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Tennouji_ said:
Probably the recent Key works, particularly Clannad and LB, are trying to aim a happy end if possible which they're trying to make or find a possibility on how to pull it. Yes the big drama is still there but I believe they wanted to rest assured the viewers. Most fans wanted a happy end.

Though Rewrite is a kind of exception.

A happy/perfect end works much better for a nakige than any other. Basically, the aim is to get the greatest amount of emotion out of the player. The best way to do that after getting the player attached to the characters is to alternate between extreme sadness and extreme happiness.
So although going for a bittersweet ending would be much more realistic, it could only provide about half the amount of emotion that a perfect ending would yield. If you ask me, that's a pretty good tradeoff. As long as it doesn't get ridiculous, I will favor the emotional impact over realism.

Agreed.

I also prefer that even they leave a Tragic End or a tragic moment, they still leave a happy note like Rewrite or if you want to end After Story at episode 18. Leaving a too much depressing ending isn't a good idea. For instance, the idea that they should end the LB story after the part where Riki and Rin didn't save everyone in the bus explosion. Seriously, that was so much depressing to just end it that way(I guess most people are masochist at heart) and I don't think it's just only a bittersweet end. They should know Kyousuke's plan(To make Riki and Rin become stronger) and his plan still isn't in vain because they manage to do what Kyousuke and the others did(Creating a dream world) and so on.

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"Key magic" exists for the exact purpose of letting the characters go through immense drama and suffering, yet still giving them a happy/perfect ending despite everything that's happened. Without magic, it would be impossible to go to such extremes in BOTH sadness and happiness.

Jul 9, 2013 8:28 PM

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If Key shows didn´t have happy endings, they wouldn´t be the same. That´s what I love about Key.

Jul 10, 2013 5:16 AM

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When the girls thank Riki for his help, I'm pretty sure that for him, he only thinks that they mean recruiting them to Little Busters, and giving them a group of friends. For me, Riki's expression kinda looks baffled/confused to me, so yeah.

Also, because of the non-linearity of the deam world, you could say that everything already has happened, but haven't happened yet. Like a time soup (?) yeah. Something like that, haha.

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Jul 10, 2013 5:52 AM

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cxu said:

Also, because of the non-linearity of the deam world, you could say that everything already has happened, but haven't happened yet. Like a time soup (?) yeah. Something like that, haha.

Still confusing even if you put it that way.

Jul 18, 2013 6:33 PM

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Sentai Filmworks will be releasing the BDs!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-18/sentai-filmworks-confirms-little-busters-bd-release

For original series though.

Jul 23, 2013 3:37 PM

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Stark700 said:
Sentai Filmworks will be releasing the BDs!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-18/sentai-filmworks-confirms-little-busters-bd-release

For original series though.

Nice, suppose there will also be a dub then. Though I already have the Japanese BDs.

Jul 24, 2013 6:45 AM

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Khalan3 said:

Stark700 said:
Sentai Filmworks will be releasing the BDs!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-18/sentai-filmworks-confirms-little-busters-bd-release

For original series though.

Nice, suppose there will also be a dub then. Though I already have the Japanese BDs.[/quote

Oh god, harem dubs. I can't wait ;D

Jul 24, 2013 11:18 AM

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Vladz0r said:

Khalan3 said:

Stark700 said:
Sentai Filmworks will be releasing the BDs!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-18/sentai-filmworks-confirms-little-busters-bd-release

For original series though.

Nice, suppose there will also be a dub then. Though I already have the Japanese BDs.[/quote

Oh god, harem dubs. I can't wait ;D

any ideas on who may be cast for the dub?

この世界には。。。秘密がある

Jul 28, 2013 2:59 AM

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long time no see guys. enjoy this pic of a scene that didn't see the light of day.

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Jul 28, 2013 9:55 AM

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^Already saw that on the main LB anime site and I was planning to bring the up but I changed my mind because I might rant like bullshit about that since they didn't include that scene in the anime.

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Jul 28, 2013 5:36 PM

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Michiru Shimada posted on twitter today saying that "Little Busters is in the works now!". The twitter description also says "Little Busters Refrain broadcasting in preparation". So im guessing they've already finished production then?

Link to post: https://twitter.com/soramona2000/status/361435509425307648
Page: https://twitter.com/soramona2000

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Jul 28, 2013 9:15 PM

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whats this?

http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4506399.html

a date for refrain? o.o

Jul 28, 2013 9:39 PM

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OCTOBER !!!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!!!!!!!!!!!

OP composed by Maeda Jun and ED by Orito Shinji.

XDDDD

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Jul 28, 2013 10:50 PM

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i guess i was right then, regarding my other post above

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Jul 28, 2013 11:06 PM

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If the OP will be composed by Maeda Jun, they will use a OST composed by him o.o And the same for Shinji Orito <3 Or really is a new, new song...

So much happiness for me today, really.

Jul 29, 2013 12:53 AM

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Jul 29, 2013 4:17 AM

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Pumped for Refrain! asjbdflaksjbd

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MUH DICK!!!

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Jul 29, 2013 7:21 AM

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Pumped for Refrain! asjbdflaksjbd

This is so well done it looks official!
CAN'T WAIIITTTT

Jul 29, 2013 10:43 AM

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>Jun Maeda
>Kurugaya Route
>Rin Route
>Refrain Route

fuck yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, my body is soooooooooooooooo ready <3

Jul 29, 2013 11:17 AM

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According to the description of the fanmade trailer, Lia IS singing the OP for Refrain.
Was that confirmed?

Jul 30, 2013 9:13 PM

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That picture makes me want to cry. That trailer makes me want to cry. Riki and Rin make me want to cry. Haha. The sound direction better be good for Refrain.

I was hoping for a new arrangement of "Song for Friends," but whatever. I'm definitely not against new music from two quality composers.

Aug 17, 2013 4:04 PM

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Here is how I envisioned the last 3 episodes of Refrain. It has been a long time since I finished LB, so some parts might be a bit off. Here I go:

Episode 11: Emotional part when Kyousuke reveals the truth of the world and everyone saying their parting words. The extra members of LB (Komari and co.) should also be included in this scene, with them also knowing the truth and giving thanks to Riki and Rin for helping them to resolve their regrets before moving on. Also, Rin should be active in this scene (saying something like wanting them to stay together forever), not like an emotionless brick in the original scene. Then they return to original world -> Sad end happens where only Riki and Rin survived

Episode 12: We start with Riki and Rin living their life together after Sad end. Even though they were able to become mature and move on with life just like Kyousuke had wished, they were never truly happy. Time passed until they grow old, and an elderly Rin met Komari (her ghost, spirit or whatever). Rin then made a wish with Komari’s star there, wishing things will go back in time, but this time, she will be strong enough to support Riki. Then TIME TRAVEL!!!
In the new timeline, Riki and Rin woke up, and decided to rescue everyone. This part is probably the most important part in the anime, and very difficult to pull it off. They should add good animation, tension, suspense, dramatic music, EVERYTHING to make this scene EPIC, to show that Riki and Rin working very hard to save every single one on the bus (again, show the extra LB members being rescued as well). A good idea here is that during the rescue, Riki’s narcolepsy kicks in multiple times, and he nearly fell over. But this time, through sheer determination and Rin’s support, Riki pulled it through. When Riki was getting Kyousuke out, the bus caught on fire. His narcolepsy kicked in for the last time, Riki had no choice but to throw Kyousuke out of the window, and collapsed. Rin found out and managed to pull Riki out on time, right before the bus exploded. Riki’s consciousness faded to black.
(Note: Well, I definitely tried to make Rin more useful here, since she deserved more action. Also, I wanted the “wish of the star” to not magically cure Riki of his narcolepsy, but only to help him to stay conscious enough to save everyone -> avoid deus ex machina)

Episode 13: Just go with the happy ending. They could stretch it out by adding some original scenes involving LB having fun together, and LB members finding their resolve (Komari made peace with the fact that her brother died, Mio became more cheerful and outgoing, Haruka got along with her sister, Kud coped with her mother’s death, Yuiko found her joy in life, Kengo attended Yoshiki’s grave). They can go with both normal and Rin’s ending here, first showing Rin evaluating whom to be Riki’s girlfriend. Then later they met in the classroom alone -> she couldn’t bear the thought of seeing Riki going out with anyone else -> decided that she should be his girlfriend instead -> KISSING :)
Then LB went on a trip to the beach and LITTLE JUMPER!!!

Ok, if JCStaff can pull it off at least 70% like this, I would revere them as GOD, by watching every anime they make for the rest of my life. But I doubt it would happen.

Aug 17, 2013 4:11 PM

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isaac_1207 said:
Here is how I envisioned the last 3 episodes of Refrain. It has been a long time since I finished LB, so some parts might be a bit off. Here I go:

Episode 11: Emotional part when Kyousuke reveals the truth of the world and everyone saying their parting words. The extra members of LB (Komari and co.) should also be included in this scene, with them also knowing the truth and giving thanks to Riki and Rin for helping them to resolve their regrets before moving on. Also, Rin should be active in this scene (saying something like wanting them to stay together forever), not like an emotionless brick in the original scene. Then they return to original world -> Sad end happens where only Riki and Rin survived

Episode 12: We start with Riki and Rin living their life together after Sad end. Even though they were able to become mature and move on with life just like Kyousuke had wished, they were never truly happy. Time passed until they grow old, and an elderly Rin met Komari (her ghost, spirit or whatever). Rin then made a wish with Komari’s star there, wishing things will go back in time, but this time, she will be strong enough to support Riki. Then TIME TRAVEL!!!
In the new timeline, Riki and Rin woke up, and decided to rescue everyone. This part is probably the most important part in the anime, and very difficult to pull it off. They should add good animation, tension, suspense, dramatic music, EVERYTHING to make this scene EPIC, to show that Riki and Rin working very hard to save every single one on the bus (again, show the extra LB members being rescued as well). A good idea here is that during the rescue, Riki’s narcolepsy kicks in multiple times, and he nearly fell over. But this time, through sheer determination and Rin’s support, Riki pulled it through. When Riki was getting Kyousuke out, the bus caught on fire. His narcolepsy kicked in for the last time, Riki had no choice but to throw Kyousuke out of the window, and collapsed. Rin found out and managed to pull Riki out on time, right before the bus exploded. Riki’s consciousness faded to black.
(Note: Well, I definitely tried to make Rin more useful here, since she deserved more action. Also, I wanted the “wish of the star” to not magically cure Riki of his narcolepsy, but only to help him to stay conscious enough to save everyone -> avoid deus ex machina)

Episode 13: Just go with the happy ending. They could stretch it out by adding some original scenes involving LB having fun together, and LB members finding their resolve (Komari made peace with the fact that her brother died, Mio became more cheerful and outgoing, Haruka got along with her sister, Kud coped with her mother’s death, Yuiko found her joy in life, Kengo attended Yoshiki’s grave). They can go with both normal and Rin’s ending here, first showing Rin evaluating whom to be Riki’s girlfriend. Then later they met in the classroom alone -> she couldn’t bear the thought of seeing Riki going out with anyone else -> decided that she should be his girlfriend instead -> KISSING :)
Then LB went on a trip to the beach and LITTLE JUMPER!!!

Ok, if JCStaff can pull it off at least 70% like this, I would revere them as GOD, by watching every anime they make for the rest of my life. But I doubt it would happen.

Ahaha, 13 episode Refrain. You're funny. Maybe for the Refrain arc alone, but the entire season will be longer than 1 cour.

Anyway, my thoughts on that:

Not sure how some things will work out, material-wise, since they said there would be no script changes. The ending is what I'm the most fearful for.

Vladz0rAug 17, 2013 4:19 PM

Aug 17, 2013 4:39 PM

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isaac_1207 said:
Here is how I envisioned the last 3 episodes of Refrain. It has been a long time since I finished LB, so some parts might be a bit off. Here I go:

Episode 11: Emotional part when Kyousuke reveals the truth of the world and everyone saying their parting words. The extra members of LB (Komari and co.) should also be included in this scene, with them also knowing the truth and giving thanks to Riki and Rin for helping them to resolve their regrets before moving on. Also, Rin should be active in this scene (saying something like wanting them to stay together forever), not like an emotionless brick in the original scene. Then they return to original world -> Sad end happens where only Riki and Rin survived

Episode 12: We start with Riki and Rin living their life together after Sad end. Even though they were able to become mature and move on with life just like Kyousuke had wished, they were never truly happy. Time passed until they grow old, and an elderly Rin met Komari (her ghost, spirit or whatever). Rin then made a wish with Komari’s star there, wishing things will go back in time, but this time, she will be strong enough to support Riki. Then TIME TRAVEL!!!
In the new timeline, Riki and Rin woke up, and decided to rescue everyone. This part is probably the most important part in the anime, and very difficult to pull it off. They should add good animation, tension, suspense, dramatic music, EVERYTHING to make this scene EPIC, to show that Riki and Rin working very hard to save every single one on the bus (again, show the extra LB members being rescued as well). A good idea here is that during the rescue, Riki’s narcolepsy kicks in multiple times, and he nearly fell over. But this time, through sheer determination and Rin’s support, Riki pulled it through. When Riki was getting Kyousuke out, the bus caught on fire. His narcolepsy kicked in for the last time, Riki had no choice but to throw Kyousuke out of the window, and collapsed. Rin found out and managed to pull Riki out on time, right before the bus exploded. Riki’s consciousness faded to black.
(Note: Well, I definitely tried to make Rin more useful here, since she deserved more action. Also, I wanted the “wish of the star” to not magically cure Riki of his narcolepsy, but only to help him to stay conscious enough to save everyone -> avoid deus ex machina)

Episode 13: Just go with the happy ending. They could stretch it out by adding some original scenes involving LB having fun together, and LB members finding their resolve (Komari made peace with the fact that her brother died, Mio became more cheerful and outgoing, Haruka got along with her sister, Kud coped with her mother’s death, Yuiko found her joy in life, Kengo attended Yoshiki’s grave). They can go with both normal and Rin’s ending here, first showing Rin evaluating whom to be Riki’s girlfriend. Then later they met in the classroom alone -> she couldn’t bear the thought of seeing Riki going out with anyone else -> decided that she should be his girlfriend instead -> KISSING :)
Then LB went on a trip to the beach and LITTLE JUMPER!!!

Ok, if JCStaff can pull it off at least 70% like this, I would revere them as GOD, by watching every anime they make for the rest of my life. But I doubt it would happen.

Aug 17, 2013 5:27 PM

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I want each Little Busters! character episode to be at least 2-3 episodes (But they should be as long as necessary to cover everything form the VN). but Riki and Rin's episodes ( in the true end ) can be done in 1 episode together since they are not that long.Since Rin gets two 'farewells' with Komari, I'm guessing they will be in 2 separate episodes. (one in the normal end and one in the true end)

I know they are going to pull a Homura on us for Kyousuke, where they will end an episode where Riki has recruited Masato and Kengo, standing outside the door and is 'ready' to recruit Kyousuke. The next episode to be from Kyousuke's perspective where he narrates everything from the beginning from his point of view and the episode will end when Kyousuke and Riki link hands. And we all cry when we watch the episode preview LOL.

As for the 'boys farewell', that speaks for itself. There's no way they can mess up THAT scene unless the music direction is god awful, and the director tones down the voice acting. (if he does.. 'I will find you, and I will kill you').

After the hospital scene, I want the credits to roll up like it did in the VN. I think it will leave the viewers speechless, I mean depressed. And then maybe after the credits, some foreshadowing for key magic but not explicitly , maybe just Rin's bell rings since we want viewers to believe the LB! crew is all dead.

And they HAVE to make that post Refrain scene where they go to the beach. I just watched it yesterday LOL. It was amazing especially during the end.

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Vladz0r said:

isaac_1207 said:
Here is how I envisioned the last 3 episodes of Refrain. It has been a long time since I finished LB, so some parts might be a bit off. Here I go:

Episode 11: Emotional part when Kyousuke reveals the truth of the world and everyone saying their parting words. The extra members of LB (Komari and co.) should also be included in this scene, with them also knowing the truth and giving thanks to Riki and Rin for helping them to resolve their regrets before moving on. Also, Rin should be active in this scene (saying something like wanting them to stay together forever), not like an emotionless brick in the original scene. Then they return to original world -> Sad end happens where only Riki and Rin survived

Episode 12: We start with Riki and Rin living their life together after Sad end. Even though they were able to become mature and move on with life just like Kyousuke had wished, they were never truly happy. Time passed until they grow old, and an elderly Rin met Komari (her ghost, spirit or whatever). Rin then made a wish with Komari’s star there, wishing things will go back in time, but this time, she will be strong enough to support Riki. Then TIME TRAVEL!!!
In the new timeline, Riki and Rin woke up, and decided to rescue everyone. This part is probably the most important part in the anime, and very difficult to pull it off. They should add good animation, tension, suspense, dramatic music, EVERYTHING to make this scene EPIC, to show that Riki and Rin working very hard to save every single one on the bus (again, show the extra LB members being rescued as well). A good idea here is that during the rescue, Riki’s narcolepsy kicks in multiple times, and he nearly fell over. But this time, through sheer determination and Rin’s support, Riki pulled it through. When Riki was getting Kyousuke out, the bus caught on fire. His narcolepsy kicked in for the last time, Riki had no choice but to throw Kyousuke out of the window, and collapsed. Rin found out and managed to pull Riki out on time, right before the bus exploded. Riki’s consciousness faded to black.
(Note: Well, I definitely tried to make Rin more useful here, since she deserved more action. Also, I wanted the “wish of the star” to not magically cure Riki of his narcolepsy, but only to help him to stay conscious enough to save everyone -> avoid deus ex machina)

Episode 13: Just go with the happy ending. They could stretch it out by adding some original scenes involving LB having fun together, and LB members finding their resolve (Komari made peace with the fact that her brother died, Mio became more cheerful and outgoing, Haruka got along with her sister, Kud coped with her mother’s death, Yuiko found her joy in life, Kengo attended Yoshiki’s grave). They can go with both normal and Rin’s ending here, first showing Rin evaluating whom to be Riki’s girlfriend. Then later they met in the classroom alone -> she couldn’t bear the thought of seeing Riki going out with anyone else -> decided that she should be his girlfriend instead -> KISSING :)
Then LB went on a trip to the beach and LITTLE JUMPER!!!

Ok, if JCStaff can pull it off at least 70% like this, I would revere them as GOD, by watching every anime they make for the rest of my life. But I doubt it would happen.

Ahaha, 13 episode Refrain. You're funny. Maybe for the Refrain arc alone, but the entire season will be longer than 1 cour.

Anyway, my thoughts on that:

Not sure how some things will work out, material-wise, since they said there would be no script changes. The ending is what I'm the most fearful for.

Personally, I am not a fan of adapting 100% exactly like the original.

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isaac_1207 said:

The new members were recruited in LB! during the common route.

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isaac_1207 said:

The new members were recruited in LB! during the common route.

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isaac_1207 said:

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Gosh. This discussion is a spoiler minefield.

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The saddest part of Saya's route...

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The saddest part of Saya's route...

LOL no one here except me played and fully understand the story of the EX routes so I can only relate you on that.

Well, I totally agree with you. Despite I can't read Japanese texts, my heart ached so much on that scene to the point I want to cry but I can't because I can't read Japanese texts. ;_;

And goddammit! Just because you posted that picture, I want to replay Saya's route again!

Gitah-Muttan said:
Gosh. This discussion is a spoiler minefield.

I don't even get it why they keep using spoiler tags when this thread itself is already spoiler tagged.

Unless it's EX route related in which from all users who usually lurks on the LB section, I'm the only one here who played the EX routes.

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Tennouji_ said:

LOL no one here except me played and fully understand the story of the EX routes so I can only relate you on that.

I'm the only one here who played the EX routes.

*Eheeeem*

Tennouji_ said:
Despite I can't read Japanese texts, my heart ached so much on that scene to the point I want to cry but I can't because I can't read Japanese texts. ;_;

I read it with MT so I could made out most of it so I cried like a baby.But I didn't start crying from that part,I already cried when

Tennouji_ said:
I want to replay Saya's route again!

Perhaps you should tried Saya's joke ending if you haven't tried it.

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zakkun89 said:

Tennouji_ said:

LOL no one here except me played and fully understand the story of the EX routes so I can only relate you on that.

I'm the only one here who played the EX routes.

*Eheeeem*

I don't usually see you here that I even forgot you LOL. :D

zakkun89 said:

Perhaps you should tried Saya's joke ending if you haven't tried it.

I haven't but I don't even know how to access it. Mind if you give me a walkthrough on how to get the joke ending? I only see some parts of it in YT.

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Tennouji_ said:

I don't usually see you here that I even forgot you LOL. :D

lol Hidoiiiiiii !!!! >.<

Tennouji_ said:
I haven't but I don't even know how to access it. Mind if you give me a walkthrough on how to get the joke ending? I only see some parts of it in YT.

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zakkun89 said:

Wait, that's just simple that I just need to make Saya

many times? I thought there are some choices you need to take. By the way, reaching Saya's True End is the only way to access that right?

Also, how about where Riki went "alpha mode" on the crane machine scene? I totally forgot how to reach that.

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Tennouji_ said:

Wait, that's just simple that I just need to make Saya

many times? I thought there are some choices you need to take. By the way, reaching Saya's True End is the only way to access that right?

You need to walk into all the trap on all the floor until B7F.

Here's a mini Japanese walkthough : http://blog.livedoor.jp/kuryu_/archives/51480166.html
Looking at the map should make it a bit easier.

Tennouji_ said:
Also, how about where Riki went "alpha mode" on the crane machine scene? I totally forgot how to reach that.

Riki isn't a perv ! He just want to know if Saya brought the guns with her !

As for that scene,a little fun fact,the Japs have 2 different walkthrough for Saya's route.The first is Saya's route(stupid Riki version) the second is Saya's route(normal Riki version).I believe that scene is in the stupid version so you should follow the choice in that walkthrough to reach it.

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zakkun89 said:

You need to walk into all the trap on all the floor until B7F.

Here's a mini Japanese walkthough : http://blog.livedoor.jp/kuryu_/archives/51480166.html
Looking at the map should make it a bit easier.

Finally, a very reliable Japanese walkthrough(Just because they included the maps)!

zakkun89 said:

Riki isn't a perv ! He just want to know if Saya brought the guns with her !

As for that scene,a little fun fact,the Japs have 2 different walkthrough for Saya's route.The first is Saya's route(stupid Riki version) the second is Saya's route(normal Riki version).I believe that scene is in the stupid version so you should follow the choice in that walkthrough to reach it.

But that scene is just really hilarious! I facepalm'd so hard on how hilarious it was.

Yeah I know about the "stupid Riki version" and the "normal Riki version" but the first Japanese walkthrough I followed didn't give me that scene. Maybe I'll try that walkthrough if I ever couldn't help myself but to replay Saya's route again because Doki is getting shit for not finishing the translation quickly.

Aug 19, 2013 7:22 AM

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There's nothing wrong or funny about lifting a girl's skirt up to see if she had gun or not !

If you want to see that scene again so much then just watch it on YT.(Not that I keep watching it or anything)

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Not only that specific scene but the whole Saya's route itself. You know how awesome her route is that you can't even hold yourself to play it again.

Aug 19, 2013 7:39 AM

#147

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Mar 2013

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I only replay her route to hear her long masochist rants,evil laugh and weird noise expressions.
Also,it take a true masochist to keep replaying the dungeon in her route.(or see her true ending over and over again....)

Aug 19, 2013 6:22 PM

#148

egnaro15

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Sep 2012

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So I just remembered the best dream I had last night.

I just thought it would be a bonus for the fans.

egnaro15Aug 19, 2013 6:45 PM

Aug 19, 2013 11:00 PM

#149