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| Quite decent last episode. Overall I got annoyed more than I enjoyed the show because of the characters. Hikaru acting like an ass becuase of Minmay, why even he is the leader? He was also dumb to not noticed Misa's feeling after all that happened to two of them. Lmao Minmay didn't grow on me as a heroine. She friendzoned Hikaru and for some unknown reason she was very affectionate to Kaifun. I thought it is only becuase they are cousin. It's really convinient to have Kaifun as a character. The ultimate plot device, cousin of Minmay turned leading man in a movie then he suddenly love Minmay as a lover? He is also look a like with Misa's former love interest. Lmao Two years later he is now the manager of Minmay and his attitude got worse. Im not even sure if him and Minmay was really a lover. Minmay didn't respond to Hikaru because of Kaifun. Yeah she maybe starting to realize that she likes Hikaru but still she chose Kaifun. (She said "Komeni Hikaru, demo watashi Kaifun no koto...") Kaifun was garabage the writers didnt even try to explore his character, he is also a pacifist becuase why not? The story need a obligatory pacifist character. Him and Minmay were shallow, well at least Minmay got a development near the end. The romance concluscion was also not very clear. Im not convinced Hikaru ended up with Misa but Im okay with it. Minmay decided to sing again but does she really love singing? Or she was only singing because the people told her to. Far from masterpiece but I can understand why this considered as classic. This anime revolutionize the space/music genre. Unfortunately I didn't enjoy watching this as I much wanted to. If this focused more on real plot rather than the roamance part this would be more better. Imo and removing Kaifun completely from the story Also the animation was laughable at times. |
blessofcurse said: This would be better if Kaifun was completely removed from the story Also the animation was laughable at times. You've got your wish granted ! Macross - Do you remember Love? (Kaifun playing only a barely talking figurant role as the manager) If this focused more on real plot than on the romance part, this would be better. Ouch, don't ask for too much. It's a large audience typical mix, a love intrigue with a war background, not the reversed recipe. Anyway, I invite you to watch the blockbusterish theatrical version (it's entirely remade), if you can stomach the love triangle being even more the focus. PS: "better" is already the comparative form of "good", no need for "more". ^^ |
Rei_III said: blessofcurse said: This would be better if Kaifun was completely removed from the story Also the animation was laughable at times. You've got your wish granted ! Macross - Do you remember Love? (Kaifun playing only a barely talking figurant role as the manager) If this focused more on real plot than on the romance part, this would be better. Ouch, don't ask for too much. It's a large audience typical mix, a love intrigue with a war background, not the reversed recipe. Anyway, I invite you to watch the blockbusterish theatrical version (it's entirely remade), if you can stomach the love triangle being even more the focus. PS: "better" is already the comparative form of "good", no need for "more". ^^ Yes . I will definitely watch the movie version and I have a feeling I will like it. I am really commited to watch the whole Macross franchise. Thanks for pointing out my grammar, Im still learning english. :) |
| Good finale, especially after the last part which I found frustrating mess most of the time. I didn't like how Hikaru left Minmay "You have your songs" Overall it was a really good show, especially the first part which was a blast watching. Second part had it's moments but was mostly frustrating. Art and animation surprised me a lot of the times with some great art and amazing animation sequences. Developed sci-fi and mystery is what I didn't expect going in. It was probably my favorite part of the show (mysteries behind Zentradi, humans, Protoculture, them learning Culture etc.) Culture jokes were also really funny and might be one of my favorite running gags in anime so I've seen so far. First part was solid 9/10, after that the show became weaker so when all is taken into account it's 8/10 from me. |
| At least the proper girl was chosen... Older anime like this often seem to be very stiff with plot and characters and some stuff was pretty nonsensical but still liked it overall on rewatch if not as much as the first time around. Show seemed to be a series of action scenes strung together by thin plot and romance in the love triangle but I have to say when the show was enjoyable it was very much enjoyable. If those two Zentradi had embraced experiencing... culture... together they would have been happier instead of their silly suicide run. Pity. |
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| Awesome and touching ending, I think. I really expected somebody to die (excluding Lap'Lamiz and Kamujin), but that was not the case. In the end, the girl I was rooting for finally found her happiness, huh? I'm not really sure whether the ending is happy or bittersweet when it comes to Hikaru and Minmay. What Hikaru and Misa told her about her songs sounded like that lecture Kaifun gave her before leaving. Some things are left open for interpretation (or sequels), mainly in regards to the lives of the cast after the war, but that's fine. While it seems that this post-timeskip arc shouldn't have existed in the first place but came into being because of the ramifications of anime industry and producing, it turned out to be mostly enjoyable, despite having some underwhelming moments. It's quite often that episodes "sticked" to the show afterwards turn out to be bad, but I guess Macross avoided such a problem. It would still be perfectly fine with 27 episodes and maybe 1-2 more for an epilogue; but the way it ended up is pretty satisfying too, and I'm not complaining. Overall, Macross had a lot more positive than negative sides. Memorable and fairly distinct cast that kept me interested (even side characters were funny, including those on the bridge; unusual for such stories, but I liked e.g. Claudia or the other trio hanging out here and there), great sountrack (not only Minmay's songs, but the "sad" tracks as well), live-action ED (my weakness) and fairly original idea to exploit. I don't get why some people badmouth Macross as a "copy" of Gundam, it didn't feel like that at all. As for some negatives - sloppy animation and drawings at times (especially faces), and a couple of plot points that were underexploited or dropped (the disappearance of Macross fold system and Supervision Army, which I don't mind - it just served as a part of Zentradi history). That's pretty minor though and I don't mind it that much. Plus there were some moments which could've been expanded upon (Hikaru's return from Zentradi should've been shown to impact Minmay; or that scene of Hikaru and Misa drinking tea at night that we never got) 8-9/10, I think. More than enough to encourage me to watch other Macross series/movies/OVAs (though I was planning to watch them anyway). P.S. A moment of silence for Kamujin and Lap'Lamiz who never got time to make culture, in the end. The true tragedy of the show. P.P.S. Guess I'll never understand Minmay hate, but still, I liked her evolution (and I'll probably like her more after watching the movie and OVA), and the fact that her career as an idol is not all roses and comes with some problems and choices as well. I don't think that treating idol characters in a "deep" way is popular in anime at all, so I enjoyed the relative uniqueness of Minmay's situation. Maybe I just love unconventional idol stuff, I don't know; but I remembered Perfect Blue several times throughout the show for some reason (which is also about an idol and her not-so-rosy life, to say the least). Probably because it shows the "other side" of being an idol; Macross does this too, in a sense - there's a good balance between Minmay's career and her development as a character; plus she doesn't even start as an idol. |
St0rmbladeJul 15, 2020 12:38 PM
| This was beautiful. This series made me feel so many things. I have so many to say but I can't find the words. This show reminded me of Honey & Clover and Millennium Actress, I know that this predates them but I happened to see those long before this. Episode 28 made me rage so hard that I wanted to drop it or leave it on-hold eternally, after I think 18 months I retook it, I started raging again immediately at episode 29 but put on my big man pants and sat down on it. Now I'm delighted and glad I completed it even if Pain was injected through my veins each moment until the farewell. So long everyone. Eternity for the Macross ship crew. Eternity for Ichijou. Eternity for Misa. And Eternity for Lynn Minmay. |
| 7/10. IMO the ending of episode 27 is WAY better and this episode leaves quite a cliffhanger which is disappointing. |
| Awesome ending! I'm glad how Hikaru and Hayase were able to finally get together, and as for Minmay, I'm happy that she's found happiness through her songs. Not sure if I like this ending more if than if they had just ended the show at episode 27, but I most definitely did enjoy experiencing it. |
| It was a beautiful show, and I liked how ambiguous the love drama was - I wasn’t sure who I wanted to root for. Minmay would have been the romantic choice, love at first sight etc. But Hayase was the realistic choice. I really suffer with Hikaru though who just didn’t want to disappoint either of them. LOVE and ACTION! It was epic. |
| Kind of split on this show, it has aged poorly but at the same time has truly great moments in my view. I wonder if it tries to do everything and appeal to everyone while not being sure what to focus on at the same time? I feel like Eureka Seven if these two are even comparable did a better job at that but it aired way after this. Overall I did enjoy watching it! oooo3333 said: The third arc (episodes 28-36), truly a pointless arc. It was just done to milk the anime. Truly a pointless arc? Sure the epilogue could have been cut shorter and it was pretty rough at parts but at the same time I think it would have been plain weird to end the show on the devastating final battle with the Zentradian army. I thought it was really cool to see how the Macrossians adjusted to life after that and I really enjoyed the discussions relating to how war seemingly never ends and the issues that rose from humans living with zentradians. |
| He left her. Thank God. This is all I wanted. Karusan said: It was a beautiful show, and I liked how ambiguous the love drama was - I wasn’t sure who I wanted to root for. Minmay would have been the romantic choice, love at first sight etc. But Hayase was the realistic choice. I really suffer with Hikaru though who just didn’t want to disappoint either of them. LOVE and ACTION! It was epic. The best part was the comedy imo. The romance was annoying and the action was always extremely confusing. But that jokes were top tier! |
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| Man, what a strange show! I wasn't sure if I was going to like this show, but somehow everything clicked. Sure it's silly, but there is this charm to it. I liked the plot and the lighthearted nature of the show felt refreshing and fun. All in all, I fell in love with this show. Would be an 8/10 for me, but ep27 brings it up to a 9/10. The final arc had some rough spots, but overall it was okay. Not near the fun and quality of before, but not horrible (though sometimes painful to watch). It doesn't change my score. |
Baskarite said: I'd probably kill myself if fucking kyun kyun came on over the speaker while I was trying to fight. |
| As I forgot the conclusion of the series and have chance to watch it for free on a video channel, I rewatched it all over again. As the ending was not spectacular but unfocused and melodramatic, I will forget about it again. The series should be compressed into 24 episodes at the most, when a remake is made. |
| Yeah I was super hopeless going into this last episode but to my utmost surprise it was a great ending. Hikaru made the correct choice, but still, the soap opera bullshit that transpired in the episodes 28-35 will never go unnoticed. There is zero reason why the writers went with such a painfully mediocre and frustrating storyline. In its entirety, Macross is a good series. Mainly carried by characters like Misa, Claudia, Roy, and in very select times Hikaru, but his rep took a critical hit during the episodes I mentioned. Minmay and Kaifun are easily the black sheep of the cast, to the point that I did not even mind Kamujin over them. But... yeah, this last episode really came in clutch. With the first 27 eps being good, and 28-35 being some of the most abhorrent and torturous set of animation I have seen, I would say a 7 score is fair. |
| Hikaru, Minmay and Kaifun, I'd punch all three if I had the chance. Misa and Claudia were my favorite characters, individually and as a duo, their friendship is really cool. The Zentradi trio of spies were also really cool and funny, loved them |
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