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Sep 26, 2016 7:44 AM
#151
KawaiiCandy said: Ierakas said: Well it's a win-win to Suwa and Kakeru, they both end up with Naho (even I still didn't know if Kakeru will marry Naho or not in this parallel world). So, this title, Orange, is from those scene, sunset, am I right? Even if this episode is great, but it didn't make me cried, not even shed a tear. I think it needs more impact, but I don't know what it is. Even I cried when I watched Digimon Adventure Tri. 3 Kokuhaku Vacu0us said: anna senpai??orange has the meaning of happiness in japan generallyThe story was amazing but the animation was just terrible for the majority of the time. Definitely not a must watch but the manga is a must read. 6.5/10 Oooh that's new to me, I thought orange in this is a sunset, and sunset always make me sad, it's like the end of adventure time, except if you are a nocturnal. But still, even if it means happiness, I hope it could make me cry of relief or happiness... |
Sep 26, 2016 8:41 AM
#152
| In my opinion, the show was average. They only managed to nail Kakeru's torment in episode 12 when we hear from him his side of the story. So .. for me there were 2 key things that ruined what I thought it would be by the 2nd episode, a 9/10 for me. First .. the total lack of any chemestry and extreme cringe from the Main characters, Naho and Kakeru. Fking hell, I hated their relation, it must have been one of the worst. You could argue about it, Kakeru was all fucked up, but still damn, it didn´t need the cringe. Second, when all of a sudden everyone has a letter from the future. It made the story for me at least, kinda lame and boring. I really enjoyed the idea, that Naho sent her a letter from the future and so on .. but that shiny thing that Naho had (because besides that, she is just the typical extremely shy girl ..) it is stripped away from her when everyone else also had it. It removed form her the personal feeling I had with her. With also average animation and sound, I think a 7/10 it's a fair rate. At the end, was still enjoyable and the rest of the cast was actually nice. Cheers to Hagita and Azusa, easily best couple and the one I hoped to see more about. |
Sep 26, 2016 10:13 AM
#153
| It's actually pretty hard to dodge an oncoming vehicle when riding a bike. Kakeru might still have died if he rode the bike again. Hagita is the true MVP *claps* |
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Sep 26, 2016 11:30 AM
#154
| Really? The anime didn't portray all the feelings of the manga.. But did I miss or they really didn't read the second page of Suwa letter?? I mean THAT was when I cried a river & find his story so heartbreaking!!! T_T Poor boy, he was the real MVP of this show!! |
Sep 26, 2016 12:26 PM
#156
I kinda wonder as to how the gang able to violate Einsteins law of relativity, by sending themselves letters to their past selves? |
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Sep 26, 2016 1:36 PM
#157
| Decent ending. Only thing that troubled me was that the truck diver never got out. Instead just drove away after awhile. Can't that be considered hit and run in a way? While he didn't really hit him, that was still weird. I can see hwy they wouldn't want the driver to interrupt the moment but at least come out after their little conversation? That really took me out of the moment |
Sep 26, 2016 1:49 PM
#158
| I usually don't write forum posts but there's a lot I have to say about this episode. The happy ending felt like such a treat after this emotional roller coaster. I really thought it'd end bad but I'm so glad it didn't. The ending felt right, it wasn't forced or anything and I'm really happy with it. And the few extra scenes with Naho and Kakeru were so cute! People can say what they want, that Naho was too dense, that the time capsule thing wasn't executed well, that the animation was a train wreck ... which is all true. But from a solely emotional stance, the anime was really gripping. Despite its flaws, every episode made me cry (no joke). With Kakeru they created a realistic, relatable character and I think that's what most animes lack. Kakeru really reminded me of my high school self and I could really relate to how he felt and that made the anime into something really special for me. Aaaand one last thing, I think it's great that this anime had so many hugs. We need more genuine hugs in anime! ^^ Because sometimes, that's all a person needs to feel better. 8/10 |
Sep 26, 2016 2:14 PM
#159
| Fell happy for Kakeru to be saved, and at the same time i feel so bad for Suwa, Suwa will be always best guy :( . The story is finally over, though i still want to know what will happen after 10 years, hopefully there will be a movie/OVA or something like that. |
Sep 26, 2016 2:32 PM
#160
| Show had the potential to be really great, but... Well, last ~ 5 episodes were somehow odd for me, including last one (i mean all this stuff with sending mails via Bermuda Triangle and strange behavior of characters). Although i don`t really liked drama, it was still pretty good for shoujo. Last episode is touching, though not outstanding and ughm really predictable. Nevertheless, show is very positive and kind, so 6/10 as for me. Can`t say i didn`t enjoyed the ride. |
Sep 26, 2016 6:24 PM
#161
| Orange, despite being adapted from a manga, feels like taken from a multi-path Visual novel, where it adapts the happy ending. Also, random shot of a black cat irrelevant to the plot. I say it was fun while it lasted, especially because I feel related with Kakeru... but at the same time, I feel sad for Suwa. Seriously, that guy is a treasure. |
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Sep 26, 2016 7:06 PM
#162
| The onion ninja kept trying to attack me 7/10. |
Sep 26, 2016 7:56 PM
#163
| I got spoiled by my anime list annoncing the movie about there future WHERE KAKERKU is!! so yeah, didnt get trilled when the truck breaked. But still enjoyed it! Favorite line of the anime << jitensha kowasou!>> lets break the bike!!! at the end, it might be what saved him XD |
Sep 26, 2016 8:54 PM
#164
| I don't know if anybody noticed, (and wrote it here) but Naho and Suwa are not wearing the same clothes at all in the end, so in the second time line, Naho still ended up with Suwa and Kakeru died again? (or else).... and then she says she will save him again (meaning more time lines) so it's not a happy ending with Kakeru IMO. The Naho and Suwa in the first time line have not saved Kakeru and don't know if their younger selves got the letters. Only Naho and Suwa of the second time line know they saved kakeru then, but 10 years later, Kakeru is still not with them, then she says " (...) again and again, I will save you" Or they saved him, she dated him a while, but she ended up with Suwa anyway. |
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Sep 26, 2016 10:06 PM
#165
| I guess the quality of the last few episodes was all for this one. Too bad the anime ended up being nothing but Forced Feels...I hate forced feels. The tears usually flow for anime like this but I couldn't feel it. Orange felt rushed and again it felt Forced, they they were trying to make us cry. Didn't work. Still a decent anime though. |
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Sep 26, 2016 10:08 PM
#166
Annick said: I don't know if anybody noticed, (and wrote it here) but Naho and Suwa are not wearing the same clothes at all in the end, so in the second time line, Naho still ended up with Suwa and Kakeru died again? (or else).... and then she says she will save him again (meaning more time lines) so it's not a happy ending with Kakeru IMO. The Naho and Suwa in the first time line have not saved Kakeru and don't know if their younger selves got the letters. Only Naho and Suwa of the second time line know they saved kakeru then, but 10 years later, Kakeru is still not with them, then she says " (...) again and again, I will save you" Or they saved him, she dated him a while, but she ended up with Suwa anyway. Or it could just be that original world at a later date. I would guess the manga has the answer which I would recommend unless you wanna wait until November. EDIT: About the Manga ending It ends the same as the anime. =/ |
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Sep 26, 2016 10:34 PM
#167
SoraSenpai said: Annick said: I don't know if anybody noticed, (and wrote it here) but Naho and Suwa are not wearing the same clothes at all in the end, so in the second time line, Naho still ended up with Suwa and Kakeru died again? (or else).... and then she says she will save him again (meaning more time lines) so it's not a happy ending with Kakeru IMO. The Naho and Suwa in the first time line have not saved Kakeru and don't know if their younger selves got the letters. Only Naho and Suwa of the second time line know they saved kakeru then, but 10 years later, Kakeru is still not with them, then she says " (...) again and again, I will save you" Or they saved him, she dated him a while, but she ended up with Suwa anyway. Or it could just be that original world at a later date. I would guess the manga has the answer which I would recommend unless you wanna wait until November. EDIT: About the Manga ending It ends the same as the anime. =/ I also thought about a later date, but the baby is the same size and it's kinda weird to have them climb that mountain again a few days later just to show us that...I think... and the in the first time line they don't know they saved him. I watched the end again and to me, it sounds like the narrator is an older Naho that lives in the second time line, without kakeru but having no regret. At first I thought he had died again (but later) and they created several time lines to save him again but now I think they maybe just parted away like most of highschool couples. |
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Sep 26, 2016 11:21 PM
#168
| Humph... it felt like something was missing to me though. They saved Kakeru so no one was missing anymore (except the Naho-Suwa baby), but it felt wrong to me though. It might be 'cause the Suwa case, when he bit himself to not be happy and with Naho. I was cheering for Naho-Kakeru, but this didn't felt right and the staff knew well why they're making the Suwa movie air right after the end of TV series. But still... It might be 'cause their 'time machine' was... like what? They just wrote letters which appeared ten years ago at their houses. Just... how? If I remember it right, they were talking about the black hole in Bermuda Triangle, that it might get through, then they realized that it would not change how they are living now, it'd just create paralel timeline. Okay, so they just like that went to North Atlantic Ocean and throw the letters out of an airplane or a ship somewhere in the water, hoping that's the place where the black hole is... right? And the letters just "appeared" at their houses even though thrown in the middle of sea... oh, okay, it's hard to come up with an idea of good time machine in 2016, but this is quite ridiculous. And it might be just 'cause the whole episode felt so plain, it was so predicting it hurt; you know, they didn't even have other choice than save Kakeru. It was too clear they're gonna make it dramatical till the end (like Kakeru going on a walk even though all the things that changed), but it was way clearer thay can't make Kakeru die. Even if they did just for it being "different", they couldn't since people wouldn't forgive them (I think). I mean, I wouldn't forgive all the things Naho could do but was too scared to through out the whole show, even though she knew (thanks to the letter) where it's going lead to. Just why did you sent the letter when you couldn't change anything... right? It just couldn't end this way so Kakeru's saving wasn't anything like a surprise. They just did it melodramatically, put it in doubled time episode and there's the grand finale. Huh. I rated the show 9 since I like fights against suicide and I really liked the episode 7, I was even holding onto this rating till the previous episode, but this one killed it to 7 rating and nothing can be done about it anymore. If they didn't make the episode this long at least... ...I hope the movie's not gonna feel this plain. |
Sep 27, 2016 1:01 AM
#169
Sep 27, 2016 1:52 AM
#170
| Best episode i've seen this whole season ^^ I cried a lot at the ending lol I had to like the little part of Naho and Suwa agreeing that they wish there was an alternative world where they got married ^^ |
Sep 27, 2016 3:53 AM
#172
IceBreakerZ said: It's actually pretty hard to dodge an oncoming vehicle when riding a bike. Kakeru might still have died if he rode the bike again. Hagita is the true MVP *claps* except all 5 were there to stop him at 8pm (time he would take with the bike) with the broken bike, kakeru ended up taking longer than expected, and the other 5 left the place and went to his house instead lol so after all i still think the broken bike was the problem |
Sep 27, 2016 8:41 AM
#173
| and in that new timeline, Kakeru thinks he can save his mother by sending a letter to the past... btw, it's a good ending... feels bad to Suwa but at least mission completed... |
Sep 27, 2016 8:50 AM
#174
| In the end I also thought in making a capsule time too, with my friends. Just to see what is different 10 years in the future.. We must preserve the present, to not get any regrets in the future about the past! <3 ^.^ |
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Sep 27, 2016 9:06 AM
#175
winddevil1 said: Well that is true as well, hahaha.IceBreakerZ said: It's actually pretty hard to dodge an oncoming vehicle when riding a bike. Kakeru might still have died if he rode the bike again. Hagita is the true MVP *claps* except all 5 were there to stop him at 8pm (time he would take with the bike) with the broken bike, kakeru ended up taking longer than expected, and the other 5 left the place and went to his house instead lol so after all i still think the broken bike was the problem |
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Sep 27, 2016 9:14 AM
#176
| Overall that was a great episode and a good last episode that ended the anime on a good note Its nice that Kakeru and Naho were finally able to talk and that she was able to tell him all the things that she wanted to say to him. And most importantly that they are finally a couple. The scene where she apologized to him was cool as her future and current selfs overlapped with each other. Naho though really surprises me with her determination and her willingness to protect Kakeru and change his fate Im glad that Naho managed to give her chocolate to Kakeru after and that they finally end as a couple Both are lucky to have friends that are doing so much to support them as well Naho and friends trying to stop the accident though was nice scene you can see just how much they want to save him from his fate Damm im glad to see he survived and that his memories of the good times he spent with his friends ensured that And when they each gave them the letters that their future selfs wrote to him that was emotional. Im glad that they managed to convey their feelings and regrets to him Parallel worlds though is an interesting concept though |
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Sep 27, 2016 10:04 AM
#177
| And the feel train have just arrived at its desination! (sicke, A Big movie Feeltrain have just departure and left the station! Think i need a Hagisa hug..lol <3 but omg this was a incredible journey with marvelous anime! Cant say no more but i was crying the whole episode with sadness and happiness, 9.4/10 |
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Sep 27, 2016 11:36 AM
#178
| In the end even with Naho's trying her best to avoid Kakeru of killing himself he even tried, a big clap to Hagita that messed up with the bike. A good end for this world Kakeru, but I am sorry, I could not cheer for him once during the whole show, it's hard to like the other guys when we have a great character like Suwa, I could not help but wish that he could be happy and be with Naho, I know that it would go to the normal shoujo route, but know what? I would be happier like that... Orange was painful to watch many times, Kakeru was not a charismatic character, I might watch the movie, but I know it's going to be painful 8/10 |
Sep 27, 2016 12:33 PM
#179
| Man, the last episode made me cry quite a lot of times lol 8/10 |
Sep 27, 2016 12:35 PM
#180
| Naho was great there. Really liked when she said "I wanna date you" and kept being aggressive. Some of the direction... was weird. The camera angles, too. What's with the face close-ups, they were too close and I was like eh. wut. But overall, it was great, amazing even where it mattered more. Loved the music. Suwa is too self-sacrificing, but I understand his point. I hope he confesses once Kakeru settles down in his life at least. Suwa x Kakeru is nice too but Hagita x Kakeru makes me laugh so yup good stuff lol. O..kay... so future Naho actually feels motherly love for Kakeru now? Or maybe it was normal love at first (definitely more on supportive side tho) but all the time spent worrying and regretting made her love into an even more supportive one, and eventually turning into parental love. Interesting. Pretty much hints that Naho x Kakeru won't work out. They were able to save him... Kakeru's monologues made me almost cry. I'm glad they finally told him about the letters. That scene was lovable. Loved what the letters said too. Hagita the MVP lmao Yes for Hagita x Azusa hell yeah! Suwa pls. You guys will marry in every universe I bet. "If there was one, it'd be nice." "That's right." FOR REAL. Flirting in front of your boyfriend, Naho lmao. I love this. Loved this scene. Okay, best episode yet. This is one of those episodes which did the job even better than the manga. I'm glad they managed to wrap it up well. The direction was superb, over-all. Looking forward to the sequel spin-off from Suwa's POV and the future! |
Sep 27, 2016 1:39 PM
#181
TragicRomance said: Naho was great there. Really liked when she said "I wanna date you" and kept being aggressive. Some of the direction... was weird. The camera angles, too. What's with the face close-ups, they were too close and I was like eh. wut. But overall, it was great, amazing even where it mattered more. Loved the music. Suwa is too self-sacrificing, but I understand his point. I hope he confesses once Kakeru settles down in his life at least. Suwa x Kakeru is nice too but Hagita x Kakeru makes me laugh so yup good stuff lol. O..kay... so future Naho actually feels motherly love for Kakeru now? Or maybe it was normal love at first (definitely more on supportive side tho) but all the time spent worrying and regretting made her love into an even more supportive one, and eventually turning into parental love. Interesting. Pretty much hints that Naho x Kakeru won't work out. They were able to save him... Kakeru's monologues made me almost cry. I'm glad they finally told him about the letters. That scene was lovable. Loved what the letters said too. Hagita the MVP lmao Yes for Hagita x Azusa hell yeah! Suwa pls. You guys will marry in every universe I bet. "If there was one, it'd be nice." "That's right." FOR REAL. Flirting in front of your boyfriend, Naho lmao. I love this. Loved this scene. Okay, best episode yet. This is one of those episodes which did the job even better than the manga. I'm glad they managed to wrap it up well. The direction was superb, over-all. Looking forward to the sequel spin-off from Suwa's POV and the future! YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. |
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Sep 27, 2016 1:53 PM
#182
Annick said: TragicRomance said: Naho was great there. Really liked when she said "I wanna date you" and kept being aggressive. Some of the direction... was weird. The camera angles, too. What's with the face close-ups, they were too close and I was like eh. wut. But overall, it was great, amazing even where it mattered more. Loved the music. Suwa is too self-sacrificing, but I understand his point. I hope he confesses once Kakeru settles down in his life at least. Suwa x Kakeru is nice too but Hagita x Kakeru makes me laugh so yup good stuff lol. O..kay... so future Naho actually feels motherly love for Kakeru now? Or maybe it was normal love at first (definitely more on supportive side tho) but all the time spent worrying and regretting made her love into an even more supportive one, and eventually turning into parental love. Interesting. Pretty much hints that Naho x Kakeru won't work out. They were able to save him... Kakeru's monologues made me almost cry. I'm glad they finally told him about the letters. That scene was lovable. Loved what the letters said too. Hagita the MVP lmao Yes for Hagita x Azusa hell yeah! Suwa pls. You guys will marry in every universe I bet. "If there was one, it'd be nice." "That's right." FOR REAL. Flirting in front of your boyfriend, Naho lmao. I love this. Loved this scene. Okay, best episode yet. This is one of those episodes which did the job even better than the manga. I'm glad they managed to wrap it up well. The direction was superb, over-all. Looking forward to the sequel spin-off from Suwa's POV and the future! YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. |
Sep 27, 2016 1:57 PM
#183
TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. |
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Sep 27, 2016 2:03 PM
#184
Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. |
Sep 27, 2016 2:12 PM
#185
| Man, the ending was great! I didn't even realize it was 40 MINUTES, that flew by so fast! The ending made it all worth it. But as for the anime as a whole, I'd say it was good, but didn't really pull me in too much. I liked the story and I really liked the friend group, but I just felt like there wasn't a lot of meat on this anime, compared to something like ReLife. I do like how they deal with suicide and Kakeru's depression, but I felt like there wasn't much to offer in this anime. It was good on its core principles: the friend group, the time parallels, and Kakeru, but everything else to felt a little bland. Also Naho could get on my nerves at times. But I'm glad the anime actually went somewhere at the end and had a satisfying conclusion that made all the other less than stellar episodes worth it. I'd give it a 7/10, it was a good watch despite my problems with it. |
Sep 27, 2016 2:21 PM
#187
TragicRomance said: Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. Ah! You're guys discussion is very interesting! I didn't even think about that. I think you guys are right on that now that I watched it again. |
Sep 27, 2016 2:41 PM
#188
TragicRomance said: Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. Yes that also, seems clearer in the manga though because of the last images (not going to spoil) . Here, It's just the two of them, there is no sunset, they are not dressed the same but the baby is the same age. Also all the narration is different, it's no longer the Naho of the letter who is talking because, that one never knew if the letter reach her former self, but that new Naho who grew up. |
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Sep 27, 2016 2:45 PM
#189
LoomyTheBrew said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. Ah! You're guys discussion is very interesting! I didn't even think about that. I think you guys are right on that now that I watched it again. And it makes the story more interesting that way isn't it? All along the story we were told that even if we know the future, there are things we can't change, and finishing saying she can be with both but in different worlds is kind of too easy IMO. I posted the image of their clothing in a previous post. |
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Sep 27, 2016 3:51 PM
#190
Annick said: LoomyTheBrew said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. Ah! You're guys discussion is very interesting! I didn't even think about that. I think you guys are right on that now that I watched it again. And it makes the story more interesting that way isn't it? All along the story we were told that even if we know the future, there are things we can't change, and finishing saying she can be with both but in different worlds is kind of too easy IMO. I posted the image of their clothing in a previous post. I agree--some things aren't meant to be changed, they are better the way they are. Tbh when I read the manga, I felt like Kakeru should have died in this timeline too 'cause I felt it would pack more emotional punch. It didn't have to be a suicide, instead he really dies by accident but "with a smile" His time was simply up in the world no matter what, that kinda thing. The characters would learn to deal with it. Also, it would portray a realistic message that you can't change the past. It's better to look forward (tho ye it would make the whole thing kinda. uh. pointless? Pointless isn't the right word tho. As Kakeru and others still get noteworthy development) But the anime managed to change my mind and make me thing that this one is very nice as well. Kakeru lives, but the fundamental things, which originally happened, don't change (Suwa x Naho for example). I liked this episode's content much more in anime format than the manga. |
Sep 27, 2016 4:45 PM
#191
TragicRomance said: Annick said: LoomyTheBrew said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: TragicRomance said: Annick said: YES! At least someone who sees this like me. Naho does not end up with Kakeru in the second time line either! WHY NOBODY NOTICES IT'S NOT THE NAHO AND SUWA OF THE FIRST TIME LINE WE SEE AT THE END! :'( (Boohoo) Sorry it just annoys me that nobody mentions it. Haha don't worry, you are not alone. I have seen people who agree that Naho/Kakeru won't work out in the long run and Suwa/Naho will eventually happen as it's meant to be. I mean, they got married and had a baby. They got that far in the original timeline. I could, maybe, digest it if Suwa/Naho were just dating in the original timeline and then Kakeru x Naho happened in the alt., but nah. They married and it seems like a happy marriage, and they balance each other out. So. I feel like they should remain canon in every universe. Star-crossed lovers is the term, I guess. There are many hints though, the clothes and time being different at the end and also the narration. I can't wait to see the movie. Ahh so that's what you meant. I read your comment carefully now. If that's the case, then it makes sense showing that scene 'cause Kakeru was asking "what am I doing? am I married to Naho in the future? etc." and then they switched to that scene. I see! The answer is "he isn't, but he's still living a good life. Suwa x Naho happened.' Also it was just two of them and not the group. You are right, I think. Ah! You're guys discussion is very interesting! I didn't even think about that. I think you guys are right on that now that I watched it again. And it makes the story more interesting that way isn't it? All along the story we were told that even if we know the future, there are things we can't change, and finishing saying she can be with both but in different worlds is kind of too easy IMO. I posted the image of their clothing in a previous post. I agree--some things aren't meant to be changed, they are better the way they are. Tbh when I read the manga, I felt like Kakeru should have died in this timeline too 'cause I felt it would pack more emotional punch. It didn't have to be a suicide, instead he really dies by accident but "with a smile" His time was simply up in the world no matter what, that kinda thing. The characters would learn to deal with it. Also, it would portray a realistic message that you can't change the past. It's better to look forward (tho ye it would make the whole thing kinda. uh. pointless? Pointless isn't the right word tho. As Kakeru and others still get noteworthy development) But the anime managed to change my mind and make me thing that this one is very nice as well. Kakeru lives, but the fundamental things, which originally happened, don't change (Suwa x Naho for example). I liked this episode's content much more in anime format than the manga. We might learn more in the next movie. At first, I thought he had died again but in other circumstances because we don't see him older and also because of what she said. I thought they were going to save him several times, then I thought saving him once and having no regret was enough whatever happens in the end. Hm.... In the manga, I felt like he had died in this time line as well; in the anime, i'm less sure, he may be living somewhere and if he needs it, they will will save him again. |
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Sep 27, 2016 6:21 PM
#192
Sep 27, 2016 9:38 PM
#193
| Very good! Stayed faithful to the manga....I think I would have enjoyed this more had I not just recently read it....so like.....there was no surprise lol. Anyway 8/10 |
Sep 27, 2016 10:28 PM
#194
Shiori_hime said: maisieb973 said: Yay! Happy ending, I'm so glad. Cute how Suwa and Kakeru both get Naho in different worlds haha. I've read lots of posts saying that the manga is better than the anime though so I'm keen to read it! I've never read manga before though so I don't know how it works. Can someone please help? Where can I buy it, or can I read it online in English or something? Probably stupid questions but I'd appreciate someone helping a beginner out :^) I read it on mangapark, but there are plenty of other free manga sites on the internet. When you go to a site, just search the title in the search bar and you'll find all the chapters. ^^ Yay! Thank you friend :^) x |
Sep 28, 2016 12:02 AM
#196
| Overall good feels. More grounded/sol compared to recent time travel shows. Suicide theme is well presented & reminds of NHK (tho that had more ridiculous events). Later half got bit stagnant mostly due Naho's difficult personality, overly passive afraid & saying the wrong things. But nice things worked out and Kakeru's depression isn't fully resolved, where Naho promises to save him again, and some events were shown to be unchangeable, quite like that sense of realism. |
Sep 28, 2016 12:32 PM
#197
Sep 28, 2016 1:49 PM
#198
| I usually don't post in the forum here, but this series left me quite biased, so I feel I want to write something, especially because there are a few things that nobody seems to have noticed or mentioned. Overall I thought it was a nice series. For me, it was not a series about romance, but about friendship, great friendship - and of course about suicide and the issues that can lead people to it. Especially in Japan where suicide happens way too often, this is quite the delicate topic. (At least Kakeru didn't jump in front of a train ...) Anyway, there are two things that made me cringe A LOT: 1.) No matter how hard everyone around him tried or what they sacrificed for him, Kakeru just didn't seem to change his mind at all. It's true that it's difficult for people who have not been in the same situation to really understand Kakeru's feelings, but he has a great grandma, is in perfect health, can play the sport that he loves and what's most important he has the BEST friends in the world. How can he still feel like killing himself? Especially around New Years, when the exact same reaction was triggered after all that effort, it was really frustrating to watch. I kind of understand why Kakeru tried to kill himself in the original timeline, but ... I just don't get him well in the "altered timeline". But that's just me, so don't mind me. ;) 2.) And this is the BIG one for me. Yes, Suwa is awesome. Suwa is willing to sacrifice his shiny future with the girl he loves in order to save a good friend's life. Kudos to Suwa ... But ... wait! Is he really a hero? I'm really surprised that this wasn't discussed here at all, but who really cares about who Naho ends up with? The series is not about that! They wanted to save a person's life. A person that was dear to them. Ok, got that. But what about the baby in the future? It is hinted in the end that there are 2 parallel futures, so in one the baby lives, in one it is never born. BUT none of the characters KNEW what would happen! They were all not sure if the future they live in would just disappear or if they would create a second parallel future. This means they were ALL ready (especially Suwa) to sacrifice ONE life (the baby) for another (Kakeru). And this just makes me ANGRY! I do understand they have regrets. I totally understand why they wanted to save their friend. I just wish there would have been no baby ..... And don't tell me all is good, because it's a second, different, future, so the baby got to live. What angers me is that the characters couldn't know that for sure when they decided to change the future. Maybe it's because I'm about 20 years older than the average user here that I get so upset about the baby, but yeah ..... just wanted to splurt it out. ;) Other than that, I thought it was a really nice series. Who wouldn't love to have friends like that? ;) |
Sep 28, 2016 7:58 PM
#199
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