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| @Oyasumi_Rosie check out my updated vote counts and tell me what you think? D2 VC looks very interesting to me. Grapefruit train may have multiple scum on it? @Grapefruit21 how do you feel about your train on D2? |
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logic340 said: Yep yep, CP is a good lynch for today I think, I wish them luck.With Phraze flipping town I guess that means Claire was doing a whole lot of White Knighting of Town this game. Does Scum not mingle with the town dead chat? Claire isn't here... |
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| @Oyasumi_Rosie why CP? Aren't they part of the reason that Claire ended up getting lynched yesterday? Based on the claims it seems to me that CP and Salmon should have been the most cleared after the events of EoD yesterday. TheConquerer looks suspicious to me given that Claire backed up so many townies and didn't suspect very many people here suspicions of TheConquerer look like her trying to gain credit off the flip. |
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logic340 said: Hmm, maybe I didn't read EoD as well as I thought. For some reason I got in in my head that they were protect her by saying they would switch their vote to Sollux and someone else. But now that I think of that it was Zymf who said that right? >.>@Oyasumi_Rosie why CP? Aren't they part of the reason that Claire ended up getting lynched yesterday? Based on the claims it seems to me that CP and Salmon should have been the most cleared after the events of EoD yesterday. TheConquerer looks suspicious to me given that Claire backed up so many townies and didn't suspect very many people here suspicions of TheConquerer look like her trying to gain credit off the flip. |
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| So I am going to steal your post to give you my where I think the game is going to go now @logic340 Confirmed Town: logic340 Sleipnirr Oyasumi_Rosie Grapefruit21 Shinichi-kun Phraze Town Lean: Red_Salmon Sollux16 Mishkax Neutral: RE1031 CorruptedPurity Scum Lean: TheConquerer Zymf Confirmed Mafia: _Claire_ Since Haruhi I keep getting Mish and Penta confused, so it makes reading both of them hard for me. Something still bugs me about CP though, but its a suzu situation again, with no hard proof. :/ Hopefully they can lynch Zymf today, I am pretty sure he is scum now. |
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logic340 said: At his point, I am willing to bet that the entire scum team voted for Grapefruit.@Oyasumi_Rosie check out my updated vote counts and tell me what you think? D2 VC looks very interesting to me. Grapefruit train may have multiple scum on it? @Grapefruit21 how do you feel about your train on D2? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: Hmm, maybe I didn't read EoD as well as I thought. For some reason I got in in my head that they were protect her by saying they would switch their vote to Sollux and someone else. But now that I think of that it was Zymf who said that right? >.>@Oyasumi_Rosie why CP? Aren't they part of the reason that Claire ended up getting lynched yesterday? Based on the claims it seems to me that CP and Salmon should have been the most cleared after the events of EoD yesterday. TheConquerer looks suspicious to me given that Claire backed up so many townies and didn't suspect very many people here suspicions of TheConquerer look like her trying to gain credit off the flip. This is CorruptedPurity talking to RE about the abilities That actually sounds very reasonable.. Which would mean Claire is the roleblocker, no? Since you and Claire visited Shinichi-kun. It was due to them all talking about abiltites that they were able to get Claire. The problem I have is CP and Red not voting for Claire after all that is a bit of a mystery but not sure that makes them scum. RE and Mishukax are more on my radar right now due to the way Claire's interactions with RE picked up on D3 and the fact that her and Mishu have like 3 interactions over the course of the game ( I think they happened early).Unless there's this PR in the mix - the rolestopper (according to Zymf) but roleblocker seems to be a more common ability. |
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logic340 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Hmm, maybe I didn't read EoD as well as I thought. For some reason I got in in my head that they were protect her by saying they would switch their vote to Sollux and someone else. But now that I think of that it was Zymf who said that right? >.> This is CorruptedPurity talking to RE about the abilities That actually sounds very reasonable.. Which would mean Claire is the roleblocker, no? Since you and Claire visited Shinichi-kun. It was due to them all talking about abiltites that they were able to get Claire. The problem I have is CP and Red not voting for Claire after all that is a bit of a mystery but not sure that makes them scum. RE and Mishukax are more on my radar right now due to the way Claire's interactions with RE picked up on D3 and the fact that her and Mishu have like 3 interactions over the course of the game ( I think they happened early).Unless there's this PR in the mix - the rolestopper (according to Zymf) but roleblocker seems to be a more common ability. That is true. To me, that play about the roles by Mish really cleared him for me, even though it proved not 100% true. I think that is a good base to start building up good scum reads. RE is kind of blank to me right now.... no impress of them at all. If I was town, I could be talked in to voting for them, but I don't think there is much there. |
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| Dang it Logic... I missed my bus because of you <.< Are you trying to keep me from going to class? |
Oyasumi_RosieFeb 28, 2017 10:53 AM
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: No....not at all....education comes first....lol. Sorry I made you late.Dang it Logic... I missed my bus because of you <.< Are you trying to keep me from going to class? |
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logic340 said: lol its my fault for having so little self control. Besides you only made me late for being super early.Oyasumi_Rosie said: No....not at all....education comes first....lol. Sorry I made you late.it Logic... I missed my bus because of you <.< Are you trying to keep me from going to class? |
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| @logic340 I've not been reading this game as part of my self imposed break. Waiting out this one and alcatraz before coming back in. |
Grapefruit21 said: fair enough I'll let you know how Alcatraz goes.@logic340 I've not been reading this game as part of my self imposed break. Waiting out this one and alcatraz before coming back in. |
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Grapefruit21 said: awwww too bad. Well I kiss you already buddy. Hope your game improves because of it though@logic340 I've not been reading this game as part of my self imposed break. Waiting out this one and alcatraz before coming back in. |
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| Stealing this from Mishu and adding to it. Chii (Follower) (Oyasumi Rosi) - Hibiya Freya Phraze Kaoru (Voyeur) (RE1031) - Hikaru (Grapefruit21) Hideyoshi (Voyeur) (TheConquerer) - Yuuko (Roleblocker) (Clarie) Minun (PR) (Mishukax) - Plusle (Sleipnirr) Rem (Tracker) (Shinichi-kun - Ram (VT - possibly maf) (Zymf) Rin (Watcher) (Red_Salmon) - Yukio (VT - possibly maf) (Sollux) Terriermon (Bodyguard) (CorruptedPurity) - Lopmon (logic340 |
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RE1031 said: RE1031 looks scummy based on saying that even night twins were default voyeur given the Phraze flip. The Voyeur ability (visit someone + find out what actions were performed on them) is shared by multiple players. I think you have it, as did I, and so did Phraze. Another reason I have for suspecting Zymf is for this post. He didn't know about the Voyeur ability being a default for even twins, Claire too was unaware of this. Maybe he is completely misunderstanding something but this looks like an attempt to clear Zymf (which Ruu messed up in FFXV trying to clear Soren)Claire and Zymf didn't know about an ability that doesn't exist? IDK something is off about the quoted post. Having the same ability as TheConquerer is also concerning I will need to see who claimed first and if they both seem like legitimate claims. Mishukax looks bad to me based off the Vote Count and this twin setup. He believes there are 7 PR's, 4 VT, and 3 mafia. With one Mafia being a role blocker I don't see how this could be considered a balanced set up given all the watching/tracking going on. I was thinking 7 VT, 4PR's, and 3 Mafia for the setup. In a world where Mishu is right then Zymf and Sollux look bad but this feels too easy. This is a aa-dono and DenjaX Setup and I do not expect it to be broken so easily. Looking at things I do not believe there is a world where I am right about setup since we have more claims than 7 vanilla would allow. Unless RE somehow misunderstood her role and is really VT #7. Then it's Mishukax and most likely TheConquerer. Still kind of lost not going to try and find teams as I only need to find one for this phase (if I was in the game that is). |
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| Hmm.... I still don't like Cp though... I really think that they are scum.... At least we disagree with each other thougj, it will make this a whole lot interesting. |
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| Wow this phase is going to end in a crazy way. Sollux might just be the mafia this game due to his lack of input. I saw him struggle as new town and those struggles don't seem to be as apparent here in this game. If he does get Mod Killed I hope he flips scum but I don't think I have ever seen a Modkilled player flip scum so.....yeah. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: CP visiting Shinichi the same night Claire did makes little sense if he is scum imo. Why would 2 mafia members visit shinichi? it was also due to him coming forward about his ability that Claire got caught up. Zymf looks worse to me and I defended him from you on D1. Red_Salmon not being around bothers me as well due to all these similar roles. TheConq being the fifth and a "motion detector" wtf role is that?Hmm.... I still don't like Cp though... I really think that they are scum.... At least we disagree with each other thougj, it will make this a whole lot interesting. |
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| Sollux needs to flip mafia if he is modkilled but I have a feeling he will flip town. |
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| With 20 minutes left they should be more confident in this lynch given they got scum in Claire. Mishukax looking more suspect to me at this point Also since they got a scum flip I'm shocked no one is looking at Claire's interactions or vote count. |
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| So yeah after the way CorruptedPurity played this phase I'm sold in them being town. If they are mafia they push s mislynch and let the Sillox modkill take them to victory. I'll update the Vote Counts shortly and try to make sense of then given the latest lynch. |
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◩ Vote Count 1.9 [ Final ] ◩ [ 4 ] Sleipnirr - Mishukax, logic340, Sollux16, Shinichi-Kun [ 3 ] TheConquerer - Phraze, Grapefruit21, _Claire_ [ 2 ] Red_Salmon - TheConquerer, CorruptedPurity [ 1 ] Oyasumi_Rosie - Zymf [ 1 ] Phraze - RE1031 [ 1 ] Grapefruit21 - Sleipnirr Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie, Red_Salmon ◩ Vote Count 2.5 (Final) ◩ [ 5 ] Grapefruit21 - RE1031, _Claire_, CorruptedPurity, TheConquerer, Zymf [ 4 ] CorruptedPurity - Shinichi-Kun, Grapefruit21, Oyasumi_Rosie, Mishukax [ 1 ] RE1031 - Red_Salmon [ 1 ] Mishukax - Phraze Not Voting Sollux16 ◩ Vote Count 3.5(FINAL) ◩ [ 4 ] _Claire_ – Mishukax, RE1031, Shinichi-Kun, Zymf [ 2 ] Sollux16 - TheConquerer, CorruptedPurity [ 1 ] CorruptedPurity - Phraze [ 1 ] Zymf - Sollux16 [ 1 ] TheConquerer – _Claire_ Not Voting Red_Salmon ◩ Vote Count 4.3 (Final) ◩ [ 2 ] Sollux16 - CorruptedPurity, Zymf [ 1 ] Zymf - TheConquerer Not Voting Red_Salmon, Sollux16, Mishukax, RE1031 |
logic340Mar 2, 2017 10:22 AM
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| A lot of answers surround Mishukax flip. -If Mishu is scum then their is one other scum mixed among the Grapefruit train D2. -If Mishu is Town then their the entire scum team voted Grapefruit D2. -Mishukax being the only unconfirmed town on the trains he's on in the first two Vote Counts bothers me. -Final Vote count 2 should stand out to Mishukax but since he isn't brining it up I guess it probably outs him as scum. -I would say Salmon not voting again bothers me but they weren't around for the latter stages of the phase. -Mishu's vote on Claire should be looked at in the same light as he looked at Zymf's vote. It's quite possible they didn't think Claire would get lynched and when things started going down hill he couldn't risk moving to someone else. -Zymf has been the final vote 3 times and has landed on town 3/4 votes. |
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| @Sleipnirr talk threw some things with me please? |
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| @Sollux16 who do you think is scum? I'm pretty sold on Mishukax being scum right now |
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okay what do you want me to look at? |
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| Claire interactions based on them who might be get partners? I tried to do an analysis but I don't think think it's put together properly. Do you think Mishu and Zymf could be her partners? |
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Sollux16 said: I'm not liking TheConquerer either. I might do an ISO on himI believe that scum is either conq or Mishu... possibly zymf but I'm not feeling as strongly about that as I am the other two. |
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| TheConquerer Got to run for a little while will finish this when I get back. Not liking his early interactions with Claire D2 especially when she voted him and almost got him lynch D1. |
logic340Mar 2, 2017 12:08 PM
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| I'm really happy my early read on @Red_Salmon was correct! Red_Salmon do you think Mishu is scum? |
logic340Mar 2, 2017 11:20 AM
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| The Conquerer and CorruptedPurity could be the final two scum as well. |
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Red_Salmon said: my early read on you was townie vibes!! Hanging the Vote on me for so long made me think but in the end I thought scum wouldn't do that. I thick Mishu is likely scum at this point.I didn't read that the phase was 24 hours ;-; its my fault. I respect that! The internet situation at my dorm limited me that day. Well weeping aside hi @Sollux16 I definitely Definitely would've saved you from getting lynched had I gotten the chance :'/ but good to see ya. As twins its kinda beautiful that we died in the same day (kinda) with the town not trusting either of us (kinda) logic340 said: ^-^ yea! I guess I just sound pretty scummy at times :p gotta catch up the day I missed.I'm really happy my early read on @Red_Salmon was correct! Red_Salmon do you think Mishu is scum? |
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| I am pretty sure that Mishukax is scum. TheConquerer might just be town with all the votes on him. My money is on Zymf and Mishu for the last two scum. RE |
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| I'd vote Mishu today based on lack of game solving and their claim. I guess it's possible there is a survivor in this game but seems out of place to me. |
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| The game didn't end so I guess there is only one scum left a way for town to kill scum during the night phase. Hm.... |
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logic340 said: TheConq being the fifth and a "motion detector" wtf role is that? LOL Poor conq |