Manticore57 said: ElsaZone said: I haven't even seen season 2 and season 3 is already here?! Dang! Go and watch S2 asap - it took the emotions and story to a new level. I found the first season a guilty pleasure but the second season I would recommend without reservation; the only jarring aspect was the sudden shift of protagonists. It's a strange notion, given that the second season was essentially made on the principle of "take what made the first season popular and double it." As for the protagonists, this was to be expected given the size of the roster. |
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RobertBobert said: Initially, you stated that this is the most selling show at all. And I highly doubt that even two seasons together could bring in more than a million with such sales. And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. For example, in 2020 https://erzat.blog/anime-industry-report-2021-part-3-the-crumbling-videogram-market-but-is-there-still-hope/ there were overall sales easily overtook Uma Musume. Disc Sales per volume: 1: 216,459 2: 196,776 3: 184,935 4: 181,613 refers to the number of discs sold per volume, not the amount of total revenue. So total discs would be the sum of all volume sales which is around 800,000. In the link you posted, the highest selling blu-ray and DVD is Tenki no Ko 207,150 copies, much less than the 800,000 of Uma Musume 2. Uma Musume 2 revenue from disc sales was around 6.9 billion yen which is more than even the 1.8 billion yen for the Kimetsu no Yaiba in the posted link. |
Bocchi said: RobertBobert said: Initially, you stated that this is the most selling show at all. And I highly doubt that even two seasons together could bring in more than a million with such sales. And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. For example, in 2020 https://erzat.blog/anime-industry-report-2021-part-3-the-crumbling-videogram-market-but-is-there-still-hope/ there were overall sales easily overtook Uma Musume. Disc Sales per volume: 1: 216,459 2: 196,776 3: 184,935 4: 181,613 refers to the number of discs sold per volume, not the amount of total revenue. So total discs would be the sum of all volume sales which is around 800,000. In the link you posted, the highest selling blu-ray and DVD is Tenki no Ko 207,150 copies, much less than the 800,000 of Uma Musume 2. Uma Musume 2 revenue from disc sales was around 6.9 billion yen which is more than even the 1.8 billion yen for the Kimetsu no Yaiba in the posted link. Thank you for repeating the old arguments around the second circle. Tenki no Ko was one movie versus Uma Musume's 4 volumes (Not to mention the movie was released in 2019 and grossed over 12 billion yen in the first year, reaching 14.06 for 2020), not to mention that TV show interest is usually measured by first disc sales, as sales always drop. And this, again, without manipulating sales by adding unique bonuses for the game to the set. This is first. Second, only streaming video sales are listed here, not disc sales. https://www.crunchyroll.com/ru/anime-news/2021/10/15-1/toyo-keizai-demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaibas-2020-economic-impact-was-1-trillion-yen Secondly, Kimetsu no Yaiba was OFFICIALLY the most financially successful franchise of 2020 with $8.75 million dollars in sales. Never engage in an argument on pure emotion if you have nothing new to say and don't even know the topic in general. https://animegalaxyofficial.com/top-10-highest-grossing-anime-franchises-of-all-time/ Again, Uma Musume is nowhere near the best-selling anime franchise of all time. |
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| Loved the first, kind of hated the second. If Teiou and McQueen are again the MC I don't think I will watch it but who knows. |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
Laesx said: Do you guys think there's going to be Mayano Top Gun in this season? i was kind of disappointed that she had almost no relevance in season 2 because you know... she's Teio's ROOMMATE... |
| Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill. |
| Actually, I'm expecting the game to release out to NA. |
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young_kappa said: Laesx said: Do you guys think there's going to be Mayano Top Gun in this season? i was kind of disappointed that she had almost no relevance in season 2 because you know... she's Teio's ROOMMATE... I don't think that division of one room makes the character noticeably plot-relevant compared to the MC's principal rivals. |
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RobertBobert said: young_kappa said: i was kind of disappointed that she had almost no relevance in season 2 because you know... she's Teio's ROOMMATE... I don't think that division of one room makes the character noticeably plot-relevant compared to the MC's principal rivals. she doesnt have to be pivotal to the story i just wanted to see her more |
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young_kappa said: RobertBobert said: I don't think that division of one room makes the character noticeably plot-relevant compared to the MC's principal rivals. she doesnt have to be pivotal to the story i just wanted to see her more Well, if you follow the logic of past seasons, maybe when she has her own rival. |
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itsdreo said: I don't know what to expect but aslong as we get more Twin Turbo I'm happy :) Yes! Twin Turbo's adorable and funny too. All season 3 needs is: MOAR Twin Turbo! 😻 |
TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: So you're saying that all these people had absolutely no interest in the franchise other than a brief shiping or occasional anime viewing due to all-female fanservice? He's right tho, Uma Musume is by far is one of the unpopular gacha game outside Japan. The fact that the developer didn't release English version of it shows that Uma Musume isn't as popular as Azur Lane, Arknights, Princess Connect!, Blue Archive, etc. I didn't ask about that. And about why the franchise is still unpopular in the West despite such an unhealthy interest of moe fanboys in anime. |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: I didn't ask about that. And about why the franchise is still unpopular in the West despite such an unhealthy interest of moe fanboys in anime. Don't ask me about that lol, my guess is because of the lack of fanservice in Uma Musume or people in the West isn't interested with the concept of idol x (horse) race. I don't know, in my opinion, the lack of fanservice on the contrary drew people's attention to the plot and depth of the show. Plus, like I said, the show was pretty popular with yuri fans, even though PAWORKS removed yuri bait from the past timeline. |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: I don't know, in my opinion, the lack of fanservice on the contrary drew people's attention to the plot and depth of the show. Plus, like I said, the show was pretty popular with yuri fans, even though PAWORKS removed yuri bait from the past timeline. Well maybe the Western yuri fans doesn't like that their yuri couple is in a fact a team of horses 🤷♂️. Well, judging by the articles on the original horses' kinship, they were more concerned with the idea that many of their ships were potential incest. But I doubt that it could scare people that much, since yuri or BL shipping usually doesn't have any red lines, suffice it to mention Osamatsu-san. But aside from the ships, I'm surprised it still doesn't have a global version. It seemed to me that I even saw an official English-speaking community somewhere. |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: Well, judging by the articles on the original horses' kinship, they were more concerned with the idea that many of their ships were potential incest. But I doubt that it could scare people that much, since yuri or BL shipping usually doesn't have any red lines, suffice it to mention Osamatsu-san. But aside from the ships, I'm surprised it still doesn't have a global version. It seemed to me that I even saw an official English-speaking community somewhere. For the why the game still doesn't have global/English version is because gacha games needs 4 things to become popular: 1. fanservice 2. interesting concept 3. great story line 4. interesting gameplay. While IMO, Uma Musume is lacking of fanservice and maybe for some people the gameplay isn't that much interesting since you just training the horse girls to become stronger and then watch the horse girl to win the race or not, basically just it. And that's it? No light teasing between the girls and you like in IMAS, no interesting dynamics like friendship or rivalry between the girls, and no interesting events? What exactly do you mean by fanservice? |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: And that's it? No light teasing between the girls and you like in IMAS, no interesting dynamics like friendship or rivalry between the girls, and no interesting events? What exactly do you mean by fanservice? I'm just saying the basic things, not something you need to know further about after playing the game. And what I meant by fanservice, just look at Azur Lane. Do you think that poorly dressed girls that you can dress in fetishized costumes have such a big impact on the financial interest in your brand? |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: Do you think that poorly dressed girls that you can dress in fetishized costumes have such a big impact on the financial interest in your brand? Technically yes since most gacha games selling fanservice as their main income. Well, I don't know if I can be called the target audience for such games. For me, the main attraction in gacha games is the ability to find reasonably well-written waifu, combined with fun gameplay and an interest in collecting achievements. |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: Well, I don't know if I can be called the target audience for such games. For me, the main attraction in gacha games is the ability to find reasonably well-written waifu, combined with fun gameplay and an interest in collecting achievements. The closest thing for that is Arknights, dunno if you're playing or not, but I heard the story is quite dark and depressing. I haven't played it myself yet, but I've heard quite a lot about this game. I was surprised to learn that it is much more popular than Azur Lane in some way. |
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TomboyTamer said: RobertBobert said: I haven't played it myself yet, but I've heard quite a lot about this game. I was surprised to learn that it is much more popular than Azur Lane in some way. I only know that those two are in the top 3 gacha games, but it's indeed surprised me too that Arknights beat Azur Lane in term of popularity. Perhaps this is due to the fact that, having a common structure, these games have quite different story depth. |
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true enough, i dont know about the original horse racing history and my knowledge is fully reliant on having this franchise teach it to me. |
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| [quote=RobertBobert message=67909325] GangsterCat said: Are there any anime you would describe as an atypical all-female show or are all all-female shows typical to you? Makes it a meaningless distinction if just by being all-female it's automatically typical.What stereotypes? Dude, do you even know what we're talking about? A typical all-female show is a typical all-female cast show. It literally can be anything except that it's only female characters. |
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| [quote=zombie_pegasus message=67936143] RobertBobert said: GangsterCat said: Are there any anime you would describe as an atypical all-female show or are all all-female shows typical to you? Makes it a meaningless distinction if just by being all-female it's automatically typical.What stereotypes? Dude, do you even know what we're talking about? A typical all-female show is a typical all-female cast show. It literally can be anything except that it's only female characters. I doubt that the person with Yama no Susume in the caption and Azu-nyan in the userpic doesn't know what a typical all-female show is. Of course, only if you did not intentionally try to provoke an argument. The main cast of female characters is literally the only and main definition for such shows. What makes them typical is what you can usually find in shows like this, like the very small presence of male characters, the idealization of relationships for what the Japanese call these shows "Girl's zoo" and the variety of gimmicks that I personally call "choose your waifu." Uma Musume is an adaptation of waifu bait gacha, so it's literally the epitome of an all-female show. |
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Amatsukaze24 said: has tokai teiou as main character again interesting Focus is going to be on these three: https://www.siliconera.com/new-uma-musume-anime-will-focus-on-narita-top-road/ |
Teisatsu said: Amatsukaze24 said: has tokai teiou as main character again interesting Focus is going to be on these three: https://www.siliconera.com/new-uma-musume-anime-will-focus-on-narita-top-road/ She is only the main of the three new leads. |
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RobertBobert said: Teisatsu said: Focus is going to be on these three: https://www.siliconera.com/new-uma-musume-anime-will-focus-on-narita-top-road/ She is only the main of the three new leads. I literary wrote "these three"... |
| It seems that I in all haste mixed up "Season 3" with the spin-of "Road to the Top". The latter one has Narita Top Road, T M Opera O, and Admire Vega as main characters. Main characters of season 3 is still unknown. |
RobertBobert said: True, but box office is not comparable to disc sales. TV shows are shown for free on TV and streaming.(Not to mention the movie was released in 2019 and grossed over 12 billion yen in the first year, reaching 14.06 for 2020) RobertBobert said: True. But doesn't change the fact the number of discs sold.And this, again, without manipulating sales by adding unique bonuses for the game to the set. RobertBobert said: It was you who posted the link after talking about items on there have more discs sales. As you said Second, only streaming video sales are listed here, not disc sales. RobertBobert said: And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. For example, in 2020 https://erzat.blog/anime-industry-report-2021-part-3-the-crumbling-videogram-market-but-is-there-still-hope/ there were overall sales easily overtook Uma Musume. RobertBobert said: Dead link.https://www.crunchyroll.com/ru/anime-news/2021/10/15-1/toyo-keizai-demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaibas-2020-economic-impact-was-1-trillion-yen Secondly, Kimetsu no Yaiba was OFFICIALLY the most financially successful franchise of 2020 with $8.75 million dollars in sales. RobertBobert said: Not pure emotion, as I have provided evidence why your points are incorrect. Further, it is better to be proven wrong and then learn the correct information rather than remain quiet and ignorant forever.Never engage in an argument on pure emotion if you have nothing new to say and don't even know the topic in general. RobertBobert said: No one claimed it is the best-selling franchise. The claim was most selling show. That is, the single 1-cour in terms of discs sales.https://animegalaxyofficial.com/top-10-highest-grossing-anime-franchises-of-all-time/ Again, Uma Musume is nowhere near the best-selling anime franchise of all time. Further, you talk about "manipulating sales by adding unique bonuses for the game to the set", yet post a link where Pokemon revenue is 110 billion but where 109 of that billion (82+ 27) is from merchandise and video games, leaving 1 billion for whatever else. And, of course, all the others in the list are the entire franchises not a single season of the show. You have changed the goal posts many times. |
Bocchi said: RobertBobert said: True, but box office is not comparable to disc sales. TV shows are shown for free on TV and streaming.(Not to mention the movie was released in 2019 and grossed over 12 billion yen in the first year, reaching 14.06 for 2020) RobertBobert said: True. But doesn't change the fact the number of discs sold.And this, again, without manipulating sales by adding unique bonuses for the game to the set. RobertBobert said: It was you who posted the link after talking about items on there have more discs sales. As you said Second, only streaming video sales are listed here, not disc sales. RobertBobert said: And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. For example, in 2020 https://erzat.blog/anime-industry-report-2021-part-3-the-crumbling-videogram-market-but-is-there-still-hope/ there were overall sales easily overtook Uma Musume. RobertBobert said: Dead link.https://www.crunchyroll.com/ru/anime-news/2021/10/15-1/toyo-keizai-demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaibas-2020-economic-impact-was-1-trillion-yen Secondly, Kimetsu no Yaiba was OFFICIALLY the most financially successful franchise of 2020 with $8.75 million dollars in sales. RobertBobert said: Not pure emotion, as I have provided evidence why your points are incorrect. Further, it is better to be proven wrong and then learn the correct information rather than remain quiet and ignorant forever.Never engage in an argument on pure emotion if you have nothing new to say and don't even know the topic in general. RobertBobert said: No one claimed it is the best-selling franchise. The claim was most selling show. That is, the single 1-cour in terms of discs sales.https://animegalaxyofficial.com/top-10-highest-grossing-anime-franchises-of-all-time/ Again, Uma Musume is nowhere near the best-selling anime franchise of all time. Further, you talk about "manipulating sales by adding unique bonuses for the game to the set", yet post a link where Pokemon revenue is 110 billion but where 109 of that billion (82+ 27) is from merchandise and video games, leaving 1 billion for whatever else. And, of course, all the others in the list are the entire franchises not a single season of the show. You have changed the goal posts many times. Splitting the post into several small theses to complicate the dialogue + continuation of a dead argument that has nothing to do with you just because you don't want to "lose" + use of scarecrows and an open lie that you can't open the link to avoid having to comment on its content + continuing the argument for the sake of the argument at any cost - thank you, you could not kill any more of my motivation to continue the dialogue with you. Goodbye |
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RobertBobert said: It is not complicating. It makes it clearerSplitting the post into several small theses to complicate the dialogue RobertBobert said: It would seem you are the one who does not want to "lose" after trying to "win" by changing the argument from what was the best-selling anime TV show to which was the best-selling franchise and movie. I have never made this a competition and merely presented the facts.continuation of a dead argument that has nothing to do with you just because you don't want to "lose" RobertBobert said: Not true. https://imgur.com/a/okde4so. Even if the link could be accessed, your claim wasan open lie that you can't open the link to avoid having to comment on its content RobertBobert said: Kimetsu no Yaiba was OFFICIALLY the most financially successful franchise of 2020 with $8.75 million dollars in sales. which is irrelevant. As you are trying to prove what you said here RobertBobert said: And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. Clearly, a franchise is not a show. As we both agree that Uma Musume 2 is the best-selling anime TV show, there is nothing more to say. |
Bocchi said: RobertBobert said: It is not complicating. It makes it clearerSplitting the post into several small theses to complicate the dialogue RobertBobert said: It would seem you are the one who does not want to "lose" after trying to "win" by changing the argument from what was the best-selling anime TV show to which was the best-selling franchise and movie. I have never made this a competition and merely presented the facts.continuation of a dead argument that has nothing to do with you just because you don't want to "lose" RobertBobert said: Not true. https://imgur.com/a/okde4so. Even if the link could be accessed, your claim wasan open lie that you can't open the link to avoid having to comment on its content RobertBobert said: Kimetsu no Yaiba was OFFICIALLY the most financially successful franchise of 2020 with $8.75 million dollars in sales. which is irrelevant. As you are trying to prove what you said here RobertBobert said: And this is clearly not the most successful sales on discs, I have seen shows that sold for 300 or even 400 hundred thousand per disc. Clearly, a franchise is not a show. As we both agree that Uma Musume 2 is the best-selling anime TV show, there is nothing more to say. I repeat once again, I am not going to engage in arguments for the sake of argument, especially in such a scathing style. Especially when you brazenly ignore my refusal to continue the discussion and even have the audacity to openly bait me, declaring that I agree with your position. I repeat for the last time, I do not intend to have any more disputes with you. ESPECIALLY when you in the rudest and most brazen way try to attribute to me what you literally do yourself. You even proceeded to break my comment into pieces when I explicitly opposed it. If you continue, I'll just add you to the ignore list. P.S. The link opens without problems. The fact that for some reason you cannot open it and do not even try to do so is not my problem. |
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Teisatsu said: I think that Kitasan Black and Satono Diamond are most likely to be the new protagonistsIt seems that I in all haste mixed up "Season 3" with the spin-of "Road to the Top". The latter one has Narita Top Road, T M Opera O, and Admire Vega as main characters. Main characters of season 3 is still unknown. |
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auksechan said: I think that Kitasan Black and Satono Diamond are most likely to be the new protagonists I think you are right. |
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