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Jun 8, 2020 9:42 PM

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I fucking hate Akito, there is nothing she can do that will make me forgive her. How much she tormented the zodiac children and how she used them. Poor Momiji! How dare she hit him! :( He was crying and trembling. She did the same to Yuki and many others and worse!
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Jun 8, 2020 9:48 PM

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Just when I thought they couldn't top the last episode. This series never ceases to impress me.
Jun 8, 2020 10:31 PM

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I already knew what was going to happen when Akito made his appearance, but seeing this scene in animated form felt like I was going through all those emotions I felt when I first read the chapters that were adapted for this episode.

Akito didn't hold back when Momiji tried to deny his request to see Tohru by swiftly punching the poor guy in the face. To Momiji's shock, Tohru then appeared to intervene, but Akito used this opportunity to send a stark and venomous warning to Tohru, that all of the zodiac animals will return to him and he would punish Tohru if she dared to put a stop to his goal.

Most viewers would have their blood boil at what Akito did, from punching Momiji to even leaving bloody scratch marks on Tohru's face. It just makes you want to send a nice fist to Akito's face, doesn't it?

Despite all of that drama, later on in the episode where the rest of the group were playing with fireworks on the beach, Tohru made her resolve of wanting to save everyone zodiac member from their one-track path to sadness.

It will be very tough for her, but I do look forward to seeing Tohru do her very best as always. Excellent episode overall. =D
Jun 8, 2020 10:55 PM

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That was quite the reveal... Had shivers almost the entire episode. Akito really is terrifying.

I was wondering what Akito's position was amongst the Zodiacs. So she's their "god".

Momiji blocking the way was already a sign that Akito doesn't command complete obedience from them when it comes to Tohru. Loved that moment very much. But that punch from Akito... that really hurt and it made me hurt too. Momiji's eyes were full of terror when Tohru came.

I hate Akito so much. I don't hate her as a character. I think the mangaka wrote her amazingly complex as a character, and the anime certainly brings that to life. But I hate her as a person, for those cruel actions to Yuki, Kyo, Momiji, Hatori, and everyone else that has suffered under her 'rule'. Her scratch on Tohru's face was terrifying to see too.

Momiji's face crying after he brought Shigure and Hatori broke my heart too.

As expected of Tohru. The first thing that comes to her mind is to protect the Zodiacs, and break their curse, even though she knows full well how terrifying Akito is and how she warned her against it at the risk of some equally or more terrifying "punishment".

So from here on out, Tohru will try to break their curse, huh? She must realise the consequences. If she does protect them and break their curse, but in the end she herself is left broken, what would the Zodiacs have joy for?

It feels like the true core of this series has been revealed. To break the Zodiacs' bonds from Akito.
Jun 9, 2020 12:01 AM
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Akito is almost no.1 of hated characters now, second only to Malty from The rising of the shield hero.

I feel really bad for Momili, I happy that Tohru was able to protect him. And i am pleased the Tohru is selfless enough t want to protect everyone from Akito. I'm sure everyone will rally behind her when she needs them.
Jun 9, 2020 2:29 AM

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Excited to start seeing Akito at their worst state mentally and the introduction of Ren.
Jun 9, 2020 5:13 AM

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I know this might be a foolish question, but why many people are referring to Akito as "her"??

Nice, intense episode. Some frustration as nothing really new was revealed. Guessed the true identity of Akito since first season, and it became a surety after reveal of The Rooster guy.
Laplace_kunJun 9, 2020 5:17 AM
"All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo
Jun 9, 2020 5:49 AM

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Laplace_kun said:
I know this might be a foolish question, but why many people are referring to Akito as "her"??

Nice, intense episode. Some frustration as nothing really new was revealed. Guessed the true identity of Akito since first season, and it became a surety after reveal of The Rooster guy.
You’ll find out in good time.
Jun 9, 2020 6:02 AM
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Laplace_kun said:
I know this might be a foolish question, but why many people are referring to Akito as "her"??

Nice, intense episode. Some frustration as nothing really new was revealed. Guessed the true identity of Akito since first season, and it became a surety after reveal of The Rooster guy.


If you read through some of the previous episode threads for season 2 - it's in one of the "Spoliers".
Jun 9, 2020 7:23 AM

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It finally makes sense, so the reason all the zodiac members obey Akito is cause she's their god. Very nice now I hope she dies soon.
Jun 9, 2020 7:47 AM

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Seems Tohru really want to sacrifice herself to help them
but I can't imagine what punishment will she got if she successfully help them
Jun 9, 2020 8:18 AM

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Laplace_kun said:
I know this might be a foolish question, but why many people are referring to Akito as "her"??

Nice, intense episode. Some frustration as nothing really new was revealed. Guessed the true identity of Akito since first season, and it became a surety after reveal of The Rooster guy.


Because people can't help themselves in spoiling things lol.
Jun 9, 2020 8:23 AM

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Akito threatened Tohru in the hope of getting her to run away.
Instead it steeled Tohru's resolve, I've always loved this.
Jun 9, 2020 10:10 AM
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Loved this episode development! Honda Tohru is determined in breaking the curse and I love it! Looking forward to the next episodes and story outcome ;)
Jun 9, 2020 11:48 AM

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I don't know much about Zodiac lore, but being called the god of the Zodiac is good enough reason for me to believe no one can challenge him. Now I wonder if he was born with this God power or has been alive for a very long time. Also I feel like the curse would have to be some kind of power that compels him to act a certain way but idk. Gonna be a while before we find out.

Edit: He->she. Apparently all the fucktards in the comments couldn't contain themselves despite nothing in the episode revealing this.
ProofByColorJun 9, 2020 11:52 AM
Jun 9, 2020 1:50 PM

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I think breaking the curse has got something to do with the cat zodiac. Or at least, that's what I want to happen. If Tohru will be able to help lift the curse, probably no one will be there for Akito anymore. Not even Kureno. And that is what I want to see for the ending.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
Jun 9, 2020 9:33 PM

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For someone who supposedly has fragile health, that sure was one hell of a punch Akito gave to Momiji...
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... no but seriously, damn her existence! How dare she raise a hand to my sweet little boy?! I swear, any glimpse of potential redemption is fading quicker than usual with each scene she appears in.

Overall, pretty good episode to conclude this quite eventful arc. The tension remains as palpable as ever whenever Akito appears on screen and boy, her encounter with Momiji and Tohru sure was a example of it. Momiji getting punched made me want to jump into the screen but that aside, I'm really proud of him for bravely standing up for Tohru and then deciding to bring the adults instead of Kyou and co. He did good in that regard.

Regarding Akito's identity, I already suspected she had a quite important role into the Zodiac order but revealing herself as something akin to God sure was more than what I was expecting lol.
Now, I have a better picture of the whole curse deal and why nobody can't really disobey her since you know, trying to oppose (or kill) a God is quite the predicament after all. And Tohru is in the middle of all this... oh boy. Though funnily enough, Akito trying to dismiss her efforts and explicitly threatening her only to have Tohru's resolve to save everyone getting stronger in the end sure put a huge smile on my face. Hopefully, she will keep making more huge changes for the rest of the Zodiacs members she isn't familiar with yet.
Jun 10, 2020 5:44 AM

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not sure if it intended to be that deep, but here is my 'psychological' take.. 'zodiac curse' may be transgenerational trauma and Akito being an ultimate Parent figure, mother+father. children perceive their parents as gods, to go against a parent is to go against God. and if your parents don't love you you end up hating yourself and believing you don't deserve love. so maybe it's all about something like that... Tohru being a catalyst as a figure capable of unconditional love (at least so is portrayed. in real life you can't think as little of yourself as Tohru does and be able to love unconditionally at the same time).
what is my main never-ending great dissatisfaction aside from 1000 others is that in real life it's not possible to 'save' anyone. it's each individual's job to save themselves and can't be done by another. and the desire to 'save' people also comes from self-hatred/codependency, especially at owns expense. so Tohru wanting to 'save' everyone even if it means she's gonna be harmed, is top tier codependency/low self-esteem. from what i've seen so far it'd be silly to hope that her desire is going to be shown in a different light
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Jun 10, 2020 7:38 AM

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What a nerve for Akito to appear and hit Momiji with such force. Savage! How dare you!! And he dare say to Tohru "You're not a very nice person"?
My quick question was: Are you, Akito?? NO! Not even a bit ò_ó

What an intense episode! >_< I was so mad untill I saw those fireworks... I will never forget Akito's actions towards Momiji and Tohru. He will be forever in my hate list.

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Jun 10, 2020 9:38 AM
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Sorvarin said:
from what i've seen so far it'd be silly to hope that her desire is going to be shown in a different light


well ... will it make you feel better to know you're dead wrong?

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Jun 10, 2020 10:28 AM

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There's something about ending summer with fireworks that feels so nostalgic. They go well together like two bees in a pod.
Jun 10, 2020 12:18 PM

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thebond_thecurse said:
Sorvarin said:
from what i've seen so far it'd be silly to hope that her desire is going to be shown in a different light


well ... will it make you feel better to know you're dead wrong?


of course it will. so all of it is going to be explicitly presented like this in the end, seriously? good fucking news then! Tohru's shit i already got figured out so this part's fine but it'd have been better for me if i didn't know this spolier about Akito but whatever i guess :]
upd: i done reading manga. you weren't telling me the truth dawg. i wasn't really wrong. like, kinda wrong, but not really if you think about the whole thing more.
SorvarinJul 13, 2020 12:30 AM
see you, space cowperson . . .
Jun 10, 2020 4:56 PM

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We finally get a "reveal", but it's just the most obvious part. That Akito is the god of the story has been likely for a while and all but definitive since establishing Kureno is the last animal. This doesn't do anything to explain what the hold actually is or what the effect is on Akito to make him all nutty. We get a liiiittle bit with the hold on their souls line, but that's vague enough to mean anything. We also get an eternal stagnation scenario, which isn't that surprising with an inherited role, but there's degrees of literal that could be taken.

The longer this goes on the harder it is for me to be satisfied with whatever explanation will come, especially when they have scenes of Akito being "manipulative". If it's supposed to be that those crazy rants actually convince them rather than some magic soul tug then that's going to be a real hard sell. Makes me apprehensive to continue.

Might as well make the prediction that Akito's curse is to remember all the generations, twisting him with all the zodiacs he's seen die and twisting the dagger when he sees pale reflections in the latest members. Hence wanting to force them to be more like his lost friends. That seems like the kinda cliche we're heading for.
Jun 11, 2020 12:44 AM

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As a newcomer, this is all starting to make more sense, and I'm much more invested now. Akito always had a sort of intimidating authority, but it was hard to pinpoint why all the Zodiacs seemed to suck up to her throughout the series, and what her purpose in the plot was.

There also didn't seem to be a real end goal to the series; it seemed to be mainly Tohru's SOL interactions with the Sohma family + high school classmates up to this point, with romantic progressions here and there. But this episode makes more clear that the real goal is to free all of the Zodiacs from the curse and Akito's control.

On a side note, I'm definitely curious to see more of Kureno and Uotani since their relationship hasn't been touched on much lately, and it's hinted he still has lingering feelings for her here.
Jun 11, 2020 4:31 AM
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Bio said:
We finally get a "reveal", but it's just the most obvious part. That Akito is the god of the story has been likely for a while and all but definitive since establishing Kureno is the last animal. This doesn't do anything to explain what the hold actually is or what the effect is on Akito to make him all nutty. We get a liiiittle bit with the hold on their souls line, but that's vague enough to mean anything. We also get an eternal stagnation scenario, which isn't that surprising with an inherited role, but there's degrees of literal that could be taken.

The longer this goes on the harder it is for me to be satisfied with whatever explanation will come, especially when they have scenes of Akito being "manipulative". If it's supposed to be that those crazy rants actually convince them rather than some magic soul tug then that's going to be a real hard sell. Makes me apprehensive to continue.

Might as well make the prediction that Akito's curse is to remember all the generations, twisting him with all the zodiacs he's seen die and twisting the dagger when he sees pale reflections in the latest members. Hence wanting to force them to be more like his lost friends. That seems like the kinda cliche we're heading for.


The curse should get explained more within the next two episodes to end the first cour. It's the next two chapters after this one in the manga, but it looks like the anime might shuffle things a bit so that it happens in the 12th episode.

But it will also get explained even more in some events that will likely happen at the end of this season or beginning of season 3. And it gets brought its final clarity at the very end of the series when we see how the curse started in the first place. I dunno what to tell you about Furuba not showing all its cards at once. The series is a slow burn.

And your prediction is ... wildly wrong.
Jun 11, 2020 7:31 AM

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Definitely wasn't asking for spoilers. Would be a bit upset if I was more invested.
Jun 11, 2020 10:35 AM

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Does she really has control on them or something can she kill them if she want and
what sort of control does she has would be thanks full if someone answer it for me.
Jun 11, 2020 10:37 AM

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ggultra2764 said:
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Still wondering when we're going to get actual backstory on Akito, who is just cartoonishly villainous so far.


That won't happen for a fair while (sometime in the middle of the title's second half) as the anime's only covered up to the 11th manga volume thus far, barring one two-chapter side story from Volume 10 that has yet to be adapted for the anime. But this episode did drop a couple hints regarding elements of Akito's character and backstory that drove him quite off his rocker more than usual with his interactions with Tohru and Momiji.
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Raizel said:
ggultra2764 said:


That won't happen for a fair while (sometime in the middle of the title's second half) as the anime's only covered up to the 11th manga volume thus far, barring one two-chapter side story from Volume 10 that has yet to be adapted for the anime. But this episode did drop a couple hints regarding elements of Akito's character and backstory that drove him quite off his rocker more than usual with his interactions with Tohru and Momiji.


Not a wise move to be spoiling things without tags, sir.
Jun 11, 2020 11:03 AM

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ggultra2764 said:

Not a wise move to be spoiling things without tags, sir.


wait a second I'm sure that from the subs I read
Jun 11, 2020 2:48 PM

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Raizel said:
ggultra2764 said:

Not a wise move to be spoiling things without tags, sir.


wait a second I'm sure that from the subs I read


Jun 11, 2020 7:39 PM

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they finally met!
oh god feels like everything is going down!!!
5/5.


Jun 12, 2020 3:52 PM

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Huh so Akito is a god. Wonder how they will deal with her in the end. That was quite an intense scene. Thankfully rest of the episode was wholesome, happy times.
Jun 13, 2020 2:05 AM
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Omg Akito God reveal wow

but can I just say I want to punch her for hurting Momiji that's just cold-hearted

Kyo didn't say it but just that he knows he loves Tohru ahhh my heart 🥰 🥰🥺
Jun 13, 2020 2:22 AM

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Now it finally explains why they can't just disobey Akito, but I'm still curious why he acts like that.
Jun 13, 2020 10:12 AM

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Finally we get to see the fireworks! Akito paid Tohru a direct visit eh
Jun 13, 2020 11:10 AM

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Man, why did Akito had to punch Momiji like that bruh? Overall the episode was good and we get more glimpse of what Akito is and what his plan is.
Jun 13, 2020 2:20 PM
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Bio said:
Definitely wasn't asking for spoilers. Would be a bit upset if I was more invested.


Well lucky for you, I didn't give you any spoilers.
Jun 14, 2020 8:16 AM

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I need one of you ingenious techies to invent something like NervGear so I can go kill Akito! I'll be a god killer. I don't care. Thanks in advance! <3

Back to reality, I figured Akito was the "13th" from the closing awhile ago. Most people don't realize there's 13th in the middle of a zodiac. It's supposed to symbolize enlightenment, and guide your soul around the wheel. AKITO FALLS WAY SHORT!
Jun 15, 2020 9:02 AM
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i do not care what kind of trauma akito went through i have never wanted to throw hands with a character more than ever every episode fuels me with rage from akito jesus christ


Exactly, Akito needs to get the hands.
Jun 17, 2020 4:46 AM

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Zodiacs have one shitty god to deal with...
Jul 4, 2020 4:28 PM

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Don't hurt my baby Momiji! :(
I'm glad that him and Tohru gave support to each other. I just want them to be happy geez
Jul 7, 2020 8:45 PM

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NUUUUUUUUUU. I knew the punch was coming, but it still hurt, ahuuuuuuu TT^TT don't hit my Momiji baby D:< no scratching Tohru baby D:<
Jul 7, 2020 9:00 PM

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When Akito scratched Tohru and she didn't so much as wince at it... So selfless that her only focus is staying strong in front of him for the Zodiacs sake. That whole seen was tense and I felt nothing but hatred for Akito(don'tyoudarehurtthatsweetprincess!).

I can't help but feel like there's going to be a point in the story where I'm gonna feel bad for him for some reason. Idk it just seems like this kinda intense negative character dev. is headed straight for that.
Jul 9, 2020 3:34 AM

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I feel sad for Momiji! He's always cheerful but lonely inside :(
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Jul 15, 2020 12:44 AM

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had a good laugh when Momiji said Kyo was trying to mug him. :D

hmm, Sepak Takraw? that's a sport that's also played in my country.

also my respect for Momiji suddenly went way up. The courage to block the creep, even when alone, getting wounded for doing so. The rabbit is also a quick thinker, because he quickly ran to get help from the dog and Hatori, those two guys have a better chance of protecting Tohru if things got ugly.

fun fireworks at the beach to help forget the bad memory. The story is moving forward, with Tohru determined to save everyone from the curse. :)
Aug 3, 2020 6:41 PM
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I do not want Akito to get a happy ending I really don't care about his past he used that to be a brutal bully to the other members of the Zodiac and most likely the other normal Soma family members. I don't think he understand his control is already starting to crack Momji just the first to stand to protect Torhu and Torhu not likely to back down or become so scarred like Kana she got Kyo to come back after Kazuma showed her Kyo's true form
Aug 22, 2020 11:30 PM

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If I were Tohru, I'd let Akito know that I would be filing for assault. I don't care if she's the head of a wealthy, powerful and established household. This chick is going dooooowwwwwnnn.

Also, Momiji is consistently the best character in this entire show... And I say that with a great deal of love and affection for the rest of the gang.
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Aug 27, 2020 7:08 AM

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Aah, i want to hit that damn Akito.
Sep 1, 2020 8:02 AM
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Crazy Akito doing crazy things, classic. Looks like this arc is over, nice.
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