Is an anime bad if it features a morally disgusting character?

Oct 9, 2023 8:48 AM

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no, but it does make it less enjoyable for people like me, especially if the focus is being put too much on it.

Denji from CSM is also quite a pervert, but I actually think that Fujimoto did quite a good job and make it seem more realistical.

Oct 9, 2023 9:17 AM

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No. Just because the mc is a bad person that doesn’t mean the shows is bad or u are bad for watching it over wise everyone forced to do Macbeth in school and who laughs at breaking bad memes should be wrong for liking them or be a bad person for it

Oct 9, 2023 9:34 AM

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Hey idk care if the MC is a giant perverted degenerate or whatever as long as the anime itself has a good story going I'm happy with it.

Oct 9, 2023 9:43 AM

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I feel like having something the character can work too makes it a more interesting story sometimes especially in mushoku tensei

Oct 9, 2023 9:56 AM

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So if its a serie about a anti-hero, like the marvel movie Venom. It is a bad movie? I personally have the opinion that it is my favourite marvel movie because the character is not morally good.

Oct 9, 2023 10:06 AM

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Not automatically but it depends on how they use that trait. It makes the anime unique aswell with how many perfect protags there are now

Oct 9, 2023 10:16 AM

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It all comes down to portrayal and how the person is represented. Bad, evil, morally wrong characters exist in plenty of anime but they are shown that way. In MTs case, people accept, defend and glorify rudeus actions which the author portrayed in the most pathetic way.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Oct 9, 2023 12:33 PM

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course,I dropped jobless reincarnation coz the mc is disgusting,the other characters in the show are perfect,but I couldn't keep watching it

Oct 9, 2023 2:39 PM

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It’s not bad, but a sane person would find it disgusting that seeing something revolving around a literal pedophile as fucked up. I’ve said it a lot, if the MC was different, this anime would’ve been the best isekai out there. But for me, i dislike it for the MC. And also, people who say “he gets better, he regrets everything.” Pedos will always be pedos, end of story.

Oct 9, 2023 2:44 PM

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sometimes it doesn't bother me. rudeus is a horny boy. he just is a man in a child's body. I think it's Gin's voice that makes it seem less weird. but, to be fair, I dropped 7ds because I couldn't handle Melodious.

Oct 9, 2023 5:17 PM

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Piromysl said:
People who hyperfixate on one negative trait, that is early dropped and does not come back, pretending like show is all about that, while completely dismissing the rest are bad actors, who do not deserve attention they seek.
If that's what you are asking for.

Ehh, it’s still there in the second season tho …

That’s a pretty traumatizing thing to do to someone.

Although I don’t find it problematic to have any type of flawed character. I do, however, find it problematic if the behavior should be considered unacceptable and is still almost entirely accepted by the characters surrounding them. It’s desensitizing.

A lot of that stuff isn’t even there for plot. It’s just there to fill out Rudy’s character with a bit more creepy perviness … and fanservice for the people that like that kind of thing.

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Oct 9, 2023 6:18 PM

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Its quite clear that most people here have their own headcannons/misinterpretations of Rudeus and are arguing in bad faith.

Heres a fun thought exercise though. How many people thinking Rudeus brings down the show like Death Note? An infinitely more morally disgusting protagonist. 🤔

ghier said:
Ehh, it’s still there in the second season tho …
That’s a pretty traumatizing thing to do to someone.

Although I don’t find it problematic to have any type of flawed character. I do, however, find it problematic if the behavior should be considered unacceptable and is still almost entirely accepted by the characters surrounding them. It’s desensitizing.

A lot of that stuff isn’t even there for plot. It’s just there to fill out Rudy’s character with a bit more creepy perviness … and fanservice for the people that like that kind of thing.

You named the one thing Rudeus does season 2 he immediately regrets, ignoring all context that no one in the room cares about the bullies, and somehow come out of it thinking it was.....fanservice??? Congratulations, please watch the scene again.

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Oct 9, 2023 6:34 PM

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Actually, the character be “disgusting” doesnt make the show bad, plus the character follow a agenda doesnt make the show good. Thats What a lot of shows dont got it, like all the last marvel movies. Whats matter are the history and the way that it is told.

Oct 9, 2023 7:48 PM

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no, people just like to hate because there's a lot of morally disgusting characters in lots of shows, people are far from perfect and a show that show actual flaws of characters are better than the shows that tries to write all perfectly moral characters

Oct 9, 2023 8:26 PM

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To be frank, he’s only really morally bad the first 12 eps, so it’s really not that big of a deal. First ep is obvi the worst, but at the same time the anime doesn’t glorify bad morals, bro obviously hated how he was in his past life. I think in this case it’s fine.

The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10

Oct 9, 2023 8:32 PM

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no. If a person is morally wrong and gets punished for it, it's a great show. The point of jobless is to show Rudy becoming a better person. Also he gets punished and rewarded for the things he does. S2 especially showed this by giving him ED and depression. If you're bad and you don't get your comeuppance, that's unrealistic and it makes the show hard to watch. luckily jobless did just that.

Oct 9, 2023 9:09 PM

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If it only features a morally disgusting character, no.

If it features a morally disgusting character and a bad plot, yes.

Oct 10, 2023 3:41 AM

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My personal issue with Mushoku tensei is not that the characters do stuff that's morally bad. It's more so that sexaul abuse is used for jokes in this show, without really fully acknowledging that it's bad. I was SA'd by my cousin when I was young, so I can't really look past it. But unfortunately, this is really really common in anime, mushoku tensei is just a bit more.. explicit bc it's an ecchi (which I somehow did not know before watching... oops)

I'm not saying you can never do pervy jokes, have fanservice, etc. it's just that a lot of the time, the narrative doesn't consider that, for example, being SA'd by your cousin can be pretty traumatic, actually. I think it's just hard for me to see Rudeus as a good but flawed guy. He just brings bad feelings and memories for me.

I'm no narrative expert, so I don't really have a conclusion to pull from this. Honestly, I think there is a way to tell stories with protagonists like Rudeus, but something about how the show frames him doing these things doesn't sit right with me. These are just my personal feelings, btw.

I gave the show a relatively low score bc of the things I mentioned, but I did like the story, and I'm contemplating watching more of it. it's really only the framing of Rudeus for me.

sorry if this is a mess, I'm scatterbrained, haha.

Oct 10, 2023 4:48 AM

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I actually have three times lol, he only kind of regrets leaving them to piss themselves and doesn’t apologize. He’s clearly more concerned about his ED. And the girls kind of just accept it as just natural.

And I don’t have enough context to conclude that thing with the figure was bullying. They challenged each other and wagered something important is all we know from the show. Perhaps maybe you should rewatch the scene …

Oct 10, 2023 4:49 AM

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RobertsahDHDA said:
Its quite clear that most people here have their own headcannons/misinterpretations of Rudeus and are arguing in bad faith.

Heres a fun thought exercise though. How many people thinking Rudeus brings down the show like Death Note? An infinitely more morally disgusting protagonist. 🤔

ghier said:
Ehh, it’s still there in the second season tho …
That’s a pretty traumatizing thing to do to someone.

Although I don’t find it problematic to have any type of flawed character. I do, however, find it problematic if the behavior should be considered unacceptable and is still almost entirely accepted by the characters surrounding them. It’s desensitizing.

A lot of that stuff isn’t even there for plot. It’s just there to fill out Rudy’s character with a bit more creepy perviness … and fanservice for the people that like that kind of thing.

You named the one thing Rudeus does season 2 he immediately regrets, ignoring all context that no one in the room cares about the bullies, and somehow come out of it thinking it was.....fanservice??? Congratulations, please watch the scene again.

I actually have three times lol, he only kind of regrets leaving them to piss themselves and doesn’t apologize. He’s clearly more concerned about his ED. And the girls kind of just accept it as just natural.

And I don’t have enough context to conclude that thing with the figure was bullying. They challenged each other and wagered something important is all we know from the show. Perhaps maybe you should rewatch the scene …

Oct 10, 2023 6:56 AM

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Well...as personnal opinion as a Death Note fan i would be pretty hypocrite if I lied pretending to think that anime with immoral protag are inherently bad or uninteresting that said i think its depends of the execution, if the protagonist immorality is showed in a way that either say its bad or let people decides for themselves what they think about it trusting the watchers intelligence not to reproduce "bad behavior" i'm fully ok with it. Now if its do make "immoral" protagonist behavior portrayal as if its something to acclaim, praise and reproduce that might be more of a problem especially when they are some idiots who probably would imitates it without thinking twice just because they found this character cool...but now...such people are probably very few most people dont base their behavior just on anime characters so most show conveying a bad behavior is cool message are probably not that damaging in real life. Futhermore, an anime with a shitty core message and bad behavior protag could still having lot of other qualities making it enjoyable so if the drawings, music, action, story and other characters were cool enough to me i probably would watch it anyway. And finally "immoral" is pretty subjective anyway so i'm quite sure characters that I personnally find perfectly moral protagonist are judged as the reverse by some people or the other way around so i answered that with the Death Note example in head of protagonist who are immoral by almost everyone moral standards like mass murderers serial killers and such but yeah i guess some other kinds of supposedly immoral protagonist whose morality is more grey and controversial according to society's values would warrant more nuanced answers and be the cause of more debate.

Oct 10, 2023 7:29 AM

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pengin jujur aja, ini anime storynya bagus bgt, grafisnya bagus, desain karakternya juga bagus, tapi yang sangat disayangkan mc nya itu loh :'))))) gua sampe s1 aja gk kelar saking gk kuat (maaf klo lebay)

Oct 10, 2023 9:21 AM

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Whether an anime is bad or not is entirely personal. There are times when you love an anime that's not well-regarded in general. And there are times when it's the opposite. All that matters is how one feels about the material in consideration.

Oct 10, 2023 9:43 AM

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it depends. Lelouch from Code Geass sure ain't no angel yet I still like him. But Rudeus is disgusting.

Oct 10, 2023 10:10 AM

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Death notes exists so no.

Oct 10, 2023 10:19 AM

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Art shouldn't be considered bad strictly for displaying morally disgusting characters. It's more important to look at what the art is trying to say about the morally disgusting character, about us, about our society, etc. What is it trying to say AND what it is actually saying. Depending on that, the art may itself be morally disgusting.

Unfortunately, I think even establishing the art as morally disgusting, there may be some art that can be both good art and morally disgusting. I can't think of any of the form, but I believe the artistic abilities of humanity likely go beyond my imaginings.

Can we discuss Art made by morally disgusting artists next?

Oct 10, 2023 10:54 AM

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Art shouldn't be considered bad strictly for displaying morally disgusting characters. It's more important to look at what the art is trying to say about the morally disgusting character, about us, about our society, etc. What is it trying to say AND what it is actually saying. Depending on that, the art may itself be morally disgusting.

Unfortunately, I think even establishing the art as morally disgusting, there may be some art that can be both good art and morally disgusting. I can't think of any of the form, but I believe the artistic abilities of humanity likely go beyond my imaginings.

Can we discuss Art made by morally disgusting artists next?

@LucenProject

Well you mean stuff like Celine very well regarded writer in writing circles who was a known pro nazi and never hided it in his writing during world war 2? Or any of the many artists who are known rapists? That kind of stuff? Well...weirdly that laws should apply to great artists also is weirdly not obvious to some of their fans but beyond being for them being judged for what they did the same anyone else would if the question is wether their artwork suddenly becomes bad because of what they did...well as it would has been the same if they didnt do it i dont think so and i'm not for canceling their artistic productions. That can be use to contextualize and get some information about how some artworks were unethically producted studying it not denying either artistic impact nor unethical aspect i guess its the best way. Still weirdly there is a taboo about criticizing on that ground what is usually considered great art far more than when it comes to criticize what usually is judged minor art like anime were its an endlessly exagerated argument that its bad morally like violent and such to pretends that its bad quality and shouldnt be watch. Years passes the tired stereotype stays. I think its a bit sad.

Oct 10, 2023 11:16 AM

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@Sylpheline

All of the above. It's easy when Artists is immoral and Art is bad or immoral. However, in cases of Art good and Artist immoral but already dead, I think it's simple enough to teach and learn about both while saying both honestly. However, in cases of good Art and living immoral artists, mentally separating the quality of the art from the morals of the artist could be possible, but how do we as a society proceed when the power, authority, money that comes with being a creator of good art allows or enables an immoral artist to perpetrate immoral acts? Not just delay prosecution or evade justice, but even employ people to aid in accomplishing immoral acts. Right now I'm thinking of R. Kelly made much loved music became a big star even though allegedly being illiterate was able to do some horrible things because he had theoney to hire the right people (in addition to putting off prosecution for years despite criminal allegations).

On a different level, more specific to our community here, if we think crunch for anime (or game) artists is wrong or pay is too low, how should a studio continuously having long periods of crunch affect our consumption of their anime(or game)?

Oct 10, 2023 11:27 AM

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While I understand people not being able to tolerate Mushoku Tensei because of Rudy. He really is a creep and while it gets better it's still a problem. I think the narrative treats it how it should, he fets his ass beat for being a creep. Other characters in other stories get away with their shitty behavior and the narrative never points it out. Rudy learns he's wrong to treat women this way, that they're independent humans with autonomy, and he should treat them with respect.

Oct 10, 2023 11:52 AM

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@Sylpheline

All of the above. It's easy when Artists is immoral and Art is bad or immoral. However, in cases of Art good and Artist immoral but already dead, I think it's simple enough to teach and learn about both while saying both honestly. However, in cases of good Art and living immoral artists, mentally separating the quality of the art from the morals of the artist could be possible, but how do we as a society proceed when the power, authority, money that comes with being a creator of good art allows or enables an immoral artist to perpetrate immoral acts? Not just delay prosecution or evade justice, but even employ people to aid in accomplishing immoral acts. Right now I'm thinking of R. Kelly made much loved music became a big star even though allegedly being illiterate was able to do some horrible things because he had theoney to hire the right people (in addition to putting off prosecution for years despite criminal allegations).

On a different level, more specific to our community here, if we think crunch for anime (or game) artists is wrong or pay is too low, how should a studio continuously having long periods of crunch affect our consumption of their anime(or game)?

@LucenProject Well remember me of the JK Rowling polemic because of her use of her millions of dollars coming from Harry Potter to finance racist, lgbtphobic and ableist movements when people think they should boycott her...boycott dont tend to work. It was a massive fail. There seems to not really be any concrete solution with living artists besides trying to have the law applying to them but yes if they are having power, authority and money enough to force justice to not taking them the same way as the other...then its became a question of upper class privilege in general more than a specific art problem i would say. The same issues would be with a big trader with zero artistic influence. Besides maybe that they dont have affection of fans and cultural impact the same way...but then again if we talk big politicians theyd be in a similar positions to such artists with having hugely dedicated crowds excusing them anything that affectionates them a lot for reflecting their views. And as you know we random people sadly have no power or a very limited one on such people.

And yes its probably impossible if you want to watch a lot of them without giving too much money spent on it but yes probably the only way to be fully ethical in anime watch is paying dvd especially for anime available here (the ones who are unlikely to ever comes out of Japan i dont see how your gonna watch without downloading and probably no download website is ethical especially if free). I dont know how crunchyroll works but i'm old enough to remember when megaupload closed and all the naive people who were defending such a website in the otaku community when really those guys were acting criminal in many ways just because they liked that they got them easy free anime access. Sometimes as a community we are stupid and defend the indefendable.

Oct 10, 2023 1:37 PM

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It means you don’t like that aspect of it. You not liking something a product tries to sell, doesn’t mean it’s bad/good. It simply means you don’t like it. It’s simple.

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Oct 10, 2023 6:00 PM

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Nope, not at all.......

Oct 10, 2023 6:07 PM

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If the story is descriptive? No

If the story is prescriptive? Yes

Oct 10, 2023 6:20 PM

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it's funny I was actually just thinking about how much I hate his character. I like the series for its world building and story and i just finished season 3. but I absolutely hate his character

Oct 10, 2023 6:28 PM

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as long as the characters has some sort of belief that is somewhat "right" in some complex way

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Oct 10, 2023 7:42 PM

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2021 called

It wants its dated, knee-jerk reaction to the anime adaptation back.

Oct 10, 2023 8:01 PM

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WTFLOL
Why would you ask something that stupid?
It's a STORY! It doesn't matter what happens. ANYTHING can happen cause it's just a fake story to watch/read.
Simple.

You thought you were watching a real guy in real time that you'd really meet? TROLLOLOLOLOL

Oct 10, 2023 9:05 PM

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WTFLOL
Why would you ask something that stupid?
It's a STORY! It doesn't matter what happens. ANYTHING can happen cause it's just a fake story to watch/read.
Simple.

You thought you were watching a real guy in real time that you'd really meet? TROLLOLOLOLOL

@HulkTySSJ2 Sir, just because I'm asking this question doesn't mean I'm stupid. If the logic that an anime is bad because of a morally disgusting main character is real, then anime like Death Note, Attack on Titan, Berserk, Chainsaw Man, or even HxH should never get high ratings in the first place. If you think this question is stupid to ask, then tell that to all the Mushoku Tensei haters who said this anime is disgusting and shouldn't watch it because it somewhat justifies child grooming or such. Do you catch my drift?

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Oct 10, 2023 9:30 PM

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No. If the anime can still make it interesting than have at it with a morally digusting Mc

Oct 10, 2023 9:58 PM

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you wanna have a civilized debate on mal? good luck with that

Oct 11, 2023 1:14 AM

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First of all NO! I mean this Isekai look like much more realistic then others. MC is not stupid and he have to fight his way up like others Isekai MC. In this days we are getting lots and lots of Isekai anime with garbage MC a stupid story.

Oct 11, 2023 3:33 AM

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OP is being disingenuous strawmanning people with this ridiculous oversimplification. No one seriously thinks a plot is bad due to a immoral protagonist (otherwise, AFI Top 100 works such as Clockwork Orange or The Godfather would be "bad"). The real problem is whether the author pushes an immoral narrative through the protagonist, and it could be argued whether Mushoku Tensei calls into this category. For example, it could be argued whether MC reflecting on his past mistakes "justifies" him being a grown ass man in his 30s stealing panties from underage looking characters. And if it doesn't, it wouldn't be Rudeus being bad that makes the show bad, but that the author justifying pedophilia making the show bad. It's one thing if an author tells a story of a bad character. It's another thing if an author tells a story of a bad character and argues that he should be sympathized and forgiven. That's like the difference between To Kill A Mockingbird and Mein Kampf, and to conflate the two is just unserious and moronic.

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Oct 11, 2023 3:38 AM

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WTFLOL
Why would you ask something that stupid?
It's a STORY! It doesn't matter what happens. ANYTHING can happen cause it's just a fake story to watch/read.
Simple.

You thought you were watching a real guy in real time that you'd really meet? TROLLOLOLOLOL

@HulkTySSJ2 So you don't think plot holes exist because a story is fictional. You'd watch a story that tries to convince you pedophilia is a good thing, and that wouldn't affect your enjoyment of a show as long as it's fictional. "Okay" lol. You're entitled to your opinions, but I think that would be pretty idiotic, and no matter how many anime fans pretend that to be the case, I'd posit barely anyone seriously thinks that way.

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Oct 11, 2023 5:20 AM

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obviously not, nor is any piece of art.

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Oct 11, 2023 6:47 AM

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I like morally disgusting characters, just not shitty ones like Rudeus whose fans insist that he grows a lot as a person and whatnot, three seasons later and the guy is okay with slavery because it's convenient as an excuse to add a slave waifu to the story.

Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength.

Oct 11, 2023 8:10 AM

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Every single person ever to exist in the real world has negative traits and there are a bunch who are straight disgusting individuals. nothing in reality is ever black and white when it comes to human behavior and i believe thats what got me into this show. The characters feel like they have real human personalities and flaws that come with it. I think the people hating on this like to deny there own flaws or makes them just uncomfortable to see that side of people.

Oct 11, 2023 8:38 AM

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An anime with a bad story can still be good if the characters are good, but an anime with bad characters it doesn't matter how good the story is because you won't really like the characters. Therefor characters are what makes the anime, even more than story. It's also the rule of shounen, shounen doesn't need good story but it definitely needs good characters

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Oct 11, 2023 9:21 AM

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You mean like a villain? No, I don't think anime with villains are all bad.

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Oct 11, 2023 11:46 AM

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I can only assume this is aimed at me, given my vocal performance on this issue has been heard many a time, but uh...I don't have an issue with morally disgusting characters.

Mushoku Tensei is just hilariously inept in its writing, and think it can brush past a real issue despite it being fundamental to the premise of the show. That I see people saying here that it should be "ignored" because the author couldn't figure out what to do with it after he made him a pedophile just further speaks to the short-sightedness of such a decision.

Alas, decisions have ripple effects especially when the issue is so fundamentally engrained in the show.

Oct 12, 2023 10:27 AM

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ZeroMajor12 said:
I want to ask this question to people who don't like morally disgusting characters. Let's have a debate.

No. Just depends on how they are written. I think also it matters how much we understand their motives and character. Like Thanos is horrible of course but a lot of people like him as a character because we understand why he’s making the decisions he is rather than him just being a murderous asshole to be a murderous asshole. You don’t have to like the character but understanding who they are can make them more compelling and interesting to watch even if you’re looking away in horror at points.

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