Happy Sugar Life
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FullyCharged said: There should be no restrictions of any kind for fiction, aside from obvious plagiarism. Like no censorship, no age laws, no content restrictions or bias. Like if someone wants to tell a gripping story and also have porn in it (like is the case with eroge and sometimes doujins), then let them. Even if HSL was a lesbian pedophilic porn story, so what? Nobody has any right to bitch about it... just don't watch/read it if it bothers you.But hey, fiction is where you can accept basically everything because it's not real, but of course most people have to use the same exact filter for both RL and fiction. ps: i watched this anime twice in a row the first time i completed it... literally scrambled my brains a bit, not because it was stuff i couldn't fathom, but that i couldn't believe somebody wrote this... hit me like a ton of bricks and i had to watch it again right after finishing it. Have a super precious Shio pic (also on my profile): |
GenesisAriaSep 30, 2019 2:25 PM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power.  “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| god I think Shio is so unbelievably annoying. girl you're like 6 you can't make those decisions shut the f up |
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Agree though, a child literally can't consent, a child's frontal lobe (the decision making part of your brain) isn't fully developed yet meaning children this young don't know what they're actually doing. In a few years she might look back and realise she was taken advantage of, really sad how people encourage this kind of 'love'. |
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GenesisAria said: Just fyi, i was talking about both fiction and reality honestly. His prejudices (and many other people in modern western society) are very broken even in irl context. Subjects like this are too hard for people to not automatically go into steaming vigilante witch-hunter crusade mode, voiding all logic... I'm not a guy, you idiots. @yonaaofthedawn: Yes, EXACTLY. The kid is too young. EIGHT IS TOO YOUNG. Yeah, it's fiction...but it's bad taste. I don't think liking fiction makes you a bad person. But this "ship" is in bad taste and if you ship this, you have bad taste. xD I think the author KNOWS it's bad taste and that's why he didn't let them BE together. Also, about kissing on the lips, it's not really weird at all, at that age. If the DOCTORS say "Don't do it", then you shouldn't. Hello? They are doctors. |
ChiibiNov 3, 2019 11:53 AM
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Chiibi said: A) I don't really care what your gender is, sorry for getting it wrong but freaking out over it is what people with internal problems in their psyche.I don't think liking fiction makes you a bad person. But this "ship" is in bad taste and if you ship this, you have bad taste. xD I think the author KNOWS it's bad taste and that's why he didn't let them BE together. B) As always, bad taste compared to WHAT? If you are saying 2 people who on their own were doomed to oblivion, coming together, learning from eachother, growing and improving and becoming happy, is in "BAD TASTE", then it is you that has the bad taste. Your view is dangerously idealistic and puts a bad taste of ideological corruption in my mouth. You should think it through more thoroughly with a more clear head. The overarching narrative of Happy Sugar Life, particularly the REALITY of Satou and SHio's relationship, is one of the most pure and beautiful powerful thing si have seen in fiction in a long time. I'd prefer the petty strawman complaining not invade it like cancer. Chiibi said: Lmaowut? Doctors tell you to do all kinds of shit you shouldn't do, and tell you you shouldn't do things that are proven beneficial... Doctor does not equate to priest you should obey every word because you think they are somehow superior infallible beings. Half the time they are slave to pharmaceutical propaganda, so that's another thing too. Also more than half of psychology is full of ideological bs which is inadequately tested and preemptively concluded.Also, about kissing on the lips, it's not really weird at all, at that age. If the DOCTORS say "Don't do it", then you shouldn't. Hello? They are doctors. |
GenesisAriaNov 3, 2019 5:10 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: B) As always, bad taste compared to WHAT? If you are saying 2 people who on their own were doomed to oblivion, coming together, learning from eachother, growing and improving and becoming happy, is in "BAD TASTE", then it is you that has the bad taste. You can do that platonically. And it doesn't help that I've seen that exact same love story done over and over much more tastefully in other series. "Two broken souls find each other and become whole"? F*CK YEAH. I'm a sucker for that shit. I eat it up. But SatouxShio just...doesn't do it very well. And I don't think that's what the series was even TRYING to do in the first place. That's only the illusion it is pulling off. That is the story through Satou's eyes. But the whole point of the story is, Satou is insane. So the reality is, they are very BAD for each other. Hell, Satou didn't even kill people before she met Shio. Now she's killing left and right. How is this "improving"!? She got worse and her whole indifference toward life has now even poisoned Shio's mind as shown in the final scene. "Romance" between a prepubescent eight-year-old who acts like she's three and a loose, pyschotic girl two years away from adulthood is absolutely "bad taste" compared to the much more wholesome couples in anime...you know, like ones the same age...or only a couple years apart? Ones who DON'T keep their partner locked up in a room? Ones who are capable of making their own decisions because they understand the concept of romantic love? But nope, a teenager lusting over and taking advantage of a little kid half her age is a MUCH better idea to you, eh? Haha what the f**k? I think you should interview people about this idea. See how they respond. I predict disgusted, "WTF" looks. You should think it through more thoroughly with a more clear head. My head's perfectly clear. When I read the manga, I was clearly thinking "Ew, this is wrong; this 'romance' is a sick joke". Like a lot of people. The overarching narrative of Happy Sugar Life, particularly the REALITY of Satou and SHio's relationship, is one of the most pure and beautiful powerful thing si have seen in fiction in a long time. I'd prefer the petty strawman complaining not invade it like cancer. Child grooming isn't "beautiful" or "pure" and it's disturbing that you think it is. You must love Boku No Pico. Also, if you prefer the world to revolve around YOUR opinion, I advise you to stay off social media. The world is not a bubble. People will disagree on things...and they are allowed. Also more than half of psychology is full of ideological bs which is inadequately tested and preemptively concluded. I would like you to interview every parent you know and ask them if it's a good idea to kiss children the same way they kiss their spouse. Lol |
ChiibiNov 3, 2019 7:56 PM
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Chiibi said: How is this not platonic? Like what? You going to try and shove that "she's witha kid therefore automaticlaly is sexually motivated" bullshit agian are you?GenesisAria said: You can do that platonically. And it doesn't help that I've seen that exact same love story done over and over much more tastefully in other series.B) As always, bad taste compared to WHAT? If you are saying 2 people who on their own were doomed to oblivion, coming together, learning from eachother, growing and improving and becoming happy, is in "BAD TASTE", then it is you that has the bad taste. Chiibi said: That is EXACTLY what the series is trying to do and it pulled it off spectacularly."Two broken souls find each other and become whole"? F*CK YEAH. I'm a sucker for that shit. I eat it up. But SatouxShio just...doesn't do it very well. And I don't think that's what the series was even TRYING to do in the first place. Chiibi said: Lol... Here we go again... Okay,That's only the illusion it is pulling off. That is the story through Satou's eyes. But the whole point of the story is, Satou is insane. So the reality is, they are very BAD for each other. Hell, Satou didn't even kill people before she met Shio. Now she's killing left and right. How is this "improving"!? A) No Satou isn't crazy at all. I've explained this shit countless times to countless people, including in this forum. With a very thorough and pedantic character analysis, Satou is not even a yandere, she only APPEARS to be (i thought she was an indepth character study of a yandere at first, only to be subverted). B) Because she didn't kill anyone (as far as we know) prior, doesn't mean she wasn't already prone to doing so. C) She didn't kill a SINGLE HUMAN BEING who did NOT do something malicious towards Shio. Garbage bag dude was trying to pedo up Shio, so Satou killed him with protective instinct. The park guys were trying to fuck with Shio, so Satou attacked them violently out of protective instinct. She's a live wire and can be dangerous, but she never killed anyone in vain, and even showed DISTINCT INTERNAL REGRET upon reflecting on what she did to her friend, and attempted to repent (the fact she forgot the ring in the first place was because she was so distracted by her fucking regret, and taking as good care as she could of her friend's body out of respect and remorse). She killed her friend because she had no choice, there was no way she could talk her out of it, and it would endanger Shio, so once again, protective instinct. Chiibi said: Oh my word. Several times throughout the anime Satou was TAUGHT things about what love actually was BY SHIO. Satou was a broken girl who had no damn clue wtf love was, Satou didn't have a real mother, she'd never known familial love or anything. She was a broken individual who was subject to negativity and ignorance. She knew nothing of love, except for what Shio taught her. Many times she learned, and constantly she cared for Shio. At first she kept her locked indoors believing that was the best way to protect her. But as this started causing Shio harm, she learned and tried her best to give Shio freedom, which then backfired, and Satou got scared again.She got worse and her whole indifference toward life has now even poisoned Shio's mind as shown in the final scene. The epilogue scene was a bit egregious, but is not the point of the story, and wasn't even the real ending (the anime went past the manga). Due to a Series of Unfortunate Events, they ended up in a predicament in which there was no way out, all options lead to game over. So they decided that they would double suicide to make it quick rather than burning alive. Satou learned her final and most important lesson of true love (one that many people in real life never even manage to get to), and that is, that in that situation, there is no option. If you love them, the only option is self sacrifice. You protect the one you love, that is the only way. In those final moments, Satou made the ultimate sacrifice, she curled herself around Shio to save her life. Chiibi said: This anime was extremely wholesome, simply within a shit-stained world. I can see you are more here bitching about the ages than the actual context, so all i can do is chop that up to virtue policing."Romance" between a prepubescent eight-year-old who acts like she's three and a loose, psychotic girl two years away from adulthood is absolutely "bad taste" compared to the much more wholesome couples in anime...you know, like ones the same age...or only a couple years apart? Ones who DON'T keep their partner locked up in a room? Ones who are capable of making their own decisions because they understand the concept of romantic love? ps: i've seen multiple romances that involve growing pains like this, and turn out very happily ever after. this also happens in reality from time to time, with varying degrees of severity. Shio didn't bond with Satou because Satou brainwashed her. Shio wanted to be with Satou, because Satou actually loved her, cared for her and gave her happy days and a motherly lover-figure she needed. Satou is also a very GOOD parental figure, because she listens to Shio, listens to what she has to say, listens to her needs and tries her best to give that to her, whilst doing everything to protect her. This is something lacking in most parents these days, who mostly all fall into 1 of 2 camps: either they completely uninvolve themselves with their childs' lives, or they control their every doing with an iron fist, and both lead to extremely disadvantaged people later in life. Take out the extreme murderous aspect of her protective instinct, and Satou is a shining example of a brilliant parent who can learn from their child as much as their child can benefit from them. She made a mistake (locking Shio up in the house)... every parent makes mistakes, except she LEARNS from her mistakes and learns how to become a better person. Most parents NEVER LEARN. Chiibi said: You must not have watched Happy Sugar Life.But nope, a teenager lusting over and taking advantage of a little kid half her age is a MUCH better idea to you, eh? Chiibi said: No you aren't, because you twisted the story to suit your biases and pedo-paranoia.GenesisAria said: My head's perfectly clear. When I read the manga, I was clearly thinking "Ew, this is wrong; this 'romance' is a sick joke". Like a lot of people.You should think it through more thoroughly with a more clear head. Chiibi said: You are showing your colours here plain as day. You are crusading virtue, not here to present logic and reason. If you looked at my list you'd see no Boku no Pico. Also i've evaded that shit like the plague since i first heard of it back in 2009. Nice attempt to attack me. It's quite clear tha tyou are deluded into thinking this is some kind of sexual fantasy. Please refer to my signature. It is you who is the gross one for overthinking it into some sexuallly abusive deviant something or other, because you can't get the idea of people wanting to fuck kids out of your head. You are showing distinct lack of capability in distinguishing between platonic and sexual relationships (yes, it's possible to love loli on a personal level without being sex-forcussed, i know, mind blown right?).GenesisAria said: Child grooming isn't "beautiful" or "pure" and it's disturbing that you think it is. You must love Boku No PicoThe overarching narrative of Happy Sugar Life, particularly the REALITY of Satou and SHio's relationship, is one of the most pure and beautiful powerful thing si have seen in fiction in a long time. I'd prefer the petty strawman complaining not invade it like cancer. I'm not going to talk about child grooming with you, other than to say that for your argument to be valid, you would have to imply that every parent is a child groomer, because they are objectively no different in this regard. Chiibi said: Touche. Try practicing what you preach. Also, i don't preach opinion as often as you might think. Most of what i state in open conversation is based on logical reasoning with presented premises and theses, based on established axioms.Also, if you prefer the world to revolve around YOUR opinion, I advise you to stay off social media. The world is not a bubble. Chiibi said: Prove that this is happening. Did Satou french Shio? No, no she did not. Did Satou ever engage in any interpersonal activities without Shio's consent or even Shio's lead? No she did not. My parents kissed me on the lips, and neither of them particularly liked me that much. Tons of families do this. I know people from parts of the world where kissing is casual greeting (not meming, i'm being serious), granted usually on the cheek. I've also seen japanese students (both boys and girls) lip-kiss same sex normal friends for fun.GenesisAria said: I would like you to interview every parent you know and ask them if it's a good idea to kiss children the same way they kiss their spouse. LolAlso more than half of psychology is full of ideological bs which is inadequately tested and preemptively concluded. If you want to address the romantic light it may have been portrayed in... Oh boy do i ever have a doozy for you. Ever watch Hibike Euphonium? There was one part where everyone thought it was going full-on yuri, they portrayed it in such an overdone romantic light that everyone was convinced they were going for yuri plot,and it even started a bunch of conflicts amongst watchers and fans.... There was no yuri plot, they weren't even trying to do that, the creators were confused that people thought that that whole little date thing and the way it was shown seemed extremely romantic to most viewers. So, you can't use romantic posturing as "proof" for a disproportionately romantic interaction. Hopefully now you understand a thing or 2 about this art piece. This story is incredibly moving and beautiful, and i will defend it to the death. It is unexpectedly pure and sincere, it is very educational, and it is very well put together. I have not seen an anime this deeply moving and take such a real deep dive into unconventional psyche, as well as a realistic address to genuine deep love, in a very long time. As in, i put this anime up near the likes of Clannad. If you can't get over the age thing, that sounds like a personal problem. |
GenesisAriaNov 3, 2019 11:33 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
yonaaofthedawn said: You clearly don't know facts.Agree though, a child literally can't consent, a child's frontal lobe (the decision making part of your brain) isn't fully developed yet meaning children this young don't know what they're actually doing. In a few years she might look back and realise she was taken advantage of, really sad how people encourage this kind of 'love'. A) Your understanding of what the Prefrontal Cortex does is very misinformed. It is NOT the decision-making part of the brain. It is a glorified memory centre and scenario simulation device. It allows you to recall and emulate (view) memories in detail, and it also allows you to fabricate artificial scenarios in which you can use to predict possible outcomes. This phenomenon has been extensively tested, and it has been shown that over-reliance on the simulation of events as a key factor in decision making more often leads to the WRONG choice, with a false sense of being right. In contrast, over and over it has been proven that instinctual decisions, based on gut feeling, are more often the better decisions overall. If anything this suggests that adults are WORSE at making decisions due to over-thinking. ...Oh yeah, and most of human history disagrees with this nonsensical notion of underdevelopment too. Especially seeing as due to our lifestyles and what we consume, children are physically developing sooner/younger now than pretty much ever before. You should do your research before making claims like this, as they are usually based on journalist propaganda to feed into some kind of campaign (which is exploiting children in a different way). B) Have you ever even talked to people who have been exploited as children? Somehow i doubt it. I have, many times, and the reality is drastically different from the media fear-mongering propaganda. Not saying that sexual exploitation is not a bad thing, but it's immensely disproportionately exaggerated (for the "Protect the Children" movement, which exploits and sabotages children all over the world). Regardless, as i've said over and over and over and over and over again. There was NOTHING sexual in this anime between Satou and Shio. NONE. Therefore, all of these arguments are irrelevant anyway. ps: a child still has to consent to plenty of non-sexual actions in their life. the more people (including parents) do things agaisnt the will of the child, the more they are able to be taken to court for criminal mistreatment of said child (and rightfully so, treating anyone like a slave or pet just because you decide they are inept is disgusting). pps: don't forget HSL is also fiction. |
GenesisAriaNov 3, 2019 11:13 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| @GenesisAria Congrats, you're just as insane as Satou. I really cannot believe you are typing these words. How is this not platonic? I WISH IT WERE. But they were planning to get married and guess what? Married people have sex. I know. Shocking. It would have been FINE otherwise but no, the author just HAD to go there, didn't he? Pervert. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say you love them as a couple? Yet here you are, insisting they have a parent-child relationship? Isn't that kinda....I dunno....CREEPY? XD It should be one or the other. I AM able to appreciate a parent-child relationship between Satou and Shio. I just don't want them to kiss or talk about marriage because ew, that ruins it. Nobody needs the yuri version of Usagi Drop, okay. No you aren't, because you twisted the story to suit your biases and pedo-paranoia. Lmao. Hon, I ship a 13-teen-year-old with an adult serial killer. Yes, that's right. F**ked up? Yes, it sure is. At least I can admit to that. And before you @ at me, I love the idea of him not realizing he loves her until she comes of age. Happy Sugar Life's manga ended a couple months ago. You should look up what happens. :) |
ChiibiNov 4, 2019 8:55 AM
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Chiibi said: Congrats you are more insane than satou because you can't see the obvious and instead create pessimistic fantasies out of nothing. Everything i said is true and factual and based on what is in the story, and i went over it in immense detail, and clearly you either weren't reading /paying attention or too busy freaking out and thinking about child sex all the time... You should consider talking to a psychologist about that.@GenesisAria Congrats, you're just as insane as Satou. I really cannot believe you are typing these words. Chiibi said: What the fuck are you smoking? Many married people don't have sex, and it's a fact that couples even lose sexual motivation over time being together if they were sexually active. People can get married, and not have sex. I know. Shocking. NOWHERE IN THIS ANIME IS IT REMOTELY IMPLIED ANYTHING SEXUAL. I never said anything sexual between them, you need to stop dreaming about people wanting to fuck kids, because it's a fucking delusion you have.GenesisAria said: I WISH IT WERE. But they were planning to get married and guess what? Married people have sex. I know. Shocking. It would have been FINE otherwise but no, the author just HAD to go there, didn't he? Pervert.How is this not platonic? Chiibi said: I see it as an unorthodox atypical relationship. It's parent-child and eventually individual partnership... Something in between. UchiMusume had a similar thing in it, though nowhere near as incredible as HSL.And, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say you love them as a couple? Yet here you are, insisting they have a parent-child relationship? Isn't that kinda....I dunno....CREEPY? XD It should be one or the other. I AM able to appreciate a parent-child relationship between Satou and Shio. I just don't want them to kiss or talk about marriage because ew, that ruins it. Nobody needs the yuri version of Usagi Drop, okay. Chiibi said: You are being retarded and insane. All you are freaking out about is your fear, paranoia, and hatred for the idea of pedophilia. People bitched about that shit in UchiMusume too, because they're retarded. While Shio is little, Satou is a mother. When Shio becomes enough to be an equal (probably around the 12yo range), then they could be a couple. Yes what i said about you is true, and nothing you said contested my statement. Because around that age is when humans come into self identity and understanding of the world if not hindered by the cancer of shitty parenting and dogshit education systems. Read my post to yonaaofthedawn above for some hard facts and reality checks on that matter. So yeah, get your head out of your ass.GenesisAria said: Lmao. Hon, I ship a 13-teen-year-old with an adult serial killer. Yes, that's right. F**ked up? Yes, it sure is. At least I can admit to that. And before you @ at me, I love the idea of him not realizing he loves her until she comes of age.No you aren't, because you twisted the story to suit your biases and pedo-paranoia. (I should point out that girls who freak out about underage shit are considerably rare, most girls and women i come across are like yeah w/e, no biggie as long as nobody hurt, you know, like a rational sensible human being. That entire dramatic hyperbolic uproar is created mostly by men, and mostly british origin; the country that sees sex as dirty and bad and tries to condemn it as much as possible. Most of the people making an uproar about the badness of pedophilia and screeching it pointing fingers everywhere, are themselves pedophiles exploiting children and scapegoating by blaming others and virtue signalling, and has been proven many times with background checks... If you want to be amongst that crowd, then be my guest. I despise all forms of child exploitation/abuse and promote all forms of love and affection and benefit towards children.) I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually a lolicon or shotacon deep down XD I've met other lolicon girls and shotacon girls. There's nothing wrong with that, it's not particularly abnormal. Chiibi said: Not relevant, HSL anime ended before the anime got past a certain part of the story. I will read it eventually, but the ending of the anime was made before the ending of the manga.Happy Sugar Life's manga ended a couple months ago. You should look up what happens. :) |
GenesisAriaNov 5, 2019 4:39 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: What the fuck are you smoking? Um, what the fuck are YOU smoking? o_O Many married people don't have sex Ha, yeah right. Satou's had sex with LOTS of boys...what makes you think she won't rape Shio, if she had survived, that is? You are retarded and insane. No, YOU are retarded and insane. :) All you are freaking out about is your fear, paranoia, and hatred for the idea of pedophilia. Yeah, I think a eight-year-old and a sixteen-year-old being lovers is gross because I am normal. While Shio is little, Satou is a mother. When Shio becomes enough to be an equal (probably around the 12yo range), then they could be a couple. That is disgusting. And I think most people would agree; mothers should not date their own children. No where in ANY of my posts did I say "SatouxShio is harmful to real life" Because I'm sure it's not. I just think it's yucky and creepy. And I am allowed to think that. |
ChiibiNov 4, 2019 4:35 PM
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Chiibi said: Your delusions. Sure it's not you wanting her to rape Shio? Clearly you didn't read anything i said about Satou's psychology, the inner workings of her mind, and things she learned and improved from her original trauma. I guess you don't know why she dated those guys... Guess what, she was looking for love, and she didn't know any better because her Aunt is crazy. She learned what love was from Shio, and that sex has nothing to do with love. So NO SHE WOULD NOT FUCK SHIO, PROBABLY EVER, EVEN WHEN LEGAL AGE. GenesisAria said: Ha, yeah right. Satou's had sex with LOTS of boys...what makes you think she won't rape Shio, if she had survived, that is?Many married people don't have sex Sex and love are two separate things, holy fucking revelation, mind blown right? ...Btw, i don't recall it ever even specifically saying she had actual sex with anyone, as in penetrated lost her virginity... I'd have to look for that next i watch. Also how would having sex with boys have anything to do with sex with a small girl? That's like saying mommy fucks dad, therefore she wants to fuck daughter too... It makes no sense. Chiibi said: Once again read:GenesisAria said: Yeah, I think a eight-year-old and a sixteen-year-old being lovers is gross because I am normal.All you are freaking out about is your fear, paranoia, and hatred for the idea of pedophilia. GenesisAria said: In most of human history, 8yo and 16yo WAS INDEED NORMAL. AND CHILDREN DEVELOP FASTER NOW. So there is no logic in this disconnect. Also anti-pedophilia is very modern. Every decade you go back in time, the less people gave a shit. There are parts of the world today where they look at you like you're insane for thinking you shouldn't let children be active and learning by the onset of puberty, because keeping them ignorant is harmful... Who are you to think you know better?yonaaofthedawn said: You clearly don't know facts.Agree though, a child literally can't consent, a child's frontal lobe (the decision making part of your brain) isn't fully developed yet meaning children this young don't know what they're actually doing. In a few years she might look back and realise she was taken advantage of, really sad how people encourage this kind of 'love'. A) Your understanding of what the Prefrontal Cortex does is very misinformed. It is NOT the decision-making part of the brain. It is a glorified memory centre and scenario simulation device. It allows you to recall and emulate (view) memories in detail, and it also allows you to fabricate artificial scenarios in which you can use to predict possible outcomes. This phenomenon has been extensively tested, and it has been shown that over-reliance on the simulation of events as a key factor in decision making more often leads to the WRONG choice, with a false sense of being right. In contrast, over and over it has been proven that instinctual decisions, based on gut feeling, are more often the better decisions overall. If anything this suggests that adults are WORSE at making decisions due to over-thinking. ...Oh yeah, and most of human history disagrees with this nonsensical notion of underdevelopment too. Especially seeing as due to our lifestyles and what we consume, children are physically developing sooner/younger now than pretty much ever before. You should do your research before making claims like this, as they are usually based on journalist propaganda to feed into some kind of campaign (which is exploiting children in a different way). B) Have you ever even talked to people who have been exploited as children? Somehow i doubt it. I have, many times, and the reality is drastically different from the media fear-mongering propaganda. Not saying that sexual exploitation is not a bad thing, but it's immensely disproportionately exaggerated (for the "Protect the Children" movement, which exploits and sabotages children all over the world). Regardless, as i've said over and over and over and over and over again. There was NOTHING sexual in this anime between Satou and Shio. NONE. Therefore, all of these arguments are irrelevant anyway. ps: a child still has to consent to plenty of non-sexual actions in their life. the more people (including parents) do things agaisnt the will of the child, the more they are able to be taken to court for criminal mistreatment of said child (and rightfully so, treating anyone like a slave or pet just because you decide they are inept is disgusting). pps: don't forget HSL is also fiction. Chiibi said: Prove it. Provide facts, logic, reasoning, proof. Ideology, emotions, etc, are irrelevant, that's just opinion.GenesisAria said: That is disgusting. And I think most people would agree; mothers should not date their own children.While Shio is little, Satou is a mother. When Shio becomes enough to be an equal (probably around the 12yo range), then they could be a couple. ps: that was my personal speculation, for all i know the author intended only a genuine mother-daughter relationship without dating. so the fact you are exacerbating that detail is evidence that you are emotionally unstable regarding the topic. |
GenesisAriaNov 4, 2019 4:46 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
Yeah, I have and I'm reasonable, compared to them. My attitude is "it might be gross but I don't think it's dangerous." Their attitude is "THROW THIS PEDO IN JAIL REEEEEEEEEEEEE" Regardless, as i've said over and over and over and over and over again. There was NOTHING sexual in this anime between Satou and Shio. NONE. Therefore, all of these arguments are irrelevant anyway. But the way the girls talk about each other like lovers is still very creepy. Prove it. ........you... you want me to prove to you "mothers shouldn't date their children"? You want me to PROVE to you "child grooming is morally corrupt"? ........I think only a shrink can help you at this point. I'm just at a loss here. for all i know the author intended only a genuine mother-daughter relationship without dating. so the fact you are exacerbating that detail is evidence that you are emotionally unstable regarding the topic. "Emotionally unstable" lol we think we know OH SO MUCH about some stranger online, do we? You want "Proof".....there are a couple of things: 1. The author draws Satou and Shio connected by a red thread. Red threads in Japanese mythology are for romantic partners ONLY. It indicates they are soulmates. 2. The kanji used to describe HSL's "love" is 恋. The definition of this kanji is "romantic/sexual love". So...........yeah, you are wrong about it being platonic. How does it feel to look like an ass? |
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Chiibi said: Yes, prove it. If you can't prove it then you should rethink your baseless morality. That's called having rational mind.Prove it. ........you...you want me to prove to you "mothers shouldn't date their children"? You want me to PROVE to you "child grooming is morally corrupt"? ........I think only a shrink can help you at this point. I'm just at a loss here. Not only do you have to prove it's a real problem, you ALSO have to prove ON TOP OW THAT that it is somehow a problem to tell a fictional story about it. Chiibi said: It's called psychoanalysis. It's not like you are particularly hard to read either, you are telegraphing everything.GenesisAria said: "Emotionally unstable" lol we think we know OH SO MUCH about some stranger online, do we?for all i know the author intended only a genuine mother-daughter relationship without dating. so the fact you are exacerbating that detail is evidence that you are emotionally unstable regarding the topic. Chiibi said: That's not what ai (恋) means lmao. Ai is the philosophical poetic principle of love as a grand idea. Koi means attraction/bonding, suki means like/infatuated. Ai does not imply sexual in any way shape or form. It's the highest form of love, unconditional, which means sex is irrelevant. Deeply bonded families that genuinely love eachother are also described with "ai". Anyone equating it so simple conditional romantic/sexual love is misusing it and degrading it. How does it feel to look like an ass? I'm pretty good with decoding asian languages fyi. I can go and break it down in detail if you want lol; addressing the radicals and strokes, even referring context.2. The kanji used to describe HSL's "love" is 恋. The definition of this kanji is "romantic/sexual love". So...........yeah, you are wrong about it being platonic. How does it feel to look like an ass? |
GenesisAriaNov 4, 2019 5:15 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: you ALSO have to prove ON TOP OW THAT that it is somehow a problem to tell a fictional story about it. ......um I DON'T think it's a "problem" to tell a fictional story about it. I just think it's "creepy". Tell any fictional story you want...but don't expect everyone to NOT criticize the author's/fanbase's taste, especially stories about very delicate or controversial matters like HSL. That's not what ai (恋) means lmao. You idiot. That's "KOI", not "ai". Koi is sexual/romantic love. I'm pretty good with decoding asian languages fyi. Lol you'd best study some MORE. Ai looks like this: 愛 Koi looks like this: 恋 ....dumbass... |
ChiibiNov 4, 2019 5:22 PM
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Chiibi said: You didn't provide simple distaste with it in reasonable rationale with fair address. You reacted and lashed out, at it and at others for defending it. You are welcome to opinions, but to push them on others, especially when they are delivering facts why you are mistaken, then you are fighting facts and logic with morals emotion and opinions, a battle which the illogical will always lose.GenesisAria said: ......um I DON'T think it's a "problem" to tell a fictional story about it. I just think it's "creepy". Tell any fictional story you want...but don't expect everyone to NOT criticize the author's/fanbase's taste, especially stories about very delicate or controversial matters like HSL.you ALSO have to prove ON TOP OW THAT that it is somehow a problem to tell a fictional story about it. I tell you there is factually no proven ethical reason why it should be creepy. Take it or leave it. If you disagree and think there is facts contrary, then prove it. Leaving it makes you irrational (so does fighting it with no basis), if you want to be irrational i can't stop you, but don't make it my problem too. Chiibi said: You know what a sensible rational person does? Points out an error and says "oh you were talking about the wrong thing"... and i go oops that was dumb of me, my bad, i wasn't looking close enough at the kanji because it's a little blotch on my screen. You know what an irrational emotional egotistical person does? Use that as an opportunity to berate the other to feel good about themselves. You spat insults for no reason. I will once reaffirm that my definition of Ai was indeed accurate and i do know it well, and i can and have disassembled radicals and strokes, and would have noticed had i looked.GenesisAria said: You idiot. That's "KOI", not "ai". Koi is sexual/romantic love.That's not what ai (恋) means lmao. GenesisAria said: Lol you'd best study some MORE.I'm pretty good with decoding asian languages fyi. Ai looks like this: 愛 Koi looks like this: 恋 ....dumbass... With that bullshit out of the way i'll have to request you provide a [source] for your claim. Also Koi means infatuation or fondness, koi is "coming together" and does also not imply sexual anything (unless context is applied). Sinographic languages don't have hard definitions for their words, and are highly confined to subjective interpretation of them based on their core meanings/principles which translate differently into western languages depending on context. Better to know how the language works than just be someone who googles quick definitions. |
GenesisAriaNov 4, 2019 9:32 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: You know what a sensible rational person does? You call me "retarded and insane" and expect me to be polite to you when you f*ck up? Lol, that's not how I roll. Sorry. You spat insults for no reason. Said the person who's been spatting insults for several posts now? especially when they are delivering facts why you are mistaken Lol what "facts" did you deliver? You're only shoving YOUR opinion onto ME. The hypocrisy is hilarious. With that bullshit out of the way i'll have to request you provide a [source] for your claim. It's from an ad covering my copy of Kami Yome. But how about this; HSL is classified as "yuri" On its official page. In English AND Japanese. So explain that. A relationship can't be "platonic AND yuri" at the same time. Yuri is lesbian love. ALSO You totally ignored my point that "lips-to-lips kissing is only for LOVERS IN JAPAN." I don't care if your family thinks it's totally normal; in the world of HSL, which takes place in Japan, it's NOT normal at all. TOKYO There are all kinds of kissing all over the world, but traditionally, in Japan there has only been two kinds and they are the romantic kissing done by couples or kissing babies. Public displays of affection have always been frowned upon, and still generally are: a kiss on the lips is serious business. Taken from here: https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/the-state-of-kissing-in-japan koi is "coming together" and does also not imply sexual anything Actually it does. Better to know how the language works than just be someone who googles quick definitions. Bitch, I took four years of Japanese in high school from a professional teacher, I study it nonstop, I read RAW manga and light novels, I'm about the level of a junior high student when it comes to kanji. |
ChiibiNov 4, 2019 10:13 PM
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Chiibi said: I delivered many scientific facts and pointed them to you repeatedly over and over. It's not my fault you chose to ignore them.GenesisAria said: Lol what "facts" did you deliver? You're only shoving YOUR opinion onto ME. The hypocrisy is hilarious.especially when they are delivering facts why you are mistaken Chiibi said: Yuri means lily, which is POETIC AND SYMBOLIC icon of LESBIANISM. That is girls loving girls. Once again, love =/= sex. This also refers to the "lesbianism" that children go through that in japan is accepted as a phase, if they grow out of it.GenesisAria said: It's from an ad covering my copy of Kami Yome. But how about this; HSL is classified as "yuri"With that bullshit out of the way i'll have to request you provide a [source] for your claim. On its official page. In English AND Japanese. So explain that. A relationship can't be "platonic AND yuri" at the same time. Yuri is lesbian love. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_(genre)#Thematic_history Chiibi said: Clearly you don't understand how japanese media works. Also i've literally seen japanese students kissing eachother for fun. Kissing same sex! They do it all the fucking time with the pocky game and for dares and other fun. There's even vine compilations of it. You should learn about the real japan in japan by rational people that live there (especially students because outsiders don't get to know what ahppens inside schools otherwise), not random journal articles that usually only reflect the opinion of the writer. Japanese articles are more chaotic and inconsistent than western ones, and are usually highly opinionated and rarely are researched.You totally ignored my point that "lips-to-lips kissing is only for LOVERS IN JAPAN." I don't care if your family thinks it's totally normal; in the world of HSL, which takes place in Japan, it's NOT normal at all. TOKYO There are all kinds of kissing all over the world, but traditionally, in Japan there has only been two kinds and they are the romantic kissing done by couples or kissing babies. Public displays of affection have always been frowned upon, and still generally are: a kiss on the lips is serious business. Taken from here: https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/the-state-of-kissing-in-japan You are finding any and every excuse to be triggered, and that's called being a SJW. You also try to sidestep every time you are proven wrong with some attempt to divert attention or just refuse to acknowledge it, and it's not like i'm not paying attention to what is happening. Chiibi said: Actually it doesn't. You should look at all the ways the kanji is used.GenesisAria said: Actually it does.]koi is "coming together" and does also not imply sexual anything wiktionary said: Nowhere in any of this is sex or anything similar implied; and is all constructed by professionals and experts internally verified and consistent. Would you like more or are we done here? I'm a little rusty with the meanings of individual strokes, but i've been down that road too for further detail and accuracy, translating ancient texts. You are way out of your league child. Hope you learned a thing or two.恋 said: Japanese Kanji 恋 (common “Jōyō” kanji, shinjitai kanji, kyūjitai form 戀)
Readings Go-on: れん (ren, Jōyō) Kan-on: れん (ren, Jōyō) Kun: こい (koi, 恋, Jōyō)←こひ (kofi, historical); こいしい (koishii, 恋しい, Jōyō)←こひしい (kofisii, historical); こう (kou, 恋う, Jōyō)←こふ (kofu, historical) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%81%8B#Japanese ------------Contructed from radicals: 亦 meaning also, too, likewise, and similar 心 meaning heart, mind, soul, ideas The 2 radicals in tandem give a meaning of shared heart/soul. 戀 said: Kanji 戀 (uncommon “Hyōgai” kanji, kyūjitai kanji, shinjitai form 恋)
Readings Go-on: れん (ren) Kan-on: れん (ren) Kun: こい (koi, 戀)←こひ (kofi, historical); こいしい (koishii, 戀しい)←こひしい (kofisii, historical); こう (kou, 戀う)←こふ (kofu, historical) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%88%80#Japanese ------------ Contructed from radicals: 䜌 (difficult one, needs further deconstruction) — 糹 meaning thread or silk (this often refers to the idea of being) — 言 meaning to say, speak, write, declare, as in an opinion or view — 糹 again to reflect 2 things correlating via the central concept 心 meaning heart, mind, soul, ideas The radicals together identify the concept which likely turned into the japanese "red string of fate" which is the original chineze hanzi which refers to 2 "strings" coming together by a "word", referring to the below radical which identifies those "strings" as heart/soul. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_terms_spelled_with_恋_read_as_こい https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_terms_spelled_with_戀 (yes the links are derped cuz mal won't let me fix them, copy and paste them.) Chiibi said: Lmao. Then you go to japan and find out everything you learned is wrong, because nobody uses japanese that way (and if they do, they are mistaken). By the sounds of it you and/or your teacher are heavily biased and incorrect. Also, they basically never teach you radicals properly if at all, thus you get skewed understandings of the kanji.GenesisAria said: Bitch, I took four years of Japanese in high school from a professional teacher, I study it nonstop, I read RAW manga and light novels, I'm about the level of a junior high student when it comes to kanji.Better to know how the language works than just be someone who googles quick definitions. By the way, i did request you to provide a source where it uses koi to describe it in the first place (which you have not provided)... You are a funny little one. I have been able to precisely dismantle every one of your arguments with logic, facts, and appropriate reasoning at every turn with little difficulty, and all you wish to do is cause a stink. Please stop arguing unless you have something productive to say, thank you. Until then, i have nothing more to say to you. |
GenesisAriaNov 5, 2019 4:53 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: By the way, i did request you to provide a source where it uses koi to describe it in the first place (which you have not provided)... Scanning the manga cover is way too much of a pain in the ass just to prove a point. :/ Also i've literally seen japanese students kissing eachother for fun. But Satou and Shio aren't DOING it "for fun". They do it because they have this unhealthy illusion that they're "in love" and "this is what lovers do". Who cares if Shio's the one to initiate, Satou is older and any mentally healthy teenager SHOULD be uncomfortable with it...but since she isn't and doesn't STOP her from doing it, she's basically a pedophile and she should be locked up, never mind all the OTHER crimes she's committed. Bitch is mental. "Satou isn't insane" is the funniest thing you've said in this shitfest of a debate. Why are you even USING "students"? We're talking about PARENTS, here. Japanese parents STILL don't kiss their little kids on the lips. They think it's wrong because of course it is. I have been able to precisely dismantle every one of your arguments with logic, facts, and appropriate reasoning at every turn with little difficulty Yeah, keep on telling yourself that. I can tell you're one of those people who just loves to hear themselves talk and talk and talk. In most of human history, 8yo and 16yo WAS INDEED NORMAL. AND CHILDREN DEVELOP FASTER NOW. So there is no logic in this disconnect. Also anti-pedophilia is very modern. You know...you're starting to frighten me. It's like you believe this is OKAY outside of fiction. Please don't have children; I'm pretty sure they would end up being raped by some pervert since you think "eight-year-olds can consent". |
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Chiibi said: If i have children they are going to be smart enough and wise enough to be incapable of being raped because they will be able to sense the bad and be aware of it and know how to avoid it. They will be able to understand love enough and have enough intelligence to make reasonably rational decisions most of the time (not any less than any teenager or adult who usually make many bad decisions). Unlike parents who lock children away, pretend sex etc doesn't exist, then when some guy tricks them with conversation or rewards, they don't know any better and get raped, because they're ignorant because nobody taught them any better.You know...you're starting to frighten me. It's like you believe this is OKAY outside of fiction. Please don't have children; I'm pretty sure they would end up being raped by some pervert since you think "eight-year-olds can consent". You are the one that should never have children, because they will be weak and vulnerable and filled with lies. I don't particularly like typing, i dislike my voice and i hate having to put ridiculous amounts of effort in to just do something as simple as help someone and prevent poor innocent bystanders from absorbing bs. And yeah, look at the post above yours, i proved you wrong on all the kanji, hardcore, as well as many other things (too bad you probably didn't read it all lololol). Stop quoting me, and keep the sjw cancer out of MAL. If MAL thought this series was inexcusable they wouldn't even have it here. It's art, it's freedom of expression, and hate speech/harassment of others is not tolerated on this site. Have a nice day. edit: someone else's intellectualized view |
GenesisAriaNov 18, 2019 1:27 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| a happy ending for both the viewer and Satou I guess |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| Good show, I can only find the story interesting but not the characters, it is sad that almost all of them are not in the right mind and it is what I don't like in the show. Didn't like the ending too much because on what happened to Shio, and ofcourse on Shio's brother and Shoko which their works for both Satou and Shio were wasted. |
| I was going to laugh if they landed on a net and lived with Satou being arrested. But she's gone, except in Shio's heart. Poor girl. Excellent show. |
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| I disagree with everyone here thinking that Shio is innocent. I sympathized with her situation and circumstances however the moment she started condoning murder and violence proves she's no longer the sweet little angel people view her to be. Call it a product of her environment or even an end result of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME in the end she became an extension of someone's sociopathic personality. 5/10 For being bearable inspite of the poor writing and one dimensional characters. |
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| What kind of bullshit ending was that? Out of fricking nowhere, was such a good lead up in the previous 11 episodes, only to turn 180 like that lol... "Actually, let's just kill ourselves". "Yeah, good idea". |
Janethan23 said: I disagree with everyone here thinking that Shio is innocent. I sympathized with her situation and circumstances however the moment she started condoning murder and violence proves she's no longer the sweet little angel people view her to be. Call it a product of her environment or even an end result of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME in the end she became an extension of someone's sociopathic personality. 5/10 For being bearable inspite of the poor writing and one dimensional characters. I think is because she's just 6-7 years old...all along this show she doens't really understand what is happening (as she is just a child) for example, the kidnap, the truly meaning of a marry, murdering for love. Lets keep in mind that she is not old enough for her own sexual discernment in her puberty. GakutoDeathGlare said: What kind of bullshit ending was that? Out of fricking nowhere, was such a good lead up in the previous 11 episodes, only to turn 180 like that lol... "Actually, let's just kill ourselves". "Yeah, good idea". I reccomend to you to watch the first minute of EP1 again...from the beggining it was clear that they were launching themselves from the top of a building. Personally I have mixed feelings with this anime, I must say that I REALLY wanted to watch Shoko in prison, but after thinking for a while about the finale, maybe it is not so bad: The teacher was captured (although no idea with what evidence), Shio survived and could receive treatment in the future to understand what really happened and to learn that what she lived was not love, her brother survived too and ¿her mother wasn't in prison for killing her father? (maybe that's good?). At the and, Happy Sugar Life was an awful story for me to watch (specially for that ending) and Im not really sure on how to score it... |
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CamiloJTM said: I remembered them at the start of episode one, it's how they got there that I'm calling BS on. The so called "journey" to suicide. There was nothing in the eleven episodes that led up to that moment that suggested they would off themselves. Pathetic "original" ending. Janethan23 said: I disagree with everyone here thinking that Shio is innocent. I sympathized with her situation and circumstances however the moment she started condoning murder and violence proves she's no longer the sweet little angel people view her to be. Call it a product of her environment or even an end result of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME in the end she became an extension of someone's sociopathic personality. 5/10 For being bearable inspite of the poor writing and one dimensional characters. I think is because she's just 6-7 years old...all along this show she doens't really understand what is happening (as she is just a child) for example, the kidnap, the truly meaning of a marry, murdering for love. Lets keep in mind that she is not old enough for her own sexual discernment in her puberty. GakutoDeathGlare said: What kind of bullshit ending was that? Out of fricking nowhere, was such a good lead up in the previous 11 episodes, only to turn 180 like that lol... "Actually, let's just kill ourselves". "Yeah, good idea". I reccomend to you to watch the first minute of EP1 again...from the beggining it was clear that they were launching themselves from the top of a building. Personally I have mixed feelings with this anime, I must say that I REALLY wanted to watch Shoko in prison, but after thinking for a while about the finale, maybe it is not so bad: The teacher was captured (although no idea with what evidence), Shio survived and could receive treatment in the future to understand what really happened and to learn that what she lived was not love, her brother survived too and ¿her mother wasn't in prison for killing her father? (maybe that's good?). At the and, Happy Sugar Life was an awful story for me to watch (specially for that ending) and Im not really sure on how to score it... |
GakutoDeathGlare said: ...I remembered them at the start of episode one, it's how they got there that I'm calling BS on. The so called "journey" to suicide. There was nothing in the eleven episodes that led up to that moment that suggested they would off themselves. Pathetic "original" ending. That is as well the manga ending, as you can see Here |
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| Everything about this story was perfect, except for several Diabolus ex Machina in the final episodes that could have been easily avoided. Seriously made me angry and made me think that author just wanted to end it quickly with forced bad/bittersweet end. |
| Am I the only one who really, really, really wanted to see Satou brought to justice? I had hoped they'd land in a net just in the nick of time. Satou's ability to have coherent thoughts means that she wasn't insane. Many times it seemed like she was, because of her past with her aunt, but she was just a psychopath. She wasn't delusional or insane, she was clever and could devise elaborate plans to reach her goals. Satou was the main character, yes, but she's also one of the cruellest and evil protagonists I've ever seen in an anime. The fact that she kept getting away with murder, drew me to a point where I wished she would get therapy while going to jail for a looong time. Besides, if Shio doesn't get therapy, she'll end up the same, and the cycle continues. |
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DLDrillNB said: Am I the only one who really, really, really wanted to see Satou brought to justice? Just read my first 12/04 post...LOL |
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| Well, this entire series was a bloody torrent of emotions. the ending was extremely extremely dark. Like, there wasn't a single spot of light anywhere to be found. My hope was that in the ending the brothers would reunite and Satou would get her comeuppance without Shio learning about it. Still, I can't criticize the ending we got, as it fit this series where not a single person was not horribly twisted in some way (other than one, and she got killed). This series was very effective at depressing the viewer, that is for sure. my only critique was that, since the brother had the photo for a while, why didn't he view the apartment number in it from the beginning and go there? that part is the only part that seemed like a plothole to me. Regardless, this anime was a unique and enthralling experience for sure, and gets a 9/10 from me. |
| Anime was pretty good in first half and scenario worked well until the only one reasonable character was killed unreasonably. And then from nowhere we have fast paced broken ending just like author got fired and killed his own scenario without time to think. At first Shio is so naive and stupid that can't understand how to switch on TV or vacuum cleaner but then suddenly she talked about deaths, murders and reincarnation. Also it's pretty annoying that Shio didn't understand that Sato is like her mother since they both were obsessed with control of her life and even movements. I really see it like author just thrown through a window his own ideas because contract was ended earlier than he thought. |
| Fuck knows what happens to Shio after the events of the show but atleast the psycho is dead and that creepy aunt is put to jail. Feel bad for Asahi, the girl that loved her is dead and also her sister is becoming the next Satou. I feel like this is severely underrated on MAL yes its edgy but its a pretty good show despite its biggest flaw that is the backstory of the Kobe family which I found stupid until now. 8/10 succesfully kept me disgusted, uneasy, and uncomfortable the whole time but also entertained which makes it hard for me to drop the show. Definitely one of my favorites now. |
leevMay 31, 2020 12:41 PM
| Who in the art direction department thought that mindlessly putting blur and chromatic aberration over all scenes was a good idea? It was awful. |
| And things end in the most dramatic way possible. Not sure how I feel about Shio surviving, but it looks like she'll have a suitably screwed-up future. "When you stare long into the happy sugar abyss, the happy sugar abyss stares back into you." --- weeb Nietzsche, probably |
| I'm glad Satou died, and completely fine with her dying in quickly and relatively painlessly. I see no need for us to wish torture on people in this life, even if they've done horrible things. I'm perfectly fine leaving any such punishment in the hands of God. I sure hope someone in the hospital realizes how psychologically damaged Shio is and makes certain she sees a psychologist. Same for Taiyo. I bet Auntie and Sensei will get along very well in prison... I wish they explained why Asahi didn't go to Satou's apartment on his own, since he apparently had her apartment number via the photo. Maybe he needed Taiyo to figure out where the apartment building was? It is also possible he was using Taiyo as a canary to figure out just how dangerous Satou was. It could also just be a gaping plot hole. Overall, this was a great dark drama. Characters were consistent throughout the show, and we got an ending that actually committed itself properly to the tragic and disturbing nature of the content. Just because is wasn't a feel-good show doesn't mean it wasn't a masterpiece! |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Kinda dissapointed because they did'nt put Shio'mom background, her mom is a deluosinal to have a prince like in the shoujo manga's. But still it's good though, I like the manga more than the anime. |
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