parts of the story from kanon. 2.1) Heck, even if you want to assert that Yosuga no Sora follows Kanon in that way of yours, then what about Clannad? It copies the essence and idea from Family Project. 3) Twonline, what you should be lamenting is that there is not a lot of anime out there with a intelligent and compelling plot for us to follow. Your example, Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai and Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai at least have a context and agenda to address to us, the audience. It is unfair to the rest of the anime by saying that they have no original ideas. Heck, even a new way of doing pantyshot can be considered "original". K-on, a slice of life anime can also be "original" as well. What viewers, or at least those in my community, really want is a show with an intelligent plot and with minimum amount of lame stuff such as "fan-service". I believe this anime is guilty of that -.-' Just in case, as I am afraid that you have misconceptions that I am trying to defend this anime, but the reason why i wrote this post is that I feel compelled to correct your paradigms in the statement of yours. Lastly, a different case: Any of you feel that the BGM for this episode did not sync with the animation itself? It do not have the same touch as the one presented in episode 3. Sorry!!! I didn't mean to bash on any Anime.... I just felt like the scenes in this episode resembles some another anime's scenes.... The concept of Original idea might be differentiate from a person to person.... For me if you are can't guess what will happen next... on an Anime or when it surprises you with something I call it an original anime... :D btw I haven't heard about Family Project... so I can't comment on it... :P |
Nov 3, 2010 9:37 AM
#117
Nov 3, 2010 12:03 PM
#118
Nov 3, 2010 12:22 PM
#119
Nov 3, 2010 12:32 PM
#120
| Glad the spotlight's on Akira now. I always prefer her over Kazuha. |
Nov 3, 2010 12:36 PM
#121
| People seem to be assuming just because Haruka has sex with the girls that he is Makoto. Not really since the story resets, if it were to continue he might stay with one girl or they would actually break-up before he has sex with multiple girls. |
Nov 3, 2010 1:40 PM
#122
| Kanon Tree> Yosuga Tree |
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Nov 3, 2010 3:34 PM
#123
Kico7 said: I don't think oreimo has drama in it,.... Because you haven't watched the latest ep or you just have a notion regarding 'dorama' different than the norm? prismheart said: People seem to be assuming just because Haruka has sex with the girls that he is Makoto. Well... They're the same folks who think that it's outrageous for Haru to kiss rich girl and condemn him as a 'manwhore' just because he kissed the girl he likes and their feelings are mutual. I assume it's just another of their attempt to be unfunny by overdramatizing things. I mean, young couples nowadays even have sex with each other on their first date as long as they like each other so why all the fuss? That, or they're all f**ked up in the head by School Days and if so, they have my condolences. HawthorneKitty said: Kanon Tree> Yosuga Tree MAI TREE > YOUR TREE |
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Nov 3, 2010 3:47 PM
#124
prismheart said: That's why I said he is a Makoto with time travel/reset switch abilities. Take that away and he is just another plain Makoto.People seem to be assuming just because Haruka has sex with the girls that he is Makoto. Not really since the story resets, if it were to continue he might stay with one girl or they would actually break-up before he has sex with multiple girls. |
Yumekichi11Nov 3, 2010 4:02 PM
Nov 3, 2010 6:36 PM
#125
| Haru works pretty quickly although with only 2 episodes for a arc the development would have to be fast. |
Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM
#126
BitchMaster said: Well no not really in my case. Let's see he manwhores a rich girl, next he does the same with a Miko, then the next will be the childhood friend and the best will be saved as his blood sister. prismheart said: People seem to be assuming just because Haruka has sex with the girls that he is Makoto. Well... They're the same folks who think that it's outrageous for Haru to kiss rich girl and condemn him as a 'manwhore' just because he kissed the girl he likes and their feelings are mutual. Now think of Makoto but with time travel or reset switch. Now get my point of not having that, then you have a Makoto who is not different than Haru is. Seriously the only good thing about Makoto is that he never got to do it at a young age and that's too bad for him. That's how I think. |
Nov 3, 2010 8:21 PM
#127
yun90 said: Another lame episode. They could seriously do it without all of the ecchi scenes. This. I'll watch the next episode, but I think I'm gonna drop this thing. |
Nov 3, 2010 8:50 PM
#128
Yumekichi11 said: Well no not really in my case. Let's see he manwhores a rich girl, next he does the same with a Miko, then the next will be the childhood friend and the best will be saved as his blood sister. Now think of Makoto but with time travel or reset switch. Now get my point of not having that, then you have a Makoto who is not different than Haru is. Seriously the only good thing about Makoto is that he never got to do it at a young age and that's too bad for him. That's how I think. But the thing is that they're alternative universes, unlike Makoto who manwhores in a single & linear universe. See the difference? Of course it's a weasel way for producers to avoid making Haru look like a manwhore and like it or hate it, that works by def because A Haru in A universe only likes ONE specific A girl and B Haru in B universe only likes ONE specific B girl. That doesn't count as infidelity now, is it? If Makoto pimped girls in separate arcs and sticked with only ONE in each arc, he also wouldn't be considered as 'manwhore' by def. Unless we see Haru pimping 2 girls in one arc; otherwise, he's still innocent and the rotten 'Makoto' is the show's staff for opting this lame omnibus format. |
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Nov 3, 2010 9:02 PM
#129
BitchMaster said: That's the thing. Does not that make you angry? Frustrated?Yumekichi11 said: Well no not really in my case. Let's see he manwhores a rich girl, next he does the same with a Miko, then the next will be the childhood friend and the best will be saved as his blood sister. Now think of Makoto but with time travel or reset switch. Now get my point of not having that, then you have a Makoto who is not different than Haru is. Seriously the only good thing about Makoto is that he never got to do it at a young age and that's too bad for him. That's how I think. But the thing is that they're alternative universes, unlike Makoto who manwhores in a single & linear universe. See the difference? BitchMaster said: Of course it's a weasel way for producers to avoid making Haru look like a manwhore and like it or hate it, that works by def because A Haru in A universe only likes ONE specific A girl and B Haru in B universe only likes ONE specific B girl. That doesn't count as infidelity now, is it? If Makoto pimped girls in separate arcs and sticked with only ONE in each arc, he also wouldn't be considered as 'manwhore' by def. Sadly the reality of the weasel way of those pimping producers. They punked us like that exactly. BitchMaster said: Yeah here's to Nao and Sora somehow. Doubt it though. For me Haruka will still be the time traveler Neo-Makoto think of it that way pretty much. I also blame Nao for making him into whore man. That you can't deny because it all happens in the past where the resets don't go that far. So he is still a man whore! Because he screwed a young childhood friend. If they did it and it is proven in Nao's arc.Unless we see Haru pimping 2 girls in one arc; otherwise, he's still innocent and the rotten 'Makoto' is the show's staff for opting this lame omnibus format. We shall have a feast indeed to that! Is all I am saying. |
Nov 4, 2010 1:06 AM
#130
Maugomale said: Fifteen bloody minutes in and it's already turned into something sexual. I blame the director (Aki-Sora be damned). ![]() Take a guess about what will be happening behind these doors... I don't know what you're expecting from this show. Really, everyone who's thinking, "Man, I like this, but there's too much ecchi/nudity/whatever!" should just drop this and be done with it ^^ check said: The whole scene where he was trying to find the pendant was so idiotic, digging at random places to find something that was lost years ago. I could not stop laughing, it was so lame. Yeah, that was a pretty contrived setup for the bathtub scene. |
Nov 4, 2010 2:11 AM
#131
Nov 4, 2010 7:36 AM
#132
Yumekichi11 said: What's this Makoto business....????BitchMaster said: Well no not really in my case. Let's see he manwhores a rich girl, next he does the same with a Miko, then the next will be the childhood friend and the best will be saved as his blood sister. prismheart said: People seem to be assuming just because Haruka has sex with the girls that he is Makoto. Well... They're the same folks who think that it's outrageous for Haru to kiss rich girl and condemn him as a 'manwhore' just because he kissed the girl he likes and their feelings are mutual. Now think of Makoto but with time travel or reset switch. Now get my point of not having that, then you have a Makoto who is not different than Haru is. Seriously the only good thing about Makoto is that he never got to do it at a young age and that's too bad for him. That's how I think. |
Nov 4, 2010 9:16 AM
#133
Yumekichi11 said: BitchMaster said: That's the thing. Does not that make you angry? Frustrated?But the thing is that they're alternative universes, unlike Makoto who manwhores in a single & linear universe. See the difference? Whhhhyyyy? why would you be angry and frustrated? He isn't double booking anyone, that's the purpose of arcs. *sigh* so I take it, you haven't played any Visual Novel? Yumekichi11 said: Yeah here's to Nao and Sora somehow. Doubt it though. For me Haruka will still be the time traveler Neo-Makoto think of it that way pretty much. I also blame Nao for making him into whore man. That you can't deny because it all happens in the past where the resets don't go that far. So he is still a man whore! Because he screwed a young childhood friend. If they did it and it is proven in Nao's arc. lol@time traveler. smh 1. Manwhore what? Did we watch the same version of School Days? Makoto fucked girls to satisfy his sexual desires. Sure the idiot girls in SD are the first one that came to him but he even go as far as calling girls to have sex with him "disregarding" their feelings. Did Haru did any of that? no sir, Haru actually helps the girls problems in every arc and he only have sex with them with the thing you call "love" where as a non-existent in Makoto's vocabulary. 2. He isn't a manwhore man, that's the purpose of having arcs and please spare me the time machine or reset switch. 3. How can be so sure that he wanted to screw his childhood friend? have you played the visual novel? what "if" Nao took advantage of him and "maybe" Haruka didn't know what Nao is doing to him back then? does that still count as manwhoring? |
Nov 4, 2010 12:58 PM
#134
| So, it really was a reset this time |
Nov 4, 2010 9:10 PM
#135
Nov 4, 2010 10:34 PM
#136
Nov 4, 2010 11:23 PM
#137
| Must... persevere.... tWINcest is coming.... soon. /dies from shitty melodrama |
Nov 5, 2010 2:30 PM
#138
| Uh... OK. Well, I like this better than Amagami, because the characters here actually have a story, although admittedly, everything is rushed. Some of the NSFW stuff are way too graphic. |
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Nov 6, 2010 9:21 AM
#139
Nov 6, 2010 2:40 PM
#140
Nov 6, 2010 5:53 PM
#141
| Well that was pretty fast. I guess this arc will be over next ep? |
Nov 6, 2010 8:14 PM
#142
| what a crap, there is no sense at all, no real story line. If it has to be a hentai, just do a fking hentai! |
Nov 7, 2010 3:55 AM
#143
| First episode was fkn awesome...how did it end up like this?? I only keep watching this for the TWINCEST arc. |
Nov 7, 2010 7:43 AM
#144
Duma said: what a crap, there is no sense at all, no real story line. If it has to be a hentai, just do a fking hentai! Yes. And that girl is shameless too. The first two episodes were quite interesting. But now ... |
Nov 7, 2010 5:16 PM
#145
Rhypo-oniichan said: First episode was fkn awesome...how did it end up like this?? I only keep watching this for the TWINCEST arc. Yeah but that will probably be last...I hope this ends up being only 13 episodes. |
Nov 8, 2010 3:39 AM
#146
Nov 11, 2010 8:42 PM
#148
| Aah, aah. And just when I thought I might be seeing some redemption to the show. They blew it, again. If I wanted to watch soft hentai, I would. I'll just bare through the rest because I've already started. (-.-) FrEeDoM, give me strength! Not looking forward to the most likely radical, dull, boring episode! :( |
Nov 18, 2010 1:48 AM
#149
| What is this I don't even Kind of bold imo. Sure, if it's done in the end of an arc or something to show how close they've gotten or something, but going this far right off the bat? Well, at least there's Sora. |
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Nov 18, 2010 8:00 PM
#150
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