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Jan 13, 2022 9:39 PM

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Karote02 said:
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Honestly haven't looked at all the roles I just assumed there was a decent pool of below-average roles so it's not like I'm claiming
If it's so obvious tell me who I am, how about that for a start


Miller, is it not?
What other role would be scummy as hell to claim late and would get counterclaimed (by scum)?

Karote actually trying to gamesolve via roles. (something I don't enjoy doing).

Take notes people.
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Jan 13, 2022 9:41 PM

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Crossbell said:
im certainly reading and posting my reads

just not doing anything more than that (ie, grappling with the iso function, or going back pages)

trying to think if you getting annoyed at this is more indicative of town you or scum you

scum you is probably a little more binary and doesn't bother to nitpick this or potentially antagonize me?


Tell me about Scarlet. She a lurker? Does she often post about being busy? And do you think she does this so she has an easy breezy excuse to be useless?

Also why do you think we are all not trying to lynch Carrot?
Jan 13, 2022 9:42 PM

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Crossbell said:
cool, locking in that doughkey town read

sad to see lucian roll scum in this one though

Ayy woah, I ain't even caught up yet.

I'm just gettin started.
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Jan 13, 2022 9:47 PM

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I like making big dumb lists detailing my thoughts on every player along with what I believe their faction is- but I know Lucian also likes doing that so I would like to hold off on mine until atleast he gives some general thoughts on our lovely cast.

Curious to see if he dislikes Abu as much as I do.
Jan 13, 2022 9:50 PM

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Mishukax said:
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Miller, is it not?
What other role would be scummy as hell to claim late and would get counterclaimed (by scum)?

Ok yeah it is

Shinichi, I wanted karote to say it first you goofball

didn't want to claim for reasons stated but I guess it's an okay move to not waste cop on me
And I don't know, actually I don't know what scum can even claim in the endgame, they're gonna have to counter and stuff, but when I got my role my only thought was "if I claim this I'll look suspicious, therefore hard mode" I never played this role in hindsight it might actually be easy mode if you guys entertain the idea of me being clear town

Where's the CC? >.>
It's not coming is it.

I feel kinda dumb and rusty.

Let me try again.
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Jan 13, 2022 9:50 PM

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yurkin said:
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doesn't a massclaim just snap break this game in half btw
mmmm kinda tricky idk, eventually massclaim is bound to happen but iirc pyro had some anti massclaim mechanics (but I don't recall well so)


Gherkin, how long have you been in MS? And how many games have you played where Pyro was the host? can you elaborate on these 'anti massclaim mechanics' to the best of your ability?
Jan 13, 2022 10:03 PM

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Yo I actually know all the mafia, this shit is EEEEEZZZZZZZZZ
Jan 13, 2022 10:05 PM

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Doughkey said:
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im certainly reading and posting my reads

just not doing anything more than that (ie, grappling with the iso function, or going back pages)

trying to think if you getting annoyed at this is more indicative of town you or scum you

scum you is probably a little more binary and doesn't bother to nitpick this or potentially antagonize me?


Tell me about Scarlet. She a lurker? Does she often post about being busy? And do you think she does this so she has an easy breezy excuse to be useless?

Also why do you think we are all not trying to lynch Carrot?
think scarlet is relatively readable when she posts more

you can interpret her checking in post as wolfy, i don't think it's especially alignment-indicative.

from a game health perspective i don't really like pushing people when they say they are busy and multitabling as well

don't really think karote is aligned with lucian and i think lucian is quite likely to be a wolf, so
Jan 13, 2022 10:15 PM

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So my reads took a big shift in the last minute because the bad vibes I was getting dissipated when Mishu cleared himself. That said I think I still lean town on Karote, but that's a tough rock to base my reads around, but it's one I'll cling to.

Yurkin is trying to do early gamesolving in which is typical of town Yurkin. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453817 #56 says a lot in very little. General stuff, but Yurkin doing footwork D1 is always a good sign iirc.

I go skiing with my mates, miss being active, and come back to crossbell's #80 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453941 which I have some questions about.

What did Shin do that was AI to you? The Mishu read is a given now, but what do you see in Shinichi? Other than maybe 32 about the role timing thing.

And the biggest question of all, why am I your top scumread? Is it because of lack of activity? Or something different? I wanna hear your thoughts leading up to this page 2 post when I made only 1 post. Yeah it was a pre-meditated vote, something I don't usually do, how did it rub you the wrong way?
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Jan 13, 2022 10:19 PM

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Crossbell said:
Doughkey said:


Tell me about Scarlet. She a lurker? Does she often post about being busy? And do you think she does this so she has an easy breezy excuse to be useless?

Also why do you think we are all not trying to lynch Carrot?
think scarlet is relatively readable when she posts more

you can interpret her checking in post as wolfy, i don't think it's especially alignment-indicative.

from a game health perspective i don't really like pushing people when they say they are busy and multitabling as well

don't really think karote is aligned with lucian and i think lucian is quite likely to be a wolf, so


Everything on Scarlet noted.

I was putting together my notes and was actually really hung up on you thinking Lucian and Carrot werent together. You said that on page 2, after they only shared a couple messages, none of which seemed impactful in the slightest.

Am I missing something? It seems like a stretch.
Jan 13, 2022 10:35 PM

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if lucian/karote are wolves together, i don't see lucian going for a meta-based "rvs" vote on his scumbuddy since i think lucian would probably run that by karote in wolfchat and i think it's just kind of far fetched

kinda weak but that was what i was thinking at the time
Jan 13, 2022 10:42 PM

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man i had to iso to respond to lucian's questions. rip

lucian:

1. shinichi read is mostly gut, but i feel like shin as wolf would feel some pressure to sort of get himself townread or something and right now he's just playing like what i would expect out of him - lackadaisical and relaxed

2. i'm wolfreading you specifically because you're trying too hard. you're very gung-ho to start and approach the game in a conventional manner, in a way that i find very often comes from wolves that play by the book. i know this because i am one of those players
Jan 13, 2022 10:43 PM

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Crossbell said:
if lucian/karote are wolves together, i don't see lucian going for a meta-based "rvs" vote on his scumbuddy since i think lucian would probably run that by karote in wolfchat and i think it's just kind of far fetched

kinda weak but that was what i was thinking at the time

Yeah but this doesn't really answer my question. What made you think I was wolf in the first place?
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Jan 13, 2022 10:43 PM

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Ok ninja'd. A classic.
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Jan 13, 2022 10:45 PM

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i feel like you as town would be way more relaxed and natural, and your early posts feel like you have some compulsion to get the game going, which often comes from scum who think that they need a strong early impression
Jan 13, 2022 10:45 PM

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Crossbell said:
if lucian/karote are wolves together, i don't see lucian going for a meta-based "rvs" vote on his scumbuddy since i think lucian would probably run that by karote in wolfchat and i think it's just kind of far fetched

kinda weak but that was what i was thinking at the time


Interesting take, but that reasoning seems kind of cap.

A vote that early on in a game like this obviously means nothing, I couldn't imagine a person who WOULD go out of their way to say anything about it in mafia club.

To me it seemed like an easy enough way to cause a little fabricated discourse to separate the two of them that has no real consequence.

Not only is it weak, it seems backwards.
Jan 13, 2022 10:50 PM

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i can buy that lucian wanting to make that vote on karote before he joined the game

but i feel like he'd get some hesitation on doing it if he randed W and saw that karote was part of his team

idk

it is weak

Jan 13, 2022 10:52 PM

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town:

doughkey
mishukax

shinichi

wolf:

lucianroy
lambtron

best part of this game is that feedback will be instantaneous and non-punishing with the claims
Jan 13, 2022 10:54 PM

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Crossbell said:
man i had to iso to respond to lucian's questions. rip

lucian:

1. shinichi read is mostly gut, but i feel like shin as wolf would feel some pressure to sort of get himself townread or something and right now he's just playing like what i would expect out of him - lackadaisical and relaxed

2. i'm wolfreading you specifically because you're trying too hard. you're very gung-ho to start and approach the game in a conventional manner, in a way that i find very often comes from wolves that play by the book. i know this because i am one of those players

Ok, I could see shin as wolf doing the gung-ho thing, and posts don't strike me as particularly towny, but if that's the meta you have on him then that's your meta. But guess what, the gung-ho thing D1 is actually a town!Lucian classic imho. I won't ask you to meta me, but I go hard on day 1s always. I need to setup that framework for my reads. I'm a tryhard, always have been. Can't escape it.

Work with me on literally any other scumread you have.
Or better yet, I'll find my own. In four pages nonetheless, only on just finished page 2.
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Jan 13, 2022 10:55 PM

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i'm low efforting this game so i won't be reading anyone's meta

my other wolfread is lamb, for actually similar reasons as to why i'm wolfreading you
Jan 13, 2022 10:56 PM

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also lul @ meta reads when the meta basis are games from 3-6 years ago

im taking everything at face value this game
Jan 13, 2022 10:59 PM

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Crossbell said:
i'm low efforting this game so i won't be reading anyone's meta

my other wolfread is lamb, for actually similar reasons as to why i'm wolfreading you


Im getting a tally of how many times you say you aren't trying and i'm about to vomit.
Jan 13, 2022 11:00 PM

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im retired
Jan 13, 2022 11:01 PM

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Lambtron said:
Gwendolly said:
Actually my favourite character is the camera guy from the Cell tournaments, I take everything back.


Your not actually back peddling on soft breadcrumbing earlier than the majority of the roster can even laugh at it, right?

Gwendolly said:


Now that's just rude.


Fluff on fluff, cheers.


Though earlier than the other 2, this one is almost worth addressing....

Gwendolly said:


Chad please..


Though I agree on "Chad please"
Which part do you want to pick at here.... His approach as the game eventually moves into anything beyond D1 and early game or just the RVS?


Let's just say I have multiple favourite Characters :3

And to answer your last question: YES!
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Jan 13, 2022 11:01 PM

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this is how i will be playing this game

if you do not like it, feel free to lunch me

Jan 13, 2022 11:02 PM

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@AlbertinoDias that VC is fire btw good job!
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Jan 13, 2022 11:05 PM

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osieorb18 said:
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I'm affecting other people already


Do you mean infecting?


I see what you did there. But it's too cold to be fishing out here right now smh
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Jan 13, 2022 11:09 PM

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osieorb18 said:
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I don't like you questioning me, it means I have to turn on my brain. But generally said it's always the best to immediately claim Miller first? I mean if you're worried a Mafia would counterclaim you or do it before you, they would just risk getting vig shot in this open setup


Scummy post


Says the one who announced they're going to be low-efforting. Like seriously we all know we are playing this for funsies. So what's your gain here? Other than people not taking you seriously and excuse your incompetent play. Another suspect!
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Jan 13, 2022 11:09 PM

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Crossbell said:
i'm low efforting this game so i won't be reading anyone's meta


Crossbell said:
also lul @ meta reads when the meta basis are games from 3-6 years ago

im taking everything at face value this game


"scum you is probably a little more binary and doesn't bother to nitpick this or potentially antagonize me?"

"think scarlet is relatively readable when she posts more"

"i feel like shin as wolf would feel some pressure to sort of get himself townread or something and right now he's just playing like what i would expect out of him - lackadaisical and relaxed"

"i feel like you as town would be way more relaxed and natural"

"idk how to read lucian, i just thought his first two posts were wolfy lol its been legit years since i've played with him"

Jan 13, 2022 11:11 PM

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Crossbell said:
this is how i will be playing this game

if you do not like it, feel free to lunch me



lynch: Crossbell
Jan 13, 2022 11:13 PM

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Doughkey said:
Yo I actually know all the mafia, this shit is EEEEEZZZZZZZZZ


Should I take the bait and say duuuh because you're probably in it?! Nah I won't, I am actually getting good vibes from you. Based off your first post I thought you will be memeing and fluffing the whole game and I'm like oh no here we go again. But you're actually giving some input and asking meaningful questions. I am pleasantly surprised.
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Jan 13, 2022 11:15 PM

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Crossbell is pretty close to just town here, anyways back to memeing
y'all can vote Gwen, I haven't read anymore of lucians posts, so im not going to wing if his posts changes anything, still agree with Cross' assessment of his first post
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i'm mostly working off of memory here wrt what i know of the players

i'm not going to meta dive old games and stuff

Doughkey said:
Crossbell said:
this is how i will be playing this game

if you do not like it, feel free to lunch me



lynch: Crossbell
good idea

unvote
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Jan 13, 2022 11:15 PM

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Crossbell said:
i'm low efforting this game so i won't be reading anyone's meta

my other wolfread is lamb, for actually similar reasons as to why i'm wolfreading you


If I get a dollar for everyone saying they're low efforting this game.....



I'd still be poor :(

edit: fixed broken quote
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Jan 13, 2022 11:16 PM

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_Wisp said:
Crossbell is pretty close to just town here, anyways back to memeing
y'all can vote Gwen, I haven't read anymore of lucians posts, so im not going to wing if his posts changes anything, still agree with Cross' assessment of his first post


I dare you to give me any reason as to why Cross is town.
Jan 13, 2022 11:18 PM

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Gwendolly said:
Doughkey said:
Yo I actually know all the mafia, this shit is EEEEEZZZZZZZZZ


Should I take the bait and say duuuh because you're probably in it?! Nah I won't, I am actually getting good vibes from you. Based off your first post I thought you will be memeing and fluffing the whole game and I'm like oh no here we go again. But you're actually giving some input and asking meaningful questions. I am pleasantly surprised.


Oioioi, we're all memes, no fluff here.

You want fluff go ask Osie to get his head out of his ass for 5 seconds to actually make a post.

I got 5 bucks saying it also won't be worth half a shit.
Jan 13, 2022 11:31 PM

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@LucianRoy Are you posting a big list of reads tonight? Im holding onto mine but I want to play some monhun before I pass out.
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LucianRoy said:
So my reads took a big shift in the last minute because the bad vibes I was getting dissipated when Mishu cleared himself. That said I think I still lean town on Karote, but that's a tough rock to base my reads around, but it's one I'll cling to.

Yurkin is trying to do early gamesolving in which is typical of town Yurkin. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453817 #56 says a lot in very little. General stuff, but Yurkin doing footwork D1 is always a good sign iirc.

I go skiing with my mates, miss being active, and come back to crossbell's #80 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453941 which I have some questions about.

What did Shin do that was AI to you? The Mishu read is a given now, but what do you see in Shinichi? Other than maybe 32 about the role timing thing.

And the biggest question of all, why am I your top scumread? Is it because of lack of activity? Or something different? I wanna hear your thoughts leading up to this page 2 post when I made only 1 post. Yeah it was a pre-meditated vote, something I don't usually do, how did it rub you the wrong way?


My paranoid ass ain't clicking on links even when it says myanimelist.. Especially after these hacker incidents. Please just quote the shit in future
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Gwendolly said:
LucianRoy said:
So my reads took a big shift in the last minute because the bad vibes I was getting dissipated when Mishu cleared himself. That said I think I still lean town on Karote, but that's a tough rock to base my reads around, but it's one I'll cling to.

Yurkin is trying to do early gamesolving in which is typical of town Yurkin. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453817 #56 says a lot in very little. General stuff, but Yurkin doing footwork D1 is always a good sign iirc.

I go skiing with my mates, miss being active, and come back to crossbell's #80 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453941 which I have some questions about.

What did Shin do that was AI to you? The Mishu read is a given now, but what do you see in Shinichi? Other than maybe 32 about the role timing thing.

And the biggest question of all, why am I your top scumread? Is it because of lack of activity? Or something different? I wanna hear your thoughts leading up to this page 2 post when I made only 1 post. Yeah it was a pre-meditated vote, something I don't usually do, how did it rub you the wrong way?


My paranoid ass ain't clicking on links even when it says myanimelist.. Especially after these hacker incidents. Please just quote the shit in future


I can be your own personal cyber security agent.

I can confirm all of lucians links actually send you to porn sites or rick rolls.

Conclusion: Safe.
Jan 13, 2022 11:43 PM

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I mean why is he a wolf? i think his thoughts have been pretty fluid, which is pretty common to town!Cross, and his first vote wasn't god awful
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Doughkey said:
@LucianRoy Are you posting a big list of reads tonight? Im holding onto mine but I want to play some monhun before I pass out.


Working on a multi quote of things that pinged me either way. Didn't think I had to put in this much footwork D1 but I'm determined to derail this train on me because it will mess up EoD.
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Crossbell said:
im retired
lmao the goat haha
blinddate
she was never awake
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never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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_Wisp said:
I mean why is he a wolf? i think his thoughts have been pretty fluid, which is pretty common to town!Cross, and his first vote wasn't god awful


Pulling from my notes

21. crossbell - first to mention the elephant in the room that is mass claiming, and being opposed to it, I currently think the fixation on mass claiming and saying they wouldnt be a part of it to dissuade people is rather scum. Said Lucian/carrot were not on the same team based off the smallest interaction I have ever seen, weird jump. Abu asks about Crossbells faction claim and Crossbell says he is shooting from the hip, effectively making any pressure he was attempting to put in weightless. Cross mentions he wont care about the game regardless of what role he lands. Sounds like a cop out to be a lazy scum. Cross mentions hes retired, again trying to play it off like he doesnt care about the game. Says Mishu/abu is not aligned, but mishu already claimed miller. "I am clearly ~worried~ about a massclaim". Cross calls out Osie thinking Lamb is town, +1. Don't like Crossbell raising my banner as town so much and soft supporting Lucian lynch who is openly my biggest scum read, seems patronizing. Clearly contradictory with what activity he does and what he says he is/will be doing. Trying to guise himself as being a cute little log, but evidence shows the opposite.
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Gwendolly said:
My paranoid ass ain't clicking on links even when it says myanimelist.. Especially after these hacker incidents. Please just quote the shit in future


Fr? You want a Zebra post? I'll have to redo a bunch of work, but I can do it fast. Even if it's nearing 3 am and I gotta get up early to do stuff tomorrow. I'm laser focused on this game rn.

All nighter? Full reset? Fuck it let's go.
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LucianRoy said:
Doughkey said:
@LucianRoy Are you posting a big list of reads tonight? Im holding onto mine but I want to play some monhun before I pass out.


Working on a multi quote of things that pinged me either way. Didn't think I had to put in this much footwork D1 but I'm determined to derail this train on me because it will mess up EoD.


48 hour dayphase. Our goldfish brains wont even remember we were sus of you come the AM. Like I personally forgot anyone other than Crossbell exists.

Did you remember Wisp was in this game?

I certainly didn't until he meandered his way onto this page.
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LucianRoy said:
Doughkey said:
@LucianRoy Are you posting a big list of reads tonight? Im holding onto mine but I want to play some monhun before I pass out.


Working on a multi quote of things that pinged me either way. Didn't think I had to put in this much footwork D1 but I'm determined to derail this train on me because it will mess up EoD.
is there even a train on you

i think only me and yurkin are voting you
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Aight im gonna watch some GDQ and play Monhun. I'll be back in 11 hours to read some Dorocha shit and get a migraine.

Sayonara
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actually im voting myself

so only yurkin is voting you, unless i missed someone else voting lucian?
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Doughkey said:
LucianRoy said:


Working on a multi quote of things that pinged me either way. Didn't think I had to put in this much footwork D1 but I'm determined to derail this train on me because it will mess up EoD.


48 hour dayphase. Our goldfish brains wont even remember we were sus of you come the AM. Like I personally forgot anyone other than Crossbell exists.

Did you remember Wisp was in this game?

I certainly didn't until he meandered his way onto this page.
im retired
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
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